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On May 03 2014 12:58 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 12:47 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 10:05 Sentenal wrote:On May 02 2014 12:44 Forikorder wrote:http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.html
Really then who is that. someone close, but not at, enies lobby "I had no idea you were here...!" "..." "We are still going to go after them!" "No need. Its obvious that this was our complete defeat." The above exchange happened between some random guy on a bike out in the ocean who just happened to be right next to some weird inferno and some Battleships. I wonder who and where this could be...? Please Fork, you are wrong, please stop struggling with your nonsense, and take this gracefully. i never said he wasnt close to enies lobby he just wasnt actually there just close enough to watch but wasnt actually there unless you count being on enied lobby as being within a few kilometers in the sea So were the Battleships that were destroying Enies Lobby not actually at Enies Lobby, then? Please just take your dumpstering gracefully.
was Aokiji on the battleships?
the battleships were just barely off the coast (and towards the end where the buildings used to be) Aokiji was much farther off then them
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nope, you have to be on the island to be at Enis Lobby, it's common sense.
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On May 03 2014 13:10 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 12:58 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 12:47 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 10:05 Sentenal wrote:On May 02 2014 12:44 Forikorder wrote:http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.html
Really then who is that. someone close, but not at, enies lobby "I had no idea you were here...!" "..." "We are still going to go after them!" "No need. Its obvious that this was our complete defeat." The above exchange happened between some random guy on a bike out in the ocean who just happened to be right next to some weird inferno and some Battleships. I wonder who and where this could be...? Please Fork, you are wrong, please stop struggling with your nonsense, and take this gracefully. i never said he wasnt close to enies lobby he just wasnt actually there just close enough to watch but wasnt actually there unless you count being on enied lobby as being within a few kilometers in the sea So were the Battleships that were destroying Enies Lobby not actually at Enies Lobby, then? Please just take your dumpstering gracefully. was Aokiji on the battleships? the battleships were just barely off the coast (and towards the end where the buildings used to be) Aokiji was much farther off then them
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.html
Look at that page. Look at the bottom of that page. See that frame with the guy on the bike silhouetted over the background of Enies Lobby? Thats Aokiji. Right off the fucking coast. Very close to those Battleships. And the anime makes even THAT much clearer:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CzJzT3R.jpg)
He was there, present, at Enies Lobby, watching the events as they went down. You are wrong. How does that make you feel?
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On May 03 2014 13:50 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 13:10 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 12:58 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 12:47 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 10:05 Sentenal wrote:On May 02 2014 12:44 Forikorder wrote:http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.html
Really then who is that. someone close, but not at, enies lobby "I had no idea you were here...!" "..." "We are still going to go after them!" "No need. Its obvious that this was our complete defeat." The above exchange happened between some random guy on a bike out in the ocean who just happened to be right next to some weird inferno and some Battleships. I wonder who and where this could be...? Please Fork, you are wrong, please stop struggling with your nonsense, and take this gracefully. i never said he wasnt close to enies lobby he just wasnt actually there just close enough to watch but wasnt actually there unless you count being on enied lobby as being within a few kilometers in the sea So were the Battleships that were destroying Enies Lobby not actually at Enies Lobby, then? Please just take your dumpstering gracefully. was Aokiji on the battleships? the battleships were just barely off the coast (and towards the end where the buildings used to be) Aokiji was much farther off then them http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.htmlLook at that page. Look at the bottom of that page. See that frame with the guy on the bike silhouetted over the background of Enies Lobby? Thats Aokiji. Right off the fucking coast. Very close to those Battleships. And the anime makes even THAT much clearer: He was there, present, at Enies Lobby, watching the events as they went down. You are wrong. How does that make you feel?
