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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 07 2015 15:24 GMT
#97721
That is a lot of manga! Well you can always start it the MDT and slowly grow it I guess.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 15:45:54
May 07 2015 15:31 GMT
#97722
Toad is a pleb who doesn't read manga/lns anyway

I always just figured ADT was the place for ln and manga discussion if it wasn't one of the few series that already has its own thread.

On May 08 2015 00:16 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:
He said he'd like a general thread for Manga. He obviously just prefers Manga over Novels in general, thus searching for the Manga version rather than the original. Nothing wrong with that, I'm the other way around and prefer LNs over Manga

Just ctrl-f "manga" in his post.


I briefly considered creating a consolidated MDT thread much like the ADT but decided against it seeing as there won't be enough real discussion and pretty much any good manga will eventually get a thread of its own.

most of my manga discussion happens here anyway, plus I wouldn't want a thread to be filled with goody's weird manga reports.

as for vortok, LoGH is a series that needs to be watched, I don't think there is any other way you could get enjoyment from it outside of actually getting your hands on the novels, as inconvenient as it may be for you.


Should we make a JWWW thread that only you, me, and 1 other person would post in? Lol
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Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
May 07 2015 15:37 GMT
#97723
On May 08 2015 00:16 BLinD-RawR wrote:
as for vortok, LoGH is a series that needs to be watched, I don't think there is any other way you could get enjoyment from it outside of actually getting your hands on the novels, as inconvenient as it may be for you.

Yes, it's looking that way. I don't mind watching an anime in the long run if it's a good series and other options are either not available, not particularly feasible, or significantly inferior versions. I originally started out with anime anyways.

Really just looking for interesting series. As anime/manga have a lot of overlap, I figured the anime thread should have a fair amount (beyond the recommendations linked at the top) of decent series, though it stands to reason focus would be on the series whose anime versions are of decent quality.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
May 07 2015 15:54 GMT
#97724
On May 07 2015 22:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 22:00 Numy wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:39 Unleashing wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:09 Vortok wrote:
I think I picked a really, really awkward time to glance into the anime thread due to lack of a general manga thread. I'll just say that I don't like fan service when it's too blatant and over the top.

After a quick google, I'll assume that LOGH = Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Arslan = The Heroic Legend of Arslan. Latter seems to have a manga but I'm having trouble finding the former, despite wiki saying there's a manga adaptation (tried searching parts of Ginga Eiyu densetsu as well, though didn't look particularly hard) . If you guys find them both interesting enough to bicker over, should at least be worth a read.

Beats sifting through yet another school life manga in hopes of finding areas that the mangaka did something new and interesting beyond the standard formula + series specific gimmick.

LOGH and Arslan are both originally novels, not manga.
Edit: just reading the first line of both wikis will basically tell you this, lol.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes (銀河英雄伝説 Ginga Eiyū Densetsu?), also known as LOTGH (銀英伝 Gin'eiden?), is a series of science fiction novels written by Yoshiki Tanaka.

The Heroic Legend of Arslan (Japanese: アルスラーン戦記 Hepburn: Arusurān Senki?) is a Japanese fantasy novel series.


The Arslan anime is actually an adaption of a manga that is an adaption of the novels I believe.


you are correct.


I mean, the whole reason Arslan is compared to LoGH is that they were written by same guy (and in asimilar style)
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 15:56:37
May 07 2015 15:55 GMT
#97725
On May 08 2015 00:37 Vortok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 00:16 BLinD-RawR wrote:
as for vortok, LoGH is a series that needs to be watched, I don't think there is any other way you could get enjoyment from it outside of actually getting your hands on the novels, as inconvenient as it may be for you.

Yes, it's looking that way. I don't mind watching an anime in the long run if it's a good series and other options are either not available, not particularly feasible, or significantly inferior versions. I originally started out with anime anyways.

Really just looking for interesting series. As anime/manga have a lot of overlap, I figured the anime thread should have a fair amount (beyond the recommendations linked at the top) of decent series, though it stands to reason focus would be on the series whose anime versions are of decent quality.


people here do ask for manga recommendations too, If you give me an idea of what you are looking for I can recommend something.
On May 08 2015 00:54 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 22:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 07 2015 22:00 Numy wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:39 Unleashing wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:09 Vortok wrote:
I think I picked a really, really awkward time to glance into the anime thread due to lack of a general manga thread. I'll just say that I don't like fan service when it's too blatant and over the top.

After a quick google, I'll assume that LOGH = Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Arslan = The Heroic Legend of Arslan. Latter seems to have a manga but I'm having trouble finding the former, despite wiki saying there's a manga adaptation (tried searching parts of Ginga Eiyu densetsu as well, though didn't look particularly hard) . If you guys find them both interesting enough to bicker over, should at least be worth a read.

