[TV] HBO Game of Thrones - Page 60

All book discussion in this thread is now allowed.

Fryght

Netherlands254 Posts

April 19 2011 10:41 GMT

#1181

I thought it felt a bit rushed. To people who did not read the books, the part with the direwolves doesn't make any sense. They don't explain that one guy is the bastard and that he doesn't mind not having a pup and then gets the albino one. Only later with the Imp they stress that Jon is a bastard, but then he looks different. All a bit confusing, imo.

Also, the part with the barbarian girls with their chest covered but titties out was a bit weird as well. Either don't have them have their titties out or have them topless. Now it felt like tacked on nudity, to me.

They should really do a who's who with this many characters, imo. Maybe they'll do that still.

Acid~

Thailand442 Posts

April 19 2011 11:00 GMT

#1182

On April 19 2011 19:41 Fryght wrote:

They should really do a who's who with this many characters, imo. Maybe they'll do that still.

They did character features for every major character. It's been on HBO.com and youtube for like a month.

-Archangel-

Croatia7457 Posts

April 19 2011 11:16 GMT

#1183

On April 19 2011 19:41 Fryght wrote:
I thought it felt a bit rushed. To people who did not read the books, the part with the direwolves doesn't make any sense. They don't explain that one guy is the bastard and that he doesn't mind not having a pup and then gets the albino one. Only later with the Imp they stress that Jon is a bastard, but then he looks different. All a bit confusing, imo.

Also, the part with the barbarian girls with their chest covered but titties out was a bit weird as well. Either don't have them have their titties out or have them topless. Now it felt like tacked on nudity, to me.

They should really do a who's who with this many characters, imo. Maybe they'll do that still.

Yes, the wolf scene was a bit too short, they probably should have also put in the scene where they share the pups between the children and give them names.

Jon being a bastard is the not the center of this story and universe and does not need to be stressed from the start. Jon's story does not become really important until book 2/3 anyways.

Barbarians were having a celebration. They can do whatever they want with their clothes when they are all drunk.

Ceril

Sweden1343 Posts

April 19 2011 11:20 GMT

#1184

I loved how they dont say Jon is a bastard outright till later, but its there from his first few lines and the glances for thoose thinking about it. 'Father' 'Your mother'
Dothraki were abit meh, to quick paces with Visy and Dany. But I suppose its sacrifaces they have to do.

To much tits! With such little time to introduce characters and story elements, do we realy need to spend a third of the show watching titties as a main focus =(

Absolutely love the characters, Cersei is beautifull but they need better lightning/makeup to bring it out. The dog helmet flapping in the wind was abit silly :-/ Need to strap that visor down!

duckii

Germany1017 Posts

April 19 2011 11:26 GMT

#1185

I think in the book they say that the dothraki men and woman wear leather chests over bare chests. Tits were fine :p.
I didn't like the wedding either though, it felt forced. The whole dancing and the fight over the woman didn't feel right.

bLah.

Croatia497 Posts

April 19 2011 11:31 GMT

#1186

On April 19 2011 20:26 quarky wrote:
I think in the book they say that the dothraki men and woman wear leather chests over bare chests. Tits were fine :p.
I didn't like the wedding either though, it felt forced. The whole dancing and the fight over the woman didn't feel right.

only thing that didn't feel right is how that guy was trying to have sex with a woman with his pants still on. kinda failed there.

ellerina

Philippines452 Posts

April 19 2011 11:32 GMT

#1187

Some of the twitter reactions to the first episode are pretty hilarious. My favorites:

@Booshette: I FEEL LIKE I’M GETTING WHIPLASH BETWEEN ALL THE BOOBS AND MURDER AND BOOBS AND MEAT AND WOLVES AND BOOBS

@NerdAndAHalf: WHAT THE FUUUUUUCK?!!!! YOU CAN’T PUSH CHILDREN OFF TOWERS, YOU WANKER!!!!!!!!

@RyanJGrant: Dragon eggs? More like unripe pineapples!

@igobymanynames: Oh God naked torsos and the prettyboys talking about making themselves PRETTY for the King

@mcgee_gorgo: Drogo looks like Mike the Situation grew a ponytail and raided John Barrowman’s cosmetics cabinet.

@NerdAndAHalf: ‘She’s neglected to wear ye oldie bra!’ – my brother

@Miketakon: DAT BEARD PONYTAIL.

@Zesmerelda: Disturbed that Boromir hasn’t washed his hair since LotR.

@jillianbowe: Little person looks like Perez Hilton.

Taken from this site: http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/04/atwitter-for-thrones/#more-7436

Liquid`Nazgul

22427 Posts

April 19 2011 11:36 GMT

#1188

On April 19 2011 20:31 bLah. wrote:

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only think that didn't feel right is how that guy was trying to have sex with a woman with his pants still on. kinda failed there.

that weirded me out a little

Tschis

Brazil1511 Posts

April 19 2011 11:39 GMT

#1189

Watched the first episode last night, I thought it was amazing

Even thought my favourite character + Show Spoiler +

was killed in the first episode -.-, that prince was cute man, I hope in a twist of events, he actually doesn't die from that fall

Someone who read the books, please spoil me:
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Did the little prince die?

shinarit

Hungary900 Posts

April 19 2011 11:58 GMT

#1190

On April 19 2011 20:39 Tschis wrote:
Watched the first episode last night, I thought it was amazing

Even thought my favourite character + Show Spoiler +

was killed in the first episode -.-, that prince was cute man, I hope in a twist of events, he actually doesn't die from that fall

Someone who read the books, please spoil me:
+ Show Spoiler +

Did the little prince die?

