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Fryght
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 10:44:00
April 19 2011 10:41 GMT
#1181
I thought it felt a bit rushed. To people who did not read the books, the part with the direwolves doesn't make any sense. They don't explain that one guy is the bastard and that he doesn't mind not having a pup and then gets the albino one. Only later with the Imp they stress that Jon is a bastard, but then he looks different. All a bit confusing, imo.

Also, the part with the barbarian girls with their chest covered but titties out was a bit weird as well. Either don't have them have their titties out or have them topless. Now it felt like tacked on nudity, to me.

They should really do a who's who with this many characters, imo. Maybe they'll do that still.
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
April 19 2011 11:00 GMT
#1182
On April 19 2011 19:41 Fryght wrote:

They should really do a who's who with this many characters, imo. Maybe they'll do that still.


They did character features for every major character. It's been on HBO.com and youtube for like a month.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 19 2011 11:16 GMT
#1183
On April 19 2011 19:41 Fryght wrote:
I thought it felt a bit rushed. To people who did not read the books, the part with the direwolves doesn't make any sense. They don't explain that one guy is the bastard and that he doesn't mind not having a pup and then gets the albino one. Only later with the Imp they stress that Jon is a bastard, but then he looks different. All a bit confusing, imo.

Also, the part with the barbarian girls with their chest covered but titties out was a bit weird as well. Either don't have them have their titties out or have them topless. Now it felt like tacked on nudity, to me.

They should really do a who's who with this many characters, imo. Maybe they'll do that still.

Yes, the wolf scene was a bit too short, they probably should have also put in the scene where they share the pups between the children and give them names.

Jon being a bastard is the not the center of this story and universe and does not need to be stressed from the start. Jon's story does not become really important until book 2/3 anyways.

Barbarians were having a celebration. They can do whatever they want with their clothes when they are all drunk.
Ceril
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden1343 Posts
April 19 2011 11:20 GMT
#1184
On April 19 2011 19:41 Fryght wrote:
I thought it felt a bit rushed. To people who did not read the books, the part with the direwolves doesn't make any sense. They don't explain that one guy is the bastard and that he doesn't mind not having a pup and then gets the albino one. Only later with the Imp they stress that Jon is a bastard, but then he looks different. All a bit confusing, imo.

Also, the part with the barbarian girls with their chest covered but titties out was a bit weird as well. Either don't have them have their titties out or have them topless. Now it felt like tacked on nudity, to me.

They should really do a who's who with this many characters, imo. Maybe they'll do that still.


I loved how they dont say Jon is a bastard outright till later, but its there from his first few lines and the glances for thoose thinking about it. 'Father' 'Your mother'
Dothraki were abit meh, to quick paces with Visy and Dany. But I suppose its sacrifaces they have to do.

To much tits! With such little time to introduce characters and story elements, do we realy need to spend a third of the show watching titties as a main focus =(

Absolutely love the characters, Cersei is beautifull but they need better lightning/makeup to bring it out. The dog helmet flapping in the wind was abit silly :-/ Need to strap that visor down!
Just because you can now store where everyone was and is, what they like, what they fear who they talk to and who they love. It does not mean we should so spy upon our fellow man in a dystopia far worse then 1984
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 11:30:16
April 19 2011 11:26 GMT
#1185
I think in the book they say that the dothraki men and woman wear leather chests over bare chests. Tits were fine :p.
I didn't like the wedding either though, it felt forced. The whole dancing and the fight over the woman didn't feel right.
bLah.
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 12:03:25
April 19 2011 11:31 GMT
#1186
On April 19 2011 20:26 quarky wrote:
I think in the book they say that the dothraki men and woman wear leather chests over bare chests. Tits were fine :p.
I didn't like the wedding either though, it felt forced. The whole dancing and the fight over the woman didn't feel right.


only thing that didn't feel right is how that guy was trying to have sex with a woman with his pants still on. kinda failed there.
ellerina
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines452 Posts
April 19 2011 11:32 GMT
#1187
Some of the twitter reactions to the first episode are pretty hilarious. My favorites:

@Booshette: I FEEL LIKE I’M GETTING WHIPLASH BETWEEN ALL THE BOOBS AND MURDER AND BOOBS AND MEAT AND WOLVES AND BOOBS

@NerdAndAHalf: WHAT THE FUUUUUUCK?!!!! YOU CAN’T PUSH CHILDREN OFF TOWERS, YOU WANKER!!!!!!!!

