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On April 05 2013 16:13 Irrelevant Label wrote:
This again? You guys do it for the reaction. It's your subconscious answer to all the references that someone can't know are a reference to a spoiler without being a reader that are posted in this thread.
I spent way too long trying to think of one to put in this post so I give up. I looked back through the thread for ideas and was lost.
maybe I'm just tired but I have no idea wtf you just said
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On April 05 2013 16:27 Assault_1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 16:13 Irrelevant Label wrote:
This again? You guys do it for the reaction. It's your subconscious answer to all the references that someone can't know are a reference to a spoiler without being a reader that are posted in this thread.
I spent way too long trying to think of one to put in this post so I give up. I looked back through the thread for ideas and was lost. maybe I'm just tired but I have no idea wtf you just said
It actually makes sense but good lord that's hard english to decipher.
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On April 05 2013 16:35 shadowboxer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 16:27 Assault_1 wrote:On April 05 2013 16:13 Irrelevant Label wrote:
This again? You guys do it for the reaction. It's your subconscious answer to all the references that someone can't know are a reference to a spoiler without being a reader that are posted in this thread.
I spent way too long trying to think of one to put in this post so I give up. I looked back through the thread for ideas and was lost. maybe I'm just tired but I have no idea wtf you just said It actually makes sense but good lord that's hard english to decipher.
yea, my first thought was to tell him to stop drinking and posting at the same time, but i worked out the meaning on the 5th read or so.
IL, never be a teacher ^^
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On April 05 2013 07:26 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 07:24 Shelke14 wrote:On April 04 2013 11:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On April 04 2013 05:34 IamVirGin wrote:On April 04 2013 02:26 TrickyGilligan wrote:
That said, I think the Stark children are for the most part pretty innocent, which could explain why bad things keep happening to them. I have nothing but sympathy for Sansa and Arya. Yeah, the Starks (including J. Snow) seem like good people across the board, more or less. I expect at least half of them to die, and the rest to suffer. Renly also seemed like a decently good guy and he too died. I get wolf in sheepskin wibe from both the Tyrells. Bad things keep happening to them because of their stupid mother. I hope bad things happen to that woman. Extensively seconded.
But the stupid decisions of good old Ned very much had their part in things going south as well. Especially telling Cersei that he knows Joffrey isn't the rightful heir, ordering to arrest the Mountain and summoning Tywin to King's Landing while it was clear that the Lannisters hold all the military and economic power, as if honor and law was all that mattered to everybody. As Jaime said, "honorable man, terrible judgment". Don't get me wrong, I loved the guy and rootet for him so bad ... which is what made his poor decision-making and resulting downfall so painful to watch. :'-(
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On April 03 2013 03:42 Sabu113 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 03:02 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
I wonder what stops Daenarys to recruit 8000 soldiers and pillage Astapor with help of dragons? After that slowly capturing Free cities one of the time.
If I would be any of the major houses from Westeros I would start negoating with Daenarys any alliances incase of another Targaryan conquest campaign.Secretly of course. Why? Dragons have been dead for ages so that's probably a rumor and god knows I can't imagine too many major houses care for the goings on over yonder. All three armies over in Westeros are still enough to destroy a small 8000 man force, however good they are. Plus this is their home. They'll have advantages in the terrain and logistics routes. Dany really isn't a concern.
How do you know the army sizes? I remember a dialogue between Tywin and his men (or maybe Tyrion) about Robb Stark's force, when Robb tricked him by splitting up his army. Wasn't it something around 2000 men? I assume others might have joined him in the meantime, but still, if that was the number and he can give the Lannisters a fight, then Dany should be able to do something with 8000 pain-proof badasses.
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On April 04 2013 11:47 Gene wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 07:34 Chewbacca. wrote:On April 04 2013 02:26 TrickyGilligan wrote:On April 04 2013 01:23 massivez wrote:
Damn, excellent episode. But now i get why this series isnt for everyone, you have to have alot of patience.
Btw is Jon Snow the only rightheous charachter in the series? The rest of the main cast seem are all gray, even Dany (with the exception of Joffrey ofcourse). Sean Bean was all about honor and duty... and look where that got him. I think it's safe to say that realpolitik is one of the themes of the show, and it goes out of it's way repeatedly to show that traditional values have no place in the harsh reality of King's Landing. That said, I think the Stark children are for the most part pretty innocent, which could explain why bad things keep happening to them. I have nothing but sympathy for Sansa and Arya. I don't have all that much sympathy for Sansa. She was so anxious to be rushed off and married to Jauffre just so that she could be queen, even though he is clearly a prick. Then in the episode with the butcher's son she just keeps silent and doesn't side with Arya (By far the coolest character in the show) even though Arya was clearly right. Arya and Bran are the two I feel bad for...and I guess the youngest Stark even though I don't know anything about him, including his name... He was just a spoiled prick at that point, and heir to the throne. That's nothing something easily held against her. At the time, he hadn't done anything more than scream his name and his rights, much like Daenerys. And it's Jaime.
