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On October 28 2013 07:45 Kaiwa wrote: I would also say that the hate might be misdirected. Do people really believe that Hyuna is in full control of how she gets portrayed? lol.
do you really believe she's a slave and has no say whatsoever? lol.
Well obviously you'd have to go to full extremes to invalidate my argument. I will empathize the words, just for you.
Do people really believe that Hyuna is in full control of how she gets portrayed?
So no, I don't believe she's a slave and in fact has say in whatever she wants or doesn't want.
Hope this kind of arguing works out for you in the real world though.
your implication was that she was contractually forced into doing these types of concepts and promotions, or whatever management feels would work out best for her.
pretty sure if she thinks something is too radical she'd say something about it. lest you mistake that for another extreme criticism of your statement, I'll spell it out for you - even though she might not be fully satisfied with the concept, she finds it acceptable enough to do an entire promotion around the theme. the current hate may be misdirected, but probably not in the way you implied.
This is just simply wrong. I don't usually post here, but just this once i will. She has no choice, thats just the way korea works. Subordinates obey higher officials without question. Questioning someone's orders is viewed as disobedience and is a huge taboo in korea. I suggest you stop thinking like every country works like america.
I suggest you stop thinking every person and corporation works the same way in korea.
Don't comment if you don't understand the culture. The vast majority would act the way sharky said, especially in a corporate environment with older males calling the shots.
I'm going to take this moment to remind everyone that korean netizens are mostly teenagers with literally 0 idea of what actual corporate structure is like and an affinity for exaggeration. It's really not a credible source for your knowledge of korean culture. Neither are vacations to korea.
lol at some people who actually think shes being forced into this concept. shes not a nugu, shes arguably the biggest celebrity to come out of her company. do you really think shed unwillingly put on this overly sexual concept just because a fat guy behind a desk told her to? she wants to do it herself
I fail to see how not being a nugu or how being arguably the biggest celeb from her company 100% implies that she wants to do overly sexual concepts herself. Maybe that's just me though.
Again, I'm not saying she's forced into this. Your reasoning just seems flawed to me.
On October 28 2013 19:12 Kaiwa wrote: I fail to see how not being a nugu or how being arguably the biggest celeb from her company 100% implies that she wants to do overly sexual concepts herself. Maybe that's just me though.
because the company isnt going to force her into a concept she doesnt like. shes a big enough star now to be able to say what she wants and what she doesnt want.
On October 28 2013 19:12 Kaiwa wrote: I fail to see how not being a nugu or how being arguably the biggest celeb from her company 100% implies that she wants to do overly sexual concepts herself. Maybe that's just me though.
because the company isnt going to force her into a concept she doesnt like. shes a big enough star now to be able to say what she wants and what she doesnt want.
This right here, I'm pretty sure Cube would want to keep Hyuna, and she can easily leave them and get another company. She may not call the shots, but she does agree to it. What are they gonna do if Hyuna says no and they keep trying to force her to do something she doesn't want? It would be a great loss for Cube to lose Hyuna, so they want to have her say on things to.
On October 28 2013 19:12 Kaiwa wrote: I fail to see how not being a nugu or how being arguably the biggest celeb from her company 100% implies that she wants to do overly sexual concepts herself. Maybe that's just me though.
because the company isnt going to force her into a concept she doesnt like. shes a big enough star now to be able to say what she wants and what she doesnt want.
On October 28 2013 07:45 Kaiwa wrote: I would also say that the hate might be misdirected. Do people really believe that Hyuna is in full control of how she gets portrayed? lol.
do you really believe she's a slave and has no say whatsoever? lol.
Well obviously you'd have to go to full extremes to invalidate my argument. I will empathize the words, just for you.
Do people really believe that Hyuna is in full control of how she gets portrayed?
So no, I don't believe she's a slave and in fact has say in whatever she wants or doesn't want.
Hope this kind of arguing works out for you in the real world though.
your implication was that she was contractually forced into doing these types of concepts and promotions, or whatever management feels would work out best for her.
pretty sure if she thinks something is too radical she'd say something about it. lest you mistake that for another extreme criticism of your statement, I'll spell it out for you - even though she might not be fully satisfied with the concept, she finds it acceptable enough to do an entire promotion around the theme. the current hate may be misdirected, but probably not in the way you implied.
