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kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
May 13 2013 17:06 GMT
#16461
It's so, so hard to take Orell seriously, given his, you know, background.
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FREEloss_ca
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada603 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 17:22:53
May 13 2013 17:07 GMT
#16462
On May 14 2013 01:56 foxmeep wrote:
This season is honestly slow as shit, practically nothing progresses between one episode to the next. There hasn't been a single episode where you've been like holy shit I want to see what happens in the next (unlike in the previous two seasons).

The number of repeated or "extensions" to scenes is pretty damn pointless. Doesn't add to the story, doesn't add to the characters. Pretty much seems like it's getting the Hobbit treatment now (more content = more $$$).


Or maybe they're trying to follow the novel it's based on? Season 2 had several slow episodes leading up to the Battle of Blackwater. There's only three episodes left in the season. Episode 9 will most likely be the climax, with Ep.10 being the falling action, with cliffhangers for next season.

You also have to keep in mind they've split the 3rd book into two seasons. Perhaps they're saving all the action for Season 4. But then again, they never show many battles in this show for what I assumed to be budget reasons. In season 2 they neglected to show us three battles between Robb's army and the Lannisters, but then gave us the Battle of Blackwater at the end of the season. Plus this story is about people, not explosions and battles.

Maybe this just isn't the show for you. I personally enjoyed the Joffrey and Tywin scene last episode as much as I would any battle/sword fight scene.
"Starcraft...It just echos brilliance and manliness." - Tasteless
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
May 13 2013 17:08 GMT
#16463
On May 14 2013 01:56 foxmeep wrote:
This season is honestly slow as shit, practically nothing progresses between one episode to the next. There hasn't been a single episode where you've been like holy shit I want to see what happens in the next (unlike in the previous two seasons).

The number of repeated or "extensions" to scenes is pretty damn pointless. Doesn't add to the story, doesn't add to the characters. Pretty much seems like it's getting the Hobbit treatment now (more content = more $$$).


Oh man for a second I thought I was in a thread about a Vin Diesel movie, what with you complaining that the show actually has pacing and develops characters in ways other than EPIC CLIFFHANGERS!!11! every episode. Something epic can't happen every episode otherwise it would stop being epic. There's so much intrigue going on in this show right now and so much subtle stuff that I'm having a blast watching it. I'm loving watching characters develop in their own ways and letting it build up. You may or may not know this, but we have a spoiler thread for the books of this series. Because this show is based off a book. And books, unlike most TV shows today, have pacing.

It's refreshing, honestly. It's nice to have a breather between the epic moments.
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
May 13 2013 17:11 GMT
#16464
On May 14 2013 02:04 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 01:56 foxmeep wrote:
This season is honestly slow as shit, practically nothing progresses between one episode to the next. There hasn't been a single episode where you've been like holy shit I want to see what happens in the next (unlike in the previous two seasons).

And thank fucking god for that! A show that desperately tries to keep your attention by throwing cliffhangers and "holy shit" moments just for the sake of having holy shit moments at you would be far worse. Just watch LOST if you want to know what I'm talking about.


Everything J. J. Abrams has been involved with has been like that. After about half a season of Alias I'd had enough. I think there's plenty of interesting arcs though that I really want to know what's happening with, like Jaqen was there for half a season and then just vanished, gief more of that, or what happens with Jaime when he does manage to get some stability and has to learn to fight with his left hand, or maybe he's just done fighting or something.
Obscure
Profile Joined July 2008
United States272 Posts
May 13 2013 17:13 GMT
#16465
I haven't read the books and the "slowness" of the show doesn't bother me one bit. I love the world, the characters and their interactions. Dialogue scenes are often more entertaining than your typical action scenes from other shows. For me it just makes the inevitable action and ultimate consequences all the more impactful.