1. thats the anime
and yes i know he was close enough to enies lobby to watch ive said that many times now
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On May 03 2014 13:57 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 13:50 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 13:10 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 12:58 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 12:47 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 10:05 Sentenal wrote:On May 02 2014 12:44 Forikorder wrote:http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.html
Really then who is that. someone close, but not at, enies lobby "I had no idea you were here...!" "..." "We are still going to go after them!" "No need. Its obvious that this was our complete defeat." The above exchange happened between some random guy on a bike out in the ocean who just happened to be right next to some weird inferno and some Battleships. I wonder who and where this could be...? Please Fork, you are wrong, please stop struggling with your nonsense, and take this gracefully. i never said he wasnt close to enies lobby he just wasnt actually there just close enough to watch but wasnt actually there unless you count being on enied lobby as being within a few kilometers in the sea So were the Battleships that were destroying Enies Lobby not actually at Enies Lobby, then? Please just take your dumpstering gracefully. was Aokiji on the battleships? the battleships were just barely off the coast (and towards the end where the buildings used to be) Aokiji was much farther off then them http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.htmlLook at that page. Look at the bottom of that page. See that frame with the guy on the bike silhouetted over the background of Enies Lobby? Thats Aokiji. Right off the fucking coast. Very close to those Battleships. And the anime makes even THAT much clearer: He was there, present, at Enies Lobby, watching the events as they went down. You are wrong. How does that make you feel? 1. thats the anime and yes i know he was close enough to enies lobby to watch ive said that many times now
You said he was kilometers away from the Island. When in fact he was just off the coast. Same as the Battleships! Who would have thought! Aokiji was there, you are wrong, and can't take it gracefully! Who would have thought.
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On May 03 2014 14:04 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 13:57 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 13:50 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 13:10 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 12:58 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 12:47 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 10:05 Sentenal wrote:On May 02 2014 12:44 Forikorder wrote:http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.html
Really then who is that. someone close, but not at, enies lobby "I had no idea you were here...!" "..." "We are still going to go after them!" "No need. Its obvious that this was our complete defeat." The above exchange happened between some random guy on a bike out in the ocean who just happened to be right next to some weird inferno and some Battleships. I wonder who and where this could be...? Please Fork, you are wrong, please stop struggling with your nonsense, and take this gracefully. i never said he wasnt close to enies lobby he just wasnt actually there just close enough to watch but wasnt actually there unless you count being on enied lobby as being within a few kilometers in the sea So were the Battleships that were destroying Enies Lobby not actually at Enies Lobby, then? Please just take your dumpstering gracefully. was Aokiji on the battleships? the battleships were just barely off the coast (and towards the end where the buildings used to be) Aokiji was much farther off then them http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.htmlLook at that page. Look at the bottom of that page. See that frame with the guy on the bike silhouetted over the background of Enies Lobby? Thats Aokiji. Right off the fucking coast. Very close to those Battleships. And the anime makes even THAT much clearer: He was there, present, at Enies Lobby, watching the events as they went down. You are wrong. How does that make you feel? 1. thats the anime and yes i know he was close enough to enies lobby to watch ive said that many times now You said he was kilometers away from the Island. When in fact he was just off the coast. Same as the Battleships! Who would have thought! Aokiji was there, you are wrong, and can't take it gracefully! Who would have thought.
