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SoulTakerz
Canada353 Posts
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LightRain
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1. He has the String fruit. 2. We already know he's a Puppet Master. Conclusion: He himself is a puppet. This can have two results: 1. The "Dofla" we know is not actually Dofla. That is a puppet. The real Dofla is elsewhere. 2. The "Dofla" we know is Dofla, but he can sew himself back together. I do concede, though, that the Law/Room theory is possible. However, from a storytelling POV, I cannot imagine anything other than the two possibilities above. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 03 2014 03:53 LightRain wrote: I can't believe the number of people who think Dofla is really dead. This is really, really straightforward: 1. He has the String fruit. 2. We already know he's a Puppet Master. Conclusion: He himself is a puppet. This can have two results: 1. The "Dofla" we know is not actually Dofla. That is a puppet. The real Dofla is elsewhere. 2. The "Dofla" we know is Dofla, but he can sew himself back together. I do concede, though, that the Law/Room theory is possible. However, from a storytelling POV, I cannot imagine anything other than the two possibilities above. or he just has a string double (kinda like Mr3s wax doubles) and was already on the way to the factory to deal with it personally | ||
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Chro
United States240 Posts
From a story telling perspective i think law saved him, this whole thing has been pretty personal with law and wouldn't be surprised that he wants to either a: kill him himself, or b: wants him to live but be stripped of all his rights. Not to mention the cold calculating law is now opening up as a character. Similar to robin during the water 7 arc. | ||
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goody153
44282 Posts
Just theory crafting though. EDIT: Oh wait isn't this the theory what some of here is talking about ? didn't read all the posts | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On April 03 2014 03:53 LightRain wrote: I can't believe the number of people who think Dofla is really dead. This is really, really straightforward: 1. He has the String fruit. 2. We already know he's a Puppet Master. Conclusion: He himself is a puppet. This can have two results: 1. The "Dofla" we know is not actually Dofla. That is a puppet. The real Dofla is elsewhere. 2. The "Dofla" we know is Dofla, but he can sew himself back together. I do concede, though, that the Law/Room theory is possible. However, from a storytelling POV, I cannot imagine anything other than the two possibilities above. plottwist: the real joker is a little brat wearing those tenyuubito air tubes and is just (literally) pulling the strings on the current doflamingo we know. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Not that I was mad at you for last chapter or anything, but you certainly more than made up for it with this one. As annoyed as I was about the gimmicky way Usopp took down Sugar, the thumbs up made it all worth it. And then the decapitation? Brilliant. He KNOWS everyone is thinking 'No way could DD be dead this early...but COULD HE? Is it a devil fruit thing we don't know about?" Either way, Oda has created a twist we KNOW is coming, and he can take any route he wants on it and it'll be awesome. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 03 2014 04:18 goody153 wrote: We could also say that law's fruit cut him before Kyros managed to slice him since doflamingo could not keep up with kyros speed during a surprise attack. How did law help him ? maybe doflamingo's fruit allows 100% control over someone. Just theory crafting though. EDIT: Oh wait isn't this the theory what some of here is talking about ? didn't read all the posts laws still tied up in chains and we already know Dofla has seastone chains | ||
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MagmaPunch
Bulgaria536 Posts
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goody153
44282 Posts
On April 03 2014 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote: Alrighty Oda. Not that I was mad at you for last chapter or anything, but you certainly more than made up for it with this one. As annoyed as I was about the gimmicky way Usopp took down Sugar, the thumbs up made it all worth it. And then the decapitation? Brilliant. He KNOWS everyone is thinking 'No way could DD be dead this early...but COULD HE? Is it a devil fruit thing we don't know about?" Either way, Oda has created a twist we KNOW is coming, and he can take any route he wants on it and it'll be awesome. Let's just hope Oda doesn't go Kishimoto-mode. Going kishimoto mode is really popular nowadays. If DD would be that would be too bad i guess. Too anticlimatic but if ever DF is really dead then the series from now on becomes incredibly unpredictable. Then One Piece will be more awesome and highly unpredictable which is good since we will never know if Oda will retain a dark tone or a lighter shounen tone. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On April 03 2014 04:33 goody153 wrote: Let's just hope Oda doesn't go Kishimoto-mode. Going kishimoto mode is really popular nowadays. If DD would be that would be too bad i guess. Too anticlimatic but if ever DF is really dead then the series from now on becomes incredibly unpredictable. Then One Piece will be more awesome and highly unpredictable which is good since we will never know if Oda will retain a dark tone or a lighter shounen tone. Basically. DD's death is short-term loss but a MASSIVE gain in terms of long-term storytelling. I highly doubt he's dead (puppet theory, logia, etc) as it seems pretty damn unlikely for Oda to go that route considering how formulaic (but still awesome) each arc has been thus far, but it's worth considering at the very least. | ||
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goody153
44282 Posts
