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zeppelin
Profile Joined December 2007
United States565 Posts
September 02 2009 01:09 GMT
#241
On September 02 2009 09:54 Xxio wrote:
If First Contact was made a corporation (that manufactures weapons lol) would not be given control over the alien population. Driving their trucks and telling Aliens to be evicted and having their own army shooting them down. Oh and letting the aliens just live off garbage and get addicted to cat-food, not to mention having some random Algerian gang taking control of their ghetto.

Also, why the fuck would they keep them in the middle of Africa? I mean, are there no governments in this movie or what? And if it's way into the future when corporations control the world (which it in no way seems) they still wouldn't treat the aliens that way, it's just inefficient and counter productive on so many levels


first contact happened in 1982, if anything south africa was a great place for them - mutually agreeable for both major parties during the cold war

presumably it didnt take that long to realize that any useful research was going to be difficult and expensive to get - the whole world was watching south africa so they couldnt just execute the poor guys and no other country was going to take them, it's too expensive and too much of a hassle

MNU probably offered reduced-cost security for the opportunity to study them and their technology - maybe governments hadn't tried vivisection and other inhumane research that a shady company might be more willing to do (and for all we know some could have been secretly shipped out to government facilities for the same type of research - again, for a fee)

letting nigerian gangs control district 9 by keeping the aliens addicted to cat food was probably a better alternative to running the risk of the aliens having any sort of organized rioting and was probably much cheaper than keeping an organized police force to do the same thing

as for it being inefficient and counterproductive to treat the aliens poorly, all MNU needed from them was a few test subjects/eggs every now and again, and they were sufficiently marginalized that no one would give a shit or intervene if they treated them poorly - look at all the stories of alleged abuse committed by blackwater mercenaries in iraq

they probably felt the aliens were incapable of productive economic activity and so there was no benefit in trying to treat them well, just let the nigerians and border patrol keep them in order, control their population, and skim a few off the top/confiscate some weapons for research now and then
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
September 02 2009 01:10 GMT
#242

Did you not watch the damn movie at all?

They kept them in the middle of Africa because it was right below their mothership. This was blatantly obvious.

Governments hired this corporation to move the aliens (specifically the South African government) because they didn't want to do it themselves and have the "blood on their hands".

There were 1.8 million (or more) aliens in District 9. Are you seriously going to tell me that it's that easy to control them, keep them from living in slum-like conditions, and stopping crime from running rampant in a slum of 1.8 MILLION?

It's 30 years in the future. Like I said, the corporation was hired by the South African government and not too much changed from what it's like today (realistically, in 30 years we won't change that much).

The plot is perfectly believable, you obviously just didn't watch half the movie or it'd be blatantly obvious as to why.


Why does it matter whether they are under the mothership? at no point are the aliens like, "we want to stay under the mothership even though nothing has happened with it for 20 years". its not like they are being nice to them by doing it. they shoot 5 of them then are like, "what are you complaining about, we let you stay under the mothership and eat goat heads!"...another thing..where is the food? epic fail
Um yes, it would be easy to control them. If First Contact was made 1.8 aliens could easily be accommodated. governments would spend billions.
Have "blood on their hands" ?, why does there have to be blood in the first place? just don't be a dick about it and tell them your going to take away their children..

i'm done with this thread
KTY
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
September 02 2009 01:14 GMT
#243
On September 02 2009 10:10 Xxio wrote:
Show nested quote +

Did you not watch the damn movie at all?

They kept them in the middle of Africa because it was right below their mothership. This was blatantly obvious.

Governments hired this corporation to move the aliens (specifically the South African government) because they didn't want to do it themselves and have the "blood on their hands".

There were 1.8 million (or more) aliens in District 9. Are you seriously going to tell me that it's that easy to control them, keep them from living in slum-like conditions, and stopping crime from running rampant in a slum of 1.8 MILLION?

It's 30 years in the future. Like I said, the corporation was hired by the South African government and not too much changed from what it's like today (realistically, in 30 years we won't change that much).

The plot is perfectly believable, you obviously just didn't watch half the movie or it'd be blatantly obvious as to why.


Why does it matter whether they are under the mothership? at no point are the aliens like, "we want to stay under the mothership even though nothing has happened with it for 20 years". its not like they are being nice to them by doing it. they shoot 5 of them then are like, "what are you complaining about, we let you stay under the mothership and eat goat heads!"...another thing..where is the food? epic fail
Um yes, it would be easy to control them. If First Contact was made 1.8 aliens could easily be accommodated. governments would spend billions.
Have "blood on their hands" ?, why does there have to be blood in the first place? just don't be a dick about it and tell them your going to take away their children..

i'm done with this thread


Keeping them under the mothership is convenient. Not only does this mean not moving the aliens very far, it means that they're close to the ship in case they need it.