that pic was from the anime which doesnt count the manga doesnt clearly show where exactly he is
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.html
im guessing the shapes you can see past him at the battleships, and judging by the size hes a far distance away from them
at any rate if Aokiji had been nowhere even remotely close to ennies lobby nothing at all would have changed regardless of his geographical position he did nothing at all to influence events at ennies lobby past giving leather mask dude the golden den-den muchi
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On May 03 2014 14:15 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 14:04 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 13:57 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 13:50 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 13:10 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 12:58 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 12:47 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 10:05 Sentenal wrote:On May 02 2014 12:44 Forikorder wrote:http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.html
Really then who is that. someone close, but not at, enies lobby "I had no idea you were here...!" "..." "We are still going to go after them!" "No need. Its obvious that this was our complete defeat." The above exchange happened between some random guy on a bike out in the ocean who just happened to be right next to some weird inferno and some Battleships. I wonder who and where this could be...? Please Fork, you are wrong, please stop struggling with your nonsense, and take this gracefully. i never said he wasnt close to enies lobby he just wasnt actually there just close enough to watch but wasnt actually there unless you count being on enied lobby as being within a few kilometers in the sea So were the Battleships that were destroying Enies Lobby not actually at Enies Lobby, then? Please just take your dumpstering gracefully. was Aokiji on the battleships? the battleships were just barely off the coast (and towards the end where the buildings used to be) Aokiji was much farther off then them http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.htmlLook at that page. Look at the bottom of that page. See that frame with the guy on the bike silhouetted over the background of Enies Lobby? Thats Aokiji. Right off the fucking coast. Very close to those Battleships. And the anime makes even THAT much clearer: He was there, present, at Enies Lobby, watching the events as they went down. You are wrong. How does that make you feel? 1. thats the anime and yes i know he was close enough to enies lobby to watch ive said that many times now You said he was kilometers away from the Island. When in fact he was just off the coast. Same as the Battleships! Who would have thought! Aokiji was there, you are wrong, and can't take it gracefully! Who would have thought. that pic was from the anime which doesnt count the manga doesnt clearly show where exactly he is http://www.mangareader.net/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.htmlim guessing the shapes you can see past him at the battleships, and judging by the size hes a far distance away from them at any rate if Aokiji had been nowhere even remotely close to ennies lobby nothing at all would have changed regardless of his geographical position he did nothing at all to influence events at ennies lobby past giving leather mask dude the golden den-den muchi
Considering the shapes past him are on fire and look like buildings, I'd say that was Enies Lobby. And seeing as how he was able to watch a tiny little caravel escape from Battleships, he was close enough to watch, putting him right off the coats of the Island.
No one has ever, even once, said or even tried to imply that Aokiji did anything other than watch. However, he was there. The manga and the anime prove it. Show some class, and quit trying to insist you weren't wrong. I've actually seen you make occasional insightful comments before, but this whole thing is erasing all that you had built up.
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On May 03 2014 14:21 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 14:15 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 14:04 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 13:57 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 13:50 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 13:10 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 12:58 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 12:47 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 10:05 Sentenal wrote:On May 02 2014 12:44 Forikorder wrote:
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someone close, but not at, enies lobby "I had no idea you were here...!" "..." "We are still going to go after them!" "No need. Its obvious that this was our complete defeat." The above exchange happened between some random guy on a bike out in the ocean who just happened to be right next to some weird inferno and some Battleships. I wonder who and where this could be...? Please Fork, you are wrong, please stop struggling with your nonsense, and take this gracefully. i never said he wasnt close to enies lobby he just wasnt actually there just close enough to watch but wasnt actually there unless you count being on enied lobby as being within a few kilometers in the sea So were the Battleships that were destroying Enies Lobby not actually at Enies Lobby, then? Please just take your dumpstering gracefully. was Aokiji on the battleships? the battleships were just barely off the coast (and towards the end where the buildings used to be) Aokiji was much farther off then them http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.htmlLook at that page. Look at the bottom of that page. See that frame with the guy on the bike silhouetted over the background of Enies Lobby? Thats Aokiji. Right off the fucking coast. Very close to those Battleships. And the anime makes even THAT much clearer: He was there, present, at Enies Lobby, watching the events as they went down. You are wrong. How does that make you feel? 1. thats the anime and yes i know he was close enough to enies lobby to watch ive said that many times now You said he was kilometers away from the Island. When in fact he was just off the coast. Same as the Battleships! Who would have thought! Aokiji was there, you are wrong, and can't take it gracefully! Who would have thought. that pic was from the anime which doesnt count the manga doesnt clearly show where exactly he is http://www.mangareader.net/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.htmlim guessing the shapes you can see past him at the battleships, and judging by the size hes a far distance away from them at any rate if Aokiji had been nowhere even remotely close to ennies lobby nothing at all would have changed regardless of his geographical position he did nothing at all to influence events at ennies lobby past giving leather mask dude the golden den-den muchi Considering the shapes past him are on fire and look like buildings, I'd say that was Enies Lobby. And seeing as how he was able to watch a tiny little caravel escape from Battleships, he was close enough to watch, putting him right off the coats of the Island. No one has ever, even once, said or even tried to imply that Aokiji did anything other than watch. However, he was there. The manga and the anime prove it. Show some class, and quit trying to insist you weren't wrong. I've actually seen you make occasional insightful comments before, but this whole thing is erasing all that you had built up.
