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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 08:30:53
October 24 2012 08:22 GMT
#4521
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/668/12
Looks like law flat out says it but they been implying parts of haki sense the begging of the new world.
On October 24 2012 17:22 17Sphynx17 wrote:
Well, maybe its because he doesn't want to hurt her because she is a woman?? I think it is being suggested by how the battle is gong as he is not pointing the sharp end of the sword against Monet. Has Zoro ever been shown to fight or hurt a woman in any of the arcs? I can't recall. I think he mentioned something about it when he was training in the island of Mifune with that ghost girl which he didn't hurt.

I maybe wrong in what I recall though.

tashigi he disarms her without harming her when they meet in lougetown but it had more to do with resembling kuina then her being a woman. Outside of that i can't remember a time he fought a woman.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
October 24 2012 08:44 GMT
#4522
I like this chapter / like this arc a lot.

- the caesar/kids storyline with the candy is great.
- the harpy woman is a really good villain helper, didn't expect that. I still think she will actually turn out good like Nami and Robin in the end, but so far she makes a cool opponent.
- "Pull out those lower lips and make fun of him" the Zoro/Sanji part is legitimately funny
- glad to see Tashigi use Haki
- Robin is really sexy in that skirt oh my
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
October 24 2012 08:46 GMT
#4523
TBH I think Zoro is just trying to get some practice against a Logia in. Monet says herself she didn't think she could take him, so he obviously CAN beat her, its just a matter of why he isn't trying to.
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
October 24 2012 09:35 GMT
#4524
I like how Chopper's hat and horns fly off when he's scared.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18627 Posts
October 24 2012 10:00 GMT
#4525
I don't think Zorro could beat Monet on his own. We just saw how she can abuse her logia powers to just flee from him and appear where she wants to.
Just because you can use Haki doesn't mean you can beat Logia users. Zorro has no experience how to face such kind of opponents.
And Zorro is not the type of fighter to be nice to women. He doesn't care what gender his opponent is.

Remember we are only halfway through One Piece. Zorro and the rest of the crew still has much to learn.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 24 2012 10:23 GMT
#4526
Yeah he's not Sanji. Out of the top of my head, in Whiskey Peak he fights women including Miss Monday and Miss Valentine though he just casually knocks Miss Catherine unconscious. However I also got the feeling he's only fighting Monet defensively.
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b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
October 24 2012 10:43 GMT
#4527
My theory is this: Zorro can sense that Monet's heart is sincere and is just being manipulated by Ceasar, thus he doesn't hurt her. How? Maybe it's his observation haki. Remember after the timeskip his obs haki had been super godly. (managing to know places and shit all of a sudden)
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18627 Posts
October 24 2012 10:53 GMT
#4528
On October 24 2012 19:43 b3n3tt3 wrote:
My theory is this: Zorro can sense that Monet's heart is sincere and is just being manipulated by Ceasar, thus he doesn't hurt her. How? Maybe it's his observation haki. Remember after the timeskip his obs haki had been super godly. (managing to know places and shit all of a sudden)


but zorro isn't like that, he is a fighter foremost he wouldnt care about sincere hearts
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
October 24 2012 10:58 GMT
#4529
Zoro guys, not zorro
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
October 24 2012 11:03 GMT
#4530
At least we are sure this is a logia, now.
And I really like Monet, she's a nice villain with a brain. And yeah, in the past, Zoro had no trouble fighting against women, he must have another reason. I think.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 24 2012 12:41 GMT
#4531
Hmm, I still can't pick Monet. I wonder if perhaps she's going to play out both sides here and triple agent the crap out of it all come the end. She seems pretty darned intelligent, so I basically see everything she does as an important part of something....
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SpadeAce
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands100 Posts
October 24 2012 13:33 GMT
#4532
Lol Monet is so scary..
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 14:37:56
October 24 2012 14:37 GMT
#4533
Monet is nice not dudes, shes giving the deadly candy to the kids, shes just acting nice to make themw ant it more

shes Doflamingos subordinate guys
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
October 24 2012 15:04 GMT
#4534
Whahaha
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/686/18
This is probably the best OP page of all time God they are so epic
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 16:44:44
October 24 2012 16:38 GMT
#4535
I think Zoro can't use armament Haki or at least do it properly. He is a better swordsman than Tashigi but only she can harm Monet. This will uncomfortably force Zoro to work with her to defeat Monet in which he may learn how to use Haki properly during the fight in order to save Tashigi and defeat Monet.

We still don't know why Luffy said Zoro and Sanji can use Haki. Sanji can use observation haki but hasn't been shown using armament and Zoro hasn't been shown using any Haki. Although checking the wiki it seems like Zoro might have observation Haki since he sensed Caribou in the palace when he was trying to kidnap the princess.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
October 24 2012 16:51 GMT
#4536
zoro know exactly what Monet was ganna do and intercepted monet when she tried to stop nami and robin. That's pretty good evidence of observation hakki. Both Nami and Robin didn't know Monet was ganna pop out from the ground yet zoro knew.
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NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
October 24 2012 19:43 GMT
#4537
On October 25 2012 01:51 rei wrote:
zoro know exactly what Monet was ganna do and intercepted monet when she tried to stop nami and robin. That's pretty good evidence of observation hakki. Both Nami and Robin didn't know Monet was ganna pop out from the ground yet zoro knew.


It would make sense that a guy named Mihawk would have better observational haki over armement. So he probably told Zoro more about it.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 23:46:14
October 24 2012 23:45 GMT
#4538
An aside but does anyone else think Monet resembles Nami enough to be her sister or an older version of Nami?

About Mihawk it can be assumed by Mihawk's number 1 swordsman status he does know armament Haki otherwise he would be defenseless vs Logia so I have no idea why Zoro would not be taught it. I wish Oda went more into the 2 year time skip to explain things like Zoro's training/eye and Robin's involvement with Dragon.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
October 24 2012 23:48 GMT
#4539
On October 24 2012 23:37 Forikorder wrote:
Monet is nice not dudes, shes giving the deadly candy to the kids, shes just acting nice to make themw ant it more

shes Doflamingos subordinate guys


I know, I said nice, like, I really like the character, not the fact she's a nice person.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 25 2012 03:54 GMT
#4540
On October 25 2012 08:45 BlackMagister wrote:
An aside but does anyone else think Monet resembles Nami enough to be her sister or an older version of Nami?

About Mihawk it can be assumed by Mihawk's number 1 swordsman status he does know armament Haki otherwise he would be defenseless vs Logia so I have no idea why Zoro would not be taught it. I wish Oda went more into the 2 year time skip to explain things like Zoro's training/eye and Robin's involvement with Dragon.

Robin dragon will DEFINENTLY be explained when Dragon actually steps up as a character (instead of just being a guy people talk about)

Zoro 100% has armament Haki, why hes not attacking Monet is hard to say maybe Law told him something or Mihawk trained him to be a gentleman

anyone who can chop a ship in half like Zoro did has to know Haki
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