On December 23 2011 02:18 Requizen wrote:
Why do you watch anime?
Why do you watch anime?
if you knew german TV you would not ask T_T
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
December 22 2011 20:16 GMT
#34141
On December 23 2011 02:18 Requizen wrote: Why do you watch anime? if you knew german TV you would not ask T_T | ||
jtp118
United States137 Posts
December 22 2011 20:18 GMT
#34142
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Southlight
United States11761 Posts
December 22 2011 20:20 GMT
#34143
On December 23 2011 05:18 jtp118 wrote: thanks for all of the recommendations everyone, that's quite helpful. i didn't realize that there wasn't a settled 'canon' of the very best anime ... maybe there should be some sort of huge meta-TL poll to see points of convergence on everyone's top 10/top 20 lists Try doing that for movies and TV shows and books and you'll realize what you're trying to ask for. | ||
Emnjay808
United States10638 Posts
December 22 2011 20:25 GMT
#34144
On December 23 2011 05:20 Southlight wrote: Show nested quote + On December 23 2011 05:18 jtp118 wrote: thanks for all of the recommendations everyone, that's quite helpful. i didn't realize that there wasn't a settled 'canon' of the very best anime ... maybe there should be some sort of huge meta-TL poll to see points of convergence on everyone's top 10/top 20 lists Try doing that for movies and TV shows and books and you'll realize what you're trying to ask for. Hes asking for a bloodbath. And somehow I feel Sentenal will come out victorious... | ||
jtp118
United States137 Posts
December 22 2011 20:25 GMT
#34145
On December 23 2011 05:20 Southlight wrote: Show nested quote + On December 23 2011 05:18 jtp118 wrote: thanks for all of the recommendations everyone, that's quite helpful. i didn't realize that there wasn't a settled 'canon' of the very best anime ... maybe there should be some sort of huge meta-TL poll to see points of convergence on everyone's top 10/top 20 lists Try doing that for movies and TV shows and books and you'll realize what you're trying to ask for. That's the thing ... if you got together 100 people were passionate about TV shows, I would bet $1000 that their collective top 10 would include The Wire, The Sopranos, and Twin Peaks. Or with films, there would be slightly more variation, but you would always see The Godfather I/II, Citizen Kane, Casablanca, 2001, etc., somewhere near the top. | ||
Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
December 22 2011 20:28 GMT
#34146
On December 23 2011 05:09 Thratur wrote: The Toradora OVA was very nostalgic. + Show Spoiler + I can't believe he would bring a rice cooker in class. This part was so funny. I really liked the OVA. It was cute and everything. Made me feel all nice inside after I was done with it. + Show Spoiler + Taiga feeding Ryuuji is always really cute too. On December 23 2011 05:25 jtp118 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 23 2011 05:20 Southlight wrote: On December 23 2011 05:18 jtp118 wrote: thanks for all of the recommendations everyone, that's quite helpful. i didn't realize that there wasn't a settled 'canon' of the very best anime ... maybe there should be some sort of huge meta-TL poll to see points of convergence on everyone's top 10/top 20 lists Try doing that for movies and TV shows and books and you'll realize what you're trying to ask for. That's the thing ... if you got together 100 people were passionate about TV shows, I would bet $1000 that their collective top 10 would include The Wire, The Sopranos, and Twin Peaks. Or with films, there would be slightly more variation, but you would always see The Godfather I/II, Citizen Kane, Casablanca, 2001, etc., somewhere near the top. There would be basically no points of conversion, is what Southlight is saying. Frankly, I pretty much agree. Like...the only show that I've seen so far that no one has really called out for being "bad" is Welcome to the NHK, which is something EVERYONE in this thread said "yes" to when I asked should I watch it. Though to be fair, that was one of the last times I asked for recommendations from everyone. I turned to specific people afterwards. ![]() A lot of other shows have just been a flurry of "yes" "no" or "it's trash garbage" | ||
Southlight
United States11761 Posts
December 22 2011 20:29 GMT
#34147
You may get Jackie Chan stuff, Star Trek, Toy Story, Disney films, etc. In essence you'd get a giant list of shows and films internationally and across nearly a century. Obviously Japanese anime has a smaller list to choose from. | ||
EchOne
United States2906 Posts
December 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#34148