Lolwut, Joffrey swung a sword at Arya in a fury before Sansa's eyes. No reason for Sansa to change her mind about him. And yeah, screw the butcher's boy who did absolutely nothing. And being mad at Ned of all people for killing the wolf when he was only doing it to prevent having him killed by a Lannister asshole and the reason why Robert ordered to kill him purely came from her beloved Joffrey's sadism.
I don't think Sansa is evil or something, but for the most part of the first 2 seasons she seemed busy exploring unknown heights of stupidity and then suffering the consequences that anyone half awake would have seen coming from a mile away.
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On April 05 2013 18:00 FrogOfWar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 03:42 Sabu113 wrote:On April 03 2013 03:02 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
I wonder what stops Daenarys to recruit 8000 soldiers and pillage Astapor with help of dragons? After that slowly capturing Free cities one of the time.
If I would be any of the major houses from Westeros I would start negoating with Daenarys any alliances incase of another Targaryan conquest campaign.Secretly of course. Why? Dragons have been dead for ages so that's probably a rumor and god knows I can't imagine too many major houses care for the goings on over yonder. All three armies over in Westeros are still enough to destroy a small 8000 man force, however good they are. Plus this is their home. They'll have advantages in the terrain and logistics routes. Dany really isn't a concern. How do you know the army sizes? I remember a dialogue between Tywin and his men (or maybe Tyrion) about Robb Stark's force, when Robb tricked him by splitting up his army. Wasn't it something around 2000 men? I assume others might have joined him in the meantime, but still, if that was the number and he can give the Lannisters a fight, then Dany should be able to do something with 8000 pain-proof badasses.
From what we know, Robb's host was around 20k when he descended from the North, from which he "sent 2000 to die" as a distraction while with his main army he captured Jaime, scattered his host, then went on to win a battle at Oxcross or whatever it's called.
It's a bit confusing, because there is a scene with Tywinn and Littlefinger in which he says the Tyrells are the 3rd largest military force after Stark and Lannister (and at that time Stannis's army was nice and unhurt), meaning that the Stark host is the 2nd largest, which is kinda contrary to the other hints at the army sizes in Westeros, but hey, maybe LF was just wrong, or he specifically meant only the Tyrells, not the Tyrells+their bannermen, and by Stark he meant all the Stark bannermen and allies, who knows.
To the point, yes, 8k soldiers are not enough on their own to conqure a continent, even if they are of superior quality.
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On April 05 2013 18:40 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 18:00 FrogOfWar wrote:On April 03 2013 03:42 Sabu113 wrote:On April 03 2013 03:02 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
I wonder what stops Daenarys to recruit 8000 soldiers and pillage Astapor with help of dragons? After that slowly capturing Free cities one of the time.
If I would be any of the major houses from Westeros I would start negoating with Daenarys any alliances incase of another Targaryan conquest campaign.Secretly of course. Why? Dragons have been dead for ages so that's probably a rumor and god knows I can't imagine too many major houses care for the goings on over yonder. All three armies over in Westeros are still enough to destroy a small 8000 man force, however good they are. Plus this is their home. They'll have advantages in the terrain and logistics routes. Dany really isn't a concern. How do you know the army sizes? I remember a dialogue between Tywin and his men (or maybe Tyrion) about Robb Stark's force, when Robb tricked him by splitting up his army. Wasn't it something around 2000 men? I assume others might have joined him in the meantime, but still, if that was the number and he can give the Lannisters a fight, then Dany should be able to do something with 8000 pain-proof badasses. From what we know, Robb's host was around 20k when he descended from the North, from which he "sent 2000 to die" as a distraction while with his main army he captured Jaime, scattered his host, then went on to win a battle at Oxcross or whatever it's called. It's a bit confusing, because there is a scene with Tywinn and Littlefinger in which he says the Tyrells are the 3rd largest military force after Stark and Lannister (and at that time Stannis's army was nice and unhurt), meaning that the Stark host is the 2nd largest, which is kinda contrary to the other hints at the army sizes in Westeros, but hey, maybe LF was just wrong, or he specifically meant only the Tyrells, not the Tyrells+their bannermen, and by Stark he meant all the Stark bannermen and allies, who knows. To the point, yes, 8k soldiers are not enough on their own to conqure a continent, even if they are of superior quality.
