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On October 30 2011 07:44 NB wrote: this thread is so freaking NSFW... i dont know how to explain to the guy next to me what im doing on this thread with having a silent moment of awkwardness
not as awkward as being a high school girl looking at it during school, lolololo
I think a first year guy reading through it in his computer science lecture with 50 other guys staring over his shoulder is worse.
Pretty depressing too, but it's not like people didn't speculate such things to happen beforehand.
Idk.
It's a delicious thought that the industry works to hard to present these girls as 'pure-hearted' virgins only to whore them out in backrooms.
I'm assuming this is true for the top girl groups as well.
I think its true all the way to the top, i mean Kara is id say in the top 5 maybe top 3 girl groups and they almost broke up demanding better treatment from their record company.
i think kpop is like any other business but if you just look at any page in this thread you can see what they value, looks, looks, and then singing ... but thats the music business i guess.
You'd figure somebody would be smart enough to go get some evidence and sue the companies, it couldn't be hard to place a hidden camera and show the despicable acts, even if the companies have big reputations and influence outcomes I'm pretty sure netizens won't stay down. Especially after that one actresses accusations before she committed suicide.
That is of course if it were true, I mean there is a possibility that they could have been sexually abused but, if it really was that big of a ring then why hasn't anybody done anything to stop it?
Pretty depressing too, but it's not like people didn't speculate such things to happen beforehand.
Idk.
It's a delicious thought that the industry works to hard to present these girls as 'pure-hearted' virgins only to whore them out in backrooms.
I'm assuming this is true for the top girl groups as well.
yeah no wonder they get no sleep, this is pretty ugly there's only so long you can pretend you don't know about it
The whole business is pretty sick considering how young most of the girls are when they receive their 'training'. A 10-12 year old's sensibilities are severely malleable. They're probably conditioned to to tolerate abuse and brainwashed into thinking their lives glamorous.
But seriously. I can't get over the fact that a lot of these girls are ACTUALLY forced into underage prostitution.
I wonder what makes Korean culture tolerate this sort of thing.
If you think about it though it's not even that strange that they tolerate it, and it's a bit harsh to just say Koreans too because no matter where or how far back in history you go it's always been the same thing, and that is people don't care about anything other than their own dicks. But isn't that human nature then?
Pretty depressing too, but it's not like people didn't speculate such things to happen beforehand.
Idk.
It's a delicious thought that the industry works to hard to present these girls as 'pure-hearted' virgins only to whore them out in backrooms.
I'm assuming this is true for the top girl groups as well.
yeah no wonder they get no sleep, this is pretty ugly there's only so long you can pretend you don't know about it
The whole business is pretty sick considering how young most of the girls are when they receive their 'training'. A 10-12 year old's sensibilities are severely malleable. They're probably conditioned to to tolerate abuse and brainwashed into thinking their lives glamorous.
But seriously. I can't get over the fact that a lot of these girls are ACTUALLY forced into underage prostitution.
I wonder what makes Korean culture tolerate this sort of thing.
What I -really- don't understand is that the fact that kpop isn't a relatively new thing in korea, so obviously these sorts of shady business have been going on for awhile.
I honestly hope the korean government does some heavy investigations into this matter, if this sort of scandal happens in North America or even in Europe:
the public would simply never let go of it - it'd be an uproar. But it seems like it was just a breeze in korean media, with light sentences on the offenders as well.
As a foreigner, it's easy to see what they're (rumored, can't say confirmed since the OP in the reddit post wants to be anonymous) to be doing is atrocious. But a korean friend of mine says that Koreans have a heavily patriarchal society and that korean women are subservient to the max as well, so it wouldn't be too unbelievable for them to just take it.
Pretty depressing too, but it's not like people didn't speculate such things to happen beforehand.
Idk.
It's a delicious thought that the industry works to hard to present these girls as 'pure-hearted' virgins only to whore them out in backrooms.
I'm assuming this is true for the top girl groups as well.
yeah no wonder they get no sleep, this is pretty ugly there's only so long you can pretend you don't know about it
The whole business is pretty sick considering how young most of the girls are when they receive their 'training'. A 10-12 year old's sensibilities are severely malleable. They're probably conditioned to to tolerate abuse and brainwashed into thinking their lives glamorous.
