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On April 10 2018 12:56 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 09:23 Miragee wrote:On April 10 2018 00:49 BigFan wrote:
Always silly to see people dismiss seasonals as trash when there's a lot of fun stuff to watch usually. To be fair, most seasonals are pretty mediocre or worse. Of course there are occasional gems but that's only logical when you realise that most gems from the past once were seasonals as well. Yes, that's what really funny and ironic about such statements. Majority of anime that have finished airing were seasonals too at one point >.> As for most being mediocre or worse, well, it's not like every single currently airing anime will ever appeal to you etc... So long as you're able to find several decent ones to watch, I would say that's a pretty good season. I had 5+ airing anime that I thoroughly enjoyed last season.
When people talk about "seasonals" they talking about those shows that are essentially identical arround a common theme/goal each season. Remember a year or two ago where every single season had basically 3-4 generic battle harems which were almost identical? That kind of thing. Whatever fad is the current LN trend tends to be the seasonal fad. Hell we still get generic "transported to game world" shit every season since SAO. Every season has it's score of ecchi harem shows that are basically the same. These type of shows boil down to a checklist of tropes they go through and be done with it. There's no room for them to try do anything original.
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On April 10 2018 05:43 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Golden Kamuy might be AOTS. That first episode was intense and animation (minus CGI) was on point.
Bear CGI was just awful lol. Looked solid otherwise, despite the CGI and the fast paced and stiff conversations the main characters had.
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On April 10 2018 05:43 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Golden Kamuy might be AOTS. That first episode was intense and animation (minus CGI) was on point.
oh it definitely has its moments, but I don't remember why I stopped reading the manga.
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Even if someone in here said that the Pubg-clone was better for them than SAO usually is I didn't really think so myself.
P-chan was cute, the human attached to it had it's moments but I wouldn't really say it felt better or worse than SAO. Different yeah but I certainly had my moments with it as well.
I'll try waching ep2 and 3 but I don't really see me continuing
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On April 10 2018 17:58 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 12:56 BigFan wrote:On April 10 2018 09:23 Miragee wrote:On April 10 2018 00:49 BigFan wrote:
Always silly to see people dismiss seasonals as trash when there's a lot of fun stuff to watch usually. To be fair, most seasonals are pretty mediocre or worse. Of course there are occasional gems but that's only logical when you realise that most gems from the past once were seasonals as well. Yes, that's what really funny and ironic about such statements. Majority of anime that have finished airing were seasonals too at one point >.> As for most being mediocre or worse, well, it's not like every single currently airing anime will ever appeal to you etc... So long as you're able to find several decent ones to watch, I would say that's a pretty good season. I had 5+ airing anime that I thoroughly enjoyed last season. When people talk about "seasonals" they talking about those shows that are essentially identical arround a common theme/goal each season. Remember a year or two ago where every single season had basically 3-4 generic battle harems which were almost identical? That kind of thing. Whatever fad is the current LN trend tends to be the seasonal fad. Hell we still get generic "transported to game world" shit every season since SAO. Every season has it's score of ecchi harem shows that are basically the same. These type of shows boil down to a checklist of tropes they go through and be done with it. There's no room for them to try do anything original.
While i agree with you sometimes not all the "seasonal" anime are always bad. When we had SAO, we got a bunch of Isekai anime later but we also got Konosuba which was pretty top tier stuff but it was part of the Isekai trend(the rest vary very little tho so yeah).
I'm not sure if SAO or Konosuba was first made as an LN.
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Might not be the best example. Numy hates KonoSuba.
idk what you mean with which was first made as an LN. SAO predates KonoSuba, both in LN as well as Animeform. Google says SAO was first published in 2009 while KonoSuba is from 2012. The anime originally aired in late 2012 (SAO) and 2016 (KonoSuba).
So yeah, we probably wouldn't have KonoSuba without SAO being as popular as it is.
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I'd personally also put konosuba into the "seasonal garbage" folder.
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Ah then sorry Numy i can't think of a better example but konosuba is good shit ur loss for hatin it. So SAO came first which means Konosuba was really a pleasant surprise from the trend.
I don't think i watch enough per season to produce another example.
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I merely told Toad I didn't enjoy it's humour and couldn't get past how bad the quality of the animation was. My "hatred" is in that there is a subset of the anime viewing public that shits on older anime for "bad animation" while watching something like Konosuba. The show itself I'm sure is fine past that aspect if that's your type of humor. The cycle of any trend is that you will get some gems forming from it. It's like the mass of comic book movies these days still managed to produce something like Logan.
