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On May 08 2013 06:16 SkySpy wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Edmure King/Lord Paramount of Riverlands/Trident or whatever now that Cat's father died? The freys stand to tie themselves into two royal families, or just the Tullys depending how you interpret it.
Edmure Tully is Lord of Riverrun and Lord Paramount of the Riverlands/Trident.
On May 08 2013 06:40 PrinceXizor wrote:
The kid who was breastfeeding at like 12 is lord now. with a lord protector (his mother) making decisions. Similar to how joffrey was supposed to be.
Robin Arryn is Lord of the Eyrie, Warden of the East, and Lord Paramount of the Vale.
Edit: I don't remember if they are called Lord Paramount or Lord Protector. Doesn't really make a difference either way.
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On May 08 2013 06:40 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2013 06:16 SkySpy wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Edmure King/Lord Paramount of Riverlands/Trident or whatever now that Cat's father died? The freys stand to tie themselves into two royal families, or just the Tullys depending how you interpret it. The kid who was breastfeeding at like 12 is lord now. with a lord protector (his mother) making decisions. Similar to how joffrey was supposed to be.
Thats Rob Arryn who's the lord of the Eyrie. Edmure is the lord of Riverrun. Two different places.
EDIT: Someone beat me to it 
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On May 08 2013 06:16 SkySpy wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Edmure King/Lord Paramount of Riverlands/Trident or whatever now that Cat's father died? The freys stand to tie themselves into two royal families, or just the Tullys depending how you interpret it.
Since the Tully's accept Robb as King he remains Lord Paramount of the Riverlands.
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Joffry is a fucking demon. I can't believe that whore is dead, so sad.
Great episode though, littlefinger's speech was one for the ages.
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Yeah. Joffrey seemed a little tame for the past few episodes in his scenes with Margaery. Funny how all we need to remember that he's an evil little shit is a short 8 second scene.
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On May 08 2013 06:46 Nub4ever wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2013 06:40 PrinceXizor wrote:On May 08 2013 06:16 SkySpy wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Edmure King/Lord Paramount of Riverlands/Trident or whatever now that Cat's father died? The freys stand to tie themselves into two royal families, or just the Tullys depending how you interpret it. The kid who was breastfeeding at like 12 is lord now. with a lord protector (his mother) making decisions. Similar to how joffrey was supposed to be. Thats Rob Arryn who's the lord of the Eyrie. Edmure is the lord of Riverrun. Two different places. EDIT: Someone beat me to it
right sorry i keep forgetting cat's family is like all chicks married off to people. i just put tully and tully together.
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Some Bolton predictions:
+ Show Spoiler +So after watching the episode preview for next week it seems like Bolton really is gonna let Jaime ride south. That pretty much makes him a traitor and i think he is gonna turn on Robb. Also the guy torturing Theon is now pretty much confirmed to be Bolton's bastard, which makes the whole situation even more interesting.
We have Bolton and his men (they are all Bolton men arent they?) holding Harrenhall while bastard Bolton is in the north and just got to know that Bran and Rickon are alive. Bastard Bolton is probably gonna search for Bran and Rickon while Lord Bolton already tries to get on good terms with the Lannisters by releasing Jaime.
Goal of the whole thing is probably to get the Boltons to become Lords of the North once the Lannisters win the war.
If the Bolton bastard manages to find the Stark boys and gets word to his father, the Boltons will have the key to the north in their hands and could initiate negotiations with the Lannisters based on that situation.
That whole situation would also explain the burning of Winterfell, which most likely happened at the hand of the Bolton bastard who acted on his father's commands to weaken the Stark position in the war.
But one thing doesnt work out with my prediction. How did the Bolton bastard manage to burn down Winterfell when he was commanding loyal Stark men? If his men are loyal to Bolton, i wonder why he killed 3 of them when he faked Theon's escape. Was it just to convince Theon that he wasnt from the North? Seems kinda odd to kill 3 of your men just to make your story a little more believeable.
On the other hand the Bolton bastard is one sick guy and his behaviour isnt completely rational.
