Finally got around to watch this old gem recently.. Turned out very entertaining and heart-warming at times. The acting felt brilliant in my humble opinion with such a fun interaction between nurse Ratched and McMurphy, who felt like Nicholson's role of his lifetime.
This is supposed to be a sarcastic rhetorical question right? Just in the alt rock noise genre alone: Sonic Youth >>>>> Pixies
In fact Sonic Youth has actually made soundtracks for movies.
Haha yeah not to derail the thread too much. Of course there are better bands then The Pixies, but Sonic Youth's doesn't really match up with them, Sonic Youth sounded dated back in the 90s, now they just sound ancient. Pixies "Debaser" or "Monkey Gone To Heaven," still sound amazing. Hell, there last 3 albums are about perfect. Dont get me wrong Youth are awesome, but not vs The Pixies.
As for the 70s Nicholson... Chinatown really is a perfect movie, much better than The Godfather(s). corumjhaelen complains about overrated movies...
After seeing Chinatown I agree: it is better than the Godfather.
How can you compare two movies that are trying to accomplish different things? One's noir; the other is a mob film. They're both great in their respective genres.
On August 04 2013 23:13 Dirkzor wrote: I just watched "Side Effects". That was weird. I started out by being a critique of the psychological medicine industry and the way that "pills cure everything". Then it flips and becomes a hollywood thriller...
It wasn't boring in any sense and both parts worked. It was just a weird mix. Add in a lesbian theme to make it even more weird...
For me the twist was dissapointing. Not only i saw it coming from a mile, but the call on the medicine industry theme happened to be thousand of times more interesting to me than watching something you can find in thousands of movies.
Only god forgives
I like the scenes. I like the music. But the story/characters were for me the weak spot.
Finally got around to watch this old gem recently.. Turned out very entertaining and heart-warming at times. The acting felt brilliant in my humble opinion with such a fun interaction between nurse Ratched and McMurphy, who felt like Nicholson's role of his lifetime.
This is supposed to be a sarcastic rhetorical question right? Just in the alt rock noise genre alone: Sonic Youth >>>>> Pixies
In fact Sonic Youth has actually made soundtracks for movies.
Haha yeah not to derail the thread too much. Of course there are better bands then The Pixies, but Sonic Youth's doesn't really match up with them, Sonic Youth sounded dated back in the 90s, now they just sound ancient. Pixies "Debaser" or "Monkey Gone To Heaven," still sound amazing. Hell, there last 3 albums are about perfect. Dont get me wrong Youth are awesome, but not vs The Pixies.
As for the 70s Nicholson... Chinatown really is a perfect movie, much better than The Godfather(s). corumjhaelen complains about overrated movies...
After seeing Chinatown I agree: it is better than the Godfather.
How can you compare two movies that are trying to accomplish different things? One's noir; the other is a mob film. They're both great in their respective genres.
You could put them both in the "Crime Drama" genre. Chinatown is just a smarter and more influential film.
Just saw The Wolverine. It was better than I thought it would be. I didn't really enjoy the giant metal samurai at the end though.
Finally got around to watch this old gem recently.. Turned out very entertaining and heart-warming at times. The acting felt brilliant in my humble opinion with such a fun interaction between nurse Ratched and McMurphy, who felt like Nicholson's role of his lifetime.
This is supposed to be a sarcastic rhetorical question right? Just in the alt rock noise genre alone: Sonic Youth >>>>> Pixies
In fact Sonic Youth has actually made soundtracks for movies.
Haha yeah not to derail the thread too much. Of course there are better bands then The Pixies, but Sonic Youth's doesn't really match up with them, Sonic Youth sounded dated back in the 90s, now they just sound ancient. Pixies "Debaser" or "Monkey Gone To Heaven," still sound amazing. Hell, there last 3 albums are about perfect. Dont get me wrong Youth are awesome, but not vs The Pixies.
As for the 70s Nicholson... Chinatown really is a perfect movie, much better than The Godfather(s). corumjhaelen complains about overrated movies...
After seeing Chinatown I agree: it is better than the Godfather.
How can you compare two movies that are trying to accomplish different things? One's noir; the other is a mob film. They're both great in their respective genres.
You could put them both in the "Crime Drama" genre. Chinatown is just a smarter and more influential film.
Just saw The Wolverine. It was better than I thought it would be. I didn't really enjoy the giant metal samurai at the end though.