Don't forget that Dany is the heir to the rightful king. Robert was a usurper after all. If she invades Westeros she'll have plenty of supporters.
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On April 05 2013 19:20 helvete wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 18:40 Geo.Rion wrote:On April 05 2013 18:00 FrogOfWar wrote:On April 03 2013 03:42 Sabu113 wrote:On April 03 2013 03:02 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
I wonder what stops Daenarys to recruit 8000 soldiers and pillage Astapor with help of dragons? After that slowly capturing Free cities one of the time.
If I would be any of the major houses from Westeros I would start negoating with Daenarys any alliances incase of another Targaryan conquest campaign.Secretly of course. Why? Dragons have been dead for ages so that's probably a rumor and god knows I can't imagine too many major houses care for the goings on over yonder. All three armies over in Westeros are still enough to destroy a small 8000 man force, however good they are. Plus this is their home. They'll have advantages in the terrain and logistics routes. Dany really isn't a concern. How do you know the army sizes? I remember a dialogue between Tywin and his men (or maybe Tyrion) about Robb Stark's force, when Robb tricked him by splitting up his army. Wasn't it something around 2000 men? I assume others might have joined him in the meantime, but still, if that was the number and he can give the Lannisters a fight, then Dany should be able to do something with 8000 pain-proof badasses. From what we know, Robb's host was around 20k when he descended from the North, from which he "sent 2000 to die" as a distraction while with his main army he captured Jaime, scattered his host, then went on to win a battle at Oxcross or whatever it's called. It's a bit confusing, because there is a scene with Tywinn and Littlefinger in which he says the Tyrells are the 3rd largest military force after Stark and Lannister (and at that time Stannis's army was nice and unhurt), meaning that the Stark host is the 2nd largest, which is kinda contrary to the other hints at the army sizes in Westeros, but hey, maybe LF was just wrong, or he specifically meant only the Tyrells, not the Tyrells+their bannermen, and by Stark he meant all the Stark bannermen and allies, who knows. To the point, yes, 8k soldiers are not enough on their own to conqure a continent, even if they are of superior quality. Don't forget that Dany is the heir to the rightful king. Robert was a usurper after all. If she invades Westeros she'll have plenty of supporters.
Rightful queen. Its not about supporters but about dragons. When you hear news about Free cities burned down by dragons, you are going to think alternative plans as a lord how to keep your position. Most likely south is more willing to join Targayren realm than north side.
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On April 05 2013 18:40 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 18:00 FrogOfWar wrote:On April 03 2013 03:42 Sabu113 wrote:On April 03 2013 03:02 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
I wonder what stops Daenarys to recruit 8000 soldiers and pillage Astapor with help of dragons? After that slowly capturing Free cities one of the time.
If I would be any of the major houses from Westeros I would start negoating with Daenarys any alliances incase of another Targaryan conquest campaign.Secretly of course. Why? Dragons have been dead for ages so that's probably a rumor and god knows I can't imagine too many major houses care for the goings on over yonder. All three armies over in Westeros are still enough to destroy a small 8000 man force, however good they are. Plus this is their home. They'll have advantages in the terrain and logistics routes. Dany really isn't a concern. How do you know the army sizes? I remember a dialogue between Tywin and his men (or maybe Tyrion) about Robb Stark's force, when Robb tricked him by splitting up his army. Wasn't it something around 2000 men? I assume others might have joined him in the meantime, but still, if that was the number and he can give the Lannisters a fight, then Dany should be able to do something with 8000 pain-proof badasses. From what we know, Robb's host was around 20k when he descended from the North, from which he "sent 2000 to die" as a distraction while with his main army he captured Jaime, scattered his host, then went on to win a battle at Oxcross or whatever it's called. It's a bit confusing, because there is a scene with Tywinn and Littlefinger in which he says the Tyrells are the 3rd largest military force after Stark and Lannister (and at that time Stannis's army was nice and unhurt), meaning that the Stark host is the 2nd largest, which is kinda contrary to the other hints at the army sizes in Westeros, but hey, maybe LF was just wrong, or he specifically meant only the Tyrells, not the Tyrells+their bannermen, and by Stark he meant all the Stark bannermen and allies, who knows. To the point, yes, 8k soldiers are not enough on their own to conqure a continent, even if they are of superior quality.
