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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 31 2015 08:51 GMT
#99341
On May 31 2015 17:42 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2015 17:28 Unleashing wrote:
On May 31 2015 13:27 Slaughter wrote:
On May 31 2015 13:07 Toadesstern wrote:
On May 31 2015 12:38 Slaughter wrote:
On May 31 2015 11:44 Toadesstern wrote:
On May 31 2015 11:25 Slaughter wrote:
On May 31 2015 11:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On May 31 2015 10:44 Slaughter wrote:
No you were right to be confused there, they did a poor job of it. I don't contest that the arc was a mess from the standpoint of pacing and how much information they actually gave you. I mostly was referring to how I don't understand that the failed adaptation of a characters arc turns the character itself into a joke.


Because it's literally everything I know about her


Sure if you ignore the previous two seasons.

but that was her hiding everything there is to her so that we don't understand her because she didn't want people to know about it. The entire point of her has always been "you don't actually know anything about her and this is just a facade" for the first two seasons. We knew there was something about her but not what. And now for the first time you actually see her true self and it made no sense whatsoever to me.

She had something going for her that way, not my thing but it was decent enough. It just wasn't herself, but I never called her a joke up to that point because you simply didn't know what's about her.

Very much like Hanekawa actually and how Eca calls everyone who calls himself a Hanekawa-fan without having read season3 books yet an idiot.


? She wasn't hiding everything about herself, she was basically just hiding and denying her heritage and father. They even addressed it in S2 when she showed her fallen angel wings to Issei. Its not like her personality was a lie, you just didn't see the full picture and her vulnerable side.

Yes, we've known her personality but not the reasoning behind it. To me, if the explanation WHY she ended up with that personality and how she got there is that much of a joke, that, by extension, makes her personality a joke. WHATEVER it might have been, so I really couldn't care less about what I thought about her before that arc.


Her past doesn't explain how she is. Her personality in S1 and 2 were her regardless of her past, she just opened up more to him as things went on and showed her vulnerable side (which is affected by her past).


Man Knights of Sidonia teasing me so much.

I'm gonna have to agree somewhat with toad here. While i think it's a bit of a stretch to call it a joke, i feel with the way the anime ended up handling her issues it might've been better for the story and her character to just skip it entirely. It felt far too rushed and far too sudden, suddenly her father is there and she's super troubled about it and then she's fine. Obviously they can't just skip it and ishibumi said on his blog the BDs would supposedly contain some of the things that were skipped/rushed through, so there's always that i suppose.

The main problem for me is that the LNs were building up that arc from volume 4 to volume 7 and we learned more about Akenko gradually until the date + the + Show Spoiler +
battle against loki where chichigami arrives because Issei 'saved' akeno's breasts


Volume 5 and 7 got shafted for them to adapt volume 6 somewhat properly it seems, which kind of blows because outside of JD it's a very meh volume and volume 5 was far more interesting.

In general this season is just a disappointment honestly. I didn't so much mind JD not being as primal/savage even though i would've loved to see it but in the end it still disappointed me, especially with the oppai dragon song being cut

On the bright side maybe this season will have more Ravel after the rating game as promised


I agree with your and Toad's points on that, but that wasn't what I was arguing ;p

What did you think of the JD design? I thought it had its good and bad points personally.

I thought the design was overall fine honestly, but the fight was just underwhelming compared to the novel where shalba was torn to literal pieces and eaten by issei.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 31 2015 08:56 GMT
#99342
On May 31 2015 17:51 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2015 17:42 Slaughter wrote:
On May 31 2015 17:28 Unleashing wrote:
On May 31 2015 13:27 Slaughter wrote:
On May 31 2015 13:07 Toadesstern wrote:
On May 31 2015 12:38 Slaughter wrote:
On May 31 2015 11:44 Toadesstern wrote:
On May 31 2015 11:25 Slaughter wrote:
On May 31 2015 11:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On May 31 2015 10:44 Slaughter wrote:
No you were right to be confused there, they did a poor job of it. I don't contest that the arc was a mess from the standpoint of pacing and how much information they actually gave you. I mostly was referring to how I don't understand that the failed adaptation of a characters arc turns the character itself into a joke.


Because it's literally everything I know about her


Sure if you ignore the previous two seasons.

but that was her hiding everything there is to her so that we don't understand her because she didn't want people to know about it. The entire point of her has always been "you don't actually know anything about her and this is just a facade" for the first two seasons. We knew there was something about her but not what. And now for the first time you actually see her true self and it made no sense whatsoever to me.

She had something going for her that way, not my thing but it was decent enough. It just wasn't herself, but I never called her a joke up to that point because you simply didn't know what's about her.

