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On May 13 2013 13:11 Sub40APM wrote:
so...why did Jaimie ride out all the way and then ride back if he could have pulled the exact same stunt as soon as Bolton left. Honestly I'd rather have seen Brienne kill the bear with her wooden sword then the half assed way she was saved instead.
"What are you going to do, kill me if she doesnt come?"
"Nope, we will just knock you unconscious and then drop her back into the bear bit. safe travels" *knocks him unconscious*
Why the show/writer insists on adding needless drama to a show that has loads of it already always annoys me.
You're forgetting that he did make the point of "either you're the one who cut my hand off or you're the one who saved me" to his de facto 'escort/jailer". I'd imagine he'd have an issue with the knocking unconcious, throwing her in and not giving in to his honourable (to an extent) demand part as it'd certainly mean Tywin would kill him and everyone else when reaching King's Landing.
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I was waiting for Jaime to be a badass as throw the guy into the pit but I guess realistically he couldn't. Oh well, great episode anyway.
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Anyone else finding the downloads to be particularily slow this week? Myself, nor any of my friends, can get more than 5 kb/s
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I can't wait until the season 3 soundtrack for the version of rains of castamere that played in the end credits.
The wildling women with Bran is seriously getting annoying, I hope she dies soon. I laughed out loud when she was bitching and Hodor just replied with a "hoder".
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Germany25658 Posts
That torture scene was so fucked up (get it?) -.-
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On May 13 2013 13:30 sumsaR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 13:11 Sub40APM wrote:
so...why did Jaimie ride out all the way and then ride back if he could have pulled the exact same stunt as soon as Bolton left. Honestly I'd rather have seen Brienne kill the bear with her wooden sword then the half assed way she was saved instead.
"What are you going to do, kill me if she doesnt come?"
"Nope, we will just knock you unconscious and then drop her back into the bear bit. safe travels" *knocks him unconscious*
Why the show/writer insists on adding needless drama to a show that has loads of it already always annoys me. You're forgetting that he did make the point of "either you're the one who cut my hand off or you're the one who saved me" to his de facto 'escort/jailer". I'd imagine he'd have an issue with the knocking unconcious, throwing her in and not giving in to his honourable (to an extent) demand part as it'd certainly mean Tywin would kill him and everyone else when reaching King's Landing.
He's been making that point for 3 episodes now though.
I just think he could have made that point a lot sooner, and they could have shown us some more interesting adventures.
Anyway some other thoughts -- Sansa continues to be amazingly naive despite all the stuff that happened to her. Easily the worst of the Stark children who actually have camera time.
And what is up with Danarys going all Abraham Lincoln? I can sort of understand -- even if I think the way she did it was banal -- why she turned on the slavers of Astrapor but what is she going to do with 250k slaves? Lets say Yunkai frees them and agrees to her demands -- because once she leaves the Dothraki will deliver more new slaves anyway -- where are all these people going to go? As soon as they are outside of her army's protection they will fall prey to slavers. Also, the slavers are strange. The very existance of Dany's army is an ideological threat they shouldnt accept -- think about how the situation is inside the walls of Yunkai. Sure you can tell your slaves "if you rebel we will kill you, and if you kill us then all the slave cities will come and get you" but now its "If you rebel now....there is a vast army and 3 dragons there to protect you...so please dont rebel"
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On May 13 2013 13:51 FREEloss_ca wrote:
Anyone else finding the downloads to be particularily slow this week? Myself, nor any of my friends, can get more than 5 kb/s
Aww that's too bad, looks like you'll just have to wait or, you know, pay for it or something, I hear some people do that for things they like.
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On May 13 2013 12:50 Dazed_Spy wrote:
I'm disappointed, I was hoping that guy that chopped Jamies hand off would get killled or pushed into the bear pit. On an unrelated note, I find it amusing that Joffrey consistently kind of has a 'modern' conception of things, yet is otherwise sadistic and undisciplined. He envisioned the modern army in season one, and he was expecting a relatively modern notion of Cabinet ministers reporting to their executive as well. Not to mention he took the far sighted position on Danny, which Tywin did not.
edit: and come on, theon got castrated...grrm is a perv. Basically everyone in the show gets raped and castrated.
