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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
January 24 2016 09:06 GMT
#24261
On January 24 2016 14:37 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 13:59 LennX wrote:
On January 24 2016 13:53 sumsaR wrote:
Sanji writes he promises to return in his letter. Brook proceed to state that Sanji has no intention of returning. Pessimistic and disbelieving much?


My understanding is that Sanji meant to return eventually when everything is settled. Brook meant that Sanji wont return at that point of time even if they caught up with him.

Yes. But based on what exactly?


Based on him going to check ut a chick
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SupportDotA2
Profile Joined September 2013
Japan307 Posts
January 24 2016 09:23 GMT
#24262
On January 24 2016 14:37 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 13:59 LennX wrote:
On January 24 2016 13:53 sumsaR wrote:
Sanji writes he promises to return in his letter. Brook proceed to state that Sanji has no intention of returning. Pessimistic and disbelieving much?


My understanding is that Sanji meant to return eventually when everything is settled. Brook meant that Sanji wont return at that point of time even if they caught up with him.

Yes. But based on what exactly?

... It was very clear that Sanji meant to settle his personal issue and would leave the crew for while until he finished it. Brook said that even if they chased after the ship and managed to rescue Sanji, he would decline to turn back because he still had unfinished business. So they shouldn't and don't need to chase at all.
Kappa
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
January 24 2016 11:13 GMT
#24263
What I really like is that we get to know more background story of a character, who was part of the story so early on, while not pulling some aizen-level shit out of nowhere claiming all was according to keikakku

We obviously know the most about Luffy, since he's the protagonist. But there are some crewmembers who I'd like to know more about - mostly Zoro & Brook for me. I would love to have a more detailed background story for pretty much all of the SH's tho
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 24 2016 12:36 GMT
#24264
On January 24 2016 14:37 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 13:59 LennX wrote:
On January 24 2016 13:53 sumsaR wrote:
Sanji writes he promises to return in his letter. Brook proceed to state that Sanji has no intention of returning. Pessimistic and disbelieving much?


My understanding is that Sanji meant to return eventually when everything is settled. Brook meant that Sanji wont return at that point of time even if they caught up with him.

Yes. But based on what exactly?

brook believes he wont be allowed to return and forced to stay based on a feeling
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
January 24 2016 15:35 GMT
#24265
On January 24 2016 18:23 SupportDotA2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 14:37 sumsaR wrote:
On January 24 2016 13:59 LennX wrote:
On January 24 2016 13:53 sumsaR wrote:
Sanji writes he promises to return in his letter. Brook proceed to state that Sanji has no intention of returning. Pessimistic and disbelieving much?


My understanding is that Sanji meant to return eventually when everything is settled. Brook meant that Sanji wont return at that point of time even if they caught up with him.

Yes. But based on what exactly?

... It was very clear that Sanji meant to settle his personal issue and would leave the crew for while until he finished it. Brook said that even if they chased after the ship and managed to rescue Sanji, he would decline to turn back because he still had unfinished business. So they shouldn't and don't need to chase at all.

There's a difference between "he'll come back when he's done" and "he won't come back at all". It sounded to me like Brook was refering to the latter, despite Sanji writing the former in his letter. That's my gripe.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
January 24 2016 16:08 GMT
#24266
On January 25 2016 00:35 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 18:23 SupportDotA2 wrote:
On January 24 2016 14:37 sumsaR wrote:
On January 24 2016 13:59 LennX wrote:
On January 24 2016 13:53 sumsaR wrote:
Sanji writes he promises to return in his letter. Brook proceed to state that Sanji has no intention of returning. Pessimistic and disbelieving much?


My understanding is that Sanji meant to return eventually when everything is settled. Brook meant that Sanji wont return at that point of time even if they caught up with him.

Yes. But based on what exactly?

... It was very clear that Sanji meant to settle his personal issue and would leave the crew for while until he finished it. Brook said that even if they chased after the ship and managed to rescue Sanji, he would decline to turn back because he still had unfinished business. So they shouldn't and don't need to chase at all.

There's a difference between "he'll come back when he's done" and "he won't come back at all". It sounded to me like Brook was refering to the latter, despite Sanji writing the former in his letter. That's my gripe.

That's just because of the translation I think. The mangastream version has him say

"No, it's useless! Stop, Wanda-san!" (referring to Wanda asking whether they should chase Bege)
"Even if you were to catch up, he... has no intention... of returning"

Which to me makes it pretty clear that Brook was only talking about the current situation and that there's no point in following Bege because Sanji won't come back willingly atm.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
January 24 2016 16:13 GMT
#24267
Yea it was pretty clear to me the way I read it anyway, that Brook was talking about in this moment.

