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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 23:03:42
December 22 2011 23:02 GMT
#34181
while I dont like the idea of a professional critic in general, I would however give a critic enough credit to be able to base his ratings on things that are not connected to things like "do I like this genre or not" or "if everyone likes it it has to be good" thus elimenating the chance of people stumbling across Cardcaptor Sakura and making them think every anime has to be like that.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
December 22 2011 23:05 GMT
#34182
Mashiro iro Symphony Finale
+ Show Spoiler +
Miu end. I am so sad, WHY NO AIRI!!!! RAGE! RAGE! RAAAAAAGGE!
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 22 2011 23:06 GMT
#34183
On December 23 2011 08:01 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 07:51 Requizen wrote:
On December 23 2011 05:50 Requizen wrote:
On December 23 2011 05:45 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On December 23 2011 05:42 jtp118 wrote:
On December 23 2011 05:29 Southlight wrote:
You may also get stuff like Buffy, Firefly, Friends, various asian Dramas, history channel stuff.
You may get Jackie Chan stuff, Star Trek, Toy Story, Disney films, etc.

In essence you'd get a giant list of shows and films internationally and across nearly a century.

Obviously Japanese anime has a smaller list to choose from.



But not if you were talking to people who actually knew TV or film, and weren't just casual viewers. I mean sure, my parents would probably say that NCIS is the greatest show ever, but you also wouldn't see them posting in a thread about TV shows ...




Yeah, but you're basically relying on "professional" critics of anime who watch it intellectually to try to rationalize what is or is not the best of animes.

At that point it's just a matter of realizing that we all want to watch anime for fun and we deem animes as "best" or "worst" depending on our enjoyment, emotional reaction, etc. from said animes.

Like, I could be here saying that an anime like Clannad was great, and then someone else next to me could've seen entirely differently, depending on a character that he didn't like, or something like that.

Honestly, I kind of loathe the day where someone describes themselves as a "professional anime critic". Like you said, it's not really like books or movies where you have to take each one seriously. Taking things like, say, most Gainax shows seriously is a bad idea. But they're usually very enjoyable. Same for a lot of gag shows like Shin-chan. Not that I like Shin-chan, but some people do, and if you try to critique it alongside something like Cowboy Bebop, it's not even the same realm of imagining.

I think I might take this post back. Nothing wrong with a professional anime critic, but I fear that it's just another thing that can be badly done to make anime not as acceptable in the eyes of the public. Like, I'm afraid of the day where we have a professional anime critic review Cardcaptor Sakura or something like it and rate it highly (because apparently it's widely liked, I haven't watched it since I was a kid), and then a new person sees it, and gets turned off by calling a magical girl show good.

It's similar to gaming, and how there used to be (and still is, as it goes) a stigma about them all being violence like GTA.

I dunno, I'm not the kind of person who hides the fact that I like anime, but I don't wave my love of it around because of the stigma. I don't want it to be a "secret club" or whatever, but I also get tired of people comparing every anime to Sailor Moon and DBZ, when things like Trigun or Samurai Champloo exist in their amazingness.

And then you get really good but really weird shows like the Gainax series or Soul Eater. You can't really recommend them to someone who's not a fan, because some of the parts of them might be a turn off.

Arg. Just frustrating to me.

Except Cardcaptor Sakura and Sailor Moon are pretty iconic magical girl shows that sort of define the genre. DBZ is hugely iconic as well, especially in the West.

Well yeah, I agree, but I can't stand it when I say I'm watching anime or try to recommend someone and people are like "Oh yeah, I used to watch DBZ (or whatever) as a kid, why are you still watching kid's shows?". Yes, these people are closed minded and what not, but still. It's headache inducing.

It's like if the first movie that people think of when film is brought up was Snow White or something, or the Disney Channel was the stereotype of American TV.

When anime actually has rather deep stories and interesting characters, I hate that the stigma is that they're children's shows or something like that.

But now I'm just venting. I'll stop :\
It's your boy Guzma!
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 22 2011 23:11 GMT
#34184
On December 23 2011 08:05 Blasterion wrote:
Mashiro iro Symphony Finale
+ Show Spoiler +
Miu end. I am so sad, WHY NO AIRI!!!! RAGE! RAGE! RAAAAAAGGE!


