EPTidols overworked
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IV drips
need connections to work in music industry
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
idols overworked girls idols as sex objects IV drips need connections to work in music industry etc | ||
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Pulselol
Canada1628 Posts
On October 30 2011 15:55 DarkOptik wrote: Everyone remembers about the list that Jang wrote, but no one seems to remember that it was found to be fabricated. http://www.allkpop.com/2011/03/national-forensic-service-confirms-that-jang-ja-yeons-letters-were-fabricated Unless of course, you believe the NFS to be corrupt as well, but at some point you have to trust the government. Or maybe not, if you're into the conspiracy theory sort of thing. The possibility that the NFS is corrupt and the redditor's post being bullshit would be equally probable. It's not like people haven't lied on the internet before, and it's not like the korean government hasn't had corruption scandals either. I personally hope that all of this exploitation business is false, but that's probably just naive of me to think that zero exploitation would occur in such an industry, especially in such an unregulated industry. | ||
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Ym1r
United States1164 Posts
On October 30 2011 16:02 McBroski wrote: Police said that the 26-year-old actress apparently hanged herself from a stairway railing and was discovered by her sister around 7:30 p.m. So upon discovering her dead body hanging from the ceiling, her family/sister FAKED the suicide note? It makes no sense whatsoever. You know what also doesn't make sense? Why anybody would ever post that on Reddit than going to the media first. | ||
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McBroski
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koreasilver
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On October 30 2011 15:56 McBroski wrote: Fine. But explain to be why a disproportionate number of kpop Idols are Christian, and I'll leave satisfied enough not to broach the subject of religion in this thread again. I don't really see how that has any relevance to any of the prior things you've said. Also, I've never heard this before. I'd wager it more on the fact that maybe the Christians are more vocal about their beliefs than the non-religious majority. Even if it is true, it may be explained by the fact that Korean Christians tend to network rather extensively through their churches. But this still is all irrelevant to what we were talking about. | ||
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
On October 30 2011 16:14 McBroski wrote: I dare anyone to find any information released regarding the nature of Jang's death. As far as I can tell, it's either never been printed or since been scrubbed from existence. Two years after the official investigation, the NFS comes out of the blue to say that the letter was faked as if to set the 'official' record. How does this not seem suspicious? In what reality does someone have the time OR motive to fabricate a 7-page letter detailing a history of exploitation and abuse of a women who 'presumably' experienced none? angry family wants to squeeze some money out of the people who overworked her, not that crazy to me not saying that i don't believe this is true, just saying they could have a motive | ||
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Ym1r
United States1164 Posts
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Craze4
Hong Kong11 Posts
On October 30 2011 16:05 Ym1r wrote: You know what also doesn't make sense? Why anybody would ever post that on Reddit than going to the media first. You keep bringing this up, but from the AMA (whether true or not) he claims to like his job. I think he accepts the abuse some idols face, and is content to continue working in the industry despite it. Just like many idols do. Neither party are willing to report this behavior as the net good of their careers outweigh the negative aspects. Frankly, if I were in his position I'd do the same thing. I would never report it to the media and risk losing my job. Anonymously posting it to the internet sounds much safer. Anyway, this topic is kind of a circlejerk. We all acknowledge some idols are overworked and possibly abused. That doesn't stop us from consuming the content they churn out. So here's KMK: ![[image loading]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v9C-1PjZ3LA/Tq0GQ3FixII/AAAAAAAAAr8/r4o6Jlim8-U/s512/436559412.jpeg) | ||
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chiwawa
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However when it comes to girl groups I haven't seen anything other than the scandal with Chocholate (don't confuse with Chocolat). But to say that not anything bad is happening in the industry would just be too naive. Considering most female idols aren't even 18 years old when they debut i'm having a hard time believing there would be sexual favors involved. But it's probably likely that they have to entertain guests or do other things that could be somewhat questionable. This type of services should probably be a bit less common if not non existent among the bigger companies that actually has a lot to lose if they were ever caught. Like if it came out that [insert girl] from [SM/JYP/YG] had given sexual favors in exchange for something would probably ruin the whole company and that shouldn't be a risk they are willing to take. Tl;DR: Smaller the company is the likelier it is that questionable things are happening. | ||
