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On May 05 2012 03:03 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 02:57 p4NDemik wrote:On May 05 2012 00:46 Tewks44 wrote:On May 05 2012 00:39 zimms wrote:
With days, like we do?
We don't use Ice Ages, why should they use their winters. our seasons are based on the orbit of the sun around the earth, which in turn, is what gives rise to seasons. Even with Ice ages there is a regular and predictable change in climate and (more importantly) a predictable and regular change in the length of days. It is a completely valid question. It's not like we just pulled 365 days/year out of our butts, so why should we expect the people of Westeros to just decide on an arbitrary number of days per year. Just want to stop you before you say this out in public and get laughed at. Its earth around the sun.  LOL I had a flashback that I was sitting in the jury of one of Galio's sentencing listening to the Church proclaim the earth as the center planet while reading this post.
Sorry but no flashbacks allowed in this thread, in respect of the show :D
+ Show Spoiler +The show-runners don't want flashbacks in the show, feeling it would ruin its authenticity, hehe
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On May 05 2012 14:13 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 13:50 Cuh wrote:
So I just seen the last episode, can someone elighten me on who was killed at the end? And does she get two more men to have killed?
The Tickler was killed at the end. The Ticker was previously shown as the director of the torture that Arya saw happening in Harrenhal. The Tickler was a knight in service of The Mountain. Jaqen told Arya that she must give him exactly three names. The Tickler was the first name, so presumably she has two more names to give. This whole section of story is done very differently in the books, so I really cant elaborate any more than that.
So someone mentioned non-book readers wouldn't get why Arya didn't just say Tywin or Geoffrey's names, or even the 3 of the however-many-there-are kings fighting for the crown.....can someone explain?
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On May 05 2012 15:47 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 14:13 hzflank wrote:On May 05 2012 13:50 Cuh wrote:
So I just seen the last episode, can someone elighten me on who was killed at the end? And does she get two more men to have killed?
The Tickler was killed at the end. The Ticker was previously shown as the director of the torture that Arya saw happening in Harrenhal. The Tickler was a knight in service of The Mountain. Jaqen told Arya that she must give him exactly three names. The Tickler was the first name, so presumably she has two more names to give. This whole section of story is done very differently in the books, so I really cant elaborate any more than that. So someone mentioned non-book readers wouldn't get why Arya didn't just say Tywin or Geoffrey's names, or even the 3 of the however-many-there-are kings fighting for the crown.....can someone explain?
Well, she's just a kid. Also, i don't think she was convinced that the guy would really kill just anyone. I mean, how could a random dude kill the king who is miles away, for instance. The Tickler was maybe the first "easy" target that came into her head. He's done awful things to the prisoners. I agree it seems kind of weird, but I think she just wasn't convinced + she's not exactly mature enough right now.
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Cool spoiler, maybe you should read the warning at the top of the page.
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On May 05 2012 15:47 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 14:13 hzflank wrote:On May 05 2012 13:50 Cuh wrote:
So I just seen the last episode, can someone elighten me on who was killed at the end? And does she get two more men to have killed?
The Tickler was killed at the end. The Ticker was previously shown as the director of the torture that Arya saw happening in Harrenhal. The Tickler was a knight in service of The Mountain. Jaqen told Arya that she must give him exactly three names. The Tickler was the first name, so presumably she has two more names to give. This whole section of story is done very differently in the books, so I really cant elaborate any more than that. So someone mentioned non-book readers wouldn't get why Arya didn't just say Tywin or Geoffrey's names, or even the 3 of the however-many-there-are kings fighting for the crown.....can someone explain?
I think it makes sense that she chose him first. She probably sees the Tickler quite often, which means she could see if he would really die. Tywin on the other hand is kind of her protector at the moment, if he just died, who would stop the soldiers from raping, torturing and/or killing her (not because they think she killed him, just because they want to)?
And what Smat wrote wasn't a spoiler, but is it really so hard not to mention the book at all? I really don't want to know what's different in the book, if someone does, send them a pm...
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On May 05 2012 17:03 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 16:41 Smat wrote:+ Show Spoiler +In the books her first "kill" if you will was a little bit more of a personal tormentor, so it made more sense that she would jump at the chance to kill him. In the show it was presented as "well that guys a torturer, hes bad, kill him" which was a little more general and made it harder to understand why she didn't pick someone more important. Also she is a little girl, they probably would not being thinking all that clear under so much stress. Cool spoiler, maybe you should read the warning at the top of the page.
I dont think that was a spoiler at all. Even if we totally ignore the books we get the same thing.
In the scene where she has no name a man to die, Arya does not know whether Jaqen is actually going to kill them. For all she knows he is trying to trick her into giving him a reason to kill her. If she says Tywin he might tell the Lannisters that she wants to kill Tywin, so she has to pick someone less important.
The way I see it she had two choices. She could pick The Ticker because she does not want him to keep torturing people, or she could pick Polliver because he stole her sword (and killed the boy). Even picking the Mountain or Armoru Lorch would be too risky until she knows that she can trust Jaqen.
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Explaining how the book is different is spoiling the book.
Hard to understand, yes?
NO BOOK DISCUSSION! This thread is basically for viewers who have not read the books. If you have, be very careful about what you post.
Use this thread to talk freely about book stuff concerning the show.
Do NOT post/request links to illegal downloads/streams etc.