If I'm not mistaken, Joffrey is simply more concerned with ruling than Robert was, hence the desire to be counseled. Robert was, more or less, hedonistic and seemed to hate being king. He wasn't as afraid of being killed or losing the power as much as he was afraid of doing real work. The only exception was with Daenerys, but I think that may have more to do with her being Targaryen and them stealing his first wife. Joffrey, on the other hand, sees shadows in random places. He's naive, a coward, an idiot, and sees himself as a divine power. Tywin is right to not fear dragons, which were known to be weak for centuries, though admittedly, he should show a little more caution.
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On May 13 2013 14:21 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 13:51 FREEloss_ca wrote:
Anyone else finding the downloads to be particularily slow this week? Myself, nor any of my friends, can get more than 5 kb/s Aww that's too bad, looks like you'll just have to wait or, you know, pay for it or something, I hear some people do that for things they like.
Or you you know, maybe downloading it is all he can do now, like me, and will later buy the entire season on DVD when it is released (like I did with the first two seasons).
It might be the internet but try not to assume so much.
On topic, waiting to get home so I can watch!
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On May 13 2013 14:09 KadaverBB wrote:
That torture scene was so fucked up (get it?) -.-
please don't do that again.
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On May 13 2013 14:29 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 12:50 Dazed_Spy wrote:
I'm disappointed, I was hoping that guy that chopped Jamies hand off would get killled or pushed into the bear pit. On an unrelated note, I find it amusing that Joffrey consistently kind of has a 'modern' conception of things, yet is otherwise sadistic and undisciplined. He envisioned the modern army in season one, and he was expecting a relatively modern notion of Cabinet ministers reporting to their executive as well. Not to mention he took the far sighted position on Danny, which Tywin did not.
edit: and come on, theon got castrated...grrm is a perv. Basically everyone in the show gets raped and castrated. If I'm not mistaken, Joffrey is simply more concerned with ruling than Robert was, hence the desire to be counseled. Robert was, more or less, hedonistic and seemed to hate being king. He wasn't as afraid of being killed or losing the power as much as he was afraid of doing real work. The only exception was with Daenerys, but I think that may have more to do with her being Targaryen and them stealing his first wife. Joffrey, on the other hand, sees shadows in random places. He's naive, a coward, an idiot, and sees himself as a divine power. Tywin is right to not fear dragons, which were known to be weak for centuries, though admittedly, he should show a little more caution. Hes right to be sceptical but hes wrong as a matter of fact. He [tywin] clearly is relying on faulty information, making him either incompetent or, well, himself, naive and fooled. Probably the latter, with him relying too heavily on Varys. Joffrey is a coward personally, theres no doubt of that. But fearing Dany is completely rational, something even Robert understood a year beforehand, long before she gained a large army and a reputation. Joffreys negative qualities are his sadism, cowardliness and immaturity, insofar as it goes larger political concerns--given hes twelve- hes actually been quite apt.
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On May 13 2013 06:29 Highways wrote:
George R Martin episode today!
Hopefully someone big dies
Now we know George R Martin episodes just means 3x the boobies.
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dany cares so much about the poor little slaves, but has no problem starting wars costing thousands of lives..with her arrogant smirk. Literally nothing happened this episode except for maybe 5 minutes of plot progression towards the end. The nudity is really gone overboard and shoved down your throat. Argh.. well atleast Jaime delivered.
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On May 13 2013 15:05 Dantat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 06:29 Highways wrote:
George R Martin episode today!
Hopefully someone big dies Now we know George R Martin episodes just means 3x the boobies.
Tons of boobs and talk of cocks. What a creep...
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On May 13 2013 11:20 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 10:11 Fenrax wrote:On May 13 2013 10:06 Prplppleatr wrote:
And how about you guys just drop the rape thing, it's a bit off track and doesn't really have anything to do with the story whether you consider them to be raped or just treated badly It is pretty important for the quality of the story if Drogo raped Dany or not. I think it is safe to say that women do not fall in love with their rapists, so it would mean that we are watching a pretty terrible show if he did indeed rape her. You can fall in love with your rapist, you can fall in love with someone who beats you or has even taken you hostage at gun point, for crying out loud. Nor would the inconsistency between Dany loving her rapist change what blatantly occurred. He raped her. What came after may be distasteful or implausible to you given that fact, but it IS what occurred.
yes he "raped" her, there is no argument. But the cultural difference makes it so his rape carries a VERY different weight than say if that happened today in our time. She knew what she was getting into, and he still treated her like a queen. Which is why she took the initiative and wanted to show him a good time after learning from that other girl in the camp. Normally after getting raped you don't try to please your rapist by learning how to fuck better.
