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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On January 29 2016 08:37 Hyperbola wrote: They are big players in the underworld. Naturally, they'd have enough money to pull strings. What I'm curious about is the Brook connection. What's he so angsty about? It's probably related to why he used to work for his Kingdom, then became a pirate. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8930 Posts
On January 29 2016 13:53 Hyperbola wrote: No you're absolutely right. The celestial dragons would never ever deal with the underworld especially when they do things like buy slaves from the auction house... The marines also, (you know the guys who issue wanted posters) would never in a million years negotiate with scum like pirates to buy devil fruits or work out a protection deal (especially with fishmen, they're the worst!) You're also 100% right about how there is no politics whatsoever in one piece and how corruption is strictly RL stuff and Oda would never write about, much less base half of his entire series on. I am sorry for ever doubting you. if you lost the sarcastic tone and stopped being a little bitch then maybe id elaborate on my points but tbh now i just cant be fked User was warned for this post | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On January 29 2016 18:59 evilfatsh1t wrote: if you lost the sarcastic tone and stopped being a little bitch then maybe id elaborate on my points but tbh now i just cant be fked Hey sir it's not okay to cyberbully others. Just because you disagree with someone's opinion doesn't mean you get to say bad words at them! But I will be the bigger man and forgive you. User was warned for this post | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6667 Posts
Axe Hand Morgan at the very beginning was a marine who basically over took a town and ruled like a fascist. Doflamingo used his influence and money to do it. The shichibukai system is a complete farce of corruption. Essentially anyone below Akainu and the admirals have proven to be quite easily corruptible or willing to let things slide. Even Aokiji let Robin live twice when the marines wanted her dead, going against direct orders for personal reasons and he was an admiral at the time. Look at it from the higher ups position, either they take the money and make a wanted poster only alive. Or don't get a large sum of money and piss off a noted family of assassins. Pretty easy choice to make if the Vinsmokes are as bad ass as they seem to be. I like the family of assassins more then him being a noble, noble was something guessed at long ago kind predictable and an easy cop out. Assassins make his family much more interesting to me, his brothers are probably going to be really strong and play a role down the line. How he was raised before he presumably ran away could explain his intelligence and tactical thinking in key times. It fits well to me and I like it 100x more. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
The more I think about it, the more it doesn't make sense how Vinsmoke is an Assasins family. And I am not happy about this! | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6667 Posts
On January 30 2016 09:26 Sableyeah wrote: If that's the point I am pretty sure a skilled or famed Assasin family would be able to capture Sanji themselves. If it's not Vinsmoke family that put the 'alive only', it doesn't really make sense. The more I think about it, the more it doesn't make sense how Vinsmoke is an Assasins family. And I am not happy about this! Well a couple reasons could explain why they haven't come for him yet. A) Thinking he was dead. He ran away and got on a ship, even if they found out which ship he got onto, that ship was attacked by Zeff and multiple people saw him go overboard. No reason to really believe he was alive after that. Zeff and him both then led relatively quiet lives as cooks in East Blue, so no news of an old one legged chef and a boy in east blue would really reach the new world. B) They had no use for him until now. Why waste the resources of tracking him down when he doesn't want to be apart of the family. Having to jump the redline and deal with the long travel just to get a bratty kid back doesn't sound like something a family of assassins would care about. Especially with 2 older sons already. Now that they are in talks with big mom about an arranged marriage suddenly finding him becomes a bit more important again, not to mention him being in the new world makes it easier for them to get at him. To me I can find ways that make sense, but I'm biased to the other side, I quite like the family of assassins twist. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On January 30 2016 09:37 Necro)Phagist( wrote: Well a couple reasons could explain why they haven't come for him yet. A) Thinking he was dead. He ran away and got on a ship, that ship was attacked by Zeff and multiple people saw him go overboard. No reason to really believe he was alive after that. Zeff and him both then led relatively quiet lives as cooks in East Blue B) They had no use for him until now. Why waste the resources of tracking him down when he doesn't want to be apart of the family. Having to jump the redline and deal with the long travel just to get a bratty kid back doesn't sound like something a family of assassins would care about. Especially with 2 older sons already. Now that they are in talks with big mom about an arranged marriage suddenly finding him becomes a bit more important again, not to mention him being in the new world makes it easier for them to get at him. To me I can find ways that make sense, but I'm biased to the other side, I quite like the family of assassins twist. Same. Making him some sort of noble would have felt too obvious and also would have made his past a bit too similar to Sabo's. If the assassin family concept is well executed I like it a lot better than the noble idea. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/432s6k/a_certain_someones_family/ From what I understand it's just "hey Vinsmokes traveled to East Blue in the past, these guys appeared in Luffy's past they could be Vinsmokes. That they're observing Caesar's weapons demonstration is further proof as they have underground connections." A stretch, but most One Piece theories are. It is a good catch to connect the characters from Luffy past to the show though. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On January 30 2016 09:37 Necro)Phagist( wrote: Well a couple reasons could explain why they haven't come for him yet. A) Thinking he was dead. He ran away and got on a ship, even if they found out which ship he got onto, that ship was attacked by Zeff and multiple people saw him go overboard. No reason to really believe he was alive after that. Zeff and him both then led relatively quiet lives as cooks in East Blue, so no news of an old one legged chef and a boy in east blue would really reach the new world. B) They had no use for him until now. Why waste the resources of tracking him down when he doesn't want to be apart of the family. Having to jump the redline and deal with the long travel just to get a bratty kid back doesn't sound like something a family of assassins would care about. Especially with 2 older sons already. Now that they are in talks with big mom about an arranged marriage suddenly finding him becomes a bit more important again, not to mention him being in the new world makes it easier for them to get at him. To me I can find ways that make sense, but I'm biased to the other side, I quite like the family of assassins twist. they may ahve almost nothing to do with this even, big mom could be handling the bulk of the legwork tracking him down and setting up the wedding e.t.c | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On January 30 2016 12:02 Hyperbola wrote: Haven't seen this posted here. You think these might be vinsmoke brothers? Wow whoever caught that is really observant | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12816 Posts
On January 30 2016 18:33 Incognoto wrote: Wow whoever caught that is really observant soo... luffy + sabo used to beat them up as kids. they don't seem that strong to me then | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On January 31 2016 04:32 Sentenal wrote: So getting beaten up as a kid means you are weak as an adult? The Coby to become an admiral hype has died. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On January 31 2016 04:32 Sentenal wrote: So getting beaten up as a kid means you are weak as an adult? Luffy was quite weak as a kid. | ||
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terranghost
United States980 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On January 31 2016 05:58 terranghost wrote: The other part that makes this good imo is when we had the rescue Robin arc the SH's were fighting elite assassins... now we are potentially getting that again but with Sanji. Yeah dude the comparison to the water 7 arc is real. Looks like we basically skipped over skypeia (zou). If Oda is actually intending this, it means that we're really nearing the end here. Few arcs from now will be the great war. | ||
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