To ensure this thread won't be closed, you must adhere to several a number of simple rules;
Please use spoilers when quoting a post with pictures and/or videos.
When posting large quantities of media (pictures or videos), please begin spoilering after the first piece. Grouping related videos in the same spoilers & labeling is recommended.
No reposting of old material unless justified
Posting any material with little or no relevent discussion accompanying it
No passion-induced flaming of each other because 'x said y sucked' etc.
Keep the expression hate of music individuals/groups to a minimal level
No 'pagetopping' in any form whatsoever, as it constitutes spam equal to posts similar to 'first'.
No vulgar fan fics or wet dream stories. It is creepy, weird, and it dehumanizes the people who you are here to celebrate/discuss.
Normal posting standards that you find throughout the rest of the site still apply and will be enforced more strictly from here forward (2012/03/11)
Due to the poor nature of this thread in the past, temporary two-day bans will occur more than often if people slip up.
On July 05 2012 04:11 ShmeeZZy wrote: I doubt you guys would be saying that if they said MInah or Nicole sucked
Although I personally can't possibly see how you could ever hate either of them, the point still stands. If someone would outright hate on them, I'd defend them rather than beg that person to keep his opinion to himself. I mean... this is the Korean Music Discussion, right? We're supposed to argue about this kind of stuff, not keep it for ourselves
But there's nothing to discuss. Minah with her over-the-top aegyo makes me want to punch her in the face. And Nicole I just dislike her - dont know why. Imho she's the most ugly person in Kpop (way worse than i.e. Hyoyeon).
But since that's just my opinion - there's not really anything to discuss. And everytime someone goes crazy (aka everytime TuElite posts^^) should I write my "NOPE! I THINK SHE SUXXXXXX!" in the thread? The regular Sone circle jerk is honestly enough.
Well no, if you're gonna say the same thing about the same person everytime she gets an update or whatknot, then we're just going in unnecessary circles. Rather meant that if it's something that's new and is possible to discuss, then you can do it. There's a difference between "x sucks" and "x sucks because ___". The latter can spark a debate if it's made sensibly, otherwise it cannot, however the former never will.
I'm not trying to encourage more hate in this thread, just saying that people shouldn't hesitate to post your opinions, as long as it follows the theme of the thread, in other words adds to the discussion.
Ok let's try it the other way around: What do you like about them? What makes them special? Disregarding looks (since that's personal preferance) and the usual "Oh she's so hard working" / "She loves the fans" etc shallow stuff
Personally I like Minah cause she's kawaii as fuck.
Plus her and Yura have this probably-fake semi-lesbian thing going on that's both hot and funny at the same time.
And I think that's an annoying feature. So we're back to square one.
You like personal trait A and I hate the same trait. But there's nothing to discuss. So me saying "I hate her because of trait A" does not add to any discussion. (contrary to what HaX mentioned)
to much 2ne1 hate, although i can see why you dont like them (and especially IATB). Most of there songs are electropop so it is taste and not my really my taste either, but here is my reason why i like them: they actually give good performences
On July 05 2012 04:11 ShmeeZZy wrote: I doubt you guys would be saying that if they said MInah or Nicole sucked
Although I personally can't possibly see how you could ever hate either of them, the point still stands. If someone would outright hate on them, I'd defend them rather than beg that person to keep his opinion to himself. I mean... this is the Korean Music Discussion, right? We're supposed to argue about this kind of stuff, not keep it for ourselves
But there's nothing to discuss. Minah with her over-the-top aegyo makes me want to punch her in the face. And Nicole I just dislike her - dont know why. Imho she's the most ugly person in Kpop (way worse than i.e. Hyoyeon).
But since that's just my opinion - there's not really anything to discuss. And everytime someone goes crazy (aka everytime TuElite posts^^) should I write my "NOPE! I THINK SHE SUXXXXXX!" in the thread? The regular Sone circle jerk is honestly enough.
Well no, if you're gonna say the same thing about the same person everytime she gets an update or whatknot, then we're just going in unnecessary circles. Rather meant that if it's something that's new and is possible to discuss, then you can do it. There's a difference between "x sucks" and "x sucks because ___". The latter can spark a debate if it's made sensibly, otherwise it cannot, however the former never will.