You COULD do that, but that'd be pretty silly, just like saying that Chinatown is the more influential film. How do you even go about qualifying that statement?
Isn't the RIPD the exact same premise as Men in Black? An opening scene with a young officer facing a new "reality" (Will Smith discovers the man he's pursuing is an alien; Ryan Reynolds falls to his death and enters the afterlife), joining a super-secret agency that fights rogue aliens/spirits and protects humans from any knowledge? Being paired with a salty, older partner? I mean... really.
Finally got around to watch this old gem recently.. Turned out very entertaining and heart-warming at times. The acting felt brilliant in my humble opinion with such a fun interaction between nurse Ratched and McMurphy, who felt like Nicholson's role of his lifetime.
This is supposed to be a sarcastic rhetorical question right? Just in the alt rock noise genre alone: Sonic Youth >>>>> Pixies
In fact Sonic Youth has actually made soundtracks for movies.
Haha yeah not to derail the thread too much. Of course there are better bands then The Pixies, but Sonic Youth's doesn't really match up with them, Sonic Youth sounded dated back in the 90s, now they just sound ancient. Pixies "Debaser" or "Monkey Gone To Heaven," still sound amazing. Hell, there last 3 albums are about perfect. Dont get me wrong Youth are awesome, but not vs The Pixies.
As for the 70s Nicholson... Chinatown really is a perfect movie, much better than The Godfather(s). corumjhaelen complains about overrated movies...
After seeing Chinatown I agree: it is better than the Godfather.
How can you compare two movies that are trying to accomplish different things? One's noir; the other is a mob film. They're both great in their respective genres.
You could put them both in the "Crime Drama" genre. Chinatown is just a smarter and more influential film.
Just saw The Wolverine. It was better than I thought it would be. I didn't really enjoy the giant metal samurai at the end though.
You COULD do that, but that'd be pretty silly, just like saying that Chinatown is the more influential film. How do you even go about qualifying that statement?
Well, Robert Townes screenplay is almost unanimously regarded as the best screen play ever written and his style has been copied even to this day, (LA Confidential, Memento, Se7en, Drive,) with his less is more approach. Chinatown single handily started the neo noir genre. The Godfather did what? Start that annoying orange filter crazy?
Finally got around to watch this old gem recently.. Turned out very entertaining and heart-warming at times. The acting felt brilliant in my humble opinion with such a fun interaction between nurse Ratched and McMurphy, who felt like Nicholson's role of his lifetime.
This is supposed to be a sarcastic rhetorical question right? Just in the alt rock noise genre alone: Sonic Youth >>>>> Pixies
In fact Sonic Youth has actually made soundtracks for movies.
Haha yeah not to derail the thread too much. Of course there are better bands then The Pixies, but Sonic Youth's doesn't really match up with them, Sonic Youth sounded dated back in the 90s, now they just sound ancient. Pixies "Debaser" or "Monkey Gone To Heaven," still sound amazing. Hell, there last 3 albums are about perfect. Dont get me wrong Youth are awesome, but not vs The Pixies.
As for the 70s Nicholson... Chinatown really is a perfect movie, much better than The Godfather(s). corumjhaelen complains about overrated movies...
After seeing Chinatown I agree: it is better than the Godfather.
How can you compare two movies that are trying to accomplish different things? One's noir; the other is a mob film. They're both great in their respective genres.
You could put them both in the "Crime Drama" genre. Chinatown is just a smarter and more influential film.
Just saw The Wolverine. It was better than I thought it would be. I didn't really enjoy the giant metal samurai at the end though.
You COULD do that, but that'd be pretty silly, just like saying that Chinatown is the more influential film. How do you even go about qualifying that statement?
Well, Robert Townes screenplay is almost unanimously regarded as the best screen play ever written and his style has been copied even to this day, (LA Confidential, Memento, Se7en, Drive,) with his less is more approach. Chinatown single handily started the neo noir genre. The Godfather did what? Start that annoying orange filter crazy?
Yeah, I guess the American Film Institute ranking it the 2nd greatest American film means nothing, nor do Casino, Donny Brasco, or Goodfellas. Go ahead and read this if you are really as unaware as your question suggests. "The Godfather" and the Mafia in Popular Culture
Finally got around to watch this old gem recently.. Turned out very entertaining and heart-warming at times. The acting felt brilliant in my humble opinion with such a fun interaction between nurse Ratched and McMurphy, who felt like Nicholson's role of his lifetime.