I still think danyeri's plan is to get the dothraki back, then plus the 8k is easily enough surely, even if they refuse to fight the dothraki on open ground, they can control the lands with the fast moving horseback army and starve out the cities. Even if the dothraki arn't part of the plan, i imagine 8k amazing soldier to distract any size army while dragon absolutely anhialate them seems like a fairly legit strategy, and the RUINS of harrenhal tell you something about trying to hide in a castle against dragons. Basically 3 fully grown dragons seem to be equal to any sized army by the sounds of it. P.S Ive never understood dany's "the dragons arnt growing fast enough!", shes young, and has absolutely nothing to do. How impatient is she?
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On April 05 2013 20:39 UdderChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 18:40 Geo.Rion wrote:On April 05 2013 18:00 FrogOfWar wrote:On April 03 2013 03:42 Sabu113 wrote:On April 03 2013 03:02 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
I wonder what stops Daenarys to recruit 8000 soldiers and pillage Astapor with help of dragons? After that slowly capturing Free cities one of the time.
If I would be any of the major houses from Westeros I would start negoating with Daenarys any alliances incase of another Targaryan conquest campaign.Secretly of course. Why? Dragons have been dead for ages so that's probably a rumor and god knows I can't imagine too many major houses care for the goings on over yonder. All three armies over in Westeros are still enough to destroy a small 8000 man force, however good they are. Plus this is their home. They'll have advantages in the terrain and logistics routes. Dany really isn't a concern. How do you know the army sizes? I remember a dialogue between Tywin and his men (or maybe Tyrion) about Robb Stark's force, when Robb tricked him by splitting up his army. Wasn't it something around 2000 men? I assume others might have joined him in the meantime, but still, if that was the number and he can give the Lannisters a fight, then Dany should be able to do something with 8000 pain-proof badasses. From what we know, Robb's host was around 20k when he descended from the North, from which he "sent 2000 to die" as a distraction while with his main army he captured Jaime, scattered his host, then went on to win a battle at Oxcross or whatever it's called. It's a bit confusing, because there is a scene with Tywinn and Littlefinger in which he says the Tyrells are the 3rd largest military force after Stark and Lannister (and at that time Stannis's army was nice and unhurt), meaning that the Stark host is the 2nd largest, which is kinda contrary to the other hints at the army sizes in Westeros, but hey, maybe LF was just wrong, or he specifically meant only the Tyrells, not the Tyrells+their bannermen, and by Stark he meant all the Stark bannermen and allies, who knows. To the point, yes, 8k soldiers are not enough on their own to conqure a continent, even if they are of superior quality. I still think danyeri's plan is to get the dothraki back, then plus the 8k is easily enough surely, even if they refuse to fight the dothraki on open ground, they can control the lands with the fast moving horseback army and starve out the cities. Even if the dothraki arn't part of the plan, i imagine 8k amazing soldier to distract any size army while dragon absolutely anhialate them seems like a fairly legit strategy, and the RUINS of harrenhal tell you something about trying to hide in a castle against dragons. Basically 3 fully grown dragons seem to be equal to any sized army by the sounds of it. P.S Ive never understood dany's "the dragons arnt growing fast enough!", shes young, and has absolutely nothing to do. How impatient is she?
Returning to conquer has pretty much been the only thing on her mind, almost as much as it was for Viserys. They both seem... quite impatient.
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I just realised that there will probably be some VERY interesting interaction between Melissadre and Daenerys. I wonder if there will be an alliance between them, if Melissadre will betray Stannis for her etc.
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On April 05 2013 22:04 TotalNightmare wrote:
I just realised that there will probably be some VERY interesting interaction between Melissadre and Daenerys.
I cant help but interpret this sexually. :D
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On April 05 2013 22:09 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 22:04 TotalNightmare wrote:
I just realised that there will probably be some VERY interesting interaction between Melissadre and Daenerys.
I cant help but interpret this sexually. :D
This shit will get hot!
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But why look so far afield when there is so much close at hand?
This translator chick is smoking hot.
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Dany and Melisandre together would be scary. There has to be a cap on how irrationally sure of one's self an entity can be before becoming entirely intolerable. If they became some kind of an item they might hit it.
On April 05 2013 17:27 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 16:35 shadowboxer wrote:On April 05 2013 16:27 Assault_1 wrote:On April 05 2013 16:13 Irrelevant Label wrote:
This again? You guys do it for the reaction. It's your subconscious answer to all the references, which someone can't know are a reference, to a spoiler without being a reader that are posted in this thread.
