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On July 05 2012 04:19 HaXXspetten wrote: [quote] Although I personally can't possibly see how you could ever hate either of them, the point still stands. If someone would outright hate on them, I'd defend them rather than beg that person to keep his opinion to himself. I mean... this is the Korean Music Discussion, right? We're supposed to argue about this kind of stuff, not keep it for ourselves
But there's nothing to discuss. Minah with her over-the-top aegyo makes me want to punch her in the face. And Nicole I just dislike her - dont know why. Imho she's the most ugly person in Kpop (way worse than i.e. Hyoyeon).
But since that's just my opinion - there's not really anything to discuss. And everytime someone goes crazy (aka everytime TuElite posts^^) should I write my "NOPE! I THINK SHE SUXXXXXX!" in the thread? The regular Sone circle jerk is honestly enough.
Well no, if you're gonna say the same thing about the same person everytime she gets an update or whatknot, then we're just going in unnecessary circles. Rather meant that if it's something that's new and is possible to discuss, then you can do it. There's a difference between "x sucks" and "x sucks because ___". The latter can spark a debate if it's made sensibly, otherwise it cannot, however the former never will.
I'm not trying to encourage more hate in this thread, just saying that people shouldn't hesitate to post your opinions, as long as it follows the theme of the thread, in other words adds to the discussion.
Ok let's try it the other way around: What do you like about them? What makes them special? Disregarding looks (since that's personal preferance) and the usual "Oh she's so hard working" / "She loves the fans" etc shallow stuff
Personally I like Minah cause she's kawaii as fuck.
Plus her and Yura have this probably-fake semi-lesbian thing going on that's both hot and funny at the same time.
And I think that's an annoying feature. So we're back to square one.
You like personal trait A and I hate the same trait. But there's nothing to discuss. So me saying "I hate her because of trait A" does not add to any discussion. (contrary to what HaX mentioned)
Well..yeah.
But it's probably better to elaborate than to not elaborate simply because someone disagrees. If you see "I love Minah cause she's so kawaii" and all you have to add is "fuck no she ain't kawaii bitch" then all you have to do is not respond. Someone else might be all "Fuck yea she's so kawaii mang" and then we have a discussion (or as close to one as KMD gets). If all you post is "I LOVE MINAH" then there's not much to say is there?
So all you had to add to my "Her aegyo is really annoying" is "She's sooo kawaii & hot and I like her lesbian vibes with Yura!" - which basically just is a "her aegyo is not annoying!" ? And then it's all about who has more people who care about posting those additional lines? So a popularity contest? Sorry, but I personally dont see any value in that kind of discussion (as in: they're just opinions, which you cannot change and there is no right/wrong one). :/
All the posts in this thread are either picspams or opinions so I fail to see your point.
And it's not really a popularity contest cause there's nothing to "win", it's just people stating their opinions, no?
And as "valueless" as that discussion is it's better than the thread being full of agressive one liners like "minah is awful". TL requires substance to your post and this thread should too.
So we're indeed back to: People who dislike something for the same reasons why people like something (opinion) should keep that to themselves? Which actually was my initial standpoint (only HaX said that he wanted to have "haters" post as well so we could have a discussion). People just stating just their opinions also doesnt lead to discussion (another one of HaX's points).
And the "X is awesome" etc posts (see recent Day by Day posts about Jiyeon) have the same substance as a "Minah is awful" Dont really see your point there.
On July 05 2012 05:31 ASie wrote: Ahaha KMD is ridiculous. :p Getting riled up over a few comments. Maybe I should just go back to lurking...
I dont think anyone is riled up over anything here. It's actually 2 people having a discussion
No they can post that they dislike something, but it should be more than "X sucks". Just like posting that you like something should be more than "X is awesome." It's about the amount of substance, not the opinion itself.
edit- @AndyRau- Yura>Hyeri>Minah>Sojin>Jihae in my book.