+ Show Spoiler +
I was half expecting Miu to kill everyone at the end. Her eyes were just like....crazed at all these points. I was all ready for it too.


On December 23 2011 08:06 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 08:01 Sentenal wrote:
On December 23 2011 07:51 Requizen wrote:
On December 23 2011 05:50 Requizen wrote:
On December 23 2011 05:45 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On December 23 2011 05:42 jtp118 wrote:
On December 23 2011 05:29 Southlight wrote:
You may also get stuff like Buffy, Firefly, Friends, various asian Dramas, history channel stuff.
You may get Jackie Chan stuff, Star Trek, Toy Story, Disney films, etc.

In essence you'd get a giant list of shows and films internationally and across nearly a century.

Obviously Japanese anime has a smaller list to choose from.



But not if you were talking to people who actually knew TV or film, and weren't just casual viewers. I mean sure, my parents would probably say that NCIS is the greatest show ever, but you also wouldn't see them posting in a thread about TV shows ...




Yeah, but you're basically relying on "professional" critics of anime who watch it intellectually to try to rationalize what is or is not the best of animes.

At that point it's just a matter of realizing that we all want to watch anime for fun and we deem animes as "best" or "worst" depending on our enjoyment, emotional reaction, etc. from said animes.

Like, I could be here saying that an anime like Clannad was great, and then someone else next to me could've seen entirely differently, depending on a character that he didn't like, or something like that.

Honestly, I kind of loathe the day where someone describes themselves as a "professional anime critic". Like you said, it's not really like books or movies where you have to take each one seriously. Taking things like, say, most Gainax shows seriously is a bad idea. But they're usually very enjoyable. Same for a lot of gag shows like Shin-chan. Not that I like Shin-chan, but some people do, and if you try to critique it alongside something like Cowboy Bebop, it's not even the same realm of imagining.

I think I might take this post back. Nothing wrong with a professional anime critic, but I fear that it's just another thing that can be badly done to make anime not as acceptable in the eyes of the public. Like, I'm afraid of the day where we have a professional anime critic review Cardcaptor Sakura or something like it and rate it highly (because apparently it's widely liked, I haven't watched it since I was a kid), and then a new person sees it, and gets turned off by calling a magical girl show good.

It's similar to gaming, and how there used to be (and still is, as it goes) a stigma about them all being violence like GTA.

I dunno, I'm not the kind of person who hides the fact that I like anime, but I don't wave my love of it around because of the stigma. I don't want it to be a "secret club" or whatever, but I also get tired of people comparing every anime to Sailor Moon and DBZ, when things like Trigun or Samurai Champloo exist in their amazingness.

And then you get really good but really weird shows like the Gainax series or Soul Eater. You can't really recommend them to someone who's not a fan, because some of the parts of them might be a turn off.

Arg. Just frustrating to me.

Except Cardcaptor Sakura and Sailor Moon are pretty iconic magical girl shows that sort of define the genre. DBZ is hugely iconic as well, especially in the West.

Well yeah, I agree, but I can't stand it when I say I'm watching anime or try to recommend someone and people are like "Oh yeah, I used to watch DBZ (or whatever) as a kid, why are you still watching kid's shows?". Yes, these people are closed minded and what not, but still. It's headache inducing.

It's like if the first movie that people think of when film is brought up was Snow White or something, or the Disney Channel was the stereotype of American TV.

When anime actually has rather deep stories and interesting characters, I hate that the stigma is that they're children's shows or something like that.

But now I'm just venting. I'll stop :\


I think the stigma isn't that their children shows but more than they're over the top....

Like if you think about mainstream anime shows that a lot of people watch (Naruto for example), those tend to just be really crazy and get really over the top (kind of like Bleach too), which just makes people think that all anime are just shounen no-brain shows.

Which is actually something I had thought for the longest time.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 22 2011 23:46 GMT
#34185
Guilty Crown was REALLY good this week. I am impress. Now I hear its going on a 3 week break or some shit. Is that true? If so, I'm mad. I'll probably be mad until Gundam SEED HD Remaster airs and gets subbed and then I forget all about my rage.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
December 22 2011 23:53 GMT
#34186
On December 23 2011 08:46 Sentenal wrote:
Guilty Crown was REALLY good this week. I am impress. Now I hear its going on a 3 week break or some shit. Is that true? If so, I'm mad. I'll probably be mad until Gundam SEED HD Remaster airs and gets subbed and then I forget all about my rage.