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He did not, + Show Spoiler +

in fact he is one of the major-major characters that seems to live longer than average. Atm (end of 4th book) he is headed north to learn some serious magic.

Also, he is not prince + Show Spoiler +

yet

, as his father is not king.

Marradron

Netherlands1586 Posts

April 19 2011 12:31 GMT

#1191

As a person who watched this knowing nothing it was very confusing. I had no idea who everyone was what role they play, or are going to play. I'll give it a few episodes. Production value looks good and I guesse if it's a good show I might actually need to read the books.

Dystisis

Norway713 Posts

April 19 2011 12:41 GMT

#1192

On April 19 2011 21:31 Marradron wrote:
As a person who watched this knowing nothing it was very confusing. I had no idea who everyone was what role they play, or are going to play. I'll give it a few episodes. Production value looks good and I guesse if it's a good show I might actually need to read the books.

If the books are anything to go by (which they should be, as the series is very faithful to them) your confusion will fade gradually until you feel you know pretty much what's up in two-three episodes. At that point in the books I felt I knew the characters and the lay of the land. Of course, the story is pretty interesting so it turns out predictions prove wrong, and so on.

But my point is, even in the books readers are confused over the amount of characters and the political landscape for a good while until they feel they know them.

-Archangel-

Croatia7457 Posts

April 19 2011 12:56 GMT

#1193

Yea, don't worry, even the book up until this point (and much longer) still leave you confused. The world is so big and the story so huge even the writer got confused :D and needed about 4 years on average per book (and there are 4 currently out with 5th coming this summer).

dementrio

678 Posts

April 19 2011 12:57 GMT

#1194

I did not read the books and the only thing I think was very unclear was the very beginning, with the zombies and dogs. It's obscure whether the wolves are dangerous, a bad omen or what, and if they have any connection with the zombies. it's obvious they are an important plot device only because you know they would not put 10 minutes of their show into how young noblemen got their pets otherwise.

AeroGear

Canada652 Posts

April 19 2011 12:58 GMT

#1195

I thought it was pretty good. Havent read the books but I enjoy the gloomy/gritty feel of the Winterfell keep. Very sharp contrast from the sunny coast where the blonde fairy prince who'd have his sister fucked by all 40 000 barbarians and their horses currently resides.

bLah.

Croatia497 Posts

April 19 2011 13:01 GMT

#1196

On April 19 2011 21:57 dementrio wrote:
I did not read the books and the only thing I think was very unclear was the very beginning, with the zombies and dogs. It's obscure whether the wolves are dangerous, a bad omen or what, and if they have any connection with the zombies. it's obvious they are an important plot device only because you know they would not put 10 minutes of their show into how young noblemen got their pets otherwise.

Those direwolves haven't been seen on southern side of the wall for a very long time. "The Wall" is basically great wall on north of the continent which divides Westeros and that northern part where wild people, animals and those "zombies" live.

wolves become more important later on because of their connection with children who got them, and those "zombies" get more focus in later books.

1 more thing for people who haven't read the books. When they say "winter is coming" you need to know that their seasons are not like ours. They are not regular and don't last 1 year. For example they had summer for like 10 years and now they expect pretty hard winter so shit is coming.

all in all, I would really recommend reading the books before watching this. There is just so much info in books which couldn't be put into series so everything is explained quite badly. All the scenes feel kinda random if you don't know what are character connections etc. For example, those targaryens (white hair chick and her brother), their family and history is quite poorly explained.
On the other hand, those who have read all books have nice nerdgasms because most of the scenes are those which you remember when you read and feeling in series is quite good.

Eishi_Ki

Korea (South)1667 Posts

April 19 2011 13:11 GMT

#1197

On April 19 2011 17:39 snotboogie wrote:
Agreed about Lena Headey not being the right choice for Cersei. I love Lena Headey but she's totally opposite to the character. Cersei is not meant to be as introspective and perceiving; one of her biggest flaws is that she is blind to her own place in things even as she schemes with others' lives. Lena Headey has eyes of knowledge and wisdom - which made her perfect as Sarah Connor. She is just misplaced here; I feel that she would have made an awesome Catelyn.

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Whilst I dont disagree with your points, I believe Cersei's flaws only become exaggerated after she and Jaime are split and again when her father is killed... she gradually becomes more and more paranoid. We will see if the actress chooses to pursue this path, which I would welcome; or not.

bLah.

Croatia497 Posts

April 19 2011 13:17 GMT

#1198

On April 19 2011 22:11 Eishi_Ki wrote:

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while it's true that she doesn't really start scheming from the begining, Lena Headey just doesn't have that "bitch" look. She looks like some good wife.

Take a look at some artworks:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Hxp2Iix2wLg/S-_YvI8Rq9I/AAAAAAAAAtM/e55kuy0mfg8/s1600/Cersei_Seated_by_jezebel.jpg
http://www.komarckart.com/agot_05.jpg
That's how everyone imagined her.
Something like this girl:
http://www.mankenresimlerim.com/data/media/268/Sienna_Guillory_eragon.JPG