On December 23 2011 05:25 Emnjay808 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 23 2011 05:20 Southlight wrote: On December 23 2011 05:18 jtp118 wrote: thanks for all of the recommendations everyone, that's quite helpful. i didn't realize that there wasn't a settled 'canon' of the very best anime ... maybe there should be some sort of huge meta-TL poll to see points of convergence on everyone's top 10/top 20 lists Try doing that for movies and TV shows and books and you'll realize what you're trying to ask for. Hes asking for a bloodbath. And somehow I feel Sentenal will come out victorious... ![]() Anime is relatively young and specific compared to cinema or literature, but it *still* encompasses such a vast range of tastes that any sort of meta-ratings result would not really be helpful. All you can do is put arbitrary numbers to a show or shows that ultimately bear more on popularity than quality. Consider the metacritic toplist for games. Are those the best of all time, or even a result of the best way to find the best of all time? There's no definitive "yes." I recommend you read actual reviews and criticism to get a more colorful idea of what a specific show can offer if you're so concerned about what other people think about shows. A number from 1-10 isn't enough, not even when offered by each viewer. *But* if that's exactly what you're looking for, try something like this http://myanimelist.net/topanime.php Just be aware of the limitations. | ||
jtp118
United States137 Posts
December 22 2011 20:42 GMT
#34149
On December 23 2011 05:29 Southlight wrote: You may also get stuff like Buffy, Firefly, Friends, various asian Dramas, history channel stuff. You may get Jackie Chan stuff, Star Trek, Toy Story, Disney films, etc. In essence you'd get a giant list of shows and films internationally and across nearly a century. Obviously Japanese anime has a smaller list to choose from. But not if you were talking to people who actually knew TV or film, and weren't just casual viewers. I mean sure, my parents would probably say that NCIS is the greatest show ever, but you also wouldn't see them posting in a thread about TV shows ... | ||
jtp118
United States137 Posts
December 22 2011 20:43 GMT
#34150
On December 23 2011 05:39 EchOne wrote: Anime is relatively young and specific compared to cinema or literature, but it *still* encompasses such a vast range of tastes that any sort of meta-ratings result would not really be helpful. All you can do is put arbitrary numbers to a show or shows that ultimately bear more on popularity than quality. Consider the metacritic toplist for games. Are those the best of all time, or even a result of the best way to find the best of all time? There's no definitive "yes." I recommend you read actual reviews and criticism to get a more colorful idea of what a specific show can offer if you're so concerned about what other people think about shows. A number from 1-10 isn't enough, not even when offered by each viewer. *But* if that's exactly what you're looking for, try something like this http://myanimelist.net/topanime.php Just be aware of the limitations. fair enough | ||
Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
December 22 2011 20:45 GMT
#34151
On December 23 2011 05:42 jtp118 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 23 2011 05:29 Southlight wrote: You may also get stuff like Buffy, Firefly, Friends, various asian Dramas, history channel stuff. You may get Jackie Chan stuff, Star Trek, Toy Story, Disney films, etc. In essence you'd get a giant list of shows and films internationally and across nearly a century. Obviously Japanese anime has a smaller list to choose from. But not if you were talking to people who actually knew TV or film, and weren't just casual viewers. I mean sure, my parents would probably say that NCIS is the greatest show ever, but you also wouldn't see them posting in a thread about TV shows ... Yeah, but you're basically relying on "professional" critics of anime who watch it intellectually to try to rationalize what is or is not the best of animes. At that point it's just a matter of realizing that we all want to watch anime for fun and we deem animes as "best" or "worst" depending on our enjoyment, emotional reaction, etc. from said animes. Like, I could be here saying that an anime like Clannad was great, and then someone else next to me could've seen entirely differently, depending on a character that he didn't like, or something like that. | ||
Requizen
United States33802 Posts
December 22 2011 20:46 GMT
#34152
Speaking of which, I still haven't watched Gintama. But every description I read of it makes me think of generic shonen with wacky sci-fi universe. *By hipster anime I mean like, visit /a/. If more than 5 people have heard of an anime, it's shit. If it's a completely obscure anime, no matter how objectively bad, it's cool. | ||