This is just simply wrong. I don't usually post here, but just this once i will. She has no choice, thats just the way korea works. Subordinates obey higher officials without question. Questioning someone's orders is viewed as disobedience and is a huge taboo in korea. I suggest you stop thinking like every country works like america.
i think ur right I've always wondered why we never see people bitching about contracts, or people leaving their parent companies for new ones and making loud press releases about how they're suppressed and mistreated oh well, gosh darn those hardline confucian ethics!
thanks for posting this once!
Of course not everyone agrees with the hardline ethics, (e.g jyj). But what are the chances of hyuna being one of those ever so small minority who stands up for her beliefs? Let me be clear, i don't think she thought about what is or isn't acceptable. I think, like everyone else in this industry, she just cares about making bank and anything else like morality means jackshit. And of course, that aim aligns with her management so there is no conflict really. Heck, i'm sure she or anyone else is willing to go full american mv if it meant big money.
there have been many, many more other than jyj lmao besides, it's not just leaving or protesting in public. many artists have input on what their theme is, as well as songwriting/penning lyrics.
Let me be clear, i don't think she thought about what is or isn't acceptable. I think, like everyone else in this industry, she just cares about making bank and anything else like morality means jackshit.
If I were a celebrity, I would think about my public image. In Asia, where face is everything, you would probably do anything to save it as well. I would hope thinking about your next public promotion isn't too farfetched of an idea to celebrities who like money.
On October 28 2013 19:12 Kaiwa wrote: I fail to see how not being a nugu or how being arguably the biggest celeb from her company 100% implies that she wants to do overly sexual concepts herself. Maybe that's just me though.
because the company isnt going to force her into a concept she doesnt like. shes a big enough star now to be able to say what she wants and what she doesnt want.
This right here, I'm pretty sure Cube would want to keep Hyuna, and she can easily leave them and get another company. She may not call the shots, but she does agree to it. What are they gonna do if Hyuna says no and they keep trying to force her to do something she doesn't want? It would be a great loss for Cube to lose Hyuna, so they want to have her say on things to.
Sorry if i'm bothering anyone, but I don't listen to much kpop. This is pretty vague, but can anytell me what was the name of the song that was very popular recently (liquidhero would listen to it a lot on his stream), it was a single by a male artist, and the male artist would play the acoustic guitar for the song. I think it was popular around the summer.
On October 29 2013 05:46 Rulker wrote: Sorry if i'm bothering anyone, but I don't listen to much kpop. This is pretty vague, but can anytell me what was the name of the song that was very popular recently (liquidhero would listen to it a lot on his stream), it was a single by a male artist, and the male artist would play the acoustic guitar for the song. I think it was popular around the summer.
On October 29 2013 05:46 Rulker wrote: Sorry if i'm bothering anyone, but I don't listen to much kpop. This is pretty vague, but can anytell me what was the name of the song that was very popular recently (liquidhero would listen to it a lot on his stream), it was a single by a male artist, and the male artist would play the acoustic guitar for the song. I think it was popular around the summer.
I'm not sure which song it is, but that is DEFINITELY the artist, which is really what I wanted to find. Thanks guys I'll just listen to a bunch of his songs. edit: BomBomBom is the song that I was thinking of actually.
Hyuna is under contract to do whatever they want. She is also a woman in korean culture so again she must do whatever they want. She is also young and in korean culture the young are always expected to obey their elders. So when her bosses tell her she's going to this video shoot for this director of so and so's music videos that were successful in the past and this senior director tells her what the concept of the video is and how he wants it done do you guys really think she's going to be like "no i won't do that or I think this way is better." Be realistic. They give her a dance she dances it. They give her a song she sings it. She doesn't have a say.
Also in regards to the video how do you know that when she's shooting it the director isn't promising her that he will make it classy and what not and assuring her that everything will look more subtle than it turned out.
On October 29 2013 05:52 Rulker wrote: I'm not sure which song it is, but that is DEFINITELY the artist, which is really what I wanted to find. Thanks guys I'll just listen to a bunch of his songs. edit: BomBomBom is the song that I was thinking of actually.
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