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jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
April 07 2013 03:18 GMT
#12841
I just assumed that the Iron Islanders burnt the city. Using it as a distraction to escape. I do not think the northern army would have made any deal with them. Especially considering the honor for the son leading the attack.
"I think bringing a toddler to a movie theater is a terrible idea. They are too young to understand what is happening it would be like giving your toddler acid. Bad idea." - Sinensis
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
April 07 2013 03:29 GMT
#12842
On April 07 2013 12:18 jcroisdale wrote:
I just assumed that the Iron Islanders burnt the city. Using it as a distraction to escape. I do not think the northern army would have made any deal with them. Especially considering the honor for the son leading the attack.

Well, Theon is an Iron Islander, so it makes sense that he just forgot to put out the fire and it burnt down Winterfell.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 07 2013 04:20 GMT
#12843
Can't wait for the next episode tomorrow night. So far the production in season 3 is living up to the hype.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
April 07 2013 10:18 GMT
#12844
Walking Dead over, now time for Game of Thrones!!!
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
April 07 2013 18:07 GMT
#12845
I thought this interview with GRRM was rather good.

I debated with myself which thread to put this in. It presents itself early on as aimed at show watchers and readers alike and it never states a direct spoiler. It seems like it would be interesting to both so I decided it could go here for the broader spectrum of fans, BUT that does mean it comes with a couple warnings:

READ THIS:
There is some discussion of characters who are different in the books and the show around 56 minutes in. Specifically at 56:14-56:55 there are a couple of spoilers through inference.
59:41-59:43 has another spoiler through inference via the name he uses for a future event.

Finally the video, which is spoilered to force an extra action requirement to play it and encourage people to read the above for doing so:
+ Show Spoiler +
Read the post before watching this+ Show Spoiler +
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
April 07 2013 19:06 GMT
#12846
On April 07 2013 09:35 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 09:33 Just_a_Moth wrote:
On April 06 2013 08:36 Irrelevant Label wrote:
On April 06 2013 08:33 rezoacken wrote:
On April 06 2013 08:05 IamVirGin wrote:
On April 05 2013 11:24 holdthephone wrote:
Question: Who was involved at Winterfell at the end of season 2? That was unclear to me. They bagged Theon to take him back home, I assume, and weren't there Northern forces surrounding the keep at that point? But then the opening of season 3 shows the whole place is slaughtered. Just confused as to what the hell happened there...

Maybe I shouldn't know yet? lol


This question has intruiged me as well. We know it wasn't the iron-islenders who burned Winterfell, because they betrayed Theon, to "go home", which implies some sort of deal with the northern army (commanded by one of Robbs advisors sons, I belive?). You get Theon, we get to go free. Thus, if we assume this is the case, it would be completely retarded to set Winterfell on fire.

Which means the only remaining option is that the Northerners did it. Seems unreasonable, given that all we've been shown is how popular Robb is, and how devoted all his bannermen is to him, but the simple fact is nothing else is plausible, for me. It wouldn't be a very unexpected twist though. Perhaps there is some old rivalry between the Starks and another northern family, that we don't know about.

Edit: Hrm. I suppose it's possible that Theon's sisters army arrived to defeat the Northern force and re-take Winterfell. But they were far away, weren't they? And why burn it, then?


The ruins Robb "visits" in the middle of this episode aren't Winterfell.


It still stands. There was a slight misidentification earlier in which someone said that burned Winterfell was shown in s3e1, when that was actually Harrenhall. Burned Winterfell was shown in s2e10, and someone had to have burned it.

Maybe Theon just forgot to put out the fire in his fireplace when he left.


I suppose that could be a valid theory. You have to admit it kinda reeks though.

If you troll, and no one sees it, are you really a troll?
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
April 07 2013 19:25 GMT
#12847
On April 08 2013 03:07 Irrelevant Label wrote:
I thought this interview with GRRM was rather good.

I debated with myself which thread to put this in. It presents itself early on as aimed at show watchers and readers alike and it never states a direct spoiler. It seems like it would be interesting to both so I decided it could go here for the broader spectrum of fans, BUT that does mean it comes with a couple warnings:

READ THIS:
There is some discussion of characters who are different in the books and the show around 56 minutes in. Specifically at 56:14-56:55 there are a couple of spoilers through inference.
59:41-59:43 has another spoiler through inference via the name he uses for a future event.

Finally the video, which is spoilered to force an extra action requirement to play it and encourage people to read the above for doing so:
+ Show Spoiler +
Read the post before watching this+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiBPX6ChdtI


Well thanks for ruining my viewing experience! How about making some effort to conceal the terrible spoilers?

+ Show Spoiler +
Obviously kidding, thanks for the link and thanks for being so considerate.
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
April 07 2013 19:27 GMT
#12848
On April 08 2013 03:07 Irrelevant Label wrote:
I thought this interview with GRRM was rather good.