Requizen
United States33802 Posts
December 22 2011 20:50 GMT
#34153
On December 23 2011 05:45 Zergneedsfood wrote: Show nested quote + On December 23 2011 05:42 jtp118 wrote: On December 23 2011 05:29 Southlight wrote: You may also get stuff like Buffy, Firefly, Friends, various asian Dramas, history channel stuff. You may get Jackie Chan stuff, Star Trek, Toy Story, Disney films, etc. In essence you'd get a giant list of shows and films internationally and across nearly a century. Obviously Japanese anime has a smaller list to choose from. But not if you were talking to people who actually knew TV or film, and weren't just casual viewers. I mean sure, my parents would probably say that NCIS is the greatest show ever, but you also wouldn't see them posting in a thread about TV shows ... Yeah, but you're basically relying on "professional" critics of anime who watch it intellectually to try to rationalize what is or is not the best of animes. At that point it's just a matter of realizing that we all want to watch anime for fun and we deem animes as "best" or "worst" depending on our enjoyment, emotional reaction, etc. from said animes. Like, I could be here saying that an anime like Clannad was great, and then someone else next to me could've seen entirely differently, depending on a character that he didn't like, or something like that. Honestly, I kind of loathe the day where someone describes themselves as a "professional anime critic". Like you said, it's not really like books or movies where you have to take each one seriously. Taking things like, say, most Gainax shows seriously is a bad idea. But they're usually very enjoyable. Same for a lot of gag shows like Shin-chan. Not that I like Shin-chan, but some people do, and if you try to critique it alongside something like Cowboy Bebop, it's not even the same realm of imagining. | ||
Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
December 22 2011 20:50 GMT
#34154
On December 23 2011 05:46 Requizen wrote: MAL is pretty good. A lot of people bash on it because it tends to stay away from "hipster anime"*, which I'm ok with. While it's not perfect, and it often just depends on the season or what DVDs got released recently, it's usually a good launching point. Speaking of which, I still haven't watched Gintama. But every description I read of it makes me think of generic shonen with wacky sci-fi universe. *By hipster anime I mean like, visit /a/. If more than 5 people have heard of an anime, it's shit. If it's a completely obscure anime, no matter how objectively bad, it's cool. I find it hard to believe that there's a single anime where less than 5 people would hear of anime. Of course this is an exaggeration, but I just find it amusing. On December 23 2011 05:50 Requizen wrote: Show nested quote + On December 23 2011 05:45 Zergneedsfood wrote: On December 23 2011 05:42 jtp118 wrote: On December 23 2011 05:29 Southlight wrote: You may also get stuff like Buffy, Firefly, Friends, various asian Dramas, history channel stuff. You may get Jackie Chan stuff, Star Trek, Toy Story, Disney films, etc. In essence you'd get a giant list of shows and films internationally and across nearly a century. Obviously Japanese anime has a smaller list to choose from. But not if you were talking to people who actually knew TV or film, and weren't just casual viewers. I mean sure, my parents would probably say that NCIS is the greatest show ever, but you also wouldn't see them posting in a thread about TV shows ... Yeah, but you're basically relying on "professional" critics of anime who watch it intellectually to try to rationalize what is or is not the best of animes. At that point it's just a matter of realizing that we all want to watch anime for fun and we deem animes as "best" or "worst" depending on our enjoyment, emotional reaction, etc. from said animes. Like, I could be here saying that an anime like Clannad was great, and then someone else next to me could've seen entirely differently, depending on a character that he didn't like, or something like that. Honestly, I kind of loathe the day where someone describes themselves as a "professional anime critic". Like you said, it's not really like books or movies where you have to take each one seriously. Taking things like, say, most Gainax shows seriously is a bad idea. But they're usually very enjoyable. Same for a lot of gag shows like Shin-chan. Not that I like Shin-chan, but some people do, and if you try to critique it alongside something like Cowboy Bebop, it's not even the same realm of imagining. I don't know what you're talking about. I watch anime intellectually. ![]() | ||
