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Raimu-senpai, I am disappoint. You caught up to the others after being lapped twice, but you didn't win. Oh, sure, handicapped in a scooter, but you know you could've taken them all down easily.
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
May 17 2016 02:24 GMT
#112461
+ Show Spoiler + Raimu-senpai, I am disappoint. You caught up to the others after being lapped twice, but you didn't win. Oh, sure, handicapped in a scooter, but you know you could've taken them all down easily. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
May 17 2016 04:29 GMT
#112462
On May 17 2016 03:50 Unleashing wrote: Might be because you were able to marathon through it tbh, this current arc has kind of killed my weekly hype. Not too excited for each chapter compared to what i was during the previous arcs. The most recent chapters especially disappointed me, such a cop-out solution. but you could see the copout coming though There is no way he could win, but having him join would also be a total disaster for the story. In fact speculating and concluding he had no where to go but for the copout was interesting enough in itself, for a bit anyway. But its kept me interested enough. Its a bit fillirish in that sense but atleast it wasnt a totally forced situation + they get to re-emphasize how far he has yet to get. But yeah there isnt much impact in showing us what he has in the last few chapters. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
May 17 2016 05:12 GMT
#112463
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Spazer
Canada8033 Posts
May 17 2016 06:03 GMT
#112464
On May 17 2016 13:29 Rebs wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2016 03:50 Unleashing wrote: Might be because you were able to marathon through it tbh, this current arc has kind of killed my weekly hype. Not too excited for each chapter compared to what i was during the previous arcs. The most recent chapters especially disappointed me, such a cop-out solution. but you could see the copout coming though There is no way he could win, but having him join would also be a total disaster for the story. In fact speculating and concluding he had no where to go but for the copout was interesting enough in itself, for a bit anyway. But its kept me interested enough. Its a bit fillirish in that sense but atleast it wasnt a totally forced situation + they get to re-emphasize how far he has yet to get. But yeah there isnt much impact in showing us what he has in the last few chapters. The manga wants to have high stakes to make things exciting, but they do it in the dumbest ways. Any drastic consequence like SOUMA GETS EXPELLED is obviously not going to happen, which makes it really difficult to care about what's going on. The excitement should be generated by things like the rivalries involved or the potential for growth. This is the stuff that made the autumn festival finals and the stagiaire arc good. This is also why I think that Azami has been the stupidest addition to the series. All he's really done is add artificial story-ending consequences to the plot. + Show Spoiler + Honestly, I don't think having Souma join Cental would be that disastrous of an outcome. In fact, it would've opened the door for a lot of potential development. It'd be a good excuse for Souma to grow, seeing as he'd be learning from the best of the best. He could even do the whole "question his style" thing which is always a popular development arc. The elite 10 get more interactions with Souma, which would do wonders for avoiding one-off antagonists syndrome. Hell, you could even arrange stuff like Souma vs Megumi, which would otherwise never happen in the context of the story. | ||
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ChaoSbringer
Australia1382 Posts
May 17 2016 08:46 GMT
#112465
On May 17 2016 15:03 Spazer wrote: I mean, Souma is a High School story. Cooking High School, but High School nonetheless. Author fucked up the pacing of the story by introducing what should've been the End of Year 2 - Start/Mid Year 3 story (Azami taking over the school, changing everything up. Souma & Friends battling against and winning Elite 10 seats to vote Azami out & save the school) at the end of Year 1. Show nested quote + On May 17 2016 13:29 Rebs wrote: On May 17 2016 03:50 Unleashing wrote: Might be because you were able to marathon through it tbh, this current arc has kind of killed my weekly hype. Not too excited for each chapter compared to what i was during the previous arcs. The most recent chapters especially disappointed me, such a cop-out solution. but you could see the copout coming though There is no way he could win, but having him join would also be a total disaster for the story. In fact speculating and concluding he had no where to go but for the copout was interesting enough in itself, for a bit anyway. But its kept me interested enough. Its a bit fillirish in that sense but atleast it wasnt a totally forced situation + they get to re-emphasize how far he has yet to get. But yeah there isnt much impact in showing us what he has in the last few chapters. The manga wants to have high stakes to make things exciting, but they do it in the dumbest ways. Any drastic consequence like SOUMA GETS EXPELLED is obviously not going to happen, which makes it really difficult to care about what's going on. The excitement should be generated by things like the rivalries involved or the potential for growth. This is the stuff that made the autumn festival finals and the stagiaire arc good. This is also why I think that Azami has been the stupidest addition to the series. All he's really done is add artificial story-ending consequences to the plot. + Show Spoiler + Honestly, I don't think having Souma join Cental would be that disastrous of an outcome. In fact, it would've opened the door for a lot of