I'm not trying to encourage more hate in this thread, just saying that people shouldn't hesitate to post your opinions, as long as it follows the theme of the thread, in other words adds to the discussion.
Ok let's try it the other way around: What do you like about them? What makes them special? Disregarding looks (since that's personal preferance) and the usual "Oh she's so hard working" / "She loves the fans" etc shallow stuff
Personally I like Minah cause she's kawaii as fuck.
Plus her and Yura have this probably-fake semi-lesbian thing going on that's both hot and funny at the same time.
And I think that's an annoying feature. So we're back to square one.
You like personal trait A and I hate the same trait. But there's nothing to discuss. So me saying "I hate her because of trait A" does not add to any discussion. (contrary to what HaX mentioned)
Agree with Dystopia 100%.
@Zocat Difference is if you had the following conversation "She sucks" followed by "She doesn't", then that would be the end of it, whereas this actually leaves a way out for other people to remedy the situation. Can't play that part myself atn as I'll be leaving now, but I think you'll manage :s
On July 05 2012 04:11 ShmeeZZy wrote: I doubt you guys would be saying that if they said MInah or Nicole sucked
Although I personally can't possibly see how you could ever hate either of them, the point still stands. If someone would outright hate on them, I'd defend them rather than beg that person to keep his opinion to himself. I mean... this is the Korean Music Discussion, right? We're supposed to argue about this kind of stuff, not keep it for ourselves
But there's nothing to discuss. Minah with her over-the-top aegyo makes me want to punch her in the face. And Nicole I just dislike her - dont know why. Imho she's the most ugly person in Kpop (way worse than i.e. Hyoyeon).
But since that's just my opinion - there's not really anything to discuss. And everytime someone goes crazy (aka everytime TuElite posts^^) should I write my "NOPE! I THINK SHE SUXXXXXX!" in the thread? The regular Sone circle jerk is honestly enough.
Well no, if you're gonna say the same thing about the same person everytime she gets an update or whatknot, then we're just going in unnecessary circles. Rather meant that if it's something that's new and is possible to discuss, then you can do it. There's a difference between "x sucks" and "x sucks because ___". The latter can spark a debate if it's made sensibly, otherwise it cannot, however the former never will.
I'm not trying to encourage more hate in this thread, just saying that people shouldn't hesitate to post your opinions, as long as it follows the theme of the thread, in other words adds to the discussion.
Ok let's try it the other way around: What do you like about them? What makes them special? Disregarding looks (since that's personal preferance) and the usual "Oh she's so hard working" / "She loves the fans" etc shallow stuff
Personally I like Minah cause she's kawaii as fuck.
Plus her and Yura have this probably-fake semi-lesbian thing going on that's both hot and funny at the same time.
And I think that's an annoying feature. So we're back to square one.
You like personal trait A and I hate the same trait. But there's nothing to discuss. So me saying "I hate her because of trait A" does not add to any discussion. (contrary to what HaX mentioned)
Well..yeah.
But it's probably better to elaborate than to not elaborate simply because someone disagrees. If you see "I love Minah cause she's so kawaii" and all you have to add is "fuck no she ain't kawaii bitch" then all you have to do is not respond. Someone else might be all "Fuck yea she's so kawaii mang" and then we have a discussion (or as close to one as KMD gets). If all you post is "I LOVE MINAH" then there's not much to say is there?
On July 05 2012 05:10 Tennet wrote: Well, that didn't work.. i should probably just go to tumblr or something..
Shit, someone gets the alternative to asking for pics they could find elsewhere!
@that 2ne1 performance- I fail to see what's "good" about that performance or what makes it exceptional really.
On July 05 2012 04:11 ShmeeZZy wrote: I doubt you guys would be saying that if they said MInah or Nicole sucked
Although I personally can't possibly see how you could ever hate either of them, the point still stands. If someone would outright hate on them, I'd defend them rather than beg that person to keep his opinion to himself. I mean... this is the Korean Music Discussion, right? We're supposed to argue about this kind of stuff, not keep it for ourselves
But there's nothing to discuss. Minah with her over-the-top aegyo makes me want to punch her in the face. And Nicole I just dislike her - dont know why. Imho she's the most ugly person in Kpop (way worse than i.e. Hyoyeon).