On a side note, nice to see Little Bart the Bear getting some quality acting work His Dad was a boss.
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge" - Daniel J. Boorstin
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
May 13 2013 17:16 GMT
#16466
On May 14 2013 02:13 Obscure wrote:
I haven't read the books and the "slowness" of the show doesn't bother me one bit. I love the world, the characters and their interactions. Dialogue scenes are often more entertaining than your typical action scenes from other shows. For me it just makes the inevitable action and ultimate consequences all the more impactful.

On a side note, nice to see Little Bart the Bear getting some quality acting work His Dad was a boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAOc3mKWzyo


Was?

D:
Obscure
Profile Joined July 2008
United States272 Posts
May 13 2013 17:20 GMT
#16467
On May 14 2013 02:16 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 02:13 Obscure wrote:
I haven't read the books and the "slowness" of the show doesn't bother me one bit. I love the world, the characters and their interactions. Dialogue scenes are often more entertaining than your typical action scenes from other shows. For me it just makes the inevitable action and ultimate consequences all the more impactful.

On a side note, nice to see Little Bart the Bear getting some quality acting work His Dad was a boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAOc3mKWzyo


Was?

D:

Bart the Bear died of cancer in 2000. His son, Little Bart, was in last nights episode.
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge" - Daniel J. Boorstin
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 01:04:08
May 13 2013 17:22 GMT
#16468
Rains of Castamere at the end when Jaime got what he wanted was a very good extra effect on that scene, right after he said that he was sorry about the sapphires. And I think it was sync with the "and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere" part of the song.
JD is BONJWA!
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 17:23:41
May 13 2013 17:23 GMT
#16469
Inside the Episode #7!
+ Show Spoiler +


And Episode #8 Preview!
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FREEloss_ca
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada603 Posts
May 13 2013 17:23 GMT
#16470
On May 14 2013 02:22 GWdeathscythe wrote:
Rains of Castamere in the end when Jaime got what he wanted was a very good extra efect on that scene, right after he said that he was sorry about the sapphires. And I think it was sync with the "and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere" part of the song.


Nice observation!
"Starcraft...It just echos brilliance and manliness." - Tasteless
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 18:01:20
May 13 2013 17:32 GMT
#16471
On May 14 2013 02:08 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 01:56 foxmeep wrote:
This season is honestly slow as shit, practically nothing progresses between one episode to the next. There hasn't been a single episode where you've been like holy shit I want to see what happens in the next (unlike in the previous two seasons).

The number of repeated or "extensions" to scenes is pretty damn pointless. Doesn't add to the story, doesn't add to the characters. Pretty much seems like it's getting the Hobbit treatment now (more content = more $$$).


Oh man for a second I thought I was in a thread about a Vin Diesel movie, what with you complaining that the show actually has pacing and develops characters in ways other than EPIC CLIFFHANGERS!!11! every episode. Something epic can't happen every episode otherwise it would stop being epic. There's so much intrigue going on in this show right now and so much subtle stuff that I'm having a blast watching it. I'm loving watching characters develop in their own ways and letting it build up. You may or may not know this, but we have a spoiler thread for the books of this series. Because this show is based off a book. And books, unlike most TV shows today, have pacing.

It's refreshing, honestly. It's nice to have a breather between the epic moments.


A 7 episode breather. It's a 10 episode season, it should be treated as such. You want book pacing and in-depth character development... that's probably what the book is for.

For a TV show, the amount of revisited scenes or scenes that extend through 2-3 episodes with absolutely no progression in the story is frankly boring as shit. The progression of the story and character development was far better in seasons 1 and 2.


On May 14 2013 02:07 FREEloss_ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 01:56 foxmeep wrote:
This season is honestly slow as shit, practically nothing progresses between one episode to the next. There hasn't been a single episode where you've been like holy shit I want to see what happens in the next (unlike in the previous two seasons).

The number of repeated or "extensions" to scenes is pretty damn pointless. Doesn't add to the story, doesn't add to the characters. Pretty much seems like it's getting the Hobbit treatment now (more content = more $$$).


Or maybe they're trying to follow the novel it's based on? Season 2 had several slow episodes leading up to the Battle of Blackwater. There's only three episodes left in the season. Episode 9 will most likely be the climax, with Ep.10 being the falling action, with cliffhangers for next season.

