EPTAnime Discussion Thread - Page 6413
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Dangermousecatdog
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Miragee
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I think it's imdb score is way off, people are rating it too low. In most ways it is superior to your name, I think. Overall I'd give your name like an 8.9 and Weathering With You a 9.0. | ||
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Miragee
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sharkie
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Unleashing
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Numy
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On January 19 2020 05:26 Numy wrote: Haven't watched it yet. Think it's on Netflix. The hype around it from what I could gather was more about marketing and accessibility. People don't really know how many good anime movies there are out there outside of Ghibli works. Got any recommendations? | ||
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Numy
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I have feelings and I'm moved by good movies with compelling stories and well written characters. I don't think Your Name has any of those things. Wolf Children, now that's a good anime movie. | ||
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On January 19 2020 05:59 Numy wrote: Strike Witches the Movie. you think so? On January 19 2020 07:02 Unleashing wrote: The movie was a solid 5/10 if I ignore the animation, animation carries it hard though. I have feelings and I'm moved by good movies with compelling stories and well written characters. I don't think Your Name has any of those things. Wolf Children, now that's a good anime movie. Wolf Children is fantastic. Might be better than Your Name. I think there is legitimacy to a lack of character development in Your Name, but I don't agree about the story not being compelling. The story being compelling is what propelled it's success. It agree that it has shortfalls but I feel like it makes up for them in other ways. | ||
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Miragee
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I have feelings and I'm moved by good movies with compelling stories and well written characters. I don't think Your Name has any of those things. My exact thoughts, thank you. @Numy: It was also super popular in Japan where anime movies are obviously more mainstream. On January 19 2020 07:15 travis wrote: I think there is legitimacy to a lack of character development in Your Name, but I don't agree about the story not being compelling. The story being compelling is what propelled it's success. It agree that it has shortfalls but I feel like it makes up for them in other ways. See, this is what I don't understand. It's not a new story nor is it particularly well written. Same goes for the characters. Movies like this exist en masse. Why would this one rise from a sea of mediocrity to become an internationally acclaimed masterpiece? | ||
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Toadesstern
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Like Miragee mentioned, it was incredibly popular in Japan as well. Much more so than abroad. People who never watched anime besides the day-time stuff like Doraemon, Detective Conan went to see it. Parents took their kids to see it because it's wholesome enough to show it to little kids etc. The quality of the animation does surely help and it's a touching story. I'd agree that there's not necessarily a lot of character developement but I'd argue that the characters start out a lot stronger than most other characters in other movies and thus just feel a fair bit more real from the get go which makes it more relatable, which again plays into the same not-actually-anime-fans crowd. Especially with it basicly being a romance story between two teenagers, one from the countryside, the other living in Tokyo, which is just super normal and not some "weird" animu storyline. Yes it has bodyswitching and then the end but I'd argue that those are afterthoughts. It being about a natural disaster after the Earthquake probably helped as well for the people in Japan but realistically speaking that's only a thing you find out about later so I don't think that's the main driving focus but wouldn't be surprised if that's a nice afterthought? Idk, hard to judge that thing as i really can't imagine the situation. It's just really a movie that's very easy to find some enjoyment in for a large amount of people without homing in on a specific niche target audiance I think. | ||
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Miragee
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On January 19 2020 19:58 sharkie wrote: Wrong on everything you say about this movie. If I hurt your feelings, I'm sorry about that (not sarcastic). On January 19 2020 20:18 Toadesstern wrote: Imo Your Name's popularity comes from it being enjoyable for people who are not usually into anime rather than it being a niche product for a niche audiance. Like Miragee mentioned, it was incredibly popular in Japan as well. Much more so than abroad. People who never watched anime besides the day-time stuff like Doraemon, Detective Conan went to see it. Parents took their kids to see it because it's wholesome enough to show it to little kids etc. The quality of the animation does surely help and it's a touching story. I'd agree that there's not necessarily a lot of character developement but I'd argue that the characters start out a lot stronger than most other characters in other movies and thus just feel a fair bit more real from the get go which makes it more relatable, which again plays into the same not-actually-anime-fans crowd. Especially with it basicly being a romance story between two teenagers, one from the countryside, the other living in Tokyo, which is just super normal and not some "weird" animu storyline. Yes it has bodyswitching and then the end but I'd argue that those are afterthoughts. It being about a natural disaster after the Earthquake probably helped as well for the people in Japan but realistically speaking that's only a thing you find out about later so I don't think that's the main driving focus but wouldn't be surprised if that's a nice afterthought? Idk, hard to judge that thing as i really can't imagine the situation. It's just really a movie that's very easy to find some enjoyment in for a large amount of people without homing in on a specific niche target audiance I think. Hm yeah, that makes quite a lot of sense. I also feel like "hype" spirals "out of control" more rapidly and stronger than it used to because of the internet and all the established social media plattforms. Something that gets traction can blow up much more easily. That being said, there has to be more to it because I think there are movies that tick all the boxes mentioned here. And the more I think about it, the more I think it maybe the compositional use of animation, artwork, music and most importantly the design/look. Even though animation on that level and better has been done before, that's not what most people realise on first sight or even keep an eye on. Same goes for music. Both help, as you said. What really seems to be visually stunning for a lot of people is the design/look, which is a mix of artwork, colouring, shaders, effects etc. If you want to point out a difference between Shinkai's movies and other anime movies, that's probably it. It's extremely different from western animated look so it can draw a stark line internationally. But even in Japan, where anime is more mainstream, its look is very different from other works in the medium. If you look around online to look at anime-like artwork, some of the most popular stuff is very similar in design to Shinkai's. And on a smaller scale in the anime community, a ton of people were uber-impressed by the visuals of FS/N UBW and the movies which, again, are more about the design/look, as defined above, than about actual animation. So yeah, while I agree that everything you mentioned plays an important role and helps, I doubt the movie would have been that successful if it wasn't for the new/different stunning graphics and the fact that the hype spiraled out of control. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
I'd argue the timing was just perfect as well for this movie. It's obviously not his first movie and his previous works could have just as much blown up as Your Name if it were to just boil down to the visuals. Or just the story as a lot of his works are a bit into that direction from what I've heard? As in, easy to digest for normies. But Your Name came out a couple years after the Wind Rises, with Miyazaki Hayao retiring again (?) and iirc it felt more like he's actually retiring that time so during that time there was that feeling of everyone looking out for who's going to step into his footsteps or who's going to be the next Miyazaki Hayao. And if you're forcing it like that and you have it on your mind that someone else has to be the next great movie director like that hype builds even easier in media. | ||
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Topin
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