Anime Discussion Thread - Page 4888

On May 08 2015 02:35 IceHism wrote:


But most of them are shitty, you gotta remember most LN adaptions shows are 1 cour shows with minimum budget made to advertise the source material with zero chance of getting a sequel. A lot are just padded out infomercials. Only a few ln shows get multiple seasons or cours

On May 08 2015 02:10 Toadesstern wrote:
If you read LNs first you obviously have to be hipster and hate on how the anime is different no matter what they do.

On May 08 2015 02:42 andyrau wrote:

the method of storytelling in novels doesn't translate well in anime form, so most of the time the directors simply cut it out of their scripts.
regardless of whether you read the source before or after, you will always feel like you missed out on something in the animation when reviewing it retrospectively.

On May 08 2015 01:01 FFGenerations wrote:
why cant i make this black into red?
i want to make it red then transulencetnt so i can trace over it
i tried hue -> colorise and literally nothing happens
i can do color replace -> it goes light grey only

http://i.imgur.com/DJ04nQ8.jpg

On May 08 2015 03:07 HolydaKing wrote:

Exactly, many animes that are being "butchered" according to manga readers here are actually really enjoyable if you don't know the manga. For example, I somewhat liked the Toyko Ghoul anime.

On May 08 2015 02:48 Toadesstern wrote:

which is what I'm saying. Of course a 600 page book is going to be more detailed than an anime adaptation and why I said the 3 genres have all their strengths and weaknesses. I tend to think that Manga is equally bad in that regard except for very few exceptions and hence will focus on other things and not try to be a 1:1 adaptation with more pictures in there.

Hence saying, don't expect it to be 100% the same. The three things have all their strength and weaknesses and yes, stuff that's butchered exists. But just because it's focusing on different things, because they know they can't deliver the same kind of in depth storytelling in anime format doesn't mean it has to be bad.

On May 08 2015 03:36 Souma wrote:
People who read manga/LNs/VNs are doing it wrong.

They should just watch anime, like me, so they can enjoy it more.

On May 08 2015 03:40 andyrau wrote:

well that's kind of my point.
the source will always be better than the animation (or movie, if you want a wider application) as it's a more complete story. hence i don't think it's fair to say someone's being hipster for griping that the anime sucks because, well, it actually does suck in comparison.

obv it doesn't mean you can't enjoy both for what they are.

On May 08 2015 03:41 Maxie wrote:


Watch anime first, get interested, read source.

Going in that direction can be nice, going in the opposite often ends in disappointment.

On May 08 2015 04:05 Numy wrote:
Do you mean medium instead of genre? Doesn't really makes sense otherwise. Personally I often just get sad when an adaption could do it perfectly but intentionally choose not to. Well by sad I mean fucking furious. I love both mediums but I can't stand stories being butchered for no other reason than that's how they wanted it to be. Stop trying to fit every story into your little mold of 13 episodes ffs. Netfix save us

On May 08 2015 04:05 Numy wrote:
Anime at times just doesn't seem to be about producing a really good anime so much as it is about producing a passable anime that borrows heavily on some source material so you get interested in that material. Give me a well written, well animated, anime original over a passable adaption any day.

On May 08 2015 03:41 Maxie wrote:


Watch anime first, get interested, read source.

Going in that direction can be nice, going in the opposite often ends in disappointment.

On May 08 2015 04:00 Toadesstern wrote:

but that's ignoring the strongpoints animation has. No matter how good Monogatari novels are you don't get to listen to Chiwa Saitou while reading them. You don't get to see Shaft visuals.

If all you care about is story then yes, LNs are the way to go for you as they are way more detailed. And you probably shouldn't bother with anime because you don't dislike adaptations, you just dislike anime because it's that way for 99% of shows no matter of LN adaptation, manga adaptation or things that aren't adaptations at all. If you can appreciate anime for what it's better at than LNs then there's also that.

That's why hating on adaptation for the sake of it being an adaptation rather than the specific one being bad is stupid. It's not a matter of adaptation, it's a matter of genre. If you don't like the medium, duh.

On May 08 2015 04:11 NeoIllusions wrote:

I actually do the opposite. While disappointment is expected, I mostly go from source => animu only because I want more content and want to see my best girl animated.

Otherwise, I feel like I def get more enjoyment out of monologues, dialogues, plot development from the other sources that the anime tends to skip over due to various constraints.

On May 08 2015 04:34 andyrau wrote:

just me but i honestly couldn't give a shit about VAs. not understanding the language and its vocal nuances takes away from a lot of the appeal, but that's another discussion and not one that i really want to get into.

you mention differences in format but that's a massive strawman; you're twisting the discussion from whether an adaptation is worth watching to whether someone prefers a certain type of medium or not.

ignoring the fact that animations are a copy of the source doesn't work out because they are inherently truncated versions with pretty visuals (with great audio i guess), mashed together with a compromised plot.
fwiw I don't think the animations should be avoided because it's fun to see imaginations come to life, but my main point is, disliking the adaptation for what it is isn't really a negative reaction, nor should it be trivialized to 'being hipster' or whatever.
the reaction to adaptations i always find myself with is 'wow this is pretty good but it could have been so much more, if only.'