potential development. It'd be a good excuse for Souma to grow, seeing as he'd be learning from the best of the best. He could even do the whole "question his style" thing which is always a popular development arc. The elite 10 get more interactions with Souma, which would do wonders for avoiding one-off antagonists syndrome. Hell, you could even arrange stuff like Souma vs Megumi, which would otherwise never happen in the context of the story. I think it would've been nice if this was happening End Yr 2 to Mid Yr 3, they vanquish Azami, YAY, but then they get no rest as they move into into the final half of Yr 3, where the culling & competition steps into overdrive so that only the best chefs actually graduate. The conflict would be about more emotional or hot blooded competition where there are forced Shokugeki's where there are Polar Star v Polar Star team kills resulting in explusion etc. Basically it feels like Azami should be the end game, but he showed up really early like he's actually the mid boss, so we're left wondering 'is this going to be a really really long protracted fight' or 'whats going to top the seriousness of Azami/Central for the later story arcs'. | ||
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IceHism
United States1903 Posts
May 17 2016 12:33 GMT
#112466
Rezero + Show Spoiler + Okay, so it looks like rem has been killing Subaru in the 2nd loop because of the smell of the witch of envy or satella. Rem uses a chain weapon while ram uses magic. My guess is that satella and Subaru's ability is directly connected because the smell gets stronger after each death and only rem and Betty can tell. So now Subaru has to convince rem that despite the scent, she can trust him while finding out who casted the curse. My suspicion is still on the dog because it seems it kills a little past midnight but I don't know if Rem has to get bit if Subaru doesn't go to the village. Ram and rem held his hand in the first loop. Cute. I'm interested in finding out more about the witch's cult since rem reacted so strongly to them. Its also nice to see Subaru losing his sanity after each loop. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
May 17 2016 12:58 GMT
#112467
On May 17 2016 15:03 Spazer wrote: + Show Spoiler + Honestly, I don't think having Souma join Cental would be that disastrous of an outcome. In fact, it would've opened the door for a lot of potential development. It'd be a good excuse for Souma to grow, seeing as he'd be learning from the best of the best. He could even do the whole "question his style" thing which is always a popular development arc. The elite 10 get more interactions with Souma, which would do wonders for avoiding one-off antagonists syndrome. Hell, you could even arrange stuff like Souma vs Megumi, which would otherwise never happen in the context of the story. + Show Spoiler + I thought about that, it would indeed bring about alot of interesting situations. But it could get really messy and would involve alot of complicated story telling that I dont think he is capable of pulling off. Lets put it this way, it would be too ambitious imo and turn into a trainwreck. But yeah I agree there is no excitement no more. On May 17 2016 21:33 IceHism wrote: + Show Spoiler + Stagaire arc was amazing. Its unfortunate we can never have something like that until azami arc is over. I also don't think souma joining central would end the story. He could learn a lot and question the way he does things. In the end, he is too souma to be controlled by central anyways Thats the logic they used for the copout. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 17 2016 13:22 GMT
#112468
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IceHism
United States1903 Posts
May 17 2016 18:01 GMT
#112469
On May 17 2016 21:58 Rebs wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2016 15:03 Spazer wrote: + Show Spoiler + Honestly, I don't think having Souma join Cental would be that disastrous of an outcome. In fact, it would've opened the door for a lot of potential development. It'd be a good excuse for Souma to grow, seeing as he'd be learning from the best of the best. He could even do the whole "question his style" thing which is always a popular development arc. The elite 10 get more interactions with Souma, which would do wonders for avoiding one-off antagonists syndrome. Hell, you could even arrange stuff like Souma vs Megumi, which would otherwise never happen in the context of the story. + Show Spoiler + I thought about that, it would indeed bring about alot of interesting situations. But it could get really messy and would involve alot of complicated story telling that I dont think he is capable of pulling off. Lets put it this way, it would be too ambitious imo and turn into a trainwreck. But yeah I agree there is no excitement no more. Show nested quote + On May 17 2016 21:33 IceHism wrote: + Show Spoiler + Stagaire arc was amazing. Its unfortunate we can never have something like that until azami arc is over. I also don't think souma joining central would end the story. He could learn a lot and question the way he does things. In the end, he is too souma to be controlled by central anyways Thats the logic they used for the copout. Nah, I'm convinced that the logic of the copout was that + Show Spoiler + it wasn't an official shokugeki. If you took this part out, he could still join central. He just wouldn't really be controllable in the brainwash sense. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
May 17 2016 18:07 GMT
#112470
my only problem with Rezero is that MC dude, like, everything reset everytime you die (this is done to death by so many movies/novels, included where the love one go amnesia etc), so get a grip stop crying ffs, the wonderful moments happened before every reset doesnt count at all so stop being weird. If i was rem/ram i would think MC dude is crazy and that won't help him to solve the case. Another thing is that he apparently can't tell the truth because he would feel really unwell when he tries to? i bet he will be able to do say out the truths at some dramatic moment | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