On July 05 2012 04:19 HaXXspetten wrote: [quote] Although I personally can't possibly see how you could ever hate either of them, the point still stands. If someone would outright hate on them, I'd defend them rather than beg that person to keep his opinion to himself. I mean... this is the Korean Music Discussion, right? We're supposed to argue about this kind of stuff, not keep it for ourselves
But there's nothing to discuss. Minah with her over-the-top aegyo makes me want to punch her in the face. And Nicole I just dislike her - dont know why. Imho she's the most ugly person in Kpop (way worse than i.e. Hyoyeon).
But since that's just my opinion - there's not really anything to discuss. And everytime someone goes crazy (aka everytime TuElite posts^^) should I write my "NOPE! I THINK SHE SUXXXXXX!" in the thread? The regular Sone circle jerk is honestly enough.
Well no, if you're gonna say the same thing about the same person everytime she gets an update or whatknot, then we're just going in unnecessary circles. Rather meant that if it's something that's new and is possible to discuss, then you can do it. There's a difference between "x sucks" and "x sucks because ___". The latter can spark a debate if it's made sensibly, otherwise it cannot, however the former never will.
I'm not trying to encourage more hate in this thread, just saying that people shouldn't hesitate to post your opinions, as long as it follows the theme of the thread, in other words adds to the discussion.
Ok let's try it the other way around: What do you like about them? What makes them special? Disregarding looks (since that's personal preferance) and the usual "Oh she's so hard working" / "She loves the fans" etc shallow stuff
Personally I like Minah cause she's kawaii as fuck.
Plus her and Yura have this probably-fake semi-lesbian thing going on that's both hot and funny at the same time.
And I think that's an annoying feature. So we're back to square one.
You like personal trait A and I hate the same trait. But there's nothing to discuss. So me saying "I hate her because of trait A" does not add to any discussion. (contrary to what HaX mentioned)
Well..yeah.
But it's probably better to elaborate than to not elaborate simply because someone disagrees. If you see "I love Minah cause she's so kawaii" and all you have to add is "fuck no she ain't kawaii bitch" then all you have to do is not respond. Someone else might be all "Fuck yea she's so kawaii mang" and then we have a discussion (or as close to one as KMD gets). If all you post is "I LOVE MINAH" then there's not much to say is there?
So all you had to add to my "Her aegyo is really annoying" is "She's sooo kawaii & hot and I like her lesbian vibes with Yura!" - which basically just is a "her aegyo is not annoying!" ? And then it's all about who has more people who care about posting those additional lines? So a popularity contest? Sorry, but I personally dont see any value in that kind of discussion (as in: they're just opinions, which you cannot change and there is no right/wrong one). :/
All the posts in this thread are either picspams or opinions so I fail to see your point.
And it's not really a popularity contest cause there's nothing to "win", it's just people stating their opinions, no?
And as "valueless" as that discussion is it's better than the thread being full of agressive one liners like "minah is awful". TL requires substance to your post and this thread should too.
So we're indeed back to: People who dislike something for the same reasons why people like something (opinion) should keep that to themselves? Which actually was my initial standpoint (only HaX said that he wanted to have "haters" post as well so we could have a discussion). People just stating just their opinions also doesnt lead to discussion (another one of HaX's points).
And the "X is awesome" etc posts (see recent Day by Day posts about Jiyeon) have the same substance as a "Minah is awful" Dont really see your point there.
Anyone got a good one? They never seem to be very catchy and without an MV or something to back it up, it's not memorable at all.. maybe if they kept playing it in Korea or something it'll be drilling into people's mind
But there's nothing to discuss. Minah with her over-the-top aegyo makes me want to punch her in the face. And Nicole I just dislike her - dont know why. Imho she's the most ugly person in Kpop (way worse than i.e. Hyoyeon).
But since that's just my opinion - there's not really anything to discuss. And everytime someone goes crazy (aka everytime TuElite posts^^) should I write my "NOPE! I THINK SHE SUXXXXXX!" in the thread? The regular Sone circle jerk is honestly enough.
Well no, if you're gonna say the same thing about the same person everytime she gets an update or whatknot, then we're just going in unnecessary circles. Rather meant that if it's something that's new and is possible to discuss, then you can do it. There's a difference between "x sucks" and "x sucks because ___". The latter can spark a debate if it's made sensibly, otherwise it cannot, however the former never will.