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tbf, that's pretty much the same as "numy hates KonoSuba"
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TG:re got me at the end. Damn this show is going to be good until it hits the current arc in the manga. Starting to suffer from Bleach syndrome.
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On April 10 2018 12:56 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 09:23 Miragee wrote:On April 10 2018 00:49 BigFan wrote:
Always silly to see people dismiss seasonals as trash when there's a lot of fun stuff to watch usually. To be fair, most seasonals are pretty mediocre or worse. Of course there are occasional gems but that's only logical when you realise that most gems from the past once were seasonals as well. Yes, that's what really funny and ironic about such statements. Majority of anime that have finished airing were seasonals too at one point >.> As for most being mediocre or worse, well, it's not like every single currently airing anime will ever appeal to you etc... So long as you're able to find several decent ones to watch, I would say that's a pretty good season. I had 5+ airing anime that I thoroughly enjoyed last season.
Well, I haven't watched a single show last season. There are a couple on my ptw but after watching first episodes I doubt any would be more than "just ok" for me.
I have also noticed that the general quality of shows might have dropped. Often when they adapt an older show again it feels lacking compared to the old adaption. Kino no Tabi comes to my mind. It wasn't a bad adaption per se but it was so much worse than the original one. I have watched the new episode of LoGH and it was good but it also felt lacking compared to the original. Not really sure what's putting me off exactly yet but the way the MCs are designed and animated is definitely one of the reasons. And the CGI as well. And before that argument is used again, I don't think it's nostalgia. I have only started watching anime as a hobby a few years ago so I have watched a lot of those older shows fairly recent.
Just out of curiosity, I went through MAL+ and looked at the time frame 2015-2017 (so last 3 years). I have rated a single show a straight 9/10 (Uchouten s2) which I would consider an absolute gem. That's pretty rough. There are a handful of 8/10s (4, not counting movies) which I would consider gems with reservations. Overall rating of the three seasons (movies included because I'm lazy): 2015=4,5/10; 2016=4,59/10, 2017=5.81.
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On April 09 2018 22:56 BigFan wrote:I mentioned this earlier and I know at least one poster stated that it was intentional but the pacing really killed the story for me. As in, + Show Spoiler +within 4 episodes (I think it was 4?), our MC is already good enough to be writing for a princess? what? This is the same person that just 2 episodes earlier graduated from that school etc... I'd rather they go slow and made it believable for such an anime, rather than speed it up. Yes, they meant it's months later but still, for me at least, this doesn't work as well here.
+ Show Spoiler +I love the show, but yeah, that jump/trust was really illogical, especially because we didn't know how skillful her writing is. Especially because she's not very well spoken, which is kinda important for someone whos essentially a ghost writer.
The animation in Konosuba certainly isn't worth writing home about, but the comedy/charm in that show is simply great.
Comedy taste is probably more polarizing than most aspects of a show/movie/whatever.
Ultimately, its heavily reliant on your sense of humor. I think Step Brothers and Talladega Nights are amazing comedies, but my friends think those movies are beyond stupid.
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It was just too mean to me to be funny. Watched I think the first two maybe three eps and mostly just felt annoyed. I told Toad it reminded me a lot of Veep but in Veep the meanness didn't feel as bad somehow. Maybe because it landed up with the characters being destroyed constantly? Idk. Anyway yea it wasn't my cup of tea.
Comedy is just like that. Makes it very hard to give critical evaluations of the genre.
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On April 11 2018 04:03 Numy wrote:
It was just too mean to me to be funny. Watched I think the first two maybe three eps and mostly just felt annoyed. I told Toad it reminded me a lot of Veep but in Veep the meanness didn't feel as bad somehow. Maybe because it landed up with the characters being destroyed constantly? Idk. Anyway yea it wasn't my cup of tea.
Comedy is just like that. Makes it very hard to give critical evaluations of the genre.
None of the characters on Konosuba has a good time and constantly have things not work out for them.
Konosuba had shit animation but otherwise it was amazing. The VAs in particular were great. Hell the anime didn't even get to the best of the source material.
