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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: KiWiKaKi is Canadian too... lol... + Show Spoiler + But totally awesome, nonetheless ^^ But Canadians are american too. America is a continent. USA is one country within that continent. | ||
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Olsson
Sweden931 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:14 vOdToasT wrote: But Canadians are american too. America is a continent. USA is one country within that continent. So what do you call someone from USA? The country USA. Canadian is a person from Canada, American is someone from USA. That's how society has made it and portraited it, even if it doesn't make any sense that's how it is. | ||
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antihobo
Canada121 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:07 Slardar wrote: Don't be so delusional and "blindly" optimistic, sorry to be blunt but I speak not only to you but indirectly to all the IdrA fans that think like this. He can never return to form with this mindset, look how he is unable to even practice without getting angry. We're only fans we can't do much, but if you REALLY want him to succeed, we need to make it a point driving it home for him. IdrA fanbase is pretty big, if we all send home the message and support, maybe he can slowly change for the better. I realistically can't expect him to get into form if his stream is an example of how he practices(low practice time?) Change is good, if you want the old IdrA back, he needs to change. 2012 is when we can get behind him and help **Note** I haven't watched or checked the results of the IdrA vs Alive series as I'm writing this. No. I can't question his practice, I have faith that he knows how to practice better than me (and you). He stopped streaming, but I never saw him froth at the mouth. I'm sure he's fine actually, because he's an adult. Change is good, that what I was alluding to when I said "return to form". I just refuse to hold delusions that anything other than my faith and support will aid him. So I will continue being delusional and blindly optimistic in my own special way. Edit: And I advocate everyone taking this stance as it allows me to maintain my sanity in these trying times. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:07 Slardar wrote: Don't be so delusional and "blindly" optimistic, sorry to be blunt but I speak not only to you but indirectly to all the IdrA fans that think like this. He can never return to form with this mindset, look how he is unable to even practice without getting angry. We're only fans we can't do much, but if you REALLY want him to succeed, we need to make it a point driving it home for him. IdrA fanbase is pretty big, if we all send home the message and support, maybe he can slowly change for the better. I realistically can't expect him to get into form if his stream is an example of how he practices(low practice time?) How do you know if IdrA gets mad when practicing? Hopefully you're not basing it off of his ladder stream  | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:40 Whole wrote: How do you know if IdrA gets mad when practicing? Hopefully you're not basing it off of his ladder stream With what other evidence do we have to base it off of? You can look at live performances, his stream games. It all sums up his mindset. @Antihobo - Don't get so defensive please, I never claimed to be able to practice better than IdrA, although it is commonly agreeable that the more you practice the better. If you get upset so easily, I can see him stopping (I do this, and as I'm sure a lot of others). I agree with what you're saying though. Bear in mind from what you wrote "return to form" I couldn't infer what you mean't. Yes he needs to return to form, most importantly his mindset. I can only try as a fan to make that a topic of discussion, so IdrA knows the fans got his back on that case. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:14 vOdToasT wrote: But Canadians are american too. America is a continent. USA is one country within that continent. Take that back.... Don't take HuK and Kiwi from us. Sheth already left us  | ||
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antihobo
Canada121 Posts
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woob
United Kingdom1322 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:14 vOdToasT wrote: But Canadians are american too. America is a continent. USA is one country within that continent. Best American: Best of the worst, what an honor! | ||
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Makura
United States317 Posts
6 pool is throwing away games against pros? thats why Lucky did it twice vs MMA and won in MLG KR online right? People criticise for 1 dimensional macro play, then he does like nydus all ins/roach all ins/6pools and when he loses those people are like GOD WHY DOESNT HE JUST DO MACRO. fucking retarded Seriously, when idra wins the next thing, there better be no fucking activity from like 3/4 of the community who apparently has sworn off fanship of him based on this.... sigh... The result is disappointing no doubt, but I will keep rooting for Idra and look forward to whenever he plays cause his macro and (more noticeably in zvz) his micro is something to truly admire. | ||
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cydial
United States750 Posts