Honestly, all I see here is an idealistic dreamer saying, "Well they SHOULD'VE done this." Well, too bad. This movie portrays what could more realistically happen. Humanity is greedy, selfish, and fairly evil at most points.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
zeppelin
Profile Joined December 2007
United States565 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 01:16:49
September 02 2009 01:16 GMT
#244
On September 02 2009 10:03 Stratos_speAr wrote:
It's 30 years in the future. Like I said, the corporation was hired by the South African government and not too much changed from what it's like today (realistically, in 30 years we won't change that much).


no it isn't...first contact was in 1982 and the events of the movie were in august of 2010, you can check the footage on the cameras
zeppelin
Profile Joined December 2007
United States565 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 01:26:56
September 02 2009 01:20 GMT
#245
On September 02 2009 10:10 Xxio wrote:
Show nested quote +

Did you not watch the damn movie at all?

They kept them in the middle of Africa because it was right below their mothership. This was blatantly obvious.

Governments hired this corporation to move the aliens (specifically the South African government) because they didn't want to do it themselves and have the "blood on their hands".

There were 1.8 million (or more) aliens in District 9. Are you seriously going to tell me that it's that easy to control them, keep them from living in slum-like conditions, and stopping crime from running rampant in a slum of 1.8 MILLION?

It's 30 years in the future. Like I said, the corporation was hired by the South African government and not too much changed from what it's like today (realistically, in 30 years we won't change that much).

The plot is perfectly believable, you obviously just didn't watch half the movie or it'd be blatantly obvious as to why.


Why does it matter whether they are under the mothership? at no point are the aliens like, "we want to stay under the mothership even though nothing has happened with it for 20 years". its not like they are being nice to them by doing it. they shoot 5 of them then are like, "what are you complaining about, we let you stay under the mothership and eat goat heads!"...another thing..where is the food? epic fail
Um yes, it would be easy to control them. If First Contact was made 1.8 aliens could easily be accommodated. governments would spend billions.
Have "blood on their hands" ?, why does there have to be blood in the first place? just don't be a dick about it and tell them your going to take away their children..

i'm done with this thread


humanity doesn't have a very good track record with dealing with new cultures, they tend to get marginalized if not outright genocided - as soon as we found out they were useless for giving us any technological advances, literally all we would need from them would be enough bodies/contraband to experiment on

sure there is some concern that if they were found by a group of aliens that had its leadership structure intact we would be invaded and conquered, but they were probably under the assumption that that would happen regardless of how well we treated the aliens

what is the incentive of a government to spend billions of dollars on a group of individuals who will be strongly disliked by the existing residents and aren't able to make any contributions to that society, other than altruism (and it's not far-fetched to think altruism for a group of violent, unruly bug monsters will be harder to come by than altruism for other humans)

not to mention my earlier point, when the aliens landed it was the middle of the cold war. nato and warsaw pact were probably at a standoff for where they should go and while south africa was far more on the side of the west, keeping them where they were was probably the most diplomatically appropriate action. the US/USSR probably had access to them early on and quickly discovered the same thing that south africa did - they were of no use to us (and again, for all we know they had their own clandestine alien research programs which wouldn't be discussed in a documentary and weren't central enough to the plot to be discussed).
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
September 06 2009 16:33 GMT
#246
i wished i missed that movie, would make it so much easier to wait for the sequel ^^
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
September 06 2009 16:58 GMT
#247
just watched it, amazing movie..
One ring, to rule them all!
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 06 2009 17:33 GMT
#248
On September 02 2009 10:10 Xxio wrote:
Show nested quote +

Did you not watch the damn movie at all?

They kept them in the middle of Africa because it was right below their mothership. This was blatantly obvious.

Governments hired this corporation to move the aliens (specifically the South African government) because they didn't want to do it themselves and have the "blood on their hands".

There were 1.8 million (or more) aliens in District 9. Are you seriously going to tell me that it's that easy to control them, keep them from living in slum-like conditions, and stopping crime from running rampant in a slum of 1.8 MILLION?

It's 30 years in the future. Like I said, the corporation was hired by the South African government and not too much changed from what it's like today (realistically, in 30 years we won't change that much).

The plot is perfectly believable, you obviously just didn't watch half the movie or it'd be blatantly obvious as to why.