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On April 10 2018 17:58 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 12:56 BigFan wrote:On April 10 2018 09:23 Miragee wrote:On April 10 2018 00:49 BigFan wrote:
Always silly to see people dismiss seasonals as trash when there's a lot of fun stuff to watch usually. To be fair, most seasonals are pretty mediocre or worse. Of course there are occasional gems but that's only logical when you realise that most gems from the past once were seasonals as well. Yes, that's what really funny and ironic about such statements. Majority of anime that have finished airing were seasonals too at one point >.> As for most being mediocre or worse, well, it's not like every single currently airing anime will ever appeal to you etc... So long as you're able to find several decent ones to watch, I would say that's a pretty good season. I had 5+ airing anime that I thoroughly enjoyed last season. When people talk about "seasonals" they talking about those shows that are essentially identical arround a common theme/goal each season. Remember a year or two ago where every single season had basically 3-4 generic battle harems which were almost identical? That kind of thing. Whatever fad is the current LN trend tends to be the seasonal fad. Hell we still get generic "transported to game world" shit every season since SAO. Every season has it's score of ecchi harem shows that are basically the same. These type of shows boil down to a checklist of tropes they go through and be done with it. There's no room for them to try do anything original.
hmm fair enough though I personally don't mind isekai anime as long as the world is interesting etc...
On April 10 2018 20:58 Toadesstern wrote:
Even if someone in here said that the Pubg-clone was better for them than SAO usually is I didn't really think so myself.
P-chan was cute, the human attached to it had it's moments but I wouldn't really say it felt better or worse than SAO. Different yeah but I certainly had my moments with it as well.
I'll try waching ep2 and 3 but I don't really see me continuing
well, like you, the first episode was promising so hopefully it'll just keep going up.
On April 11 2018 03:02 lestye wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 22:56 BigFan wrote:I mentioned this earlier and I know at least one poster stated that it was intentional but the pacing really killed the story for me. As in, + Show Spoiler +within 4 episodes (I think it was 4?), our MC is already good enough to be writing for a princess? what? This is the same person that just 2 episodes earlier graduated from that school etc... I'd rather they go slow and made it believable for such an anime, rather than speed it up. Yes, they meant it's months later but still, for me at least, this doesn't work as well here. + Show Spoiler +I love the show, but yeah, that jump/trust was really illogical, especially because we didn't know how skillful her writing is. Especially because she's not very well spoken, which is kinda important for someone whos essentially a ghost writer.
The animation in Konosuba certainly isn't worth writing home about, but the comedy/charm in that show is simply great. Comedy taste is probably more polarizing than most aspects of a show/movie/whatever. Ultimately, its heavily reliant on your sense of humor. I think Step Brothers and Talladega Nights are amazing comedies, but my friends think those movies are beyond stupid.
It killed the show for me, that jump haha. I dropped it right after.
I loved Konosuba personally and felt that the comedy/charm of the show was great. Even now, I still remember that toad episode or the time they went to the priestess' town and such. Even if some jokes get recycled, it was good enough to get me laughing every single episode. Animation was somewhat bad, sure but it was too good to pass up over that.
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PSA that the best isekai anime are things like Dunebine, Escaflowne, or Rayearth
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On April 11 2018 02:45 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 12:56 BigFan wrote:On April 10 2018 09:23 Miragee wrote:On April 10 2018 00:49 BigFan wrote:
Always silly to see people dismiss seasonals as trash when there's a lot of fun stuff to watch usually. To be fair, most seasonals are pretty mediocre or worse. Of course there are occasional gems but that's only logical when you realise that most gems from the past once were seasonals as well. Yes, that's what really funny and ironic about such statements. Majority of anime that have finished airing were seasonals too at one point >.> As for most being mediocre or worse, well, it's not like every single currently airing anime will ever appeal to you etc... So long as you're able to find several decent ones to watch, I would say that's a pretty good season. I had 5+ airing anime that I thoroughly enjoyed last season. Well, I haven't watched a single show last season. There are a couple on my ptw but after watching first episodes I doubt any would be more than "just ok" for me. I have also noticed that the general quality of shows might have dropped. Often when they adapt an older show again it feels lacking compared to the old adaption. Kino no Tabi comes to my mind. It wasn't a bad adaption per se but it was so much worse than the original one. I have watched the new episode of LoGH and it was good but it also felt lacking compared to the original. Not really sure what's putting me off exactly yet but the way the MCs are designed and animated is definitely one of the reasons. And the CGI as well. And before that argument is used again, I don't think it's nostalgia. I have only started watching anime as a hobby a few years ago so I have watched a lot of those older shows fairly recent. Just out of curiosity, I went through MAL+ and looked at the time frame 2015-2017 (so last 3 years). I have rated a single show a straight 9/10 (Uchouten s2) which I would consider an absolute gem. That's pretty rough. There are a handful of 8/10s (4, not counting movies) which I would consider gems with reservations. Overall rating of the three seasons (movies included because I'm lazy): 2015=4,5/10; 2016=4,59/10, 2017=5.81.
