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On January 27 2016 08:15 Incognoto wrote:
It's not annoying it's intringuing actually. Why would you want a written letter to luffy rather than just telling nami what's up.
Clearly the letter conveys information to the straw hats which sanji didn't want capone to hear
like what? its a short simple message, the smart people in the crew have had there hands on it with nothing new gained
honestly it makes me think that when he had sanji disapear he hadnt figured out the details and decided to go with this and then realised he already referenced a note
only other thing i could think of was the 30 seconds it bought him, its not inconvievable that he observed cat boss coming and calculated his moves to kick them out right as he arrived
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Because Oda never puts hidden messages ever in One Piece. Not the X mark in Alabasta, not the 3D2Y thing before the time skip, not Nami saying "you can't beat Shiki, don't come after me" in Strong World, etc etc.
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On January 27 2016 13:19 Sentenal wrote:
Because Oda never puts hidden messages ever in One Piece. Not the X mark in Alabasta, not the 3D2Y thing before the time skip, not Nami saying "you can't beat Shiki, don't come after me" in Strong World, etc etc.
does the strong world on really count? i assumed he only oversaw the movies not wrote them
im not saying its impossible for the note to be a code, but why and how? they were right there, he had a chance to speak before he got carried off and moms crew was in full retreat, what could that small note have that was so dangerous that he couldnt let them possibly know?
and why even right a code when he directly passed it to Nami and then pushed her out to safety? could have just wroten the message plainly?
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On January 27 2016 12:37 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 08:15 Incognoto wrote:
It's not annoying it's intringuing actually. Why would you want a written letter to luffy rather than just telling nami what's up.
Clearly the letter conveys information to the straw hats which sanji didn't want capone to hear like what? its a short simple message, the smart people in the crew have had there hands on it with nothing new gained honestly it makes me think that when he had sanji disapear he hadnt figured out the details and decided to go with this and then realised he already referenced a note only other thing i could think of was the 30 seconds it bought him, its not inconvievable that he observed cat boss coming and calculated his moves to kick them out right as he arrived
lol, Oda not not figuring details a few chapters ahead?
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On January 27 2016 15:25 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 12:37 Forikorder wrote:On January 27 2016 08:15 Incognoto wrote:
It's not annoying it's intringuing actually. Why would you want a written letter to luffy rather than just telling nami what's up.
Clearly the letter conveys information to the straw hats which sanji didn't want capone to hear like what? its a short simple message, the smart people in the crew have had there hands on it with nothing new gained honestly it makes me think that when he had sanji disapear he hadnt figured out the details and decided to go with this and then realised he already referenced a note only other thing i could think of was the 30 seconds it bought him, its not inconvievable that he observed cat boss coming and calculated his moves to kick them out right as he arrived lol, Oda not not figuring details a few chapters ahead?
compare it to alabasta, at the start we knew of baroque works, Crocodile very few secrets
now we have people whispering messages into Sanjis ears and a girl who never got named
would be like if we didnt actually know what Vivi said but instead only got reactions to it
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On January 27 2016 13:32 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 13:19 Sentenal wrote:
Because Oda never puts hidden messages ever in One Piece. Not the X mark in Alabasta, not the 3D2Y thing before the time skip, not Nami saying "you can't beat Shiki, don't come after me" in Strong World, etc etc. does the strong world on really count? i assumed he only oversaw the movies not wrote them im not saying its impossible for the note to be a code, but why and how? they were right there, he had a chance to speak before he got carried off and moms crew was in full retreat, what could that small note have that was so dangerous that he couldnt let them possibly know? and why even right a code when he directly passed it to Nami and then pushed her out to safety? could have just wroten the message plainly?
the english is strong in this post
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On January 27 2016 11:52 Hyperbola wrote:
You know I'm not sure of how I feel about Blackbeard vs. Dragon. It just seems so... wrong story-wise. Look at it this way:
1. Blackbeard is supposedly an "end boss" and really shouldn't be defeated until the end and only by the main character or else all his hype goes to shit and the overall "threat level" goes down. Dragon is also an "end boss" kinda because he seems like he knows a lot about what's going on (void century, gorosei and WG, will of D, maybe one piece?) and it would fit very well for him to be part of the final battle with the government.
So why would these two "end boss" characters fight right now? It seems way too early for them to fit into the storyline. If either dies, I feel like we'd miss out on a lot of content down the road. If neither dies, what is the point?
2. Blackbeard and the Revolutionary army aren't even part of the same story. Think about it. They are part of two separate conflicts: The oppressive world government and nobility vs. the common folk, and good pirates pirates vs. bad pirates.
The whole quest for one piece, the yonku, the worst generation, the luffy vs. blackbeard rivalry are all part of the pirate storyline.
The celestial dragons, the Gorosei, CP0, the revolutionaries, reverie and lost kingdom are part of the political storyline.
You can intersect the two but only at the very end when they actually tie together. Right now, the two storylines are completely separate. It makes zero sense for any major conflict to happen between these two completely unrelated factions as of this point. I just don't get it.
I'd say you assume too much. Plenty of stuff has happened where two parties clash, neither dies, but the story has been developed. I feel that this move would go to show that Blackbeard is not afraid of fighting anyone anymore and him clashing with the Revolutionaries would be a good showcase of his newly found strength (swelled ranks, tons of devil fruits). At least that's the way I see it.
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On January 27 2016 17:52 herMan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 11:52 Hyperbola wrote:
You know I'm not sure of how I feel about Blackbeard vs. Dragon. It just seems so... wrong story-wise. Look at it this way:
1. Blackbeard is supposedly an "end boss" and really shouldn't be defeated until the end and only by the main character or else all his hype goes to shit and the overall "threat level" goes down. Dragon is also an "end boss" kinda because he seems like he knows a lot about what's going on (void century, gorosei and WG, will of D, maybe one piece?) and it would fit very well for him to be part of the final battle with the government.