May 17 2016 18:38 GMT
#112471
On May 18 2016 03:01 IceHism wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2016 21:58 Rebs wrote: On May 17 2016 15:03 Spazer wrote: + Show Spoiler + Honestly, I don't think having Souma join Cental would be that disastrous of an outcome. In fact, it would've opened the door for a lot of potential development. It'd be a good excuse for Souma to grow, seeing as he'd be learning from the best of the best. He could even do the whole "question his style" thing which is always a popular development arc. The elite 10 get more interactions with Souma, which would do wonders for avoiding one-off antagonists syndrome. Hell, you could even arrange stuff like Souma vs Megumi, which would otherwise never happen in the context of the story. + Show Spoiler + I thought about that, it would indeed bring about alot of interesting situations. But it could get really messy and would involve alot of complicated story telling that I dont think he is capable of pulling off. Lets put it this way, it would be too ambitious imo and turn into a trainwreck. But yeah I agree there is no excitement no more. On May 17 2016 21:33 IceHism wrote: + Show Spoiler + Stagaire arc was amazing. Its unfortunate we can never have something like that until azami arc is over. I also don't think souma joining central would end the story. He could learn a lot and question the way he does things. In the end, he is too souma to be controlled by central anyways Thats the logic they used for the copout. Nah, I'm convinced that the logic of the copout was that + Show Spoiler + it wasn't an official shokugeki. If you took this part out, he could still join central. He just wouldn't really be controllable in the brainwash sense. + Show Spoiler + Well he Tsukasa said both things himself. You really think that in this sort of situation just because he couldnt hold him accountable "officially" that if he had called in the claim Souma would be like.. NAAAA not official im not joining. Obviously not. He had to have a reason beside that aswell and the loose cannon aspect was what they came up with. The official/non official thing dont fly on its own. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
May 17 2016 18:45 GMT
#112472
On May 18 2016 03:07 BurningSera wrote: + Show Spoiler [ReZero] + my only problem with Rezero is that MC dude, like, everything reset everytime you die (this is done to death by so many movies/novels, included where the love one go amnesia etc), so get a grip stop crying ffs, the wonderful moments happened before every reset doesnt count at all so stop being weird. If i was rem/ram i would think MC dude is crazy and that won't help him to solve the case. Another thing is that he apparently can't tell the truth because he would feel really unwell when he tries to? i bet he will be able to do say out the truths at some dramatic moment I'd spoiler this just in case... I almost complained about the Shokugeki no Souma stuff here, but I chose to just not read it. >.< + Show Spoiler [ReZero] + What is so hard to undertand about the fact that he still remembers the painful experience of dying when he wakes up? Like, you'd surely get crazy if you lose your limbs and suddenly wake up as if nothing happened while still knowing what happened. And in his mind everything happened because it did. It's not so simple to forget things that you experienced, even more so for horrible things of course. So if you think those movies did it better you can feel free to think so, but I personally think the anime is doing it correctly. Hell, he should be really fucked up soon if he keeps on dying. As for why he can't tell anyone... idk it looked like fear, but who knows if it has to do with the Witch who probably summoned him to the world. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
May 17 2016 19:12 GMT
#112473
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ChaoSbringer
Australia1382 Posts
May 17 2016 19:30 GMT
#112474
+ Show Spoiler + I don't know. The end of the last ep. had Subaru basically deciding that he's fallen in love(?) with Rem + Ram alongside already liking Emilia and he decided that he's going to save-scum so that he can develop a friendship with them. This is even after knowing for a fact that Rem brutally & remorselessly murdered him twice, of her own volition and that Ram was like 'ok gotta murder him because i reckon he killed Rem' even though Beatrice literally said he was with her the entire night. That is some next level retarded decision making from Subaru. I can't fathom (other than that he's basically gone insane from the stress dying repeatedly) why he wouldn't just cut his losses. If he dies stupidly next time (theres like a 90% he will) for me, it'll feel like a mark against the plot. I also think he acts like a spaz when he verbally talks about previous-loop stuff to other characters. I get its a sort of 'thinking aloud so the viewer knows whats going on' technique, but in-universe it makes him look deranged as fuck. re: Not being able to tell others about the loop: The way it was presented made it unclear whether or not it was a part of the ReZero curse, or whether it was his own psychology. I'm inclined to believe that its the curse, and that if he hadn't stopped then he would've had a heart attack or something. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
May 17 2016 19:35 GMT
#112475