On March 22 2018 02:10 BigFan wrote:
Yes, for me, this season has been pretty decent enough. Overlord, Takagi-san, Gakuen Babysitters, that silly trashy shogi anime, black clover, dbs and 3-gatsu (continuations but w/e) etc...
Even if you ignore the continuations and that silly trashy shogi anime, that's 3 anime I looked forward too. With the rest, 7 anime which imo is pretty decent overall . My scoring has changed a lot over the years too so I don't bother comparing anime scores from 2 years ago to now, especially since I don't have one genre that I like. Rather, I watch a lot of different types of anime.
Do I think anime quality has gone down? Tbh, I have no clue. Maybe there was a slight decrease? Without making a list of the anime that aired in order to compare, I wouldn't be able to tell you. In the end, all that matters is that I've been finding several new anime a season to watch which is great. As for remakes, I think earlier anime always had a charm to them that remakes can never replicate.
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I love the art style of megalobox. Trigun/Cowboy Bebop vibes.
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On April 11 2018 04:40 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 02:45 Miragee wrote:On April 10 2018 12:56 BigFan wrote:On April 10 2018 09:23 Miragee wrote:On April 10 2018 00:49 BigFan wrote:
Always silly to see people dismiss seasonals as trash when there's a lot of fun stuff to watch usually. To be fair, most seasonals are pretty mediocre or worse. Of course there are occasional gems but that's only logical when you realise that most gems from the past once were seasonals as well. Yes, that's what really funny and ironic about such statements. Majority of anime that have finished airing were seasonals too at one point >.> As for most being mediocre or worse, well, it's not like every single currently airing anime will ever appeal to you etc... So long as you're able to find several decent ones to watch, I would say that's a pretty good season. I had 5+ airing anime that I thoroughly enjoyed last season. Well, I haven't watched a single show last season. There are a couple on my ptw but after watching first episodes I doubt any would be more than "just ok" for me. I have also noticed that the general quality of shows might have dropped. Often when they adapt an older show again it feels lacking compared to the old adaption. Kino no Tabi comes to my mind. It wasn't a bad adaption per se but it was so much worse than the original one. I have watched the new episode of LoGH and it was good but it also felt lacking compared to the original. Not really sure what's putting me off exactly yet but the way the MCs are designed and animated is definitely one of the reasons. And the CGI as well. And before that argument is used again, I don't think it's nostalgia. I have only started watching anime as a hobby a few years ago so I have watched a lot of those older shows fairly recent. Just out of curiosity, I went through MAL+ and looked at the time frame 2015-2017 (so last 3 years). I have rated a single show a straight 9/10 (Uchouten s2) which I would consider an absolute gem. That's pretty rough. There are a handful of 8/10s (4, not counting movies) which I would consider gems with reservations. Overall rating of the three seasons (movies included because I'm lazy): 2015=4,5/10; 2016=4,59/10, 2017=5.81. Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 02:10 BigFan wrote:
Yes, for me, this season has been pretty decent enough. Overlord, Takagi-san, Gakuen Babysitters, that silly trashy shogi anime, black clover, dbs and 3-gatsu (continuations but w/e) etc... Even if you ignore the continuations and that silly trashy shogi anime, that's 3 anime I looked forward too. With the rest, 7 anime which imo is pretty decent overall . My scoring has changed a lot over the years too so I don't bother comparing anime scores from 2 years ago to now, especially since I don't have one genre that I like. Rather, I watch a lot of different types of anime. Do I think anime quality has gone down? Tbh, I have no clue. Maybe there was a slight decrease? Without making a list of the anime that aired in order to compare, I wouldn't be able to tell you. In the end, all that matters is that I've been finding several new anime a season to watch which is great. As for remakes, I think earlier anime always had a charm to them that remakes can never replicate.
Well, that's my problem. I don't really find those shows every season, let alone several of them. I notice that every time I have a general down phase with anime where I'm not really motivated to watch shows. That's when the wheat separates from the chaff because I tend to not continue shows even though I kind of enjoyed them. For example Garo and Magus' Bride. I haven't watched any episodes of those in 2018. I don't think they are bad shows at all but they are just not THAT good that they can keep me compelled through a motivational down phase. And yeah, if I look at the last season, every single show looks worse from the premise than the two shows mentioned.
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