This is supposed to be a sarcastic rhetorical question right? Just in the alt rock noise genre alone: Sonic Youth >>>>> Pixies
In fact Sonic Youth has actually made soundtracks for movies.
Haha yeah not to derail the thread too much. Of course there are better bands then The Pixies, but Sonic Youth's doesn't really match up with them, Sonic Youth sounded dated back in the 90s, now they just sound ancient. Pixies "Debaser" or "Monkey Gone To Heaven," still sound amazing. Hell, there last 3 albums are about perfect. Dont get me wrong Youth are awesome, but not vs The Pixies.
As for the 70s Nicholson... Chinatown really is a perfect movie, much better than The Godfather(s). corumjhaelen complains about overrated movies...
After seeing Chinatown I agree: it is better than the Godfather.
How can you compare two movies that are trying to accomplish different things? One's noir; the other is a mob film. They're both great in their respective genres.
You could put them both in the "Crime Drama" genre. Chinatown is just a smarter and more influential film.
Just saw The Wolverine. It was better than I thought it would be. I didn't really enjoy the giant metal samurai at the end though.
You COULD do that, but that'd be pretty silly, just like saying that Chinatown is the more influential film. How do you even go about qualifying that statement?
Well, Robert Townes screenplay is almost unanimously regarded as the best screen play ever written and his style has been copied even to this day, (LA Confidential, Memento, Se7en, Drive,) with his less is more approach. Chinatown single handily started the neo noir genre. The Godfather did what? Start that annoying orange filter crazy?
Yeah, I guess the American Film Institute ranking it the 2nd greatest American film means nothing, nor do Casino, Donny Brasco, or Goodfellas. Go ahead and read this if you are really as unaware as your question suggests. "The Godfather" and the Mafia in Popular Culture
Influence debates are dumb.
AFI lists are nothing to go from. Anyways It's pointless to argue anything with regards to movie lists since nostalgia wins over actual film merit.
Star Wars over 2001? Sunset Boulevard over Chinatown? Some Like It Hot over Dr. Strangelove?
I mean do Shane and High Noon really stand a chance against There Will Be Blood?
Finally got around to watch this old gem recently.. Turned out very entertaining and heart-warming at times. The acting felt brilliant in my humble opinion with such a fun interaction between nurse Ratched and McMurphy, who felt like Nicholson's role of his lifetime.
This is supposed to be a sarcastic rhetorical question right? Just in the alt rock noise genre alone: Sonic Youth >>>>> Pixies
In fact Sonic Youth has actually made soundtracks for movies.
Haha yeah not to derail the thread too much. Of course there are better bands then The Pixies, but Sonic Youth's doesn't really match up with them, Sonic Youth sounded dated back in the 90s, now they just sound ancient. Pixies "Debaser" or "Monkey Gone To Heaven," still sound amazing. Hell, there last 3 albums are about perfect. Dont get me wrong Youth are awesome, but not vs The Pixies.
As for the 70s Nicholson... Chinatown really is a perfect movie, much better than The Godfather(s). corumjhaelen complains about overrated movies...
After seeing Chinatown I agree: it is better than the Godfather.
How can you compare two movies that are trying to accomplish different things? One's noir; the other is a mob film. They're both great in their respective genres.
You could put them both in the "Crime Drama" genre. Chinatown is just a smarter and more influential film.
Just saw The Wolverine. It was better than I thought it would be. I didn't really enjoy the giant metal samurai at the end though.
Smarter in what way? If they were both trying to accomplish the same thing, then it'd be easier to discuss that. But there is nothing similar between the two theme-wise or anything substantial for that matter. Also, it's impossible to really say whether one film has had more influence than the other. How the hell do you measure that? I'd also be hard-pressed to say the Godfather's only influence on modern cinema is "annoying orange filter."
Just admit you are talking out of your ass and trying to rationalize why you like one film over the other. Stating an opinion is one thing, but to say something is objectively better than the other for bullshit reasons is something else.
On August 05 2013 05:46 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Isn't the RIPD the exact same premise as Men in Black? An opening scene with a young officer facing a new "reality" (Will Smith discovers the man he's pursuing is an alien; Ryan Reynolds falls to his death and enters the afterlife), joining a super-secret agency that fights rogue aliens/spirits and protects humans from any knowledge? Being paired with a salty, older partner? I mean... really.