Beats sifting through yet another school life manga in hopes of finding areas that the mangaka did something new and interesting beyond the standard formula + series specific gimmick.

LOGH and Arslan are both originally novels, not manga.
Edit: just reading the first line of both wikis will basically tell you this, lol.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes (銀河英雄伝説 Ginga Eiyū Densetsu?), also known as LOTGH (銀英伝 Gin'eiden?), is a series of science fiction novels written by Yoshiki Tanaka.

The Heroic Legend of Arslan (Japanese: アルスラーン戦記 Hepburn: Arusurān Senki?) is a Japanese fantasy novel series.


The Arslan anime is actually an adaption of a manga that is an adaption of the novels I believe.


you are correct.


I mean, the whole reason Arslan is compared to LoGH is that they were written by same guy (and in asimilar style)


pretty much
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 07 2015 16:01 GMT
#97726
On May 08 2015 00:54 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 22:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 07 2015 22:00 Numy wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:39 Unleashing wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:09 Vortok wrote:
I think I picked a really, really awkward time to glance into the anime thread due to lack of a general manga thread. I'll just say that I don't like fan service when it's too blatant and over the top.

After a quick google, I'll assume that LOGH = Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Arslan = The Heroic Legend of Arslan. Latter seems to have a manga but I'm having trouble finding the former, despite wiki saying there's a manga adaptation (tried searching parts of Ginga Eiyu densetsu as well, though didn't look particularly hard) . If you guys find them both interesting enough to bicker over, should at least be worth a read.

Beats sifting through yet another school life manga in hopes of finding areas that the mangaka did something new and interesting beyond the standard formula + series specific gimmick.

LOGH and Arslan are both originally novels, not manga.
Edit: just reading the first line of both wikis will basically tell you this, lol.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes (銀河英雄伝説 Ginga Eiyū Densetsu?), also known as LOTGH (銀英伝 Gin'eiden?), is a series of science fiction novels written by Yoshiki Tanaka.

The Heroic Legend of Arslan (Japanese: アルスラーン戦記 Hepburn: Arusurān Senki?) is a Japanese fantasy novel series.


The Arslan anime is actually an adaption of a manga that is an adaption of the novels I believe.


you are correct.


I mean, the whole reason Arslan is compared to LoGH is that they were written by same guy (and in asimilar style)


It's still important to know that it's adapting the manga and not the original source so it may not convey the story 100%.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 07 2015 16:01 GMT
#97727
On May 07 2015 23:53 Numy wrote:
I don't even know what I just read. How can you judge something you barely read. Also the original novel is going to be better than an adaption 99% of the time no matter how good the adaption if. It's extremely rare for an adaption to be better. I can only think of The Mist as an example of that happening. Read/Watch what you want but you shouldn't judge the original story based on an adaption.

I don't think is true. I think people are just biased against adaptations lol
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 07 2015 16:01 GMT
#97728
why cant i make this black into red?
i want to make it red then transulencetnt so i can trace over it
i tried hue -> colorise and literally nothing happens
i can do color replace -> it goes light grey only

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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 16:16:05
May 07 2015 16:02 GMT
#97729
On May 08 2015 00:31 Slaughter wrote:
Toad is a pleb who doesn't read manga/lns anyway

[...]

I take offense in that
But yeah, half of it correct. I don't really read manga except once in a month when I binge read some 30 chapters of a handful mangas I somewhat follow.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 16:05:19
May 07 2015 16:05 GMT
#97730
On May 08 2015 01:01 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 23:53 Numy wrote:
I don't even know what I just read. How can you judge something you barely read. Also the original novel is going to be better than an adaption 99% of the time no matter how good the adaption if. It's extremely rare for an adaption to be better. I can only think of The Mist as an example of that happening. Read/Watch what you want but you shouldn't judge the original story based on an adaption.

I don't think is true. I think people are just biased against adaptations lol


Why do you say that? Or do you perhaps have some examples of what you mean?
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 16:39:51
May 07 2015 16:38 GMT
#97731
There are many example of adaptation is better, like Scrapped Princess, Moe Pirates, and most of KyoAni moe stuff. I also feel that if you watch the adaptation first then read source later, you would enjoy the adaptation even when it deviates, but if you read source first then watch adaptation, more likely than not you'd think the difference is bad.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 16:49:19
May 07 2015 16:47 GMT
#97732
Hmm I still think they the exceptions rather than the rule as there are so so many adaptions out there. As for the latter in my experience that isn't the case from the LNs I've read but I haven't read that many. Only S&W/Mahouka/DxD/Horizon and Kizu(Shaft pls). Preferred the source in all of them as generally the adaptions cut out a lot of the character depth just to show more flash and inability to do inner thoughts as always. May have just been poor adaptions though.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 17:10:34
May 07 2015 17:09 GMT
#97733
Aren't most KyoAni 'adaptions' often full of anime original stuff?
Not that that's a bad thing, i should add. But if the good things are anime original then it's not so much a good adaption as just a good anime imho.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 07 2015 17:10 GMT
#97734
I agree with ragz. If I watch an anime and pick up the LNs afterwards because I liked the anime I usually don't think the anime is a shitty adoptation at all and I won't mind the changes. That's what it was like for me for Mahouka.
Yes the LNs where even more pants on head weird but I liked the anime and don't think the adaptation was bad at all.

