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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
On April 12 2013 10:05 tshi wrote: As a book reader, this thread is very difficult to read; however it's really entertaining sometimes! Thanks, guys! Yeah...was thinking the same... I am wondering how come people don't pick up books after liking the series this much? | ||
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Visas
Turkey119 Posts
There are a shitton of good books people can read. Tv shows; not so much. I don't want to ruin my already low tv entertainment. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On April 12 2013 15:45 Gotmog wrote: Yeah...was thinking the same... I am wondering how come people don't pick up books after liking the series this much? Because I prefer to do one or the other. I don't like to watch/read anything twice unless I completely forget what they were about, and I think the same principle applies whether it's a book or a movie. I know there are slight differences, but I don't feel like it's worth my time if they aren't major. | ||
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
On April 11 2013 23:22 Grettin wrote: Bit offtopic. Excellent cello cover of the main theme. OMG that was amazing. So much emotion conveyed through their music, I wish HBO would hire them. Although it's a bit raw, with some polish they would make the soundtrack sing along with those big scenes  | ||
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MistSC2
Sweden583 Posts
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
On April 11 2013 22:28 UdderChaos wrote: I don't think she is just a pawn to Cersei. The relationship is complex, she hates Sansa on the one hand because of her dislike of the Starks, but on the other hand she defiantly sees herself in Sansa and almost feels sorry for her, almost. Cersei is bitter about her experience as queen and is spiteful in the way she doesn't want Sansa to be spared her experience either because she was given no option, so why should Sansa? But she does see herself in Sansa and through that defiantly has other feelings than hate for her, sympathy exists on some level. Cersei wants power, unfortunately now that her father is back in town she cannot have any because, as Joffrey constantly reminds her - she is a woman. She has lost everything, she is no longer the queen and she will be fully replaced once Joffrey marries Margaery. She will be left to wittle away once Margaery is the queen, to some degree it was better when Robert was alive since then she actually held some form of power since then she was the queen, shortly she won´t even be that anymore. I mean her job is over. She has made lannister babies that now sit on the throne and her husband is dead, it isn´t even unlikely that Tywin sends her back to rot away at Casterly rock for the rest of her days since what role or purpose does she actually fill in King's Landing? None. She can´t even control Joffrey in the slightest anymore. I mean she's trying to warn Joffrey that Margaery is up to something and i think we can all agree that she is, but he's too arrogant and blind to see it. Margaery is a snake since she asked Sansa how Joffrey really is and Sansa explains that he is a monster. What does Margaery do? She indulges him, plays the helpless little girl and asks to go hunting and kill stuff with him which gets him very excited. Margaery is slowly wrapping Joffrey around his little finger while acting like Sansa did except she isn´t Sansa. She knows that life isn´t a fairy tale but she doesn't care all she wants is to be queen, to have power. This is why Cersei fears her - Margaery is Cersei except she is younger, prettier, dresses sluttier and foremost Margaery will have an actual role and purpose as a wife and queen while Cersei is just dead meat hanging around. And i don´t think Cersei has any form of feelings at all towards Sansa, Sansa is just a piece in the game that she and the Lannisters can control easily. If Joffrey would marry Sansa over Margaery Cersei would have some form of control atleast since she can control and manipulate Sansa since Sansa has the IQ of a goldfish. However with "traitors blood" and all that i guess we can conclude that such a wedding simply won´t happen. | ||
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weikor
Austria580 Posts
I was however really confused at the beginning of season 3 without a recap.They really need to do a narrated one at the beginning of a season, especially considering how theres so many storylines. I know this isnt a book discussion - suffice to say that there will be many more storylines added- I am very excited to see how they add those in, and hope that doesnt get too confusing. I was a little dissappointed in them not showing the Dragon plot last episode. | ||
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
On April 12 2013 17:12 weikor wrote: I was however really confused at the beginning of season 3 without a recap.They really need to do a narrated one at the beginning of a season, especially considering how theres so many storylines. They did one, it was aired a couple days before season 3 started on HBO. It was a 5 min video going over evry major plots of season 2 and how the characters are left in the end. I'm sure if you search for it online you'll find it pretty easily. The other, more hardcore, option is to rewatch the previous season before starting a new one. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 12 2013 17:46 Emix_Squall wrote: They did one, it was aired a couple days before season 3 started on HBO. It was a 5 min video going over evry major plots of season 2 and how the characters are left in the end. I'm sure if you search for it online you'll find it pretty easily. The other, more hardcore, option is to rewatch the previous season before starting a new one. http://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/about/video/season-2-recap.html There you go. Should still be pretty confusing for people that have not read the books. Its just a collection of important scenes, no narration. | ||