Southlight
United States11761 Posts
December 22 2011 20:55 GMT
#34155
On December 23 2011 05:50 Requizen wrote: Honestly, I kind of loathe the day where someone describes themselves as a "professional anime critic". Like you said, it's not really like books or movies where you have to take each one seriously. Taking things like, say, most Gainax shows seriously is a bad idea. But they're usually very enjoyable. Same for a lot of gag shows like Shin-chan. Not that I like Shin-chan, but some people do, and if you try to critique it alongside something like Cowboy Bebop, it's not even the same realm of imagining. ? I'm a professional anime critic. On September 22 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote: Code Geass was amazing. It matched some of the most intellectually sound people, had battlefield tactics that were so intricate and thought-out that it reminded me of a cross between Legend of Galactic Heroes and Death Note. None of the characters were teenage emos, as they all were mature, driven people with their own convictions, like Shakugan no Shana. So much deep philosophy about manhood, mankind, and war, it was almost like an Evangelion version of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. The story arc with Euphie was tragic, reminding me of Titus Andronicus, and was both touching and exciting, making me wish things had taken that turn much earlier. Alas, that's the only qualm I had with CG, which is that it delayed some of the best moments until too late into the season, forcing you to watch R2, which was a very Gundam-esque move. That was around when we should have realized that their lead writer was assassinated and replaced by Char Aznable. On September 22 2011 01:48 Southlight wrote: What is Death Note, people ask, and why is it so heralded? Think Iago versus King Claudius, only King Claudius happens to be the Hyde to Hamlet's Jekyll. Imagine a match of chess being played by the most nefarious, scheming villains in literary history... against each other, amidst a contemporary sociopolitical backdrop. The pieces include the media, the power of information, the very philosophical ideals each of these monsters hold dear, and even you, the dear reader (or watcher), as you are sucked into this dizzying tale of cunning. Trod through the muddy, bloodied waters of the hundreds and thousands of corpses left behind in this intellectual duel, and look on in Ooba Tsugumi's game of bloodlust, justice, and vengeance. On October 19 2011 03:45 Southlight wrote: What you didn't know... is that Ben-to is symbolic of the poverty-stricken countries. It takes place in a modern first-world setting to juxtapose "a world in which food is plentiful" with the grotesque side of man in which food is a life-or-death commodity, one in which people are more than willing to resort to violence to get. One in which connections, gender, and other such "civilized" social hierarchies don't matter. The main character is like a Peace Corps member who's been sent to China and wants to woo the love of his life with food, but because of his weak, mental and physical state from being pampered by a first-world society, cannot, and must train to become a real man before his courtship can continue. Will he succeed? Will he become all that he can be? | ||
0123456789
United States3216 Posts
December 22 2011 20:57 GMT
#34156
On December 23 2011 05:55 Southlight wrote: Show nested quote + On December 23 2011 05:50 Requizen wrote: Honestly, I kind of loathe the day where someone describes themselves as a "professional anime critic". Like you said, it's not really like books or movies where you have to take each one seriously. Taking things like, say, most Gainax shows seriously is a bad idea. But they're usually very enjoyable. Same for a lot of gag shows like Shin-chan. Not that I like Shin-chan, but some people do, and if you try to critique it alongside something like Cowboy Bebop, it's not even the same realm of imagining. ? I'm a professional anime critic. Show nested quote + On September 22 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote: Code Geass was amazing. It matched some of the most intellectually sound people, had battlefield tactics that were so intricate and thought-out that it reminded me of a cross between Legend of Galactic Heroes and Death Note. None of the characters were teenage emos, as they all were mature, driven people with their own convictions, like Shakugan no Shana. So much deep philosophy about manhood, mankind, and war, it was almost like an Evangelion version of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. The story arc with Euphie was tragic, reminding me of Titus Andronicus, and was both