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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On April 08 2013 17:40 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I think Margery's character is pretty straightforward. That is, doing anything necessary to be the queen. You saw towards the end of the episode she was trying to gain Joffrey's favoritism by hinting that she wanted to be just as brutal and vicious as he was. That's probably why she wanted to talk with Sansa, so she could understand Joffrey's character and adapt to him.
Ya, you are probably right.
But on the other hand the orphanage scene doesn't really fit with this ambitious type of character. So far she just seems a bit "too good to be true", but maybe I am just a bit paranoid because of all the deceiving going on everywhere in GoT.
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On April 08 2013 18:01 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 17:40 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I think Margery's character is pretty straightforward. That is, doing anything necessary to be the queen. You saw towards the end of the episode she was trying to gain Joffrey's favoritism by hinting that she wanted to be just as brutal and vicious as he was. That's probably why she wanted to talk with Sansa, so she could understand Joffrey's character and adapt to him. Ya, you are probably right. But on the other hand the orphanage scene doesn't really fit with this ambitious type of character. So far she just seems a bit "too good to be true", but maybe I am just a bit paranoid because of all the deceiving going on everywhere in GoT.
Well it does. She barely knows Joffrey and by going charitable and likable for common people would work for me (if I would be king). While there were dining she clearly noticed it didn't really had any impact for Joffrey. She started new angle with help Sansas wisdom. Now she found Joffreys true passion. Can she use Joffrey to her adtantage is another thing.
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On April 08 2013 18:15 Too_MuchZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 18:01 Fenrax wrote:On April 08 2013 17:40 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I think Margery's character is pretty straightforward. That is, doing anything necessary to be the queen. You saw towards the end of the episode she was trying to gain Joffrey's favoritism by hinting that she wanted to be just as brutal and vicious as he was. That's probably why she wanted to talk with Sansa, so she could understand Joffrey's character and adapt to him. Ya, you are probably right. But on the other hand the orphanage scene doesn't really fit with this ambitious type of character. So far she just seems a bit "too good to be true", but maybe I am just a bit paranoid because of all the deceiving going on everywhere in GoT. Well it does. She barely knows Joffrey and by going charitable and likable for common people would work for me (if I would be king). While there were dining she clearly noticed it didn't really had any impact for Joffrey. She started new angle with help Sansas wisdom. Now she found Joffreys true passion. Can she use Joffrey to her adtantage is another thing.
Good point. That will be it.
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"Too bad the throne isn't made of cocks, they would never have gotten Renly off of it." gave me a good laugh.
The only way they could have been less subtle about the issue is showing Renly and Loras banging...
I loved the Queen of Thornes-scene. Sansa absolutely nailed it.
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On April 08 2013 16:08 lord_nibbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 14:32 TealHorseman wrote:
I just love how they treat fat people in GoT xD. And women and gays and dwarfs and 'traitor' family members...
don't forget eunuchs :p
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All in all a decent ep. Mostly boring throughout, but gets good towards the end.
Margery is rather well done in character. They've managed to keep her intriguing in that it's hard to grasp whether she's truly kind at heart, or one of the most diabolically manipulative characters in the series.
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On April 08 2013 17:48 Fortidei wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 16:23 Archers_bane wrote:
This Queen of Thorns is really cool, like down to Earth. Man I need to catch up on the books, just started second one! Small note about the conversation with Sansa. In order to gain her trust she does two things: 1. She gossips about her own familly (her late husband and Lord Tyrell her son). 2. She admits to treason by siding with Renly. But that's the thing. As argument she states that Renly was second in line after Stannis . Se doesn't mention Jeoffrey at all. This incriminates her because basically she says she shares the view of Ned Stark regarding the succession to the throne. This also implies that she knows Jeoffrey is a product of incest and might suspect that he is mad like the some of the Targaryens who were known for incest.
She said "Robert has two sons and Renly has an older brother"
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Damn true :X
The music, Cat's acting, the story ... nearly made me cry :D
I think the scene with cait talking about how she couldn't love john snow was the best, the emotion portrayed in that scene was so powerful.