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
On April 12 2013 18:25 Redox wrote: There you go. Should still be pretty confusing for people that have not read the books. Its just a collection of important scenes, no narration. Thxfor the link. If someone is still confused after watching this and having seen the first 2 season months ago they shouldn't watch the show. It's not made to be understood by book readers only. I never read those books and I'm doing just fine following the show (and I'm not hardcore enough to rewatch all Season 2 before going into the third either). | ||
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Broetchenholer
Germany1969 Posts
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chillpenguin
United States90 Posts
On April 12 2013 18:45 Broetchenholer wrote: I think the episode of the second series, in which Kings Landing is attacked by Stannis shows guite well, that Cresei is not completely heartless und unemotional about Sansa. In a way, she cares for her. She probably feels a bit responsible and guilty. Cersei is wasted and just babbles on about herself and what it means to be queen, and proceeds to make fun of Sansa for praying, taunts her about getting raped, and basically threatens her with beheading. Cersei doesn't give a shit about Sansa other than she's a valuable hostage. Cersei cares about no one except for her kids and herself (and Jaime I guess). | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
i've managed to catch up by season 3 and reading/watching side by side now and the differences are much more clear. | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On April 12 2013 15:45 Gotmog wrote: Yeah...was thinking the same... I am wondering how come people don't pick up books after liking the series this much? Not all people like reading. I do sometimes, but I'm not good enough at reading English to enjoy it, I have to concentrate too much. And I don't like translations because they usually translate names too. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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The Irate Turk
285 Posts
I felt characters like Tyrion sounded too needy and emo when in the book while he does experience some of these emotions, he is very careful not to outwardly display them. It feels like the level of production has just taken a nose dive between the last season and this one. Man, what a stinker :/ | ||
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
On April 13 2013 05:12 The Irate Turk wrote: Am I the only person who is BITTERLY disappointed with season 3? I loved seasons 1 and 2 but 3 is just all over the place. I really hate how it deviated from the book, and while this isn't the book thread, I feel that they could easily have made 30 episodes and kept in a lot of what makes the book so amazing. I felt characters like Tyrion sounded too needy and emo when in the book while he does experience some of these emotions, he is very careful not to outwardly display them. It feels like the level of production has just taken a nose dive between the last season and this one. Man, what a stinker :/ That Turk is Irate. You have to realize that the show is an adaptation, obviously it isn't going to be exactly like the book. And I think it might be a little unfair to judge the season based on two set-up episodes. They have a lot of story lines to cover.. Martin didn't make things easy on them. But I think they're doing a really good job of it. It takes a few episodes to set up 10+ story lines. Just have patience sir! | ||
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
On April 13 2013 05:12 The Irate Turk wrote: I feel that they could easily have made 30 episodes and kept in a lot of what makes the book so amazing. You gotta realize how much time, money and effort goes in to making a 10 hour season. Multiplying that by 3 inst easy. | ||
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
On April 13 2013 05:20 scudst0rm wrote: You gotta realize how much time, money and effort goes in to making a 10 hour season. Multiplying that by 3 inst easy. Agreed. Also in regards to the comment about production not being as good this season; It feels like the level of production has just taken a nose dive between the last season and this one. they've made mention that the last six episodes of this season are going to be extremely intense. Meaning the first few episodes are going to have far less money put into them by comparison. Just like last season when they saved all their money for Blackwater. | ||
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The Irate Turk
285 Posts
HBO is supposed to be the best, and they make quality like The Sopranos, and Deadwood, so why can't someone make a decision not to sacrifice the integrity and quality of the show? Films (and also tv) don't need hundreds of millions spent on them to be great. Look at the Three Colours series. I appreciate that this is a historical epic and needs costumes and battle scenes etc, but I just feel like we've gone from The Lord of the Rings quality to The Hobbit. Even though it looks and sorta feels the same, something is very wrong. | ||
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