No. Just because you can make broad comparisons doesn't mean that they have the exact same premise. By that logic, you could say that half the comic movies have the exact same premise because they start off with a character, they have some kind of accident/misfortune which results in them getting powers, they experiment with the powers, a bad guy shows up, they fight and the bad guy wins, the bad guy has some plan to destroy everything, they fight again and the hero wins at the last second and saves everyone.
Also, they make no great effort in RIPD to protect people from any knowledge, and every movie ever that involves a cop getting a new partner has the two of them having contrasting personalities.
On August 05 2013 05:46 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Isn't the RIPD the exact same premise as Men in Black? An opening scene with a young officer facing a new "reality" (Will Smith discovers the man he's pursuing is an alien; Ryan Reynolds falls to his death and enters the afterlife), joining a super-secret agency that fights rogue aliens/spirits and protects humans from any knowledge? Being paired with a salty, older partner? I mean... really.
No. Just because you can make broad comparisons doesn't mean that they have the exact same premise. By that logic, you could say that half the comic movies have the exact same premise because they start off with a character, they have some kind of accident/misfortune which results in them getting powers, they experiment with the powers, a bad guy shows up, they fight and the bad guy wins, the bad guy has some plan to destroy everything, they fight again and the hero wins at the last second and saves everyone.
Also, they make no great effort in RIPD to protect people from any knowledge, and every movie ever that involves a cop getting a new partner has the two of them having contrasting personalities.
For anyone that has seen The Wolverine, should I watch the other movies first or would it be ok to go in not having seen any of the X-Men movies since the one that came out in 2006?
Some friends are going to see it tonight and I don't know if I want to go or not because of this.
On August 05 2013 05:46 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Isn't the RIPD the exact same premise as Men in Black? An opening scene with a young officer facing a new "reality" (Will Smith discovers the man he's pursuing is an alien; Ryan Reynolds falls to his death and enters the afterlife), joining a super-secret agency that fights rogue aliens/spirits and protects humans from any knowledge? Being paired with a salty, older partner? I mean... really.
No. Just because you can make broad comparisons doesn't mean that they have the exact same premise. By that logic, you could say that half the comic movies have the exact same premise because they start off with a character, they have some kind of accident/misfortune which results in them getting powers, they experiment with the powers, a bad guy shows up, they fight and the bad guy wins, the bad guy has some plan to destroy everything, they fight again and the hero wins at the last second and saves everyone.
Also, they make no great effort in RIPD to protect people from any knowledge, and every movie ever that involves a cop getting a new partner has the two of them having contrasting personalities.
Finally got around to watch this old gem recently.. Turned out very entertaining and heart-warming at times. The acting felt brilliant in my humble opinion with such a fun interaction between nurse Ratched and McMurphy, who felt like Nicholson's role of his lifetime.
This is supposed to be a sarcastic rhetorical question right? Just in the alt rock noise genre alone: Sonic Youth >>>>> Pixies
In fact Sonic Youth has actually made soundtracks for movies.
Haha yeah not to derail the thread too much. Of course there are better bands then The Pixies, but Sonic Youth's doesn't really match up with them, Sonic Youth sounded dated back in the 90s, now they just sound ancient. Pixies "Debaser" or "Monkey Gone To Heaven," still sound amazing. Hell, there last 3 albums are about perfect. Dont get me wrong Youth are awesome, but not vs The Pixies.
As for the 70s Nicholson... Chinatown really is a perfect movie, much better than The Godfather(s). corumjhaelen complains about overrated movies...
After seeing Chinatown I agree: it is better than the Godfather.
How can you compare two movies that are trying to accomplish different things? One's noir; the other is a mob film. They're both great in their respective genres.
You could put them both in the "Crime Drama" genre. Chinatown is just a smarter and more influential film.
Just saw The Wolverine. It was better than I thought it would be. I didn't really enjoy the giant metal samurai at the end though.
Smarter in what way? If they were both trying to accomplish the same thing, then it'd be easier to discuss that. But there is nothing similar between the two theme-wise or anything substantial for that matter. Also, it's impossible to really say whether one film has had more influence than the other. How the hell do you measure that? I'd also be hard-pressed to say the Godfather's only influence on modern cinema is "annoying orange filter."
Just admit you are talking out of your ass and trying to rationalize why you like one film over the other. Stating an opinion is one thing, but to say something is objectively better than the other for bullshit reasons is something else.