You also have to keep in mind they've split the 3rd book into two seasons. Perhaps they're saving all the action for Season 4. But then again, they never show many battles in this show for what I assumed to be budget reasons. In season 2 they neglected to show us three battles between Robb's army and the Lannisters, but then gave us the Battle of Blackwater at the end of the season. Plus this story is about people, not explosions and battles.

Maybe this just isn't the show for you. I personally enjoyed the Joffrey and Tywin scene last episode as much as I would any battle/sword fight scene.


It's not the lack of action that bothers me. It's the lack of progression in the plot.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
May 13 2013 17:33 GMT
#16472
They obviously want Lost.
Skol
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
May 13 2013 17:33 GMT
#16473
On May 14 2013 02:20 Obscure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 02:16 Fruscainte wrote:
On May 14 2013 02:13 Obscure wrote:
I haven't read the books and the "slowness" of the show doesn't bother me one bit. I love the world, the characters and their interactions. Dialogue scenes are often more entertaining than your typical action scenes from other shows. For me it just makes the inevitable action and ultimate consequences all the more impactful.

On a side note, nice to see Little Bart the Bear getting some quality acting work His Dad was a boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAOc3mKWzyo


Was?

D:

Bart the Bear died of cancer in 2000. His son, Little Bart, was in last nights episode.

Little bart was not Bart the bears actual cub, just an adopted bear they named for him.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Obscure
Profile Joined July 2008
United States272 Posts
May 13 2013 17:43 GMT
#16474
On May 14 2013 02:33 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 02:20 Obscure wrote:
On May 14 2013 02:16 Fruscainte wrote:
On May 14 2013 02:13 Obscure wrote:
I haven't read the books and the "slowness" of the show doesn't bother me one bit. I love the world, the characters and their interactions. Dialogue scenes are often more entertaining than your typical action scenes from other shows. For me it just makes the inevitable action and ultimate consequences all the more impactful.

On a side note, nice to see Little Bart the Bear getting some quality acting work His Dad was a boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAOc3mKWzyo


Was?

D:

Bart the Bear died of cancer in 2000. His son, Little Bart, was in last nights episode.

Little bart was not Bart the bears actual cub, just an adopted bear they named for him.

Oops, right you are.
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge" - Daniel J. Boorstin
Velouria
Profile Joined May 2013
United States78 Posts
May 13 2013 17:48 GMT
#16475
Snows relationship is really interesting.
hard to explain
albis
Profile Joined January 2010
United States652 Posts
May 13 2013 17:51 GMT
#16476
On May 14 2013 01:49 Aegon I wrote:
I wonder if the history books lied about the Wildlings crossing The Wall six times and losing every battle.

mance raynor should know the history aswell though. former ranger and all. so he should understand about attacking walls and siege warfares. and with giants i think the 7th time might be a bit different.
every punch is thrown with bad intentions with the speed of a devil
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
May 13 2013 17:56 GMT
#16477
On May 14 2013 02:51 albis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 01:49 Aegon I wrote:
I wonder if the history books lied about the Wildlings crossing The Wall six times and losing every battle.

mance raynor should know the history aswell though. former ranger and all. so he should understand about attacking walls and siege warfares. and with giants i think the 7th time might be a bit different.


haha mance raynor... almost better than carl drogo :D
FREEloss_ca
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada603 Posts
May 13 2013 17:57 GMT
#16478
On May 14 2013 02:51 albis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 01:49 Aegon I wrote:
I wonder if the history books lied about the Wildlings crossing The Wall six times and losing every battle.

mance raynor should know the history aswell though. former ranger and all. so he should understand about attacking walls and siege warfares. and with giants i think the 7th time might be a bit different.