But seriously. I can't get over the fact that a lot of these girls are ACTUALLY forced into underage prostitution.
I wonder what makes Korean culture tolerate this sort of thing.
What I -really- don't understand is that the fact that kpop isn't a relatively new thing in korea, so obviously these sorts of shady business have been going on for awhile.
I honestly hope the korean government does some heavy investigations into this matter, if this sort of scandal happens in North America or even in Europe:
the public would simply never let go of it - it'd be an uproar. But it seems like it was just a breeze in korean media, with light sentences on the offenders as well.
As a foreigner, it's easy to see what they're (rumored, can't say confirmed since the OP in the reddit post wants to be anonymous) to be doing is atrocious. But a korean friend of mine says that Koreans have a heavily patriarchal society and that korean women are subservient to the max as well, so it wouldn't be too unbelievable for them to just take it.
It's just sick.
I'm starting to think that South Korea's total embrace of Christianity has really perverted their values.
The contradictory obsession with sex, yet claiming to idolize 'purity' is distinctly Roman Catholic.
It's pretty impressive the number of adults in this thread who un-ironically ogle these girls without feeling some measure of disgust with their situation.
The unlikeliness of kpop truly going global is due to this. The exploitation story is just too good for Western media to ignore.
It could be easily argued that we're all blind to what is going on in the back scenes, but, It could also interpreted as: fucking incidents. This isn't going on with every actress/performer you morons.
Are we assuming every girl-idol has had sex with an executive of some sort? I mean, not to poke at her but Jang Ja Yeon did not have any major roles, you'd figure that her agent was pretty pissed she wasn't making him any money and resorted to the easy of way of climbing the ladder, using scare tactics to make her do so (It's not like every manager or agent is like that).
It's still pretty disgusting that it does exist though.
I dunno about you guys but when the match fixing scandal hit my first thought was "so was all of it just one big hoax, everything fixed?" Then when I found out it's not and it's just those few guys my second thought was "Savior???"
My point is the first thing seems instinctively at least possible to me. The second thing - expect it.
Pretty depressing too, but it's not like people didn't speculate such things to happen beforehand.
Idk.
It's a delicious thought that the industry works to hard to present these girls as 'pure-hearted' virgins only to whore them out in backrooms.
I'm assuming this is true for the top girl groups as well.
yeah no wonder they get no sleep, this is pretty ugly there's only so long you can pretend you don't know about it
The whole business is pretty sick considering how young most of the girls are when they receive their 'training'. A 10-12 year old's sensibilities are severely malleable. They're probably conditioned to to tolerate abuse and brainwashed into thinking their lives glamorous.
But seriously. I can't get over the fact that a lot of these girls are ACTUALLY forced into underage prostitution.
I wonder what makes Korean culture tolerate this sort of thing.
What I -really- don't understand is that the fact that kpop isn't a relatively new thing in korea, so obviously these sorts of shady business have been going on for awhile.
I honestly hope the korean government does some heavy investigations into this matter, if this sort of scandal happens in North America or even in Europe:
the public would simply never let go of it - it'd be an uproar. But it seems like it was just a breeze in korean media, with light sentences on the offenders as well.
As a foreigner, it's easy to see what they're (rumored, can't say confirmed since the OP in the reddit post wants to be anonymous) to be doing is atrocious. But a korean friend of mine says that Koreans have a heavily patriarchal society and that korean women are subservient to the max as well, so it wouldn't be too unbelievable for them to just take it.
It's just sick.
I'm starting to think that South Korea's total embrace of Christianity has really perverted their values.
The contradictory obsession with sex, yet claiming to idolize 'purity' is distinctly Roman Catholic.
It's pretty impressive the number of adults in this thread who un-ironically ogle these girls without feeling some measure of disgust with their situation.
The unlikeliness of kpop truly going global is due to this. The exploitation story is just too good for Western media to ignore.
Protestantism is much more prominent that Catholicism in South Korea. Within this South Korean Protestantism, the main theme is neo-Calvinism.
On October 30 2011 15:14 doovchan wrote: It could be easily argued that we're all blind to what is going on in the back scenes, but, It could also interpreted as: fucking incidents. This isn't going on with every actress/performer you morons.
Nobody's claiming that it's happening to every idol/actress, but the fact that it DOES happen is pretty sickening already.