What more evidence do you want? Watch him stream, play in tournaments, interviews. The only thing that even keeps this guy from going bezerks mode irl is that cat of his. The only reason he doesn't rage or bm against the koreans is because of how big the gap between them is (See Idra vs Taija). | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
As for tournament results, he is more prone to losing his cool and going tilt than other pro's and it effects his gamelpay the most, that is the root of the problem. If his performance is a culmination of all the practice - that isn't good(based off your point Antihobo) @Cydial - I agree fully with your first paragraph, that is what I would like to see. | ||
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antihobo
Canada121 Posts
On February 14 2012 03:01 Slardar wrote: About the streaming thing, that was but a minor detail in the scope of things. I can only guesstimate the best I can from what I see, sure you can argue that he may only stream because of his contract and he does it only to entertain us - fine. As for tournament results, he is more prone to losing his cool and going tilt than other pro's and it effects his gamelpay the most, that is the root of the problem. If his performance is a culmination of all the practice - that isn't good(based off your point Antihobo) @Cydial - I agree fully with your first paragraph, that is what I would like to see. This is true, but I find comfort with the fact that he's still very young and anger can be a powerful motivator. My main point is patience, have some for him and maybe he can find his own. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46590 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:14 vOdToasT wrote: But Canadians are american too. America is a continent. USA is one country within that continent. Yes but by the context of ZeDo's post, you can tell that he wasn't talking about America the continent (I assume you're talking about North America? America isn't a continent technically... there are two Americas if you're talking about continents, wise guy  ). He was talking about America the country (United States of...). Nationality. Even though I didn't realize that HuK considers himself Canadian and not American too (I'm fairly certain he has dual-citizenship). But that's not the point. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
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leandroqm
Netherlands874 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:14 vOdToasT wrote: But Canadians are american too. America is a continent. USA is one country within that continent. He is right. In portuguese, we SHOULD say "estadunidense" for americans, but we call them americanos too, even tho they are as much "americanos" as we are. :D People from the United States should be called United States citizens, I suppose... but it's just too long, that's why everybody calls them americans. | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
On February 14 2012 03:20 Grumbels wrote: What evidence do any of you really have that Idra needs a change in mindset to return to form? It's just speculation because you don't know his practice habits now or in the past, whether he always had this mindset or perhaps something changed, whether he is playing worse than before or if it's just a cause of only playing strong opponents. I imagine speculation is mostly harmless, but I think it's still insulting to Idra to pretend that if he just fixed this one personality flaw that he could magically play better. And maybe this is just how talented Idra is, maybe he's legitimately worse than many foreigners and Koreans and there is nothing he could possibly to become the best in the world. If you want to be a fan then cheer for him when he wins and support him when he fails, but it's so delusional to act like he's the best player in the world. I thought it was common knowledge with how his mindset has become negative and it is affecting his gameplay. I.E. when teammates talk about it, or Scoots. If he fixed this personality flaw you would immediately see a much more stable performance, I don't think that is a doubt in anyones mind. If you say otherwise, you are trolling. At the end of the day it's not rocket science. How he conveys his feelings toward the game, and his actual attitude during competition paint the picture. Unless you want to argue that ALL of it is for show, and is not the real IdrA behind the scenes than go for it. I can only say that it is a snowball effect, having a more positive outlook on his gaming career, and SC2 would only improve his practice, his performance, everything. Then it would be more like "EVOLUTION COMPLETE" ^^ | ||
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stormich50
Croatia2 Posts
If not, why not? | ||
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1653 Posts
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AGIANTSMURF
United States1232 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:24 Olsson wrote: So what do you call someone from USA? The country USA. Canadian is a person from Canada, American is someone from USA. That's how society has made it and portraited it, even if it doesn't make any sense that's how it is. You have americans, and you have North Americans, just like the server Americans and Canadians = North Americans | ||
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