So why would these two "end boss" characters fight right now? It seems way too early for them to fit into the storyline. If either dies, I feel like we'd miss out on a lot of content down the road. If neither dies, what is the point?
2. Blackbeard and the Revolutionary army aren't even part of the same story. Think about it. They are part of two separate conflicts: The oppressive world government and nobility vs. the common folk, and good pirates pirates vs. bad pirates.
The whole quest for one piece, the yonku, the worst generation, the luffy vs. blackbeard rivalry are all part of the pirate storyline.
The celestial dragons, the Gorosei, CP0, the revolutionaries, reverie and lost kingdom are part of the political storyline.
You can intersect the two but only at the very end when they actually tie together. Right now, the two storylines are completely separate. It makes zero sense for any major conflict to happen between these two completely unrelated factions as of this point. I just don't get it. I'd say you assume too much. Plenty of stuff has happened where two parties clash, neither dies, but the story has been developed. I feel that this move would go to show that Blackbeard is not afraid of fighting anyone anymore and him clashing with the Revolutionaries would be a good showcase of his newly found strength (swelled ranks, tons of devil fruits). At least that's the way I see it.
I kinda agree with his second point abit.
Like Dragon has a separate storyline and so is Blackbeard. They have different focuses and even if this is just for showcase of skills i don't really like if nothing major would happen after their clash, it feels weak if they overlap just for that.
the different storyline point aside .. it's probably just me disliking those events where important characters meet but nothing big happens like nobody dies or no crippling change happens
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Sanji left that note for a reason. Sanji is the crafty one. There is probably a hidden message in it. If I could read Japanese and had the raw, I'd be studying it right now. Unfortunately, dissecting the translation is not really going to help.
I also think it will be good to see more interaction between the pirate world and the revolutionary world. They seem very distinct right now and at some point they're going to have to come together. There have been multiple pirates who belong in both worlds (Robin, XDrake, Jewelry Bonney, Doflamingo, etc), but those connections are mostly only hinted at and we need to see how it all connects before the series is over. Now is a good time to start making those connections so that they don't feel forced in the last arc.
I don't think either side will get wiped out, but there could be key losses or captures that will push the story forward. I think the revolutionary base will be destroyed and the organization will be scattered, which will destroy the local revolutions that are popping up all over the place since they are being supported by the main revolutionary army. After that, Luffy will have to carry the revolution on his back and push it forward by smashing the corrupt (or by freeing a key revolutionary from Blackbeard's hold).
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On January 27 2016 13:32 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 13:19 Sentenal wrote:
Because Oda never puts hidden messages ever in One Piece. Not the X mark in Alabasta, not the 3D2Y thing before the time skip, not Nami saying "you can't beat Shiki, don't come after me" in Strong World, etc etc. does the strong world on really count? i assumed he only oversaw the movies not wrote them im not saying its impossible for the note to be a code, but why and how? they were right there, he had a chance to speak before he got carried off and moms crew was in full retreat, what could that small note have that was so dangerous that he couldnt let them possibly know? and why even right a code when he directly passed it to Nami and then pushed her out to safety? could have just wroten the message plainly?
Strong World and Film Z he both wrote.
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very light and nice chapter, I loved it 
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Nekomamushi is literally Garfield I guess. Them eating habits.
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this chapter is too much for me!
way too much
i'm curious about zoro's remarks though. this sort of feels like zoro when he was talking about usopp before.
could we actually lose a crew-mate?
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On January 28 2016 21:25 Incognoto wrote:
this chapter is too much for me!
way too much
i'm curious about zoro's remarks though. this sort of feels like zoro when he was talking about usopp before.
could we actually lose a crew-mate?
That is just Zoro's way of saying "I trust Sanji to clear up everything on his own and come back"
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alone vs a yonko?
edit: to be fair sanji is needed "alive"
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Austria24417 Posts
Isn't Zoro essentially first mate?
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Nice chapter, a lot of good interaction.
To-the-point-Zoro trusts Sanji to do his thing WITHOUT interrupting the crews final goal which is Luffy to become Pirate King. Everyone in the crew is on the same wavelength, Luffy and then themselves. But then Luffy decides to go to the Tea Party... Everything Zoro just said totally nullified :p Guess Kinemon and Kaido storyline just stepped out of the queue and we will have ourselves a bit of a big battle with Big Mom first. Meanwhile we have to wait and see what happens to Kid-alliance.
Also, Sanjis bride next crewmate confirmed by Luffy, the man himself. It's already been decided.
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France7248 Posts
and everyone who was saying that Sanji was a noble... ^^
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On January 28 2016 22:51 Sableyeah wrote:
Nice chapter, a lot of good interaction.
To-the-point-Zoro trusts Sanji to do his thing WITHOUT interrupting the crews final goal which is Luffy to become Pirate King. Everyone in the crew is on the same wavelength, Luffy and then themselves. But then Luffy decides to go to the Tea Party... Everything Zoro just said totally nullified :p Guess Kinemon and Kaido storyline just stepped out of the queue and we will have ourselves a bit of a big battle with Big Mom first. Meanwhile we have to wait and see what happens to Kid-alliance.
Also, Sanjis bride next crewmate confirmed by Luffy, the man himself. It's already been decided.
she better be a logia lol
On January 28 2016 22:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Isn't Zoro essentially first mate?
Yeah but SH's never put labels and shit aside from the captain and navigator. Hell they are probably the weirdest crew as they treat their own captain as like equal or just like a buddy.
(opps also it looks like i typed sanji instead of zoro lol )
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