look at the next panel, theres heavy mist waht your seeing as fire is just mist with the battleships inside it
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On May 03 2014 14:27 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 14:21 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 14:15 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 14:04 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 13:57 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 13:50 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 13:10 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 12:58 Sentenal wrote:On May 03 2014 12:47 Forikorder wrote:On May 03 2014 10:05 Sentenal wrote:
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"I had no idea you were here...!"
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"We are still going to go after them!"
"No need. Its obvious that this was our complete defeat."
The above exchange happened between some random guy on a bike out in the ocean who just happened to be right next to some weird inferno and some Battleships. I wonder who and where this could be...?
Please Fork, you are wrong, please stop struggling with your nonsense, and take this gracefully. i never said he wasnt close to enies lobby he just wasnt actually there just close enough to watch but wasnt actually there unless you count being on enied lobby as being within a few kilometers in the sea So were the Battleships that were destroying Enies Lobby not actually at Enies Lobby, then? Please just take your dumpstering gracefully. was Aokiji on the battleships? the battleships were just barely off the coast (and towards the end where the buildings used to be) Aokiji was much farther off then them http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.htmlLook at that page. Look at the bottom of that page. See that frame with the guy on the bike silhouetted over the background of Enies Lobby? Thats Aokiji. Right off the fucking coast. Very close to those Battleships. And the anime makes even THAT much clearer: He was there, present, at Enies Lobby, watching the events as they went down. You are wrong. How does that make you feel? 1. thats the anime and yes i know he was close enough to enies lobby to watch ive said that many times now You said he was kilometers away from the Island. When in fact he was just off the coast. Same as the Battleships! Who would have thought! Aokiji was there, you are wrong, and can't take it gracefully! Who would have thought. that pic was from the anime which doesnt count the manga doesnt clearly show where exactly he is http://www.mangareader.net/103-2536-15/one-piece/chapter-429.htmlim guessing the shapes you can see past him at the battleships, and judging by the size hes a far distance away from them at any rate if Aokiji had been nowhere even remotely close to ennies lobby nothing at all would have changed regardless of his geographical position he did nothing at all to influence events at ennies lobby past giving leather mask dude the golden den-den muchi Considering the shapes past him are on fire and look like buildings, I'd say that was Enies Lobby. And seeing as how he was able to watch a tiny little caravel escape from Battleships, he was close enough to watch, putting him right off the coats of the Island. No one has ever, even once, said or even tried to imply that Aokiji did anything other than watch. However, he was there. The manga and the anime prove it. Show some class, and quit trying to insist you weren't wrong. I've actually seen you make occasional insightful comments before, but this whole thing is erasing all that you had built up. look at the next panel, theres heavy mist waht your seeing as fire is just mist with the battleships inside it
No. Its smoke from the fires. The battleships are not surrounded by mist. You are blind. And gasp, the burning city backdrop behind Aokiji is the same burning city backdrop for the Battleships and everything else off the coast! Stop making up shit. Both the manga and anime agree, Fork is wrong. But I suppose Oda didn't say he wasn't several kilometers away out in the middle of fucking no where just jacking off, right? Just like how Oda never said that Rokushiki wasn't Haki.
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Fork isn't wrong, Oda is wrong.
The strawhats are just luckily Enel was in space during this time.
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Didn't Usopp lie about aliens? Doesn't that mean that Enel will come back with his alien army?
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What a stupid discussion and yes he was there.. exactly where he wanted to be!