I spent way too long trying to think of one to put in this post so I give up. I looked back through the thread for ideas and was lost. maybe I'm just tired but I have no idea wtf you just said It actually makes sense but good lord that's hard english to decipher. yea, my first thought was to tell him to stop drinking and posting at the same time, but i worked out the meaning on the 5th read or so. IL, never be a teacher ^^
That is not the obfuscation I was aiming for, sorry.
You leave a couple little things out and it damages the meaning. Who knew?
Maybe I'm in denial about not knowing where those little whores go.
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On April 05 2013 20:39 UdderChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 18:40 Geo.Rion wrote:On April 05 2013 18:00 FrogOfWar wrote:On April 03 2013 03:42 Sabu113 wrote:On April 03 2013 03:02 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
I wonder what stops Daenarys to recruit 8000 soldiers and pillage Astapor with help of dragons? After that slowly capturing Free cities one of the time.
If I would be any of the major houses from Westeros I would start negoating with Daenarys any alliances incase of another Targaryan conquest campaign.Secretly of course. Why? Dragons have been dead for ages so that's probably a rumor and god knows I can't imagine too many major houses care for the goings on over yonder. All three armies over in Westeros are still enough to destroy a small 8000 man force, however good they are. Plus this is their home. They'll have advantages in the terrain and logistics routes. Dany really isn't a concern. How do you know the army sizes? I remember a dialogue between Tywin and his men (or maybe Tyrion) about Robb Stark's force, when Robb tricked him by splitting up his army. Wasn't it something around 2000 men? I assume others might have joined him in the meantime, but still, if that was the number and he can give the Lannisters a fight, then Dany should be able to do something with 8000 pain-proof badasses. From what we know, Robb's host was around 20k when he descended from the North, from which he "sent 2000 to die" as a distraction while with his main army he captured Jaime, scattered his host, then went on to win a battle at Oxcross or whatever it's called. It's a bit confusing, because there is a scene with Tywinn and Littlefinger in which he says the Tyrells are the 3rd largest military force after Stark and Lannister (and at that time Stannis's army was nice and unhurt), meaning that the Stark host is the 2nd largest, which is kinda contrary to the other hints at the army sizes in Westeros, but hey, maybe LF was just wrong, or he specifically meant only the Tyrells, not the Tyrells+their bannermen, and by Stark he meant all the Stark bannermen and allies, who knows. To the point, yes, 8k soldiers are not enough on their own to conqure a continent, even if they are of superior quality. I still think danyeri's plan is to get the dothraki back, then plus the 8k is easily enough surely, even if they refuse to fight the dothraki on open ground, they can control the lands with the fast moving horseback army and starve out the cities. Even if the dothraki arn't part of the plan, i imagine 8k amazing soldier to distract any size army while dragon absolutely anhialate them seems like a fairly legit strategy, and the RUINS of harrenhal tell you something about trying to hide in a castle against dragons. Basically 3 fully grown dragons seem to be equal to any sized army by the sounds of it. P.S Ive never understood dany's "the dragons arnt growing fast enough!", shes young, and has absolutely nothing to do. How impatient is she?
Ya, I dont quiet understand this either. I mean she has 3 dragon.....she basically just need to wait till they a grown and then can take down kingdom easily. To put it in starcraft term, she could of hidden her tech (dragon) till it complete and then just take everyone by surprise and take Kings Landing. She has the late game in the palm of her hands but yet she wants to try and be aggressive in the early game? It rather silly and I guess it basically her being impatient is part of her nature.
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On April 05 2013 18:23 FrogOfWar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 11:47 Gene wrote:On April 04 2013 07:34 Chewbacca. wrote:On April 04 2013 02:26 TrickyGilligan wrote:On April 04 2013 01:23 massivez wrote:
Damn, excellent episode. But now i get why this series isnt for everyone, you have to have alot of patience.