touching and exciting, making me wish things had taken that turn much earlier. Alas, that's the only qualm I had with CG, which is that it delayed some of the best moments until too late into the season, forcing you to watch R2, which was a very Gundam-esque move. That was around when we should have realized that their lead writer was assassinated and replaced by Char Aznable. Show nested quote + On September 22 2011 01:48 Southlight wrote: What is Death Note, people ask, and why is it so heralded? Think Iago versus King Claudius, only King Claudius happens to be the Hyde to Hamlet's Jekyll. Imagine a match of chess being played by the most nefarious, scheming villains in literary history... against each other, amidst a contemporary sociopolitical backdrop. The pieces include the media, the power of information, the very philosophical ideals each of these monsters hold dear, and even you, the dear reader (or watcher), as you are sucked into this dizzying tale of cunning. Trod through the muddy, bloodied waters of the hundreds and thousands of corpses left behind in this intellectual duel, and look on in Ooba Tsugumi's game of bloodlust, justice, and vengeance. Show nested quote + On October 19 2011 03:45 Southlight wrote: What you didn't know... is that Ben-to is symbolic of the poverty-stricken countries. It takes place in a modern first-world setting to juxtapose "a world in which food is plentiful" with the grotesque side of man in which food is a life-or-death commodity, one in which people are more than willing to resort to violence to get. One in which connections, gender, and other such "civilized" social hierarchies don't matter. The main character is like a Peace Corps member who's been sent to China and wants to woo the love of his life with food, but because of his weak, mental and physical state from being pampered by a first-world society, cannot, and must train to become a real man before his courtship can continue. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iPFK5T_G3U Will he succeed? Will he become all that he can be? The average anime viewer is 12. What does this all mean? ^_^ | ||
Southlight
United States11761 Posts
December 22 2011 20:58 GMT
#34157
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
December 22 2011 21:01 GMT
#34158
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#34159
On December 23 2011 05:57 0123456789 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 23 2011 05:55 Southlight wrote: On December 23 2011 05:50 Requizen wrote: Honestly, I kind of loathe the day where someone describes themselves as a "professional anime critic". Like you said, it's not really like books or movies where you have to take each one seriously. Taking things like, say, most Gainax shows seriously is a bad idea. But they're usually very enjoyable. Same for a lot of gag shows like Shin-chan. Not that I like Shin-chan, but some people do, and if you try to critique it alongside something like Cowboy Bebop, it's not even the same realm of imagining. ? I'm a professional anime critic. On September 22 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote: Code Geass was amazing. It matched some of the most intellectually sound people, had battlefield tactics that were so intricate and thought-out that it reminded me of a cross between Legend of Galactic Heroes and Death Note. None of the characters were teenage emos, as they all were mature, driven people with their own convictions, like Shakugan no Shana. So much deep philosophy about manhood, mankind, and war, it was almost like an Evangelion version of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. The story arc with Euphie was tragic, reminding me of Titus Andronicus, and was both touching and exciting, making me wish things had taken that turn much earlier. Alas, that's the only qualm I had with CG, which is that it delayed some of the best moments until too late into the season, forcing you to watch R2, which was a very Gundam-esque move. That was around when we should have realized that their lead writer was assassinated and replaced by Char Aznable. On September 22 2011 01:48 Southlight wrote: What is Death Note, people ask, and why is it so heralded? Think Iago versus King Claudius, only King Claudius happens to be the Hyde to Hamlet's Jekyll. Imagine a match of chess being played by the most nefarious, scheming villains in literary history... against each other, amidst a contemporary sociopolitical backdrop. The pieces include the media, the power of information, the very philosophical ideals each of these monsters hold dear, and even you, the dear reader (or watcher), as you are sucked into this dizzying tale of cunning. Trod through the muddy, bloodied waters of