Very much like Hanekawa actually and how Eca calls everyone who calls himself a Hanekawa-fan without having read season3 books yet an idiot.


? She wasn't hiding everything about herself, she was basically just hiding and denying her heritage and father. They even addressed it in S2 when she showed her fallen angel wings to Issei. Its not like her personality was a lie, you just didn't see the full picture and her vulnerable side.

Yes, we've known her personality but not the reasoning behind it. To me, if the explanation WHY she ended up with that personality and how she got there is that much of a joke, that, by extension, makes her personality a joke. WHATEVER it might have been, so I really couldn't care less about what I thought about her before that arc.


Her past doesn't explain how she is. Her personality in S1 and 2 were her regardless of her past, she just opened up more to him as things went on and showed her vulnerable side (which is affected by her past).


Man Knights of Sidonia teasing me so much.

I'm gonna have to agree somewhat with toad here. While i think it's a bit of a stretch to call it a joke, i feel with the way the anime ended up handling her issues it might've been better for the story and her character to just skip it entirely. It felt far too rushed and far too sudden, suddenly her father is there and she's super troubled about it and then she's fine. Obviously they can't just skip it and ishibumi said on his blog the BDs would supposedly contain some of the things that were skipped/rushed through, so there's always that i suppose.

The main problem for me is that the LNs were building up that arc from volume 4 to volume 7 and we learned more about Akenko gradually until the date + the + Show Spoiler +
battle against loki where chichigami arrives because Issei 'saved' akeno's breasts


Volume 5 and 7 got shafted for them to adapt volume 6 somewhat properly it seems, which kind of blows because outside of JD it's a very meh volume and volume 5 was far more interesting.

In general this season is just a disappointment honestly. I didn't so much mind JD not being as primal/savage even though i would've loved to see it but in the end it still disappointed me, especially with the oppai dragon song being cut

On the bright side maybe this season will have more Ravel after the rating game as promised


I agree with your and Toad's points on that, but that wasn't what I was arguing ;p

What did you think of the JD design? I thought it had its good and bad points personally.

I thought the design was overall fine honestly, but the fight was just underwhelming compared to the novel where shalba was torn to literal pieces and eaten by issei.


My main gripes were adding in an elongated neck like a dragon and also the size. From the LN it gives the impression he didn't really grow in size nor have his neck like that. It gave his appearance an awkwardness similar to Old man Tannin being more humanoid then you would expect.
Never Knows Best.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
May 31 2015 09:40 GMT
#99343
Danmachi full ED is out. Its so happy go-lucky, I really like it. Reminds me a lot of Fairy Tail EDs. =D
Skol
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 20:42:12
May 31 2015 11:09 GMT
#99344
+ Show Spoiler [UBW] +
So this wasn't clear for me, but could archer actually defeat Shirou?

He was almost at his limit with his mana and apparently shirou improves exponentially with each hit they trade. It did seem like Archer held back on the last strike but even if he stabbed him right there, as shown in Fate/zero (my only exposure to fate before ubw) Avalon can heal some pretty outragous stuff.
Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 20:42:41
May 31 2015 12:04 GMT
#99345
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 31 2015 20:09 AsnSensation wrote:
So this wasn't clear for me, but could archer actually defeat Shirou?

He was almost at his limit with his mana and apparently shirou improves exponentially with each hit they trade. It did seem like Archer held back on the last strike but even if he stabbed him right there, as shown in Fate/zero (my only exposure to fate before ubw) Avalon can heal some pretty outragous stuff.


I think if Archer went all out from the beginning he would easily defeat Shirou before Shirou would even have a chance to improve enough to face him. As explained earlier by others the battle seemed to be a battle of ideals and not skills. Archer held back because he wanted his ideals to defeat Shirou's but in the end he conceded to Shirou's ideals thus lost the battle.

As for DxD I think a lost was lost in the animation for pacing reasons so the LN's are probably a lot better for the serious parts. Though I took some of the serious stuff seriously, many of such moments were rushed and some felt forced so I couldn't help but laugh. In the end the series is very comedy focused so I don't think it really matters if people do or don't take anything shown it serious anyways.
The keyboard is mightier than the pen.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
May 31 2015 16:22 GMT
#99346
Can you guys spoiler your shit? It's getting tiring.
Writer
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 17:22:35
May 31 2015 17:11 GMT
#99347
Agreed Souma!