Could be wrong, maybe the Vinsmoke's did something awful to Brook back in the day and now he has a grudge against Sanji and doesn't want him to come back xD.

I mean Brook before being a pirate was a part of his country's military wasn't he? I thought that was briefly mentioned sometime, I'll have to look it up. So maybe his country fought against or was fucked up by the Vinsmoke's.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 25 2016 03:58 GMT
#24268
i jsut took it as brook had a feeling that whatever sanji was going to do would fail and hed be trapped and unable to return
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-26 02:56:18
January 26 2016 00:48 GMT
#24269
There is this part written in onepiece.wikia but I can't seem to find the panel where Zoro and Luffy react to the note.

onepiece.wikia wrote:
Vito, the Firetank Pirates' advisor, advised Sanji that there will be consequences for refusing Big Mom. He then whispered something into Sanji's ear and Sanji reacted in extreme shock. Sanji was left to wonder how Vito learned this information, and the nature of such was enough to make Sanji decide to be compliant with her invitation. After being given a pen and a paper, Sanji wrote the note and gave it to Nami. He apologized to his crew, explaining it wasn't his intent to hide things from his crew, but he never expected to face this part of his past again, deciding to put an end to it alone. Sensing Nekomamushi nearby and choosing to resolve the marriage issue himself, he threw Nami, Chopper, and Brook out of Bege's body.


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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
January 26 2016 02:18 GMT
#24270
On January 26 2016 09:48 Sableyeah wrote:
There is this part written in onepiece.wikia but I can't seem to find the panel where Zoro and Luffy react to the note.

Show nested quote +
onepiece.wikia wrote:
Vito, the Firetank Pirates' advisor, advised Sanji that there will be consequences for refusing Big Mom. He then whispered something into Sanji's ear and Sanji reacted in extreme shock. Sanji was left to wonder how Vito learned this information, and the nature of such was enough to make Sanji decide to be compliant with her invitation. After being given a pen and a paper, Sanji wrote the note and gave it to Nami. He apologized to his crew, explaining it wasn't his intent to hide things from his crew, but he never expected to face this part of his past again, deciding to put an end to it alone. Sensing Nekomamushi nearby and choosing to resolve the marriage issue himself, he threw Nami, Chopper, and Brook out of Bege's body.

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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5712 Posts
January 26 2016 03:56 GMT
#24271
Newest episode we see Doffy's awakening and what it actually looks like a lot better btw and more gear 4th.
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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
January 26 2016 04:18 GMT
#24272
How much you wanna bet the person he's supposed to get married to was already his fiance and is more of a tom-boy which he dislikes (hence his emphasis on "ladies")?
Sharkey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
668 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-27 07:48:42
January 26 2016 04:34 GMT
#24273
Just listing some possible loose ends that will have a influence on upcoming arcs.

-Kaido saying "It's time to start the world's greatest war" - what does this mean?
-Sanji getting married, Big Mom's tea party
-Edward Weevil looking for Luffy (chapter 802)
-Jack's whereabouts and is Dolfy free??
-Luffy giving a bomb as a gift to big Mom - will this have a role in ensuring Sanji's success or stifle his plans?
-Who is the Vinsmoke family and who are Sanji's brothers (have we seen them?)
-Blackbeard vs Revolutionaries (edited)
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1oo
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal876 Posts
January 26 2016 09:04 GMT
#24274
On January 26 2016 13:34 Sharkey wrote:
Just listing some possible loose ends that will have a influence on upcoming arcs.

-Kaido saying "It's time to start the world's greatest war" - what does this mean?
-Sanji getting married, Big Mom's tea party
-Edward Weevil looking for Luffy (chapter 802)
-Jack's whereabouts and is Dolfy free??
-Luffy giving a bomb as a gift to big Mom - will this have a role in ensuring Sanji's success or stifle his plans?
-Who is the Vinsmoke family and who are Sanji's brothers (have we seen them?)


Your forgetting a big one: Blackbeard vs The Revolutionary Army.
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Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-26 18:07:22
January 26 2016 17:26 GMT
#24275
And probably the most exciting one tbh, dayum just seeing Dragon in action is worth everything honestly at this point being 'The Most Wanted' man. Compare him to Jack with 1M or a Yonkou. That's gonna be one hell of a fight.
Others have pointed out that maybe Cat baws and Dog baws could be 'leaders' in the Revolutionary Army. Luffy might join them in their journey and then things will really get interesting. But let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Hopefully we get a Sanji only story for a few chapters where it all plays out almost as detailed as Ace-Sabo-Luffy backstory. This can get very interesting, seeing how it will be the official introduction of a Yonkou, Big Mom. The Kaido one 'recently' was a rather spectacular one.