I'm not trying to encourage more hate in this thread, just saying that people shouldn't hesitate to post your opinions, as long as it follows the theme of the thread, in other words adds to the discussion.
Ok let's try it the other way around: What do you like about them? What makes them special? Disregarding looks (since that's personal preferance) and the usual "Oh she's so hard working" / "She loves the fans" etc shallow stuff
Personally I like Minah cause she's kawaii as fuck.
Plus her and Yura have this probably-fake semi-lesbian thing going on that's both hot and funny at the same time.
And I think that's an annoying feature. So we're back to square one.
You like personal trait A and I hate the same trait. But there's nothing to discuss. So me saying "I hate her because of trait A" does not add to any discussion. (contrary to what HaX mentioned)
Well..yeah.
But it's probably better to elaborate than to not elaborate simply because someone disagrees. If you see "I love Minah cause she's so kawaii" and all you have to add is "fuck no she ain't kawaii bitch" then all you have to do is not respond. Someone else might be all "Fuck yea she's so kawaii mang" and then we have a discussion (or as close to one as KMD gets). If all you post is "I LOVE MINAH" then there's not much to say is there?
So all you had to add to my "Her aegyo is really annoying" is "She's sooo kawaii & hot and I like her lesbian vibes with Yura!" - which basically just is a "her aegyo is not annoying!" ? And then it's all about who has more people who care about posting those additional lines? So a popularity contest? Sorry, but I personally dont see any value in that kind of discussion (as in: they're just opinions, which you cannot change and there is no right/wrong one). :/
All the posts in this thread are either picspams or opinions so I fail to see your point.
And it's not really a popularity contest cause there's nothing to "win", it's just people stating their opinions, no?
And as "valueless" as that discussion is it's better than the thread being full of agressive one liners like "minah is awful". TL requires substance to your post and this thread should too.
So we're indeed back to: People who dislike something for the same reasons why people like something (opinion) should keep that to themselves? Which actually was my initial standpoint (only HaX said that he wanted to have "haters" post as well so we could have a discussion). People just stating just their opinions also doesnt lead to discussion (another one of HaX's points).
And the "X is awesome" etc posts (see recent Day by Day posts about Jiyeon) have the same substance as a "Minah is awful" Dont really see your point there.
On July 05 2012 05:31 ASie wrote: Ahaha KMD is ridiculous. :p Getting riled up over a few comments. Maybe I should just go back to lurking...
I dont think anyone is riled up over anything here. It's actually 2 people having a discussion
No they can post that they dislike something, but it should be more than "X sucks". Just like posting that you like something should be more than "X is awesome." It's about the amount of substance, not the opinion itself.
edit- @AndyRau- Yura>Hyeri>Minah>Sojin>Jihae in my book.
Hmm yeah ok. Think I can agree with that statement (although I doubt it would work). And Yura-Jihae-Sojin-Hyeri-Minah
By the way TuElite, are you an avid Kara fan or just Kara (Nicole)? Wondering if you happen to have a stockpile of pics of Jiyoung from the Wanna/Mister days.
On July 05 2012 04:11 ShmeeZZy wrote: I doubt you guys would be saying that if they said MInah or Nicole sucked
@Shmeezzy- half the people here think that Jiyeon's eyes are fucked up and more than half the people here think that Jisook looks gross. IDGAF they're allowed to have those opinions. You can hate on anyone I like here, that's half of what makes this thread fun.
I am ok with that.
DystopiaX wrote: No they can post that they dislike something, but it should be more than "X sucks". Just like posting that you like something should be more than "X is awesome." It's about the amount of substance, not the opinion itself.
On July 05 2012 03:48 Lokk wrote: 2ne1 sucks.
Post that started it all. Glad to see we agree then.
DystopiaX wrote: Also since when did Minah become an example of an idol almost universally liked by this thread? effing weird.
She's cute and adorable. Plus I was responding to number one fanboy.
On July 05 2012 05:46 TzaTzers wrote: By the way TuElite, are you an avid Kara fan or just Kara (Nicole)? Wondering if you happen to have a stockpile of pics of Jiyoung from the Wanna/Mister days.