But since that's just my opinion - there's not really anything to discuss. And everytime someone goes crazy (aka everytime TuElite posts^^) should I write my "NOPE! I THINK SHE SUXXXXXX!" in the thread? The regular Sone circle jerk is honestly enough.
Well no, if you're gonna say the same thing about the same person everytime she gets an update or whatknot, then we're just going in unnecessary circles. Rather meant that if it's something that's new and is possible to discuss, then you can do it. There's a difference between "x sucks" and "x sucks because ___". The latter can spark a debate if it's made sensibly, otherwise it cannot, however the former never will.
I'm not trying to encourage more hate in this thread, just saying that people shouldn't hesitate to post your opinions, as long as it follows the theme of the thread, in other words adds to the discussion.
Ok let's try it the other way around: What do you like about them? What makes them special? Disregarding looks (since that's personal preferance) and the usual "Oh she's so hard working" / "She loves the fans" etc shallow stuff
Personally I like Minah cause she's kawaii as fuck.
Plus her and Yura have this probably-fake semi-lesbian thing going on that's both hot and funny at the same time.
And I think that's an annoying feature. So we're back to square one.
You like personal trait A and I hate the same trait. But there's nothing to discuss. So me saying "I hate her because of trait A" does not add to any discussion. (contrary to what HaX mentioned)
But it's probably better to elaborate than to not elaborate simply because someone disagrees. If you see "I love Minah cause she's so kawaii" and all you have to add is "fuck no she ain't kawaii bitch" then all you have to do is not respond. Someone else might be all "Fuck yea she's so kawaii mang" and then we have a discussion (or as close to one as KMD gets). If all you post is "I LOVE MINAH" then there's not much to say is there?
On July 05 2012 04:11 ShmeeZZy wrote: I doubt you guys would be saying that if they said MInah or Nicole sucked
Although I personally can't possibly see how you could ever hate either of them, the point still stands. If someone would outright hate on them, I'd defend them rather than beg that person to keep his opinion to himself. I mean... this is the Korean Music Discussion, right? We're supposed to argue about this kind of stuff, not keep it for ourselves
But there's nothing to discuss. Minah with her over-the-top aegyo makes me want to punch her in the face. And Nicole I just dislike her - dont know why. Imho she's the most ugly person in Kpop (way worse than i.e. Hyoyeon).
But since that's just my opinion - there's not really anything to discuss. And everytime someone goes crazy (aka everytime TuElite posts^^) should I write my "NOPE! I THINK SHE SUXXXXXX!" in the thread? The regular Sone circle jerk is honestly enough.
Well no, if you're gonna say the same thing about the same person everytime she gets an update or whatknot, then we're just going in unnecessary circles. Rather meant that if it's something that's new and is possible to discuss, then you can do it. There's a difference between "x sucks" and "x sucks because ___". The latter can spark a debate if it's made sensibly, otherwise it cannot, however the former never will.
I'm not trying to encourage more hate in this thread, just saying that people shouldn't hesitate to post your opinions, as long as it follows the theme of the thread, in other words adds to the discussion.
Ok let's try it the other way around: What do you like about them? What makes them special? Disregarding looks (since that's personal preferance) and the usual "Oh she's so hard working" / "She loves the fans" etc shallow stuff
Personally I like Minah cause she's kawaii as fuck.
Plus her and Yura have this probably-fake semi-lesbian thing going on that's both hot and funny at the same time.
And I think that's an annoying feature. So we're back to square one.
You like personal trait A and I hate the same trait. But there's nothing to discuss. So me saying "I hate her because of trait A" does not add to any discussion. (contrary to what HaX mentioned)
Well..yeah.
But it's probably better to elaborate than to not elaborate simply because someone disagrees. If you see "I love Minah cause she's so kawaii" and all you have to add is "fuck no she ain't kawaii bitch" then all you have to do is not respond. Someone else might be all "Fuck yea she's so kawaii mang" and then we have a discussion (or as close to one as KMD gets). If all you post is "I LOVE MINAH" then there's not much to say is there?