@RyanJGrant: Dragon eggs? More like unripe pineapples!

@igobymanynames: Oh God naked torsos and the prettyboys talking about making themselves PRETTY for the King

@mcgee_gorgo: Drogo looks like Mike the Situation grew a ponytail and raided John Barrowman’s cosmetics cabinet.

@NerdAndAHalf: ‘She’s neglected to wear ye oldie bra!’ – my brother

@Miketakon: DAT BEARD PONYTAIL.

@Zesmerelda: Disturbed that Boromir hasn’t washed his hair since LotR.

@jillianbowe: Little person looks like Perez Hilton.


Taken from this site: http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/04/atwitter-for-thrones/#more-7436
Still round the corner there may wait , A new road or a secret gate /And though I oft have passed them by, A day will come at last when I /Shall take the hidden paths that run/West of the Moon, East of the Sun
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
April 19 2011 11:36 GMT
#1188
On April 19 2011 20:31 bLah. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 20:26 quarky wrote:
I think in the book they say that the dothraki men and woman wear leather chests over bare chests. Tits were fine :p.
I didn't like the wedding either though, it felt forced. The whole dancing and the fight over the woman didn't feel right.


only think that didn't feel right is how that guy was trying to have sex with a woman with his pants still on. kinda failed there.

that weirded me out a little
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Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 11:54:37
April 19 2011 11:39 GMT
#1189
Watched the first episode last night, I thought it was amazing

Even thought my favourite character + Show Spoiler +
was killed in the first episode -.-, that prince was cute man, I hope in a twist of events, he actually doesn't die from that fall


Someone who read the books, please spoil me:
+ Show Spoiler +
Did the little prince die?
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 11:59:05
April 19 2011 11:58 GMT
#1190
On April 19 2011 20:39 Tschis wrote:
Watched the first episode last night, I thought it was amazing

Even thought my favourite character + Show Spoiler +
was killed in the first episode -.-, that prince was cute man, I hope in a twist of events, he actually doesn't die from that fall


Someone who read the books, please spoil me:
+ Show Spoiler +
Did the little prince die?


+ Show Spoiler +
He did not, + Show Spoiler +
in fact he is one of the major-major characters that seems to live longer than average. Atm (end of 4th book) he is headed north to learn some serious magic.


Also, he is not prince + Show Spoiler +
yet
, as his father is not king.
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
April 19 2011 12:31 GMT
#1191
As a person who watched this knowing nothing it was very confusing. I had no idea who everyone was what role they play, or are going to play. I'll give it a few episodes. Production value looks good and I guesse if it's a good show I might actually need to read the books.
Dystisis
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway713 Posts
April 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#1192
On April 19 2011 21:31 Marradron wrote:
As a person who watched this knowing nothing it was very confusing. I had no idea who everyone was what role they play, or are going to play. I'll give it a few episodes. Production value looks good and I guesse if it's a good show I might actually need to read the books.

If the books are anything to go by (which they should be, as the series is very faithful to them) your confusion will fade gradually until you feel you know pretty much what's up in two-three episodes. At that point in the books I felt I knew the characters and the lay of the land. Of course, the story is pretty interesting so it turns out predictions prove wrong, and so on.

But my point is, even in the books readers are confused over the amount of characters and the political landscape for a good while until they feel they know them.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 19 2011 12:56 GMT
#1193
On April 19 2011 21:31 Marradron wrote:
As a person who watched this knowing nothing it was very confusing. I had no idea who everyone was what role they play, or are going to play. I'll give it a few episodes. Production value looks good and I guesse if it's a good show I might actually need to read the books.

Yea, don't worry, even the book up until this point (and much longer) still leave you confused. The world is so big and the story so huge even the writer got confused :D and needed about 4 years on average per book (and there are 4 currently out with 5th coming this summer).
dementrio
Profile Joined November 2010
678 Posts
April 19 2011 12:57 GMT
#1194
I did not read the books and the only thing I think was very unclear was the very beginning, with the zombies and dogs. It's obscure whether the wolves are dangerous, a bad omen or what, and if they have any connection with the zombies. it's obvious they are an important plot device only because you know they would not put 10 minutes of their show into how young noblemen got their pets otherwise.
AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
April 19 2011 12:58 GMT
#1195
I thought it was pretty good. Havent read the books but I enjoy the gloomy/gritty feel of the Winterfell keep. Very sharp contrast from the sunny coast where the blonde fairy prince who'd have his sister fucked by all 40 000 barbarians and their horses currently resides.
Driven by hate, fueled by rage
bLah.
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 13:06:47
April 19 2011 13:01 GMT
#1196
On April 19 2011 21:57 dementrio wrote:
I did not read the books and the only thing I think was very unclear was the very beginning, with the zombies and dogs. It's obscure whether the wolves are dangerous, a bad omen or what, and if they have any connection with the zombies. it's obvious they are an important plot device only because you know they would not put 10 minutes of their show into how young noblemen got their pets otherwise.