Yes, shit is going down soooon!

On January 27 2016 02:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 00:43 Ysellian wrote:
On January 22 2016 21:56 sharkie wrote:
On January 22 2016 19:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I like that castle guy is doing something relevant. I always thought he was the most "meh" of the Supernovas.

Go Castle Guy.


You just right now described why One Piece is leagues above any other Shonen.
Any other Shonen would give us also the Supernovas for hype and then forget them later on.

Oda makes each single one relevant at some point or the other

Also Sanji, while being the weakest out of the monster trio is by far the smartest of them.
Sanji has always used his brain (when women were not involved) and saved the SH a few times with it already.


Ugh so true, especially Naruto. Lets hype all these guys up and lets not involve them in any meaningful way ever again! So much Fodder too.



not true, orochimaru and akatsuki were hype AF


Start of Shipuuden is good, what you all on about :p Let's talk about One Piece here.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 26 2016 17:30 GMT
#24276
On January 24 2016 00:43 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 21:56 sharkie wrote:
On January 22 2016 19:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I like that castle guy is doing something relevant. I always thought he was the most "meh" of the Supernovas.

Go Castle Guy.


You just right now described why One Piece is leagues above any other Shonen.
Any other Shonen would give us also the Supernovas for hype and then forget them later on.

Oda makes each single one relevant at some point or the other

Also Sanji, while being the weakest out of the monster trio is by far the smartest of them.
Sanji has always used his brain (when women were not involved) and saved the SH a few times with it already.


Ugh so true, especially Naruto. Lets hype all these guys up and lets not involve them in any meaningful way ever again! So much Fodder too.



not true, orochimaru and akatsuki were hype AF
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-26 20:17:58
January 26 2016 20:14 GMT
#24277
Even if Dragon does have the highest bounty I'm guessing it's going to reflect more of his Revolutionary status than his ability as a fighter. Dragon is the "most wanted man" because he directly opposes the World Government, I'm sure Dragon will turn out to be a really strong fighter, but he could be weak and still be the most wanted man.

It also wouldn't be strange for Robin to have higher bounty than Luffy, but it would confuse readers as One Piece uses bounties as power levels too often.

As for forgotten plot lines we still haven't addressed all the Wano character plot lines of why Kaido wants Raizo, Momon's fear of DD and Kinemon's mission.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 26 2016 21:56 GMT
#24278
anyone else think its annoying he left a note when the crew members were right there? him leaving a note implys that he just disapeared in the night like in water seven instead his reasons for leaving are explained to the crew who see him leave
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
January 26 2016 23:15 GMT
#24279
It's not annoying it's intringuing actually. Why would you want a written letter to luffy rather than just telling nami what's up.

Clearly the letter conveys information to the straw hats which sanji didn't want capone to hear
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
January 27 2016 02:52 GMT
#24280
You know I'm not sure of how I feel about Blackbeard vs. Dragon. It just seems so... wrong story-wise. Look at it this way:

1. Blackbeard is supposedly an "end boss" and really shouldn't be defeated until the end and only by the main character or else all his hype goes to shit and the overall "threat level" goes down. Dragon is also an "end boss" kinda because he seems like he knows a lot about what's going on (void century, gorosei and WG, will of D, maybe one piece?) and it would fit very well for him to be part of the final battle with the government.
So why would these two "end boss" characters fight right now? It seems way too early for them to fit into the storyline. If either dies, I feel like we'd miss out on a lot of content down the road. If neither dies, what is the point?

2. Blackbeard and the Revolutionary army aren't even part of the same story. Think about it. They are part of two separate conflicts: The oppressive world government and nobility vs. the common folk, and good pirates pirates vs. bad pirates.
The whole quest for one piece, the yonku, the worst generation, the luffy vs. blackbeard rivalry are all part of the pirate storyline.
The celestial dragons, the Gorosei, CP0, the revolutionaries, reverie and lost kingdom are part of the political storyline.
You can intersect the two but only at the very end when they actually tie together. Right now, the two storylines are completely separate. It makes zero sense for any major conflict to happen between these two completely unrelated factions as of this point. I just don't get it.
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