So all you had to add to my "Her aegyo is really annoying" is "She's sooo kawaii & hot and I like her lesbian vibes with Yura!" - which basically just is a "her aegyo is not annoying!" ? And then it's all about who has more people who care about posting those additional lines? So a popularity contest? Sorry, but I personally dont see any value in that kind of discussion (as in: they're just opinions, which you cannot change and there is no right/wrong one). :/
On July 05 2012 04:11 ShmeeZZy wrote: I doubt you guys would be saying that if they said MInah or Nicole sucked
Although I personally can't possibly see how you could ever hate either of them, the point still stands. If someone would outright hate on them, I'd defend them rather than beg that person to keep his opinion to himself. I mean... this is the Korean Music Discussion, right? We're supposed to argue about this kind of stuff, not keep it for ourselves
But there's nothing to discuss. Minah with her over-the-top aegyo makes me want to punch her in the face. And Nicole I just dislike her - dont know why. Imho she's the most ugly person in Kpop (way worse than i.e. Hyoyeon).
But since that's just my opinion - there's not really anything to discuss. And everytime someone goes crazy (aka everytime TuElite posts^^) should I write my "NOPE! I THINK SHE SUXXXXXX!" in the thread? The regular Sone circle jerk is honestly enough.
Well no, if you're gonna say the same thing about the same person everytime she gets an update or whatknot, then we're just going in unnecessary circles. Rather meant that if it's something that's new and is possible to discuss, then you can do it. There's a difference between "x sucks" and "x sucks because ___". The latter can spark a debate if it's made sensibly, otherwise it cannot, however the former never will.
I'm not trying to encourage more hate in this thread, just saying that people shouldn't hesitate to post your opinions, as long as it follows the theme of the thread, in other words adds to the discussion.
Ok let's try it the other way around: What do you like about them? What makes them special? Disregarding looks (since that's personal preferance) and the usual "Oh she's so hard working" / "She loves the fans" etc shallow stuff
Personally I like Minah cause she's kawaii as fuck.
Plus her and Yura have this probably-fake semi-lesbian thing going on that's both hot and funny at the same time.
And I think that's an annoying feature. So we're back to square one.
You like personal trait A and I hate the same trait. But there's nothing to discuss. So me saying "I hate her because of trait A" does not add to any discussion. (contrary to what HaX mentioned)
Well..yeah.
But it's probably better to elaborate than to not elaborate simply because someone disagrees. If you see "I love Minah cause she's so kawaii" and all you have to add is "fuck no she ain't kawaii bitch" then all you have to do is not respond. Someone else might be all "Fuck yea she's so kawaii mang" and then we have a discussion (or as close to one as KMD gets). If all you post is "I LOVE MINAH" then there's not much to say is there?
So all you had to add to my "Her aegyo is really annoying" is "She's sooo kawaii & hot and I like her lesbian vibes with Yura!" - which basically just is a "her aegyo is not annoying!" ? And then it's all about who has more people who care about posting those additional lines? So a popularity contest? Sorry, but I personally dont see any value in that kind of discussion (as in: they're just opinions, which you cannot change and there is no right/wrong one). :/
All the posts in this thread are either picspams or opinions so I fail to see your point.
And it's not really a popularity contest cause there's nothing to "win", it's just people stating their opinions, no?
And as "valueless" as that discussion is it's better than the thread being full of agressive one liners like "minah is awful". TL requires substance to your post and this thread should too.
someones upset cuz their favorite group has never won anything here this will cheer u up the queen on her throne no jay or kanye mmm 2ne1 new song is da business as usual
hmm I've always wondered what is it about the phrase 'cl da baddest female' that upsets me so much? every time I read it I have the irresistible urge to punch something.
On July 05 2012 05:01 Pulselol wrote: Also am I the only one who actually thought 2ne1's I AM THE BEST was just terrible?
Also since when did Minah become an example of an idol almost universally liked by this thread? effing weird.
what
minah is gross, barely above hyeri tier in my book.
only songs I like from 2ne1 are Hate You and Lonely. I really tried liking them, I really did. they're a pretty polarizing group; either you hate them or love them. I also really really really really dislike their fanbase.