Those direwolves haven't been seen on southern side of the wall for a very long time. "The Wall" is basically great wall on north of the continent which divides Westeros and that northern part where wild people, animals and those "zombies" live.

wolves become more important later on because of their connection with children who got them, and those "zombies" get more focus in later books.


1 more thing for people who haven't read the books. When they say "winter is coming" you need to know that their seasons are not like ours. They are not regular and don't last 1 year. For example they had summer for like 10 years and now they expect pretty hard winter so shit is coming.




all in all, I would really recommend reading the books before watching this. There is just so much info in books which couldn't be put into series so everything is explained quite badly. All the scenes feel kinda random if you don't know what are character connections etc. For example, those targaryens (white hair chick and her brother), their family and history is quite poorly explained.
On the other hand, those who have read all books have nice nerdgasms because most of the scenes are those which you remember when you read and feeling in series is quite good.
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
April 19 2011 13:11 GMT
#1197
On April 19 2011 17:39 snotboogie wrote:
Agreed about Lena Headey not being the right choice for Cersei. I love Lena Headey but she's totally opposite to the character. Cersei is not meant to be as introspective and perceiving; one of her biggest flaws is that she is blind to her own place in things even as she schemes with others' lives. Lena Headey has eyes of knowledge and wisdom - which made her perfect as Sarah Connor. She is just misplaced here; I feel that she would have made an awesome Catelyn.


+ Show Spoiler +
Whilst I dont disagree with your points, I believe Cersei's flaws only become exaggerated after she and Jaime are split and again when her father is killed... she gradually becomes more and more paranoid. We will see if the actress chooses to pursue this path, which I would welcome; or not.
bLah.
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia497 Posts
April 19 2011 13:17 GMT
#1198
On April 19 2011 22:11 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 17:39 snotboogie wrote:
Agreed about Lena Headey not being the right choice for Cersei. I love Lena Headey but she's totally opposite to the character. Cersei is not meant to be as introspective and perceiving; one of her biggest flaws is that she is blind to her own place in things even as she schemes with others' lives. Lena Headey has eyes of knowledge and wisdom - which made her perfect as Sarah Connor. She is just misplaced here; I feel that she would have made an awesome Catelyn.


+ Show Spoiler +
Whilst I dont disagree with your points, I believe Cersei's flaws only become exaggerated after she and Jaime are split and again when her father is killed... she gradually becomes more and more paranoid. We will see if the actress chooses to pursue this path, which I would welcome; or not.


+ Show Spoiler +
while it's true that she doesn't really start scheming from the begining, Lena Headey just doesn't have that "bitch" look. She looks like some good wife.

Take a look at some artworks:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Hxp2Iix2wLg/S-_YvI8Rq9I/AAAAAAAAAtM/e55kuy0mfg8/s1600/Cersei_Seated_by_jezebel.jpg
http://www.komarckart.com/agot_05.jpg
That's how everyone imagined her.
Something like this girl:
http://www.mankenresimlerim.com/data/media/268/Sienna_Guillory_eragon.JPG
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15361 Posts
April 19 2011 13:33 GMT
#1199
On November 16 2008 01:10 Fzero wrote:
Gonna be epic.

+ Show Spoiler +
Pilot should stop when Bran gets pushed out of the window, before he hits the ground.

nice.
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Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
April 19 2011 13:37 GMT
#1200
On April 19 2011 22:33 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2008 01:10 Fzero wrote:
Gonna be epic.

+ Show Spoiler +
Pilot should stop when Bran gets pushed out of the window, before he hits the ground.

nice.


+ Show Spoiler +
I'm asking you guys to spoil me!! Does he die? I can't wait 1 week to find out and I don't have time to read the books =P
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
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