Btw is Jon Snow the only rightheous charachter in the series? The rest of the main cast seem are all gray, even Dany (with the exception of Joffrey ofcourse). Sean Bean was all about honor and duty... and look where that got him. I think it's safe to say that realpolitik is one of the themes of the show, and it goes out of it's way repeatedly to show that traditional values have no place in the harsh reality of King's Landing. That said, I think the Stark children are for the most part pretty innocent, which could explain why bad things keep happening to them. I have nothing but sympathy for Sansa and Arya. I don't have all that much sympathy for Sansa. She was so anxious to be rushed off and married to Jauffre just so that she could be queen, even though he is clearly a prick. Then in the episode with the butcher's son she just keeps silent and doesn't side with Arya (By far the coolest character in the show) even though Arya was clearly right. Arya and Bran are the two I feel bad for...and I guess the youngest Stark even though I don't know anything about him, including his name... He was just a spoiled prick at that point, and heir to the throne. That's nothing something easily held against her. At the time, he hadn't done anything more than scream his name and his rights, much like Daenerys. And it's Jaime. Lolwut, Joffrey swung a sword at Arya in a fury before Sansa's eyes. No reason for Sansa to change her mind about him. And yeah, screw the butcher's boy who did absolutely nothing. And being mad at Ned of all people for killing the wolf when he was only doing it to prevent having him killed by a Lannister asshole and the reason why Robert ordered to kill him purely came from her beloved Joffrey's sadism. I don't think Sansa is evil or something, but for the most part of the first 2 seasons she seemed busy exploring unknown heights of stupidity and then suffering the consequences that anyone half awake would have seen coming from a mile away.
Finally someone who agrees with me. I also forgot about the whole wolf thing, thanks for throwing that in. 
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On April 06 2013 02:45 SheaR619 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 20:39 UdderChaos wrote:On April 05 2013 18:40 Geo.Rion wrote:On April 05 2013 18:00 FrogOfWar wrote:On April 03 2013 03:42 Sabu113 wrote:On April 03 2013 03:02 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
I wonder what stops Daenarys to recruit 8000 soldiers and pillage Astapor with help of dragons? After that slowly capturing Free cities one of the time.
If I would be any of the major houses from Westeros I would start negoating with Daenarys any alliances incase of another Targaryan conquest campaign.Secretly of course. Why? Dragons have been dead for ages so that's probably a rumor and god knows I can't imagine too many major houses care for the goings on over yonder. All three armies over in Westeros are still enough to destroy a small 8000 man force, however good they are. Plus this is their home. They'll have advantages in the terrain and logistics routes. Dany really isn't a concern. How do you know the army sizes? I remember a dialogue between Tywin and his men (or maybe Tyrion) about Robb Stark's force, when Robb tricked him by splitting up his army. Wasn't it something around 2000 men? I assume others might have joined him in the meantime, but still, if that was the number and he can give the Lannisters a fight, then Dany should be able to do something with 8000 pain-proof badasses. From what we know, Robb's host was around 20k when he descended from the North, from which he "sent 2000 to die" as a distraction while with his main army he captured Jaime, scattered his host, then went on to win a battle at Oxcross or whatever it's called. It's a bit confusing, because there is a scene with Tywinn and Littlefinger in which he says the Tyrells are the 3rd largest military force after Stark and Lannister (and at that time Stannis's army was nice and unhurt), meaning that the Stark host is the 2nd largest, which is kinda contrary to the other hints at the army sizes in Westeros, but hey, maybe LF was just wrong, or he specifically meant only the Tyrells, not the Tyrells+their bannermen, and by Stark he meant all the Stark bannermen and allies, who knows. To the point, yes, 8k soldiers are not enough on their own to conqure a continent, even if they are of superior quality. I still think danyeri's plan is to get the dothraki back, then plus the 8k is easily enough surely, even if they refuse to fight the dothraki on open ground, they can control the lands with the fast moving horseback army and starve out the cities. Even if the dothraki arn't part of the plan, i imagine 8k amazing soldier to distract any size army while dragon absolutely anhialate them seems like a fairly legit strategy, and the RUINS of harrenhal tell you something about trying to hide in a castle against dragons. Basically 3 fully grown dragons seem to be equal to any sized army by the sounds of it. P.S Ive never understood dany's "the dragons arnt growing fast enough!", shes young, and has absolutely nothing to do. How impatient is she? Ya, I dont quiet understand this either. I mean she has 3 dragon.....she basically just need to wait till they a grown and then can take down kingdom easily. To put it in starcraft term, she could of hidden her tech (dragon) till it complete and then just take everyone by surprise and take Kings Landing. She has the late game in the palm of her hands but yet she wants to try and be aggressive in the early game? It rather silly and I guess it basically her being impatient is part of her nature.
Letting 3 dragons grow won't go unnoticed so I doubt she can surprise anyone by the time they are fully grown. Besides the kingdoms in Westeros probably expect Dany to make a move anyway if the dragon rumours persist and get more frequent.
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