On July 05 2012 04:11 ShmeeZZy wrote: I doubt you guys would be saying that if they said MInah or Nicole sucked
Although I personally can't possibly see how you could ever hate either of them, the point still stands. If someone would outright hate on them, I'd defend them rather than beg that person to keep his opinion to himself. I mean... this is the Korean Music Discussion, right? We're supposed to argue about this kind of stuff, not keep it for ourselves
But there's nothing to discuss. Minah with her over-the-top aegyo makes me want to punch her in the face. And Nicole I just dislike her - dont know why. Imho she's the most ugly person in Kpop (way worse than i.e. Hyoyeon).
But since that's just my opinion - there's not really anything to discuss. And everytime someone goes crazy (aka everytime TuElite posts^^) should I write my "NOPE! I THINK SHE SUXXXXXX!" in the thread? The regular Sone circle jerk is honestly enough.
Well no, if you're gonna say the same thing about the same person everytime she gets an update or whatknot, then we're just going in unnecessary circles. Rather meant that if it's something that's new and is possible to discuss, then you can do it. There's a difference between "x sucks" and "x sucks because ___". The latter can spark a debate if it's made sensibly, otherwise it cannot, however the former never will.
I'm not trying to encourage more hate in this thread, just saying that people shouldn't hesitate to post your opinions, as long as it follows the theme of the thread, in other words adds to the discussion.
Ok let's try it the other way around: What do you like about them? What makes them special? Disregarding looks (since that's personal preferance) and the usual "Oh she's so hard working" / "She loves the fans" etc shallow stuff
Personally I like Minah cause she's kawaii as fuck.
Plus her and Yura have this probably-fake semi-lesbian thing going on that's both hot and funny at the same time.
And I think that's an annoying feature. So we're back to square one.
You like personal trait A and I hate the same trait. But there's nothing to discuss. So me saying "I hate her because of trait A" does not add to any discussion. (contrary to what HaX mentioned)
Well..yeah.
But it's probably better to elaborate than to not elaborate simply because someone disagrees. If you see "I love Minah cause she's so kawaii" and all you have to add is "fuck no she ain't kawaii bitch" then all you have to do is not respond. Someone else might be all "Fuck yea she's so kawaii mang" and then we have a discussion (or as close to one as KMD gets). If all you post is "I LOVE MINAH" then there's not much to say is there?
So all you had to add to my "Her aegyo is really annoying" is "She's sooo kawaii & hot and I like her lesbian vibes with Yura!" - which basically just is a "her aegyo is not annoying!" ? And then it's all about who has more people who care about posting those additional lines? So a popularity contest? Sorry, but I personally dont see any value in that kind of discussion (as in: they're just opinions, which you cannot change and there is no right/wrong one). :/
All the posts in this thread are either picspams or opinions so I fail to see your point.
And it's not really a popularity contest cause there's nothing to "win", it's just people stating their opinions, no?
And as "valueless" as that discussion is it's better than the thread being full of agressive one liners like "minah is awful". TL requires substance to your post and this thread should too.
So we're indeed back to: People who dislike something for the same reasons why people like something (opinion) should keep that to themselves? Which actually was my initial standpoint (only HaX said that he wanted to have "haters" post as well so we could have a discussion). People just stating just their opinions also doesnt lead to discussion (another one of HaX's points).
And the "X is awesome" etc posts (see recent Day by Day posts about Jiyeon) have the same substance as a "Minah is awful" Dont really see your point there.
On July 05 2012 05:31 ASie wrote: Ahaha KMD is ridiculous. :p Getting riled up over a few comments. Maybe I should just go back to lurking...
I dont think anyone is riled up over anything here. It's actually 2 people having a discussion
On July 05 2012 05:24 Vorgrim wrote: Minah and Yura as lesbians is something I would be ok with.
I like reading translations of their twitters because they interact with each other more than other groups do and post more than "HEY GUYS I'M IN JAPAN NOW" or "LOOK AT THIS HAWT PICTURE OF ME (picture)"
EPT
![[image loading]](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5xxjnqfUE1r4to8bo1_1280.jpg)
![[image loading]](https://p.twimg.com/Av1NDbdCIAACmvX.jpg)