I debated with myself which thread to put this in. It presents itself early on as aimed at show watchers and readers alike and it never states a direct spoiler. It seems like it would be interesting to both so I decided it could go here for the broader spectrum of fans, BUT that does mean it comes with a couple warnings:

READ THIS:
There is some discussion of characters who are different in the books and the show around 56 minutes in. Specifically at 56:14-56:55 there are a couple of spoilers through inference.
59:41-59:43 has another spoiler through inference via the name he uses for a future event.

Finally the video, which is spoilered to force an extra action requirement to play it and encourage people to read the above for doing so:
+ Show Spoiler +
Read the post before watching this+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiBPX6ChdtI

YES. There are some huge spoilers for you non-book readers! Frankly, I'm surprised he said what he said knowing there are a lot of normies who just watch the show there. Kinda funny that GRRM himself is spoiling and not some dude on YouTube
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
illusiongamer
Profile Joined November 2010
Mexico377 Posts
April 07 2013 20:19 GMT
#12849
On April 07 2013 07:59 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 07:26 Blisse wrote:
This is really enjoyable. Episode 1 spoiler.

s3e1 on facebook



that was great thank you lol


That facebook GoT is awesome thanks
"I'm such a fan of hooking" - Kaci Aitchison TI2013
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
April 07 2013 20:42 GMT
#12850
On April 07 2013 09:35 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 09:33 Just_a_Moth wrote:
On April 06 2013 08:36 Irrelevant Label wrote:
On April 06 2013 08:33 rezoacken wrote:
On April 06 2013 08:05 IamVirGin wrote:
On April 05 2013 11:24 holdthephone wrote:
Question: Who was involved at Winterfell at the end of season 2? That was unclear to me. They bagged Theon to take him back home, I assume, and weren't there Northern forces surrounding the keep at that point? But then the opening of season 3 shows the whole place is slaughtered. Just confused as to what the hell happened there...

Maybe I shouldn't know yet? lol


This question has intruiged me as well. We know it wasn't the iron-islenders who burned Winterfell, because they betrayed Theon, to "go home", which implies some sort of deal with the northern army (commanded by one of Robbs advisors sons, I belive?). You get Theon, we get to go free. Thus, if we assume this is the case, it would be completely retarded to set Winterfell on fire.

Which means the only remaining option is that the Northerners did it. Seems unreasonable, given that all we've been shown is how popular Robb is, and how devoted all his bannermen is to him, but the simple fact is nothing else is plausible, for me. It wouldn't be a very unexpected twist though. Perhaps there is some old rivalry between the Starks and another northern family, that we don't know about.

Edit: Hrm. I suppose it's possible that Theon's sisters army arrived to defeat the Northern force and re-take Winterfell. But they were far away, weren't they? And why burn it, then?


The ruins Robb "visits" in the middle of this episode aren't Winterfell.


It still stands. There was a slight misidentification earlier in which someone said that burned Winterfell was shown in s3e1, when that was actually Harrenhall. Burned Winterfell was shown in s2e10, and someone had to have burned it.

Maybe Theon just forgot to put out the fire in his fireplace when he left.


I suppose that could be a valid theory. You have to admit it kinda reeks though.


User was temp banned for this post.


LOL

Too bad you got banned for it
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Ultraliskhero
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
April 07 2013 21:01 GMT
#12851
On April 07 2013 12:18 jcroisdale wrote:
I just assumed that the Iron Islanders burnt the city. Using it as a distraction to escape. I do not think the northern army would have made any deal with them. Especially considering the honor for the son leading the attack.


Actually, before Rob sent the men to Winterfell he said "Any ironborn who surrender will be allowed to return safely to their homes, with the exception of Theon Greyjoy."

But I don't think the iron islanders made a deal with the northmen or anything, because prior to them taking out Theon, there was a scene where the Maester told Theon that there are secret passages to escape Winterfell. The iron islanders may have burnt the city then escaped through the secret passages.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
April 07 2013 21:04 GMT
#12852
On April 08 2013 05:42 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 09:35 Irrelevant Label wrote:
On April 07 2013 09:33 Just_a_Moth wrote:
On April 06 2013 08:36 Irrelevant Label wrote:
On April 06 2013 08:33 rezoacken wrote:
On April 06 2013 08:05 IamVirGin wrote:
On April 05 2013 11:24 holdthephone wrote:
Question: Who was involved at Winterfell at the end of season 2? That was unclear to me. They bagged Theon to take him back home, I assume, and weren't there Northern forces surrounding the keep at that point? But then the opening of season 3 shows the whole place is slaughtered. Just confused as to what the hell happened there...

Maybe I shouldn't know yet? lol


This question has intruiged me as well. We know it wasn't the iron-islenders who burned Winterfell, because they betrayed Theon, to "go home", which implies some sort of deal with the northern army (commanded by one of Robbs advisors sons, I belive?). You get Theon, we get to go free. Thus, if we assume this is the case, it would be completely retarded to set Winterfell on fire.

Which means the only remaining option is that the Northerners did it. Seems unreasonable, given that all we've been shown is how popular Robb is, and how devoted all his bannermen is to him, but the simple fact is nothing else is plausible, for me. It wouldn't be a very unexpected twist though. Perhaps there is some old rivalry between the Starks and another northern family, that we don't know about.