If you read LNs first you obviously have to be hipster and hate on how the anime is different no matter what they do.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 17:19:52
May 07 2015 17:14 GMT
#97735
On May 08 2015 02:10 Toadesstern wrote:
If you read LNs first you obviously have to be hipster and hate on how the anime is different no matter what they do.

Shitty adaptions do exist you know. DxD season 3 right now is a fucking awful adaption.

I rarely get disappointed at adaptions unless they're legit awful or ruin what i enjoyed about a series to begin with.

Also if an adaptions begins to go full anime original then i can't really call it a good adaption anymore regardless of how good the anime original stuff might be on its own, it's no longer a good adaption of the source material.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 17:22:42
May 07 2015 17:22 GMT
#97736
I think it's possible we should separate adaptions that are attempting to "adapt" the material to a different medium to those that attempt to make a new entity while basing it on the source material. GoT on HBO is a good example of the latter where as something like Mahouka that we were talking about is an example of the former. That way one an adaption can still be good even if it doesn't really adapt the material properly because that wasn't the purpose of it.

Should we come up with a TLADT word for these? Like how Goody changed the definition of NTR!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
May 07 2015 17:28 GMT
#97737
I didn't think the Spice and Wolf adaptation was bad at all.
Never Knows Best.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 17:32:13
May 07 2015 17:29 GMT
#97738
On May 08 2015 02:14 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 02:10 Toadesstern wrote:
If you read LNs first you obviously have to be hipster and hate on how the anime is different no matter what they do.

Shitty adaptions do exist you know. DxD season 3 right now is a fucking awful adaption.

I rarely get disappointed at adaptions unless they're legit awful or ruin what i enjoyed about a series to begin with.

Also if an adaptions begins to go full anime original then i can't really call it a good adaption anymore regardless of how good the anime original stuff might be on its own, it's no longer a good adaption of the source material.

I know that they exist. I just think that people mostly exaggerate when it comes to that and make it sound like 99% of em are that shitty for the sake of "omg you dirty secondary, the source is so much better and I HAVE READ IT"

It is a different medium and will be different. I would expect a Manga version of something to focus on different stuff than let's say the LN version of it or the anime version of it. At the very least the three excel in different fields imo, even if there are good examples for every style in all 3 of them.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 07 2015 17:32 GMT
#97739
On May 08 2015 02:28 Slaughter wrote:
I didn't think the Spice and Wolf adaptation was bad at all.


Didn't mean to imply it was bad, I think it was pretty good i just prefer the LN. Holo doesn't quite have that "god presence" she does in the LN. Certain moments just are cuter and wreck me harder :<. I do think my enjoyment of the LN has been enhanced by watching the anime first though. Imagining Koshimizu, Ami say all the lines is a big bonus :D
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
May 07 2015 17:35 GMT
#97740
On May 08 2015 02:29 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 02:14 Unleashing wrote:
On May 08 2015 02:10 Toadesstern wrote:
If you read LNs first you obviously have to be hipster and hate on how the anime is different no matter what they do.

Shitty adaptions do exist you know. DxD season 3 right now is a fucking awful adaption.

I rarely get disappointed at adaptions unless they're legit awful or ruin what i enjoyed about a series to begin with.

Also if an adaptions begins to go full anime original then i can't really call it a good adaption anymore regardless of how good the anime original stuff might be on its own, it's no longer a good adaption of the source material.

I know that they exist. I just think that people mostly exaggerate when it comes to that and make it sound like 99% of em are that shitty for the sake of "omg you dirty secondary, the source is so much better and I HAVE READ IT"

It is a different medium and will be different. I would expect a Manga version of something to focus on different stuff than let's say the LN version of it or the anime version of it. At the very least the three excel in different fields imo, even if there are good examples for every style in all 3 of them.


But most of them are shitty, you gotta remember most LN adaptions are 1 cour shows with minimum budget made to advertise the source material with zero chance of getting a sequel. A lot are just padded out infomercials. Only a few ln shows get multiple seasons or cours
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