Not to mention the Night's Watch are the weakest they've ever been. They had barely 1000 men, and that was before they went to the Fist of the First Men. There's probably only around 700 men stationed at Castle Black.
"Starcraft...It just echos brilliance and manliness." - Tasteless
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
May 13 2013 18:25 GMT
#16479
Now thats an episode made from sexy asses.Good thing the remaining rest was good as well.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 18:27:30
May 13 2013 18:26 GMT
#16480
On May 14 2013 02:32 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 02:08 Fruscainte wrote:
On May 14 2013 01:56 foxmeep wrote:
This season is honestly slow as shit, practically nothing progresses between one episode to the next. There hasn't been a single episode where you've been like holy shit I want to see what happens in the next (unlike in the previous two seasons).

The number of repeated or "extensions" to scenes is pretty damn pointless. Doesn't add to the story, doesn't add to the characters. Pretty much seems like it's getting the Hobbit treatment now (more content = more $$$).


Oh man for a second I thought I was in a thread about a Vin Diesel movie, what with you complaining that the show actually has pacing and develops characters in ways other than EPIC CLIFFHANGERS!!11! every episode. Something epic can't happen every episode otherwise it would stop being epic. There's so much intrigue going on in this show right now and so much subtle stuff that I'm having a blast watching it. I'm loving watching characters develop in their own ways and letting it build up. You may or may not know this, but we have a spoiler thread for the books of this series. Because this show is based off a book. And books, unlike most TV shows today, have pacing.

It's refreshing, honestly. It's nice to have a breather between the epic moments.


A 7 episode breather. It's a 10 episode season, it should be treated as such. You want book pacing and in-depth character development... that's probably what the book is for.

For a TV show, the amount of revisited scenes or scenes that extend through 2-3 episodes with absolutely no progression in the story is frankly boring as shit. The progression of the story and character development was far better in seasons 1 and 2.


Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 02:07 FREEloss_ca wrote:
On May 14 2013 01:56 foxmeep wrote:
This season is honestly slow as shit, practically nothing progresses between one episode to the next. There hasn't been a single episode where you've been like holy shit I want to see what happens in the next (unlike in the previous two seasons).

The number of repeated or "extensions" to scenes is pretty damn pointless. Doesn't add to the story, doesn't add to the characters. Pretty much seems like it's getting the Hobbit treatment now (more content = more $$$).


Or maybe they're trying to follow the novel it's based on? Season 2 had several slow episodes leading up to the Battle of Blackwater. There's only three episodes left in the season. Episode 9 will most likely be the climax, with Ep.10 being the falling action, with cliffhangers for next season.

You also have to keep in mind they've split the 3rd book into two seasons. Perhaps they're saving all the action for Season 4. But then again, they never show many battles in this show for what I assumed to be budget reasons. In season 2 they neglected to show us three battles between Robb's army and the Lannisters, but then gave us the Battle of Blackwater at the end of the season. Plus this story is about people, not explosions and battles.

Maybe this just isn't the show for you. I personally enjoyed the Joffrey and Tywin scene last episode as much as I would any battle/sword fight scene.


It's not the lack of action that bothers me. It's the lack of progression in the plot.


You do realize that this is a show not about a single plot, but about POV's from various people witnessing something happen that is in many ways out of their control, right? That in a show/book series of this type, CHARACTER development is important, not necessarily a "plot" -- the plot is the world changing around them.

Even if that wasn't the case you're wrong. You must have been asleep when Dany sacked a city with a slave army that she freed, or when Robb lost half of his army and has to go crawling back to the Frey's to get a chance back at winning, and how Jaime lost his sword hand and how Jaime was found out to be completely justified in his kingslaying, and how or how Jon successfully melded in with the Wildlings and they are marching on the wall, or how Ser Davos was imprisoned, or how Margery is slowly but surely gaining power over Joffrey, or how Bran is having major character development by having his warg-ness ironed out by the Reed's, or how Sam is alone beyond the wall with some inbred women and a baby, or how Arya was just kidnapped by Sandor, or the Lannisters finding out the Tyrell's plots, or the dozens of other progressions that happened so far in this season.

Just because it's not epic explosions doesn't mean there isn't progress.
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