Arslan Senki was enjoyable today. + Show Spoiler +
We got to see the Mask guy without his mask, even though his face doesn't tell me anything. He seemed pretty strong, I'm kinda sure that Daryun will take him down at some point considering Arslan himself doesn't seem to turn into a fighter lol. Though aside from that not much happened, the little knight meeting Arslan again was pretty uneventful too.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 31 2015 17:34 GMT
#99348
arslan + Show Spoiler +
zuko is that you?
:)
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8692 Posts
May 31 2015 18:40 GMT
#99349
Kekkai Sensen:

+ Show Spoiler +
Someone read the manga and can tell me if the whole Black/White story with the demon is anime original? I thought I read somewhere that Leonardo x White is anime original since White isn't even a thing in the manga?

Anyways, I enjoy the development of a little story added to th episodic character. However, I feel like Kekkai Sensen runs into the same dead end as Death Parade: The development of the story starts too late and it feels a little rushed towards the end because there are only so many episodes left.

I have to say, I loved the random fake special attacks in this episode. :D
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 20:41:16
May 31 2015 20:16 GMT
#99350
On May 31 2015 20:09 AsnSensation wrote:
So this wasn't clear for me, but could archer actually defeat Shirou?

He was almost at his limit with his mana and apparently shirou improves exponentially with each hit they trade. It did seem like Archer held back on the last strike but even if he stabbed him right there, as shown in Fate/zero (my only exposure to fate before ubw) Avalon can heal some pretty outragous stuff.


+ Show Spoiler [UBW] +
Archer lets him win; Shirou never stood a chance. The fight was about Archer beating down Shirou to get him to give up on his ideals, but Shirou showed him even if he knows he'll lose, he'll continue to fight for them.

If Archer tried, he could have killed him pretty easily. Shirou was basically supposed to be dead on his feet and just flailing about, knowing he couldn't win but refusing to give up.

The animated fight didn't do a great job at showing this. The reality marble turning bright at the end was a good indication that Shirou convinced Archer not to give up on the ideals he originally had though.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 31 2015 20:41 GMT
#99351
Hi plebs, plz remember to spoiler stuff, esp if it's about a current episode of a series from this season.

Tyvm~
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
May 31 2015 20:54 GMT
#99352
Woa just realised Arslan and LoGH are from the same author :o
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 21:07:16
May 31 2015 21:05 GMT
#99353
The anime is adapting a manga based on the original Arslan which is by LoGH author. The manga is illustrated by FMA woman. So I'm not sure how much has been changed between all the adapting going on.

+ Show Spoiler [Best Couple 2015] +
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Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
May 31 2015 22:50 GMT
#99354
Numy you do realize it will go straight back to hetero romance
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 22:51:58
May 31 2015 22:51 GMT
#99355
Damn, Claymore is getting even more exciting. + Show Spoiler +
An army of 27 vs the Claymores is ridiculous. They are going to get destroyed so badly T.T In before the anime ending involves Clare becoming an awakened being when they are down, crushing them all and then reverting back herself or just dying or Priscilla somehow dying for Raki etc... Either way, 20 episodes in and not letting me down so far! :D


On June 01 2015 07:50 Maxie wrote:
Numy you do realize it will go straight back to hetero romance

don't shatter his dream!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 22:58:54
May 31 2015 22:55 GMT
#99356
Yea obviously. The couple with the best romance always means they will never get together. They'd rather shove in some shit romance where they both just being "tsundere" towards each other while having worse chemistry and less fleshed out characterization. Kyoani loves changing source just to tease good stuff then completely butchering that for fun. That all doesn't stop one dreaming though. If we can't have hope then what's the point.

I'm 95% sure they will either just ignore the romance after this or both the guy and her will be awkward towards each other until the finale where she finally realizes her feelings that mirrors her realizing how much she enjoys the band instead of being so distant with everything. Either that or they don't get gold at the event which prompts her to realize how much she wanted it.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 23:03:16
May 31 2015 23:02 GMT
#99357
Its probably because real Yuri doesn't sell. Only Yuri subtext does for some weird reason. Or its probably because shows with real Yuri generally just suck. Sakura trick is only recent Yuri show that did decently.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 31 2015 23:06 GMT
#99358
Nah I think what someone said about Owari rings true in this. Authors just really suck at writing romance so the actual romance always blows but the hinted at romance works because there isn't another written down there for the author to fuck it up. That's why full Hetero/homo romance generally blow but hinted at yuri is good.

On a slightly different note that's why Owari Vampire side is more interesting and why Aldnoah Mars side was more interesting.
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
May 31 2015 23:07 GMT
#99359
Well, subtext is better anyway.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 31 2015 23:15 GMT
#99360
It's a lot easier to excuse bad romance when there isn't good subtext though.
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