I like the group as a whole like I enjoy their songs and performances as a group but most of my interest is in Nicole. I have 19 or so pictures of Jiyoung saved, my quality control is a lot higher for the other members. I got 3 or so pretty good Jiyoung pics from Wanna/Mister era, here, you can have them.
But there's nothing to discuss. Minah with her over-the-top aegyo makes me want to punch her in the face. And Nicole I just dislike her - dont know why. Imho she's the most ugly person in Kpop (way worse than i.e. Hyoyeon).
But since that's just my opinion - there's not really anything to discuss. And everytime someone goes crazy (aka everytime TuElite posts^^) should I write my "NOPE! I THINK SHE SUXXXXXX!" in the thread? The regular Sone circle jerk is honestly enough.
Well no, if you're gonna say the same thing about the same person everytime she gets an update or whatknot, then we're just going in unnecessary circles. Rather meant that if it's something that's new and is possible to discuss, then you can do it. There's a difference between "x sucks" and "x sucks because ___". The latter can spark a debate if it's made sensibly, otherwise it cannot, however the former never will.
I'm not trying to encourage more hate in this thread, just saying that people shouldn't hesitate to post your opinions, as long as it follows the theme of the thread, in other words adds to the discussion.
Ok let's try it the other way around: What do you like about them? What makes them special? Disregarding looks (since that's personal preferance) and the usual "Oh she's so hard working" / "She loves the fans" etc shallow stuff
Personally I like Minah cause she's kawaii as fuck.
Plus her and Yura have this probably-fake semi-lesbian thing going on that's both hot and funny at the same time.
And I think that's an annoying feature. So we're back to square one.
You like personal trait A and I hate the same trait. But there's nothing to discuss. So me saying "I hate her because of trait A" does not add to any discussion. (contrary to what HaX mentioned)
Well..yeah.
But it's probably better to elaborate than to not elaborate simply because someone disagrees. If you see "I love Minah cause she's so kawaii" and all you have to add is "fuck no she ain't kawaii bitch" then all you have to do is not respond. Someone else might be all "Fuck yea she's so kawaii mang" and then we have a discussion (or as close to one as KMD gets). If all you post is "I LOVE MINAH" then there's not much to say is there?
So all you had to add to my "Her aegyo is really annoying" is "She's sooo kawaii & hot and I like her lesbian vibes with Yura!" - which basically just is a "her aegyo is not annoying!" ? And then it's all about who has more people who care about posting those additional lines? So a popularity contest? Sorry, but I personally dont see any value in that kind of discussion (as in: they're just opinions, which you cannot change and there is no right/wrong one). :/
All the posts in this thread are either picspams or opinions so I fail to see your point.
And it's not really a popularity contest cause there's nothing to "win", it's just people stating their opinions, no?
And as "valueless" as that discussion is it's better than the thread being full of agressive one liners like "minah is awful". TL requires substance to your post and this thread should too.
So we're indeed back to: People who dislike something for the same reasons why people like something (opinion) should keep that to themselves? Which actually was my initial standpoint (only HaX said that he wanted to have "haters" post as well so we could have a discussion). People just stating just their opinions also doesnt lead to discussion (another one of HaX's points).
And the "X is awesome" etc posts (see recent Day by Day posts about Jiyeon) have the same substance as a "Minah is awful" Dont really see your point there.
On July 05 2012 05:31 ASie wrote: Ahaha KMD is ridiculous. :p Getting riled up over a few comments. Maybe I should just go back to lurking...
I dont think anyone is riled up over anything here. It's actually 2 people having a discussion
No they can post that they dislike something, but it should be more than "X sucks". Just like posting that you like something should be more than "X is awesome." It's about the amount of substance, not the opinion itself.
edit- @AndyRau- Yura>Hyeri>Minah>Sojin>Jihae in my book.
Before going to bed, I'd just like to point out the irony of you two having an ongoing conversation based on one of you hating on something the other one doesn't, essentially proving my point while trying to disprove it :s
Also:
On July 05 2012 05:24 Vorgrim wrote: Minah and Yura as lesbians is something I would be ok with.
thanks for giving me something to dream about, gn <3
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