That's kind of the point no? In Chinatown, each scene, starting with the intro you have to pay attention to every detail. If you don't, you won't understand the next scene. Also, Polanski is one of those directors who makes every scene important, there are no side stories that take away from the main plot.
The biggest complaint against the Godfathers is that they are full of one note characters. Sonny is mad all the time. Fredo is weak. Hagen is loyal. None of the characters do anything surprising. And that orange tint makes everything seem like your watching it through a dirty kitchen sink. + Show Spoiler +
Is this Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4? Do they know that there are more colors than just orange, brown and dark brown? Polanski was pressured to do the filter... According to his autobiography, Polanski was extremely upset when he got the dailies back from the processing lab, especially the first batch because the film contained a red-orange tint. Polanski found out that it was Evans who ordered this, and Polanski immediately contacted the lab and corrected the situation. In his book, Polanski states that "The orange-red tint was awful. Los Angeles didn't look like that and I would be damned if my film would."
Finally got around to watch this old gem recently.. Turned out very entertaining and heart-warming at times. The acting felt brilliant in my humble opinion with such a fun interaction between nurse Ratched and McMurphy, who felt like Nicholson's role of his lifetime.
This is supposed to be a sarcastic rhetorical question right? Just in the alt rock noise genre alone: Sonic Youth >>>>> Pixies
In fact Sonic Youth has actually made soundtracks for movies.
Haha yeah not to derail the thread too much. Of course there are better bands then The Pixies, but Sonic Youth's doesn't really match up with them, Sonic Youth sounded dated back in the 90s, now they just sound ancient. Pixies "Debaser" or "Monkey Gone To Heaven," still sound amazing. Hell, there last 3 albums are about perfect. Dont get me wrong Youth are awesome, but not vs The Pixies.
As for the 70s Nicholson... Chinatown really is a perfect movie, much better than The Godfather(s). corumjhaelen complains about overrated movies...
After seeing Chinatown I agree: it is better than the Godfather.
How can you compare two movies that are trying to accomplish different things? One's noir; the other is a mob film. They're both great in their respective genres.
You could put them both in the "Crime Drama" genre. Chinatown is just a smarter and more influential film.
Just saw The Wolverine. It was better than I thought it would be. I didn't really enjoy the giant metal samurai at the end though.
Smarter in what way? If they were both trying to accomplish the same thing, then it'd be easier to discuss that. But there is nothing similar between the two theme-wise or anything substantial for that matter. Also, it's impossible to really say whether one film has had more influence than the other. How the hell do you measure that? I'd also be hard-pressed to say the Godfather's only influence on modern cinema is "annoying orange filter."
Just admit you are talking out of your ass and trying to rationalize why you like one film over the other. Stating an opinion is one thing, but to say something is objectively better than the other for bullshit reasons is something else.
That's kind of the point no? In Chinatown, each scene, starting with the intro you have to pay attention to every detail. If you don't, you won't understand the next scene. Also, Polanski is one of those directors who makes every scene important, there are no side stories that take away from the main plot.
The biggest complaint against the Godfathers is that they are full of one note characters. Sonny is mad all the time. Fredo is weak. Hagen is loyal. None of the characters do anything surprising. And that orange tint makes everything seem like your watching it through a dirty kitchen sink. + Show Spoiler +
Is this Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4? Do they know that there are more colors than just orange, brown and dark brown? Polanski was pressured to do the filter... According to his autobiography, Polanski was extremely upset when he got the dailies back from the processing lab, especially the first batch because the film contained a red-orange tint. Polanski found out that it was Evans who ordered this, and Polanski immediately contacted the lab and corrected the situation. In his book, Polanski states that "The orange-red tint was awful. Los Angeles didn't look like that and I would be damned if my film would."
Judging by the vehemence with which you are responding to the amber tinting of all things, I'm inclined to think that your viewing of The Godfather is somewhat less than objective, though the same can be said for all people, which is why these sorts of debates are ultimately best left to some film magazine or forum. I can assure you that, contrary to the tastes of Roman Polanski, there are a great many people in Hollywood in addition to the movie going public that consider The Godfather a seminal work in American move-making despite it's red-orange tint. Now don't get me wrong, these people may all be full of shit and have terrible taste, but the question at hand here is in terms of influence, and with that as the criteria, The Godfather almost certainly edges out Chinatown or it all ends up a total wash, a mere question of preference rather than objectivity.
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