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On May 13 2013 15:24 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 11:20 Dazed_Spy wrote:On May 13 2013 10:11 Fenrax wrote:On May 13 2013 10:06 Prplppleatr wrote:
And how about you guys just drop the rape thing, it's a bit off track and doesn't really have anything to do with the story whether you consider them to be raped or just treated badly It is pretty important for the quality of the story if Drogo raped Dany or not. I think it is safe to say that women do not fall in love with their rapists, so it would mean that we are watching a pretty terrible show if he did indeed rape her. You can fall in love with your rapist, you can fall in love with someone who beats you or has even taken you hostage at gun point, for crying out loud. Nor would the inconsistency between Dany loving her rapist change what blatantly occurred. He raped her. What came after may be distasteful or implausible to you given that fact, but it IS what occurred. yes he "raped" her, there is no argument. But the cultural difference makes it so his rape carries a VERY different weight than say if that happened today in our time. She knew what she was getting into, and he still treated her like a queen. Which is why she took the initiative and wanted to show him a good time after learning from that other girl in the camp. Normally after getting raped you don't try to please your rapist by learning how to fuck better. You can complain all you want about cultural distinctions or the abnormality of her response, but the act merits the definition of the word rape no matter what way you parse it.
edit: Next were going to get idiotic remarks about how Crastor didnt rape and molest his daughters, nor did he commit murder, because sacrificing your incest-born sons to the Others isnt murder in their culture.
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On May 13 2013 11:35 GGTeMpLaR wrote:ahahah "Bart the Bear"
That bear has had a better career than most human actors.
Pretty bland episode IMO. There was a little bit of character development from Jaime, and the three lines Arya spoke, but other than that...not much happened. I guess it's inevitable when dealing with a work this size, though.
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Netherlands6192 Posts
You know what really gets me about Dany's actress? She does everything so slowly and purposefully. It annoys the living hells out of me. Everything is done slowly with a distant look in her eyes. I want to tell her to snap out of it. Seriously drives me insane and is a big reason I don't like her. Its like in LotR where there are SOOOO many scenes of them looking at the ring. Seriously, if you compiled all those movies and just took the scenes where someone is staring at the ring, or the camera is zooming into the ring in someone's hand... it takes up like an hour >_<
Da-raaamaaaa.
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On May 13 2013 15:03 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 14:29 aksfjh wrote:On May 13 2013 12:50 Dazed_Spy wrote:
I'm disappointed, I was hoping that guy that chopped Jamies hand off would get killled or pushed into the bear pit. On an unrelated note, I find it amusing that Joffrey consistently kind of has a 'modern' conception of things, yet is otherwise sadistic and undisciplined. He envisioned the modern army in season one, and he was expecting a relatively modern notion of Cabinet ministers reporting to their executive as well. Not to mention he took the far sighted position on Danny, which Tywin did not.
edit: and come on, theon got castrated...grrm is a perv. Basically everyone in the show gets raped and castrated. If I'm not mistaken, Joffrey is simply more concerned with ruling than Robert was, hence the desire to be counseled. Robert was, more or less, hedonistic and seemed to hate being king. He wasn't as afraid of being killed or losing the power as much as he was afraid of doing real work. The only exception was with Daenerys, but I think that may have more to do with her being Targaryen and them stealing his first wife. Joffrey, on the other hand, sees shadows in random places. He's naive, a coward, an idiot, and sees himself as a divine power. Tywin is right to not fear dragons, which were known to be weak for centuries, though admittedly, he should show a little more caution. Hes right to be sceptical but hes wrong as a matter of fact. He [tywin] clearly is relying on faulty information, making him either incompetent or, well, himself, naive and fooled. Probably the latter, with him relying too heavily on Varys. Joffrey is a coward personally, theres no doubt of that. But fearing Dany is completely rational, something even Robert understood a year beforehand, long before she gained a large army and a reputation. Joffreys negative qualities are his sadism, cowardliness and immaturity, insofar as it goes larger political concerns--given hes twelve- hes actually been quite apt.
Like I said, I don't think Robert was actually afraid of Daenerys. He hated the Targaryens because of what they did to his wife. He understood the threat of the Dothraki, and the weakness of his kingdom, sure, but that's a lot different than fearing dragons and a slave army.
And he's only 12 now? I thought he was 14-15 by now...
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