Why does it matter whether they are under the mothership? at no point are the aliens like, "we want to stay under the mothership even though nothing has happened with it for 20 years". its not like they are being nice to them by doing it. they shoot 5 of them then are like, "what are you complaining about, we let you stay under the mothership and eat goat heads!"...another thing..where is the food? epic fail
Um yes, it would be easy to control them. If First Contact was made 1.8 aliens could easily be accommodated. governments would spend billions.
Have "blood on their hands" ?, why does there have to be blood in the first place? just don't be a dick about it and tell them your going to take away their children..

i'm done with this thread


They aren't keeping them in Africa to be near the mothership. They are keeping them there because nobody else wants them. What are you suggesting? Countries want to take in 2 million prawns to be responsible for and to have to house and feed 2 million people? There's a reason why in the movie every South African wants them relocated and the plot of the movie is built around the relocation. I'm not sure why you have this idea that countries would spend billions to inherit a slum of 2 million crab people, especially in the 80s when America is in an arms race with the Soviet Union and is already cutting funding for tons of social programs that house/feed their own citizens.
Ichigo1234551
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States649 Posts
September 06 2009 22:58 GMT
#249
sup its on torrent guys, get it fast
I WILL DESTROY YOU IN 2009 OK???????????????
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
September 06 2009 23:13 GMT
#250
Great movie, love the way they opened up the path for a sequel so blatantly :D
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Ichigo1234551
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States649 Posts
September 07 2009 05:24 GMT
#251
damn i wonder what would the alien do after that alien returns home. I bet they would come back with mad army and take over us lol. then we will be the slave
I WILL DESTROY YOU IN 2009 OK???????????????
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
September 08 2009 23:27 GMT
#252
Just watched it today, Amazing movie this is, rarely has sci-fi flicks surpassed mediocrity, easily the best movie i have seen for this year...

Strongly recommend this to anyone...
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
September 14 2009 09:26 GMT
#253
Watched it yesterday and still recurs in my thoughts periodically.

In the middle, I was like "Is this Steven Spielberg?". And then, "hmm, nothing sucks so far, so no, this is sb new". At the end I was sure they spent 200M-ish on the movie and was pleasantly surprised it was "only" 30M.

Really great piece of work.
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
September 17 2009 06:35 GMT
#254
Just watched this. Fantastic movie, the only complaint I had was probably the transition between documentary and the bulk of the movie felt pretty awkward for me. I really didn't think there were any plothole problems that weren't answered by subtle cues or minor inference.

The fuel for example, I thought the director did a good job showing that the liquid needed to be REFINED, let alone find. The 20 years could have simply been required to treat a component not shown. Anyone familiar with fusion or fission should not be surprised by how little amount of the fuel it took to power what was needed.
Wake up Mr. B!
rugmonkey
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom126 Posts
September 17 2009 11:45 GMT
#255
What a great movie. Really liked how it drew parallels to modern life. Bit disheartening to know that that would probably be the reaction of humans if aliens came to earth.
Oplegend
Profile Joined September 2009
15 Posts
September 17 2009 12:47 GMT
#256
amazing movie,i love it.
i expect the sequel series after three years.
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
September 17 2009 15:57 GMT
#257
Just a thought, do they taste like prawns? If they do, they are basically like lobster right? Human can farm them! They should be glad that their mothership didn't land on Japan.
Leenock the Punisher
zeppelin
Profile Joined December 2007
United States565 Posts
September 17 2009 16:13 GMT
#258
They're named after Parktown Prawns which are large crickets that infest parts of Johannesburg, not the prawns which are commonly associated with being eaten.
Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
September 17 2009 16:26 GMT
#259
People seem to overthink this in some manner, and in a faulty manner everytime.

Indeed why did they land in South Africa... Well where would you land at the first sight of a foreign world?
Why are they all in the same place? Would you want them to be spread out in small portions all across the globe? I think not.

Why is it a slum? Because the aliens are counter-productive and violent.

Just seems to be alot of bad feedback from a lot of people complaining about the plot, when all in all it's not too complicated, it's just pretty damn original... And that's what we need these days... Originality instead of remake after remake after fucking bleeding remake -_-
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-21 01:58:07
September 21 2009 01:57 GMT
#260
From WorstPreviews.com

Nigeria's information minister, Dora Akunyili, says that "District 9" is not welcome in Nigeria because it portrays Nigerians as gangsters and cannibals. She has asked movie houses to stop screening the film.

Akunyili says she requested an apology from Sony and wants them to edit out the Nigerian antagonists and the name of the main Nigerian gangster Obesandjo, whose name closely resembles that of former Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo.

This news comes just days after Nigeria complained about a different Sony product. In a commercial for PS3, an actor states: "You can't believe everything you read on the internet. Otherwise, I'd be a Nigerian millionaire by now."

Nigierian government officials demanded an apology from the cmpany as well as the immediate removal of the commercial. Sony has since replaced the line with: "You can't believe everything you read on the internet. That's how World War I got started."
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