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- You guys are so wrong about stuff! (NOT ALLOWED)
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On May 05 2012 17:18 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 17:03 Cel.erity wrote:On May 05 2012 16:41 Smat wrote:+ Show Spoiler +In the books her first "kill" if you will was a little bit more of a personal tormentor, so it made more sense that she would jump at the chance to kill him. In the show it was presented as "well that guys a torturer, hes bad, kill him" which was a little more general and made it harder to understand why she didn't pick someone more important. Also she is a little girl, they probably would not being thinking all that clear under so much stress. Cool spoiler, maybe you should read the warning at the top of the page. I dont think that was a spoiler at all. Even if we totally ignore the books we get the same thing.
He gave a clear hint as to who she chooses in the books, I don't see how that can not be considered a spoiler. Even if it isn't a major spoiler, I heavily dislike all these people coming into the thread talking about how the book and show differ. If you can't talk about the show without comparing it to the book, then use the other thread.
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I will have to make this my last post in this thread then, or I will end up with a ban. But I will add that this thread is full of people using information from the books to answer questions that people ask about the show. In fact, that is probably the main purpose of this thread. If everyone who has read the books were to stop posting then it would just be questions with few answers.
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Stop asking questions that can't be answered with show-only knowledge if you don't want the "spoilers" from the book.
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As i said a few pages ago, if you want to know something that might contain spoilers from the book, write me a PM.
I will answer as best i can without spoiling anything else (unless you ask me to)
I have read the first 3 books 1 week ago, currently in the fourth, so the details are fresh in my mind.
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On May 05 2012 19:32 zodde wrote:
Stop asking questions that can't be answered with show-only knowledge if you don't want the "spoilers" from the book.
So because some people ask specifically for knowledge from the book, everybody that reads here should just have to deal with spoilers all over the place?
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Tone is getting a bit hostile! remember your courtesies ladies 
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On May 05 2012 17:53 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 17:18 hzflank wrote:On May 05 2012 17:03 Cel.erity wrote:On May 05 2012 16:41 Smat wrote:+ Show Spoiler +In the books her first "kill" if you will was a little bit more of a personal tormentor, so it made more sense that she would jump at the chance to kill him. In the show it was presented as "well that guys a torturer, hes bad, kill him" which was a little more general and made it harder to understand why she didn't pick someone more important. Also she is a little girl, they probably would not being thinking all that clear under so much stress. Cool spoiler, maybe you should read the warning at the top of the page. I dont think that was a spoiler at all. Even if we totally ignore the books we get the same thing. He gave a clear hint as to who she chooses in the books, I don't see how that can not be considered a spoiler. Even if it isn't a major spoiler, I heavily dislike all these people coming into the thread talking about how the book and show differ. If you can't talk about the show without comparing it to the book, then use the other thread.
No, he didn't give a clear hint, because the character that she kills in the book isn't even in the show.
The only "information" from the books that people are using is things like "Dragons only eat cooked meat". That's not a spoiler - it's been shown in the show, but people who weren't looking for it missed it. And personally, I'm at exactly the same spot in the books that the show is on, so if I were to go into the other thread I'd get three books worth of spoilers dumped on my head, WITHOUT anyone trying to censor themselves, which is what happens here.
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I've watched this series for a few weeks now and have caught up with the rest, and one thing really stands out to me.
All of the major characters that die don't die in battle. Renly, Ned Stark, King Robert, Viserys, Jon Arryn, etc.
Oh and my favourite characters atm are Arya, Tyrion&Bronn and Varys.
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On May 05 2012 16:41 Smat wrote:
In the books her. . .
Really, like, the warning at the top even has an example of what is forbidden, one of the examples beginning with the words
IN THE BOOKS...
hzflank, gg for all the spoilers to people who might want to read the books after or have started but not that far yet. You totally just not did spoilt a bunch of stuff for them like WELL CHARACTER X CAN'T DIE NOW COZ HE COMES IN BOOK 3 AND SHOW IS LIKE AT BOOK 2 SO...
genious
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Too bad about Renly, I kind of liked that character. Oh well. I wish Arya had gone for someone a bit more ambitious for the first kill, even if she was kind of testing the waters. Feels a bit -- wasted when she has that kind of power. Honestly the whole speech that Jaqen gave, seemed a bit forced. "You save me, blah blah blah, suddenly I'll randomly kill three dudes for you".
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This show is soo damn good! I love the actors casted for this.
I love Tyrion, he is sooo awesome and the guy i'm cheering for (even tho he's a Lannisters, i still feel like hes the good guy) I also love how the directors made me love who they want me to love and hate who they want me to hate, Arya and Joffery(damn i sooo hate Joffery) and i also hate that mother with the retard kid who sucks milk out of his mother even tho he's like 7 or something (that dude has seriouly issues and the mom is just facepalm)
Though I really dont want them to do something that screws up the war for the Starks casue i'm always rooting for them. AND again with the diffferent storylines with the dragons and whitewalkers, so many intresting things happening at the same time. I'm gonna be so sad once this season ends, does anyone know when season 3(if their will be a season 3, i think there will be, theres so much stuff, like at least another 2 season to properly address them, like the dragons growning up and what affect they will play)
Can the shadow kill a dragon? What do u guys think? So far all i can tell is the shadow and just phase through things and dissappear and wield like "blades" so can it like pierce dragon scales or survive the firebreath attack
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