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Ym1r
United States1164 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
and although I started to like the boys ever since the live performances, but the secret song is just more catchy | ||
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Radioman
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DarkOptik
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On October 30 2011 16:14 McBroski wrote: I dare anyone to find any information released regarding the nature of Jang's death. As far as I can tell, it's either never been printed or since been scrubbed from existence. Two years after the official investigation, the NFS comes out of the blue to say that the letter was faked as if to set the 'official' record. How does this not seem suspicious? In what reality does someone have the time OR motive to fabricate a 7-page letter detailing a history of exploitation and abuse of a women who 'presumably' experienced none? No matter what they do, they can't win. If they don't follow up on it, you'll just complain that they swept it completely under the rug. But now that they actually did, you're complaining how it doesn't fit your theory. You can sit there and complain all you want about the injustice of the case, but the only evidence you have to judge them on is what has been released in the media, which very well may or may not be correct in the first place (you're complaining about the news that gets published, yet choose which ones are and are not correct of your own volition). You say that there's no information, yet the information that has been scrubbed from existence is right here: "Police received a 119 emergency call yesterday evening from Ja Yun’s sister and rushed to the scene. But it was too late when they got there as Ja Yun had already passed away a few hours ago by hanging herself from a railing along her stairs. No will or anything was left behind by her. The last known phonecall that Ja Yun made was to her friend yesterday at 2.30pm which seemed to have foreshadowed of what was going to happen next as she said that she was very tired and wanted to die." http://www.allkpop.com/2009/03/jang_ja_yun_suicide_because_of_depression Here's another source that says practically the same thing: http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2901981 And here: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/special/2009/03/178_40909.html You know how I found these? A search on allkpop and her wiki page. For the love of god stop acting like it's all hushed up when everyone in kpop knows about it. | ||
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ZzZBored
Australia368 Posts
On October 30 2011 16:42 AsnSensation wrote: Wow Tablo part 2 feat Taeyang is awesome, loiked "bad" as well and although I started to like the boys ever since the live performances, but the secret song is just more catchy Tablo was epic, not happy that he didnt win -.- | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On October 30 2011 16:50 ZzZBored wrote: Tablo was epic, not happy that he didnt win -.- I think, artist can't win in the first week on inkigayo anways, but I doubt he's going to because of snsd. | ||
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Ym1r
United States1164 Posts
On October 30 2011 16:50 ZzZBored wrote: Tablo was epic, not happy that he didnt win -.- As a massive GG fan I'm going to say that I agree. This is literally why everybody moved their comeback dates further though, you just don't want to compete against somebody you know you won't win against. No matter how good another song or performance is their fan base is just too big, and too dedicated. Tablo deserved the win, but at least The Boys is better than everybody else imo. | ||
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chiwawa
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On October 30 2011 16:59 Ym1r wrote: As a massive GG fan I'm going to say that I agree. This is literally why everybody moved their comeback dates further though, you just don't want to compete against somebody you know you won't win against. No matter how good another song or performance is their fan base is just too big, and too dedicated. Tablo deserved the win, but at least The Boys is better than everybody else imo. You don't win your first week anyway, but yeah Tablo - Bad was the best performance of today. Too bad he will probably have problems winning even upcoming weeks considering SNSD. And as usual you could see how ridiculously well YG artists get treated on Inkigayo. | ||
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Ym1r
United States1164 Posts
On October 30 2011 17:05 Maekju wrote: You don't win your first week anyway, but yeah Tablo - Bad was the best performance of today. Too bad he will probably have problems winning even upcoming weeks considering SNSD. And as usual you could see how ridiculously well YG artists get treated on Inkigayo. Yeah, I saw the comment above mine after I posted mine  . Bad was def. my fav perf. It's a shame he probably won't win but I'm still hoping for the best. | ||
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
my god tablo was amazing too bad SNSD is going to win every fcking week and no one else stands a chance even though their song blows | ||
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Moonwrath
United States9568 Posts
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