On May 18 2016 04:30 ChaoSbringer wrote: ReZero + Show Spoiler + I don't know. The end of the last ep. had Subaru basically deciding that he's fallen in love(?) with Rem + Ram alongside already liking Emilia and he decided that he's going to save-scum so that he can develop a friendship with them. This is even after knowing for a fact that Rem brutally & remorselessly murdered him twice, of her own volition and that Ram was like 'ok gotta murder him because i reckon he killed Rem' even though Beatrice literally said he was with her the entire night. That is some next level retarded decision making from Subaru. I can't fathom (other than that he's basically gone insane from the stress dying repeatedly) why he wouldn't just cut his losses. If he dies stupidly next time (theres like a 90% he will) for me, it'll feel like a mark against the plot. I also think he acts like a spaz when he verbally talks about previous-loop stuff to other characters. I get its a sort of 'thinking aloud so the viewer knows whats going on' technique, but in-universe it makes him look deranged as fuck. re: Not being able to tell others about the loop: The way it was presented made it unclear whether or not it was a part of the ReZero curse, or whether it was his own psychology. I'm inclined to believe that its the curse, and that if he hadn't stopped then he would've had a heart attack or something. There's more types of love than just romantic love. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
May 17 2016 19:38 GMT
#112476
On May 18 2016 04:35 Unleashing wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2016 04:30 ChaoSbringer wrote: ReZero + Show Spoiler + I don't know. The end of the last ep. had Subaru basically deciding that he's fallen in love(?) with Rem + Ram alongside already liking Emilia and he decided that he's going to save-scum so that he can develop a friendship with them. This is even after knowing for a fact that Rem brutally & remorselessly murdered him twice, of her own volition and that Ram was like 'ok gotta murder him because i reckon he killed Rem' even though Beatrice literally said he was with her the entire night. That is some next level retarded decision making from Subaru. I can't fathom (other than that he's basically gone insane from the stress dying repeatedly) why he wouldn't just cut his losses. If he dies stupidly next time (theres like a 90% he will) for me, it'll feel like a mark against the plot. I also think he acts like a spaz when he verbally talks about previous-loop stuff to other characters. I get its a sort of 'thinking aloud so the viewer knows whats going on' technique, but in-universe it makes him look deranged as fuck. re: Not being able to tell others about the loop: The way it was presented made it unclear whether or not it was a part of the ReZero curse, or whether it was his own psychology. I'm inclined to believe that its the curse, and that if he hadn't stopped then he would've had a heart attack or something. There's more types of love than just romantic love. Exactly, and people said the "correct" translation would've been like a lot instead of love, but whatever. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
May 17 2016 19:56 GMT
#112477
would have an easy time separating out the various feelings and experiences he had. You also have to realize that its not like the sisters had 0 reasons to do what they did. He gets that his position basically stacks the deck against him in Rem/Ram's minds to make him appear like an enemy. As he comes to know more about why things are happening he comes to this realization. The witch obviously did something very terrible to the sisters and he reeks of her (and Beatrice makes it sound like the stink implies he has the witch's favor). I think he was really touched by the fact that the sisters have these underlying distrust and dislike of him but even then they still held his hands when he was asleep and having a nightmare. He understands that at a fundamental level they aren't evil or his enemies but circumstances of him not having the information is causing the rift. That and now he knows that the curse wasn't done by the sisters and is actually targeting the people in the mansion. As for him not being able to talk about the loop, the visuals during that scene heavily implied that there was a mechanism preventing him from talking about it via paralyzing fear. | ||
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ChaoSbringer
Australia1382 Posts
May 17 2016 19:56 GMT
#112478
they've brutally murdered you at least twice & expressed a pathological hatred of you (because the ReZero curse makes Subaru smells like the Witch Satella or whatever). Remember that Rem killed him even after they had that 'event' when they went shopping & walked back through the forest. I feel like Subaru needs to get a hint. I'm all for being friends with Emilia, Puck & maybe Beatrice, but he really should drop the maids. Unless he's decided that because he isn't permanently affected by death he doesn't care if they kill him. | ||
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Miragee
8626 Posts
May 17 2016 20:14 GMT
#112479
Also started watching Re ero after several recommendations here and irl. Watched the double episode and ep2. It's ok so far, although I don't really like any of the characters. Nothing too edgy yet, either. Icehism, Kiznaiver takes the edge-cake so far. ![]() | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
May 17 2016 20:20 GMT
#112480
+ Show Spoiler + I think it's because he's been with them for so long (several loops) and really enjoys their company. Personally, I think it would've been easier if he just left the mansion altogether at the start of the loop. That way, he is less likely to be killed but he just enjoys the whole atmosphere. Think of it from his perspective. He's in some country by himself and these people are the closest to being his friends. If he cuts ties with the maids, he'll have to cut ties with everyone else inadvertently. | ||
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