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I guess most of the episode was indeed quite uneventful and bland, but overall the episode was still really good. 4 new encounters occurred, and despite one being very boring (Jojen Reed), the other 3 were quite interesting (Brotherhood without Banners, House Bolton, Queen of Thornes).
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Germany25657 Posts
Brienne kicks ass at swordfighting 
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On April 08 2013 20:47 KadaverBB wrote:Brienne kicks ass at swordfighting
more like he spent a year in captivity
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Having read the books, I am extremely happy the producers are splitting book 3 into 2 seasons. They are able to show more characters and give more detail into events than they were able to in season 2. Additionally, the amount of content featured in the 3rd book is massive; if they had tried to fit it into one season, the narrative would suffer IMO.
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On April 08 2013 21:26 Erasme wrote:more like he spent a year in captivity
and his hands were still bound lol
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Germany25657 Posts
On April 08 2013 21:26 Erasme wrote:more like he spent a year in captivity
Yes I know. I didn't mean to imply that she is better than him. It was still a cool fight and she seems to be pretty good at swordfighting 
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I love how Joffrey is getting played by Margery. She is manipulating him with her act and at the same time it makes Cersei dig her hole deeper with Joffrey because she has no control over anything and it seems like Joffrey is just tired of her. Even more so now when his narcissistic self feel the need to always put himself in a good light for Margery in whatever the topic is. During all this she is also building up a trust and repetition with the people by doing her good deeds and her down to earth act.
Cersei knows for sure that Margery is winning the game for now, so I wonder how she will try to stop it? This storyline has become really interesting.
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On April 08 2013 22:26 Gosi wrote:
I love how Joffrey is getting played by Margery. She is manipulating him with her act and at the same time it makes Cersei dig her hole deeper with Joffrey because she has no control over anything and it seems like Joffrey is just tired of her. Even more so now when his narcissistic self feel the need to always put himself in a good light for Margery in whatever the topic is. During all this she is also building up a trust and repetition with the people by doing her good deeds and her down to earth act.
Cersei knows for sure that Margery is winning the game for now, so I wonder how she will try to stop it? This storyline has become really interesting.
Yeah ever since the dinner table scene in the first episode it's been clear that cercei is uncomfortable with maegery. Knowing Cersei she will probably try come up with a scheme to ruin maegeries reputation.
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On April 08 2013 06:01 Ultraliskhero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:18 jcroisdale wrote:
I just assumed that the Iron Islanders burnt the city. Using it as a distraction to escape. I do not think the northern army would have made any deal with them. Especially considering the honor for the son leading the attack. Actually, before Rob sent the men to Winterfell he said "Any ironborn who surrender will be allowed to return safely to their homes, with the exception of Theon Greyjoy." But I don't think the iron islanders made a deal with the northmen or anything, because prior to them taking out Theon, there was a scene where the Maester told Theon that there are secret passages to escape Winterfell. The iron islanders may have burnt the city then escaped through the secret passages.
I think it's the ones who "freed" winterfell. Those who made the deal with the iron islanders and captured Theon, but we don't know who they are yet.
Probably one Northern tribe that isn't so loyal to the starks after all and seized the opportunity to get rid of them now they are weak and far away.
Btw what exactly does burning a castle like that do to it?
I understand the houses and interiors burn, but the castle itself?
I mean Harrenhall was destroyed by fire but that was dragonfire. Surely Winterfell will have a bit darker stones but can be patched up?
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Somewhat slow episode and not a single scene with our lovely Khaleesi 
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Australia285 Posts
imo Margery isn't looking to be joffery's queen - she wants to be THE queen.
I think thats why she was helping at the orphanage - building the favour of the people in preparation for taking the throne from joffery
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On April 08 2013 23:37 Meatex wrote:
imo Margery isn't looking to be joffery's queen - she wants to be THE queen.
I think thats why she was helping at the orphanage - building the favour of the people in preparation for taking the throne from joffery
She cannot take the throne from anyone, woman cannot rule in their world. At best she can be queen regent until she would get married again or if she had a boy that was underage.
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