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On November 18 2011 09:14 XaI)CyRiC wrote: Why are you even posting if you're not going to add anything to the discussion?
Because comparing SIStar choreo to the Cry Cry choreo is a little bit of a far off comparison and a bad standard for discussion. You'd be better off comparing DBSK's Rising Sun live perfs. Which they didn't even bother lipsyncing because of how much more involved the dance was.
I actually don't see how the Cry Cry choreo is much more physically taxing than Sistar's choreography. I admit that the Cry Cry choreography looks very impressive, but it looks like more is going on than actually is because there are so many people involved, i.e. all the T-ara members and their backup dancers. There are multiple moments where most of the members are doing nothing but standing still (i.e. when Soyeon has her solos, right after Jiyeon's slide, Boram's dance solo, jacket removal, etc.). What really makes it look so difficult is that the movements are very sharp at times, particularly during the chorus.
If you look at one of Sistar's more active dance routines, such as Push Push, you'll see that they're doing quite a bit themselves throughout the song. There are few pauses, and usually the members who aren't in the spotlight are still doing some movement/dancing. The fact that there's only four of them and that they had no backup dancers necessitated them being in constant motion or always doing something to avoid looking stagnant. I'm not going to say that the choreography for Cry Cry is more or less tiring than Push Push, but I don't think you argue that there's a significant difference either way.
Also, I don't see why you mentioned lipsyncing in your original comment when discussing Sistar since they're one of the groups known for almost never lipsyncing, and it's pretty obvious when you see them performing live. They're very energetic while on stage and there's very little difference between their practice dancing and their live performance. You can hear all the members singing their parts and during the choruses as well.
Take a look again at the Cry Cry live performance and you'll see that the T-ara members aren't nearly as sharp or precise with their choreography and don't display much energy either. There's a significant disparity between their practice and live performances. There are long periods where only one member sings, and that includes the choruses. In fact, it's pretty clear that there's only one person singing the choruses. None of them are singing as hard as Hyorin did, and the rap portions even lack the impact that Bora's did.
To be fair, this is just one performance, and their first one at that. Eunjung was recovering from falling off of a horse and Soyeon had been ill. But, that doesn't explain the rest of the members or the general lackluster performance. There's clearly a lot of room for improvement, it just remains to be seen if they can improve enough.
On November 18 2011 09:14 XaI)CyRiC wrote: Why are you even posting if you're not going to add anything to the discussion?
Because comparing SIStar choreo to the Cry Cry choreo is a little bit of a far off comparison and a bad standard for discussion. You'd be better off comparing DBSK's Rising Sun live perfs. Which they didn't even bother lipsyncing because of how much more involved the dance was.
P.S. This post is much better than your first one and I wouldn't have had any problem with it. It actually has some points and explanation for your position that someone can actually engage in a discussion with.
I liked Rania's song. Choreo was kinda awkward though, especially at the chorus when they say "Pop Pop Pop." I like that type of music in general. Is it called electro pop?
I fucking hate the director of T-ara's MVs, always ruining their songs with that god damn 1 second shot switching, at least it's not as bad as IGCBOY. Qri looks gorgeous while Hyomin looks terrible with that short haircut.
it's like they record a bunch of different videos, hotkey them to different letters on a keyboard, and then get one of the staff member's babies to bang on it to make their trainwrecks of MVs
On November 18 2011 11:56 OopsOopsBaby wrote: all i can say is the video editing is terrible.
Well shitty editing is a staple of T-ara videos so whatever.
Imho it's worse than normal. Try to look at the center of your screen - apart from group scenes, Hyomin's start dance, a suprise Qri (1:39) and Eunjungyou will never see anything which is focused at the center. It's always off a bit to the left / right. Now combine that with the normal "3different scenes in 1sec"-Tara music producer/editor fetish and you have a video where you constantly try to refocus the important parts (the girls^^) since they're not there where you expect them to be. And when you found them - they're gone.
Also same problem as with the M Countdown: If it's the chorus "Baby cant you see that look in my eyes" - just a normal front shot. It will work with that choreo....
On November 18 2011 11:56 OopsOopsBaby wrote: all i can say is the video editing is terrible.
Well shitty editing is a staple of T-ara videos so whatever.
Imho it's worse than normal. Try to look at the center of your screen - apart from Hyomin start dance, a suprise Qri (1:39) and Eunjung you will never see anything which is focused at the center. It's always off a bit to the left / right. Now combine that with the normal "3different scenes in 1sec"-Tara music producer/editor fetish and you have a video where you constantly try to refocus the important parts (the girls^^) since they're not there where you expect them to be. And when you found them - they're gone.
Also same problem as with the M Countdown: If it's the chorus "Baby cant you see that look in my eyes" - just a normal front shot. It will work with that choreo....
Side note; anyone else notice the lyrics on M countdown read "baby cant you see that look at my eyes". Bugged me.
The editing is horrible as others have said. They cut to a solo shot of Hyomin right in the middle of the best part of the choreo. This is supposed to be a dance version, what gives?
i'm still of the opinion that the original practice choreo video which gave us a panorama of the entire room was the best camera directing. an unattended camera counts as camera directing right?
The one thing that really bothered me about that video is how half of the solo shots have like 20% of their heads cropped off the top. I'm fine with people being off center, in fact I think it makes the shot look better for the most part, but its weird when you can't even see their whole head.
Also, why seizure shots? It feels like any shot that's longer then 3s has to be shaken -_-
On November 18 2011 12:27 andyrau wrote: i'm still of the opinion that the original practice choreo video which gave us a panorama of the entire room was the best camera directing. an unattended camera counts as camera directing right?
anyhow it's far superior imo.
Usually a dance version is just that, an unattended camera, or atleast a camera in the centre like normal e.g + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGlMAH6iji4
This ''dance'' version just looks like a regular MV rather then a dance version, cause it cuts to member solo shots ever 1 0.01s
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