Edit: Hrm. I suppose it's possible that Theon's sisters army arrived to defeat the Northern force and re-take Winterfell. But they were far away, weren't they? And why burn it, then?


The ruins Robb "visits" in the middle of this episode aren't Winterfell.


It still stands. There was a slight misidentification earlier in which someone said that burned Winterfell was shown in s3e1, when that was actually Harrenhall. Burned Winterfell was shown in s2e10, and someone had to have burned it.

Maybe Theon just forgot to put out the fire in his fireplace when he left.


I suppose that could be a valid theory. You have to admit it kinda reeks though.


User was temp banned for this post.


LOL

Too bad you got banned for it

What LOL. I thought he was trying to make a joke or something but I totally didn't get it.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 08 2013 01:27 GMT
#12853
The grandmother is the woman that hosted Masterpiece Mystery.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
April 08 2013 02:03 GMT
#12854
On April 08 2013 06:04 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 05:42 Figgy wrote:
On April 07 2013 09:35 Irrelevant Label wrote:
On April 07 2013 09:33 Just_a_Moth wrote:
On April 06 2013 08:36 Irrelevant Label wrote:
On April 06 2013 08:33 rezoacken wrote:
On April 06 2013 08:05 IamVirGin wrote:
On April 05 2013 11:24 holdthephone wrote:
Question: Who was involved at Winterfell at the end of season 2? That was unclear to me. They bagged Theon to take him back home, I assume, and weren't there Northern forces surrounding the keep at that point? But then the opening of season 3 shows the whole place is slaughtered. Just confused as to what the hell happened there...

Maybe I shouldn't know yet? lol


This question has intruiged me as well. We know it wasn't the iron-islenders who burned Winterfell, because they betrayed Theon, to "go home", which implies some sort of deal with the northern army (commanded by one of Robbs advisors sons, I belive?). You get Theon, we get to go free. Thus, if we assume this is the case, it would be completely retarded to set Winterfell on fire.

Which means the only remaining option is that the Northerners did it. Seems unreasonable, given that all we've been shown is how popular Robb is, and how devoted all his bannermen is to him, but the simple fact is nothing else is plausible, for me. It wouldn't be a very unexpected twist though. Perhaps there is some old rivalry between the Starks and another northern family, that we don't know about.

Edit: Hrm. I suppose it's possible that Theon's sisters army arrived to defeat the Northern force and re-take Winterfell. But they were far away, weren't they? And why burn it, then?


The ruins Robb "visits" in the middle of this episode aren't Winterfell.


It still stands. There was a slight misidentification earlier in which someone said that burned Winterfell was shown in s3e1, when that was actually Harrenhall. Burned Winterfell was shown in s2e10, and someone had to have burned it.

Maybe Theon just forgot to put out the fire in his fireplace when he left.


I suppose that could be a valid theory. You have to admit it kinda reeks though.


User was temp banned for this post.


LOL

Too bad you got banned for it

What LOL. I thought he was trying to make a joke or something but I totally didn't get it.

He got banned for indirect spoilers; don't worry about it. These aren't the droids you're looking for.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 08 2013 02:41 GMT
#12855
Wow Bran's voice got deep.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
FlawlessFeeL
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada88 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 04:00:17
April 08 2013 03:58 GMT
#12856
This episode wasn't boring , but there's wasn't much going on...

EDIT: Since they're doing the third book in 2 seasons(I believe?),it would make sense that the episodes aren't as loaded as in previous seasons.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
April 08 2013 04:16 GMT
#12857
On April 08 2013 11:41 slyboogie wrote:
Wow Bran's voice got deep.


he's growing too quick
you live and you learn
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
April 08 2013 04:50 GMT
#12858
Oh damn at the end of episode 2. Gotta admit though, I'm glad the northerners found them. Would be the shittiest trade ever if Brienne actually got Jaime to King's landing, and you know Tywin wasn't going to uphold the deal. He would just say "thanks for my son back, now you die".
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
April 08 2013 04:52 GMT
#12859
Bran looks so much older now.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 04:59:46
April 08 2013 04:59 GMT
#12860
On April 08 2013 06:01 Ultraliskhero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:18 jcroisdale wrote:
I just assumed that the Iron Islanders burnt the city. Using it as a distraction to escape. I do not think the northern army would have made any deal with them. Especially considering the honor for the son leading the attack.


Actually, before Rob sent the men to Winterfell he said "Any ironborn who surrender will be allowed to return safely to their homes, with the exception of Theon Greyjoy."

But I don't think the iron islanders made a deal with the northmen or anything, because prior to them taking out Theon, there was a scene where the Maester told Theon that there are secret passages to escape Winterfell. The iron islanders may have burnt the city then escaped through the secret passages.
I dont think a secret passage would still be obscured when like 100 burst out of it rapidly [fleeing fire and smoke]. Also the army outside would of [probably] started their assault if they heard cries of slaughter.
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