If he wanted to be in the middle, icing everybody he would have done it.. but he stayed outshore
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On May 01 2014 12:53 Mataza wrote:
The important part is that Doflamingo is in deep shit.
I think this is the essence of the Bird Cage. If he's forced to use something so drastic (like he was), it means he's really been backed into a tight spot.
On May 02 2014 05:31 Yorbon wrote:
On another note, do we have any information on cp0 other then their existence atm? I can't remember i read anything specific about them.
A recent episode of the anime showed what I'd forgotten from the manga where Violet showed Sanji the morning after the newspaper announcing Donflamingo's resignation. Dressrosa citizens were restless, and it showed CP0's ship pulling in, they disembarked, and then told the citizens that the resignation was misinformation but to not talk about it until the special edition newspaper was released at 3 later that day.
The most important part was that a citizen said that he'd heard that CP0 answered directly to the World Nobles - which raises the question of exactly who called CP0 there. Likely not with Admiral Fujitora, especially since on Green Bit (right before the trade) he seemed to be just hearing about the resignation being a fake from Akainu (aka, Saka-san) so the Marines were just as much in the dark as the Straw Hats and Law. Donflamingo himself (seemed to be waiting for their arrival in the flashback) as further firepower in relation to his trap against Law's plan seems like a strong possibility - particularly with their seeming cooperation with/knowledge of the fake resignation, but it might not be as straightforward as just being there as extra forces for Donflamingo.
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/712/11
I imagine we'll get more information or see some action from CP-0 around when we get more details about Donflamingo's connections to the World Nobles.
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What I don't get is that if he wanted everyone dead, couldn't he just have the strings of bird cage converge to the center of the island, slicing everyone in the process?
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On May 03 2014 21:09 Warfie wrote:
What I don't get is that if he wanted everyone dead, couldn't he just have the strings of bird cage converge to the center of the island, slicing everyone in the process?
that would kill his crew, and then everyone inside would have to join forces to kill him instead of everyone in one giant battle royale
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Yeah, because he simply can't have his crew in the centre of the island right next to him and stop the contraction of the strings just befor his crew members.
The better explanation is simply that he doesn't have the control to do so, or the speed to do so, or doesn't want to do so. Of course, if he had tha above ability and will, then it's just a plot hole.
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On May 04 2014 01:39 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Yeah, because he simply can't have his crew in the centre of the island right next to him and stop the contraction of the strings just befor his crew members.
The better explanation is simply that he doesn't have the control to do so, or the speed to do so, or doesn't want to do so. Of course, if he had tha above ability and will, then it's just a plot hole.
everyone else would just go to the center of the island too...
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Its just for plot. Its like he could have pika make the entire island overlap like a buritto and crush everyone but he wont because of plot.
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On May 04 2014 00:09 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 21:09 Warfie wrote:
What I don't get is that if he wanted everyone dead, couldn't he just have the strings of bird cage converge to the center of the island, slicing everyone in the process? that would kill his crew, and then everyone inside would have to join forces to kill him instead of everyone in one giant battle royale
Not necessarily. Consider this option (theorycrafting I know): becuase of Pika's ability all members go to the castle as their base. The SMILE Factory also 'moves' to the castle. Then Doflamingo closes in the string birdcage. People try to get into the center of the island (aka castle) but Pika doesn't let them. Everyone dies but those in the castle. Doflamingo wins.
Then Sugar turns all the dead bodies into dead toys and nobody remembers anything, thus their can't be any retaliation from the government/marines. Doflamingo continues to rule Dressrosa. Seems a bit OP. Theorycrafting is fun!! 
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On May 04 2014 02:00 shark. wrote:
Its just for plot. Its like he could have pika make the entire island overlap like a buritto and crush everyone but he wont because of plot.
Wait I thought pika's ability was to merge with the castle, but that's it. Like, he can merge with buildings, not the ground or something. Otherwise, merging with the world would be pretty OP... So can he actually do that?
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