Better get ready to rage for a day or two. I'm really interested in how much will change in the HD remaster and will watch because of my disappointment in Gundam AGE's first 2 or so episodes. Speaking of Gundam Age... how is it now? I might give it another shot if the later parts are better/interesting.
Liquipedia
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 22 2011 23:56 GMT
#34187
On December 23 2011 08:46 Sentenal wrote:
Guilty Crown was REALLY good this week. I am impress. Now I hear its going on a 3 week break or some shit. Is that true? If so, I'm mad. I'll probably be mad until Gundam SEED HD Remaster airs and gets subbed and then I forget all about my rage.


+ Show Spoiler +
That's what I felt too. Shu getting more manly was probably one of the things I liked the most. Him using all of his friends and using all of those voids was pretty cool too.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 22 2011 23:56 GMT
#34188
On December 23 2011 08:53 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 08:46 Sentenal wrote:
Guilty Crown was REALLY good this week. I am impress. Now I hear its going on a 3 week break or some shit. Is that true? If so, I'm mad. I'll probably be mad until Gundam SEED HD Remaster airs and gets subbed and then I forget all about my rage.


Better get ready to rage for a day or two. I'm really interested in how much will change in the HD remaster and will watch because of my disappointment in Gundam AGE's first 2 or so episodes. Speaking of Gundam Age... how is it now? I might give it another shot if the later parts are better/interesting.

Age is... more or less the same. Kinda generic/average on every level. Nothing good, nothing bad. I'm thinking it will get alot more interesting come Generation 2.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 00:18:32
December 23 2011 00:15 GMT
#34189
On December 23 2011 08:46 Sentenal wrote:
Guilty Crown was REALLY good this week. I am impress. Now I hear its going on a 3 week break or some shit. Is that true? If so, I'm mad. I'll probably be mad until Gundam SEED HD Remaster airs and gets subbed and then I forget all about my rage.


If Sentenal praises anything, especially if its an anime that you enjoy yourself, you can bet your ass its gonna be good.

Gonna be saving this ep till the end of the day ^_^
Skol
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 00:20:27
December 23 2011 00:20 GMT
#34190
On December 23 2011 08:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 08:05 Blasterion wrote:
Mashiro iro Symphony Finale
+ Show Spoiler +
Miu end. I am so sad, WHY NO AIRI!!!! RAGE! RAGE! RAAAAAAGGE!


+ Show Spoiler +
I was half expecting Miu to kill everyone at the end. Her eyes were just like....crazed at all these points. I was all ready for it too.


Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 08:06 Requizen wrote:
On December 23 2011 08:01 Sentenal wrote:
On December 23 2011 07:51 Requizen wrote:
On December 23 2011 05:50 Requizen wrote:
On December 23 2011 05:45 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On December 23 2011 05:42 jtp118 wrote:
On December 23 2011 05:29 Southlight wrote:
You may also get stuff like Buffy, Firefly, Friends, various asian Dramas, history channel stuff.
You may get Jackie Chan stuff, Star Trek, Toy Story, Disney films, etc.

In essence you'd get a giant list of shows and films internationally and across nearly a century.

Obviously Japanese anime has a smaller list to choose from.



But not if you were talking to people who actually knew TV or film, and weren't just casual viewers. I mean sure, my parents would probably say that NCIS is the greatest show ever, but you also wouldn't see them posting in a thread about TV shows ...




Yeah, but you're basically relying on "professional" critics of anime who watch it intellectually to try to rationalize what is or is not the best of animes.

At that point it's just a matter of realizing that we all want to watch anime for fun and we deem animes as "best" or "worst" depending on our enjoyment, emotional reaction, etc. from said animes.

Like, I could be here saying that an anime like Clannad was great, and then someone else next to me could've seen entirely differently, depending on a character that he didn't like, or something like that.