I wonder how much of this prediction turns out to be true......if anything at all.
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On May 08 2013 05:43 kafkaesque wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2013 02:54 iamperfection wrote:On May 08 2013 01:47 frontliner2 wrote:
The Theon torture needs to stop. I found that scene extremely disturbing the acting was all too well and so was the detail. The climax in this scene made my head explode as it felt, I had tolook away and am still feeling uncomfortable thinking about it. "caster"was it? Karstark, from Karhold.
But that was a lie, theon is most likely held by Boltons bastard. It was he who reclaimed winterfell in S2, and boltona sigil is a flayed man on an x shaped cross. In the last episode theon had his finger flayed while being tied to an x shaped cross. Its annoying that so peopöe seem to have figured this out by now. Its is obvious
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On May 08 2013 07:32 sideburn horse wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2013 05:43 kafkaesque wrote:On May 08 2013 02:54 iamperfection wrote:On May 08 2013 01:47 frontliner2 wrote:
The Theon torture needs to stop. I found that scene extremely disturbing the acting was all too well and so was the detail. The climax in this scene made my head explode as it felt, I had tolook away and am still feeling uncomfortable thinking about it. "caster"was it? Karstark, from Karhold. But that was a lie, theon is most likely held by Boltons bastard. It was he who reclaimed winterfell in S2, and boltona sigil is a flayed man on an x shaped cross. In the last episode theon had his finger flayed while being tied to an x shaped cross. Its annoying that so peopöe seem to have figured this out by now. Its is obvious
He was clarifying what the person heard, not stating it was true.
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Yeah, Bolton's bastard is starting to make a lot more sense now. Seeing as Boltons are loyal to Robb (Winter is coming), and their whole motto is about flaying men, it would make a lot of sense for the torturer to be a Bolton (said 2 posts above me). It goes with his long episode of physical and emotional torture.
I think that the Boltons are going to wrest control from Robb and join the Lannisters. Especially once Roose gets word that Rob is giving Harrenhal to Frey if the Starks win the war.
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Also, next episode is written by George R. R. Martin isn't it? That's a clear sign shit's about to go down next week.
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Bolton ought not to be able to keep Harrenhal anyway, it's way outside the north isn't it? That's part of the riverlands. They may have recognised Robb as their king but he isn't in any position to start dividing their land among his lords, nor has he any reason to. I think he's just garrisoning it while the war lasts.
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On May 08 2013 08:22 KwarK wrote:
Bolton ought not to be able to keep Harrenhal anyway, it's way outside the north isn't it? That's part of the riverlands. They may have recognised Robb as their king but he isn't in any position to start dividing their land among his lords, nor has he any reason to. I think he's just garrisoning it while the war lasts.
Yeah hes holding Harrenhal because its a strategic location. Its way to far away to hold once Robb gos back to the north. Probably the reason why he gave it to the Frey's so quickly aswell.
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On May 08 2013 08:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Also, next episode is written by George R. R. Martin isn't it? That's a clear sign shit's about to go down next week.
Can you believe I got spoiled by a random nerd watching a freaking stream? In the fucking chat man...
I don't even know how to deal with that. I think tho it has nothing with next week's episode. Guess I will just enjoy it and try to forget while watching...
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On May 08 2013 09:23 duoform wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2013 08:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Also, next episode is written by George R. R. Martin isn't it? That's a clear sign shit's about to go down next week. Can you believe I got spoiled by a random nerd watching a freaking stream? In the fucking chat man... I don't even know how to deal with that. I think tho it has nothing with next week's episode. Guess I will just enjoy it and try to forget while watching...
Yet another reason to always close twitch chat.
In fact I was spoiled big time the other day. At least 5 people on twitch chat told me that + Show Spoiler + dies 
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On May 08 2013 07:23 Scio wrote:Some Bolton predictions: + Show Spoiler +So after watching the episode preview for next week it seems like Bolton really is gonna let Jaime ride south. That pretty much makes him a traitor and i think he is gonna turn on Robb. Also the guy torturing Theon is now pretty much confirmed to be Bolton's bastard, which makes the whole situation even more interesting.