the hundreds and thousands of corpses left behind in this intellectual duel, and look on in Ooba Tsugumi's game of bloodlust, justice, and vengeance. On October 19 2011 03:45 Southlight wrote: What you didn't know... is that Ben-to is symbolic of the poverty-stricken countries. It takes place in a modern first-world setting to juxtapose "a world in which food is plentiful" with the grotesque side of man in which food is a life-or-death commodity, one in which people are more than willing to resort to violence to get. One in which connections, gender, and other such "civilized" social hierarchies don't matter. The main character is like a Peace Corps member who's been sent to China and wants to woo the love of his life with food, but because of his weak, mental and physical state from being pampered by a first-world society, cannot, and must train to become a real man before his courtship can continue. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iPFK5T_G3U Will he succeed? Will he become all that he can be? The average anime viewer is 12. What does this all mean? ^_^ It means that 15 years on they still havent caught them all. | ||
Blasterion
China10272 Posts
December 22 2011 21:20 GMT
#34160
On December 23 2011 05:55 Southlight wrote: Show nested quote + On December 23 2011 05:50 Requizen wrote: Honestly, I kind of loathe the day where someone describes themselves as a "professional anime critic". Like you said, it's not really like books or movies where you have to take each one seriously. Taking things like, say, most Gainax shows seriously is a bad idea. But they're usually very enjoyable. Same for a lot of gag shows like Shin-chan. Not that I like Shin-chan, but some people do, and if you try to critique it alongside something like Cowboy Bebop, it's not even the same realm of imagining. ? I'm a professional anime critic. Show nested quote + On September 22 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote: Code Geass was amazing. It matched some of the most intellectually sound people, had battlefield tactics that were so intricate and thought-out that it reminded me of a cross between Legend of Galactic Heroes and Death Note. None of the characters were teenage emos, as they all were mature, driven people with their own convictions, like Shakugan no Shana. So much deep philosophy about manhood, mankind, and war, it was almost like an Evangelion version of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. The story arc with Euphie was tragic, reminding me of Titus Andronicus, and was both touching and exciting, making me wish things had taken that turn much earlier. Alas, that's the only qualm I had with CG, which is that it delayed some of the best moments until too late into the season, forcing you to watch R2, which was a very Gundam-esque move. That was around when we should have realized that their lead writer was assassinated and replaced by Char Aznable. Show nested quote + On September 22 2011 01:48 Southlight wrote: What is Death Note, people ask, and why is it so heralded? Think Iago versus King Claudius, only King Claudius happens to be the Hyde to Hamlet's Jekyll. Imagine a match of chess being played by the most nefarious, scheming villains in literary history... against each other, amidst a contemporary sociopolitical backdrop. The pieces include the media, the power of information, the very philosophical ideals each of these monsters hold dear, and even you, the dear reader (or watcher), as you are sucked into this dizzying tale of cunning. Trod through the muddy, bloodied waters of the hundreds and thousands of corpses left behind in this intellectual duel, and look on in Ooba Tsugumi's game of bloodlust, justice, and vengeance. Show nested quote + On October 19 2011 03:45 Southlight wrote: What you didn't know... is that Ben-to is symbolic of the poverty-stricken countries. It takes place in a modern first-world setting to juxtapose "a world in which food is plentiful" with the grotesque side of man in which food is a life-or-death commodity, one in which people are more than willing to resort to violence to get. One in which connections, gender, and other such "civilized" social hierarchies don't matter. The main character is like a Peace Corps member who's been sent to China and wants to woo the love of his life with food, but because of his weak, mental and physical state from being pampered by a first-world society, cannot, and must train to become a real man before his courtship can continue. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iPFK5T_G3U Will he succeed? Will he become all that he can be? No, that just makes you a intellectual anime watcher | ||
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