Honestly, I kind of loathe the day where someone describes themselves as a "professional anime critic". Like you said, it's not really like books or movies where you have to take each one seriously. Taking things like, say, most Gainax shows seriously is a bad idea. But they're usually very enjoyable. Same for a lot of gag shows like Shin-chan. Not that I like Shin-chan, but some people do, and if you try to critique it alongside something like Cowboy Bebop, it's not even the same realm of imagining.

I think I might take this post back. Nothing wrong with a professional anime critic, but I fear that it's just another thing that can be badly done to make anime not as acceptable in the eyes of the public. Like, I'm afraid of the day where we have a professional anime critic review Cardcaptor Sakura or something like it and rate it highly (because apparently it's widely liked, I haven't watched it since I was a kid), and then a new person sees it, and gets turned off by calling a magical girl show good.

It's similar to gaming, and how there used to be (and still is, as it goes) a stigma about them all being violence like GTA.

I dunno, I'm not the kind of person who hides the fact that I like anime, but I don't wave my love of it around because of the stigma. I don't want it to be a "secret club" or whatever, but I also get tired of people comparing every anime to Sailor Moon and DBZ, when things like Trigun or Samurai Champloo exist in their amazingness.

And then you get really good but really weird shows like the Gainax series or Soul Eater. You can't really recommend them to someone who's not a fan, because some of the parts of them might be a turn off.

Arg. Just frustrating to me.

Except Cardcaptor Sakura and Sailor Moon are pretty iconic magical girl shows that sort of define the genre. DBZ is hugely iconic as well, especially in the West.

Well yeah, I agree, but I can't stand it when I say I'm watching anime or try to recommend someone and people are like "Oh yeah, I used to watch DBZ (or whatever) as a kid, why are you still watching kid's shows?". Yes, these people are closed minded and what not, but still. It's headache inducing.

It's like if the first movie that people think of when film is brought up was Snow White or something, or the Disney Channel was the stereotype of American TV.

When anime actually has rather deep stories and interesting characters, I hate that the stigma is that they're children's shows or something like that.

But now I'm just venting. I'll stop :\


I think the stigma isn't that their children shows but more than they're over the top....

Like if you think about mainstream anime shows that a lot of people watch (Naruto for example), those tend to just be really crazy and get really over the top (kind of like Bleach too), which just makes people think that all anime are just shounen no-brain shows.

Which is actually something I had thought for the longest time.


Actually now its more evolved, alot of people (aside from the obvious hentai jokes) often tend to associate anime with animated japanese school girls and in general the ecchi madness that's stormed in the past few years. And to be fair just like someone said about there being alot bad VN's theres alottt of bad anime, sure alot of it isnt meant to be taken seriously but its still bad, you can find entertainment in bad shows ofcourse, I do. Still its a pretty self inflicted stigma.


Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
December 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#34191
On December 23 2011 05:28 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 05:09 Thratur wrote:
The Toradora OVA was very nostalgic. + Show Spoiler +
I can't believe he would bring a rice cooker in class. This part was so funny.


I really liked the OVA. It was cute and everything. Made me feel all nice inside after I was done with it.

+ Show Spoiler +
Taiga feeding Ryuuji is always really cute too.

That OVA was definitely very nostalgic. Reminded me exactly why I loved all the characters in it. + Show Spoiler +
Couldn't stop laughing when Ryuuji brought his water heater and then rice cooker to class. That and how everyone in the class instantly knows it was him that brought it.

Minorin was awesome with all her antics, and seeing her sleep in class again with eyes drawn over her eyes. Super cute in that waitress uniform too!
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
December 23 2011 01:07 GMT
#34192
On December 23 2011 08:05 Blasterion wrote:
Mashiro iro Symphony Finale
+ Show Spoiler +
Miu end. I am so sad, WHY NO AIRI!!!! RAGE! RAGE! RAAAAAAGGE!

+ Show Spoiler +
lol did you really hope for a random Airi end to occur in last episode? But this anime does make me rage for its inconsistency and poor execution. random cat drama and then some school merger issues that get mentioned, Airi gives speech, then it gets dropped lol. Actually, I was sort of wondering if Airi was going to be like "I was against the merger, but then I found true love!" I do think Miu is really cute but...gahhh Airi route was going so well.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 23 2011 01:11 GMT
#34193
On December 23 2011 10:07 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 08:05 Blasterion wrote:
Mashiro iro Symphony Finale
+ Show Spoiler +
Miu end. I am so sad, WHY NO AIRI!!!! RAGE! RAGE! RAAAAAAGGE!