We have Bolton and his men (they are all Bolton men arent they?) holding Harrenhall while bastard Bolton is in the north and just got to know that Bran and Rickon are alive. Bastard Bolton is probably gonna search for Bran and Rickon while Lord Bolton already tries to get on good terms with the Lannisters by releasing Jaime.
Goal of the whole thing is probably to get the Boltons to become Lords of the North once the Lannisters win the war.
If the Bolton bastard manages to find the Stark boys and gets word to his father, the Boltons will have the key to the north in their hands and could initiate negotiations with the Lannisters based on that situation.
That whole situation would also explain the burning of Winterfell, which most likely happened at the hand of the Bolton bastard who acted on his father's commands to weaken the Stark position in the war.
But one thing doesnt work out with my prediction. How did the Bolton bastard manage to burn down Winterfell when he was commanding loyal Stark men? If his men are loyal to Bolton, i wonder why he killed 3 of them when he faked Theon's escape. Was it just to convince Theon that he wasnt from the North? Seems kinda odd to kill 3 of your men just to make your story a little more believeable.
On the other hand the Bolton bastard is one sick guy and his behaviour isnt completely rational.
I wonder how much of this prediction turns out to be true......if anything at all.
To be fair the Boltons sided with Lannisters when the lannisters were the clear "winners" then when they started losing boltons went to Robb. now that robb is losing they seem to watch to get back on the winning side. scumbags. so you can call them traitors, but they just want to be on the winning side. they are immoral scumbags, not traitors.
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So the biggest hope Robb has right now is the Braavosi? Judging by the fact that Syrio worked for Ned, and what we know of the Iron Bank, I can expect Robb to out-gold the Lannisters if he holds out long enough.
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Look at the Bolton's sigil:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tCFbSDm.jpg)
Now look at Theon:
![[image loading]](http://screencapped.net/tv/gameofthrones/albums/userpics/10003/got0302-2131.jpg)
Now back at the sigil, now back at Theon...
Uhm...
Bolton even wears a very noticiable brooch with his sigil:
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On May 08 2013 09:41 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2013 07:23 Scio wrote:Some Bolton predictions: + Show Spoiler +So after watching the episode preview for next week it seems like Bolton really is gonna let Jaime ride south. That pretty much makes him a traitor and i think he is gonna turn on Robb. Also the guy torturing Theon is now pretty much confirmed to be Bolton's bastard, which makes the whole situation even more interesting.
We have Bolton and his men (they are all Bolton men arent they?) holding Harrenhall while bastard Bolton is in the north and just got to know that Bran and Rickon are alive. Bastard Bolton is probably gonna search for Bran and Rickon while Lord Bolton already tries to get on good terms with the Lannisters by releasing Jaime.
Goal of the whole thing is probably to get the Boltons to become Lords of the North once the Lannisters win the war.
If the Bolton bastard manages to find the Stark boys and gets word to his father, the Boltons will have the key to the north in their hands and could initiate negotiations with the Lannisters based on that situation.
That whole situation would also explain the burning of Winterfell, which most likely happened at the hand of the Bolton bastard who acted on his father's commands to weaken the Stark position in the war.
But one thing doesnt work out with my prediction. How did the Bolton bastard manage to burn down Winterfell when he was commanding loyal Stark men? If his men are loyal to Bolton, i wonder why he killed 3 of them when he faked Theon's escape. Was it just to convince Theon that he wasnt from the North? Seems kinda odd to kill 3 of your men just to make your story a little more believeable.
On the other hand the Bolton bastard is one sick guy and his behaviour isnt completely rational.
I wonder how much of this prediction turns out to be true......if anything at all.
To be fair the Boltons sided with Lannisters when the lannisters were the clear "winners" then when they started losing boltons went to Robb. now that robb is losing they seem to watch to get back on the winning side. scumbags. so you can call them traitors, but they just want to be on the winning side. they are immoral scumbags, not traitors.
When were the Boltons ever allied with the Lannisters?
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