On April 03 2014 04:48 WaveofShadow wrote: Basically. DD's death is short-term loss but a MASSIVE gain in terms of long-term storytelling. I highly doubt he's dead (puppet theory, logia, etc) as it seems pretty damn unlikely for Oda to go that route considering how formulaic (but still awesome) each arc has been thus far, but it's worth considering at the very least. Yeah basically that. He'd be doing some really sick meta in story telling. If that happens i will say Oda is beyond godlike :D Or maybe he could be dead JUST FOR NOW. And we gonna see him later. After the smoke will dissipate(i mean marines+ BigMom + revolution) and he will be more deadly and fun. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On April 03 2014 04:31 MagmaPunch wrote: No fucking way he died. I mean, take a realistic look on things. We are talking about a possibly top tier fighter, who obliterated Law, had some skirmishes with Jozu and Kuzan.He is pretty fucking fast as well and you are telling me that practically a nobody will defeat a major figure in the series? Anti-climatic. Not only that,but everyone in the room had the time to notice Kyros and Dofla didn't move a single muscle.Sorry, but I see no way Dofla stays dead. I don't think Dofla is dead, but Kyros can hardly be called a nobody... 3000 straight wins in a colloseum located in the new world isn't something that should be taken lightly. Not to mention he was bad ass enough to slice off his own leg to save the king without hesitation. He is a beast, and really killing Dofla this way would be an interesting way to show that no matter how strong or well connected you are, dropping your guard for a second in the new world could mean death. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On April 03 2014 02:44 Forikorder wrote: we have people run on thin air just fine (Sanji) but running on solid ground with one leg stretchs the suspension of disbelief? Yes. Did you just not read anything I wrote and went straight to just repeating yourself? Because Sanji being able to use CP9 technique is internally consistent, with expanations on CP9 martial arts and stuff set up before hand, whilst running around on one leg without impairment isn't. Maybe it turns out that Curos is using CP9 air jump techniques or some other explanation, but that hasn't been presented yet. It's not a common idea even within shonen whilst stuff like land in the sky and "magical" powers are.The real puzzle is why you are suprised that people point out something that breaks their suspension of disbelief.. | ||
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goody153
44282 Posts
On April 03 2014 04:52 Necro)Phagist( wrote: I don't think Dofla is dead, but Kyros can hardly be called a nobody... 3000 straight wins in a colloseum located in the new world isn't something that should be taken lightly. Not to mention he was bad ass enough to slice off his own leg to save the king without hesitation. He is a beast, and really killing Dofla this way would be an interesting way to show that no matter how strong or well connected you are, dropping your guard for a second in the new world could mean death. This would mean that we are watching a series that is not DBZ type. Means if you don't have the right allies at the right time. You would be dead. Since you know most shounen manga mean that as long as you are a important character you will never die by just getting caught of guard. | ||
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shark.
593 Posts
On April 03 2014 04:55 goody153 wrote: This would mean that we are watching a series that is not DBZ type. Means if you don't have the right allies at the right time. You would be dead. Since you know most shounen manga mean that as long as you are a important character you will never die by just getting caught of guard. Do you actually believe that any important character be it hero or villain is actually going to die? Out of everything that has happened in the manga and all the injuries suffered there have only been 3 deaths..... | ||
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MagmaPunch
Bulgaria536 Posts
On April 03 2014 04:52 Necro)Phagist( wrote: I don't think Dofla is dead, but Kyros can hardly be called a nobody... 3000 straight wins in a colloseum located in the new world isn't something that should be taken lightly. Not to mention he was bad ass enough to slice off his own leg to save the king without hesitation. He is a beast, and really killing Dofla this way would be an interesting way to show that no matter how strong or well connected you are, dropping your guard for a second in the new world could mean death. I do not neglect the fact,that he is a colloseum hero without a loss.But we have no idea what kind of opponents he was facing.I mean, I doubt that top dogs were fighting there and now we are talking about Doflamingo- a famous pirate, Shichibukai etc. etc. It just seems way too random.The other bad thing is that Kyros doesn't really have a huge significance in the OP world.I doubt that he has potential for more story than just this arc,but who knows, Oda can be unpredictable | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On April 03 2014 04:55 goody153 wrote: This would mean that we are watching a series that is not DBZ type. Means if you don't have the right allies at the right time. You would be dead. Since you know most shounen manga mean that as long as you are a important character you will never die by just getting caught of guard. Exactly, kind of what I mean. Again I Do Not think doflamingo is dead. Just pointing out that if ever there was a time for Oda to transiition away from the DBZ/shounen type manga this would be it. Would be one hell of a statement and way to announce that transition. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On April 03 2014 05:10 MagmaPunch wrote: I do not neglect the fact,that he is a colloseum hero without a loss.But we have no idea what kind of opponents he was facing.I mean, I doubt that top dogs were fighting there and now we are talking about Doflamingo- a famous pirate, Shichibukai etc. etc. It just seems way too random.The other bad thing is that Kyros doesn't really have a huge significance in the OP world.I doubt that he has potential for more story than just this arc,but who knows, Oda can be unpredictable Unpredictable yes, but not outside of the constraints of shounen, it seems. Oda is no GRRM. I would love to see a twist like this, but I don't think Oda has it in him. | ||
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Zeo1990
United States132 Posts
The original plan was to have Kaido go after DF and make it have to flee in fear of him after all. Also, having DF control Laws power through his strings seems either a bit too OP, or just a bit too..."complex" (for lack of a better word) of an explanation if you know what i mean? Good god was this chapter amazing thou. | ||
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