+ Show Spoiler +
lol did you really hope for a random Airi end to occur in last episode? But this anime does make me rage for its inconsistency and poor execution. random cat drama and then some school merger issues that get mentioned, Airi gives speech, then it gets dropped lol. Actually, I was sort of wondering if Airi was going to be like "I was against the merger, but then I found true love!" I do think Miu is really cute but...gahhh Airi route was going so well.


+ Show Spoiler +
Airi was like the focus for so long. It sucks that she did get undercut now that I think back on it.... :/ She actually was the best girl too, and her tsundere qualities weren't even that pronounced and annoying after a while.


Also, kaze. Thanks for posting. If you hadn't, I would've forgotten your KawaiiRice signature lol.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
December 23 2011 01:39 GMT
#34194
+ Show Spoiler [GC] +
Why did the American guy have to die!?? >.<
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
December 23 2011 01:47 GMT
#34195
On December 23 2011 10:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:07 KazeHydra wrote:
On December 23 2011 08:05 Blasterion wrote:
Mashiro iro Symphony Finale
+ Show Spoiler +
Miu end. I am so sad, WHY NO AIRI!!!! RAGE! RAGE! RAAAAAAGGE!

+ Show Spoiler +
lol did you really hope for a random Airi end to occur in last episode? But this anime does make me rage for its inconsistency and poor execution. random cat drama and then some school merger issues that get mentioned, Airi gives speech, then it gets dropped lol. Actually, I was sort of wondering if Airi was going to be like "I was against the merger, but then I found true love!" I do think Miu is really cute but...gahhh Airi route was going so well.


+ Show Spoiler +
Airi was like the focus for so long. It sucks that she did get undercut now that I think back on it.... :/ She actually was the best girl too, and her tsundere qualities weren't even that pronounced and annoying after a while.


Also, kaze. Thanks for posting. If you hadn't, I would've forgotten your KawaiiRice signature lol.

+ Show Spoiler +
yeah she was on her way to becoming a pretty decent quality tsundere =/

whew that would have been a disaster! Hope you have a safe trip home so my KawaiiRice signature stays safe
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
December 23 2011 01:57 GMT
#34196
On December 23 2011 08:46 Sentenal wrote:
Guilty Crown was REALLY good this week. I am impress. Now I hear its going on a 3 week break or some shit. Is that true? If so, I'm mad. I'll probably be mad until Gundam SEED HD Remaster airs and gets subbed and then I forget all about my rage.


I read it was 12 EP season some where and other places 24. What is the truth. TELL ME THE TRUTH
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
December 23 2011 01:58 GMT
#34197
Airi is still the best.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 23 2011 02:02 GMT
#34198
On December 23 2011 10:57 tonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 08:46 Sentenal wrote:
Guilty Crown was REALLY good this week. I am impress. Now I hear its going on a 3 week break or some shit. Is that true? If so, I'm mad. I'll probably be mad until Gundam SEED HD Remaster airs and gets subbed and then I forget all about my rage.


I read it was 12 EP season some where and other places 24. What is the truth. TELL ME THE TRUTH


I'm pretty sure it's 22.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 02:05:11
December 23 2011 02:04 GMT
#34199
On December 23 2011 11:02 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:57 tonight wrote:
On December 23 2011 08:46 Sentenal wrote:
Guilty Crown was REALLY good this week. I am impress. Now I hear its going on a 3 week break or some shit. Is that true? If so, I'm mad. I'll probably be mad until Gundam SEED HD Remaster airs and gets subbed and then I forget all about my rage.


I read it was 12 EP season some where and other places 24. What is the truth. TELL ME THE TRUTH


I'm pretty sure it's 22.


MAL says its 22. But there is gonna be a small break in the middle of full-season animes atm.

http://countdown.mandragon.info/
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December 23 2011 02:05 GMT
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On December 23 2011 10:58 tonight wrote:
Airi is still the best.

Yes Airi is absolutely the best!
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