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chocopaw
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On May 01 2012 11:22 Arkless wrote: During roberts rebellion, he smuggled stannis food and supplies when he was under seige and unable to get out of his stronghold. So for being a smuggler, he chopped off his fingers. But for saving stannis and his people from starving to death, he made him a knight. Hence "Onion Knight" being his title. To be clear he chopped off his fingers for being a smuggler by trade prior to that act, not for the specific act of smuggling supplies to Stannis. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
Actually, childhood tends to become longer and longer among humans, so we could say that a 17 years old boy in the Middle-Ages probably looked at least 25 years old in comparison to today's youth, not only in terms of body mass but also because life was harder and people grew older much faster. Also note that the universe created by Martin is a mix of the low Middle-Ages and the Antiquity, so we can't truly compare it with one of our own centuries. The Dothraki seem to be inspired by Attila's horde (440-450) when the culture of Westeros seems to range from post-1000 Middle-Ages to the Renaissance. In the end, HBO's choice to use older actors doesn't shock me. | ||
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Chocobo
United States1108 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:22 Kukaracha wrote: Actually, childhood tends to become longer and longer among humans, so we could say that a 17 years old boy in the Middle-Ages probably looked at least 25 years old in comparison to today's youth, not only in terms of body mass but also because life was harder and people grew older much faster. Also note that the universe created by Martin is a mix of the low Middle-Ages and the Antiquity, so we can't truly compare it with one of our own centuries. The Dothraki seem to be inspired by Attila's horde (440-450) when the culture of Westeros seems to range from post-1000 Middle-Ages to the Renaissance. In the end, HBO's choice to use older actors doesn't shock me. Completely agreed, it makes perfect sense to either use older actors or increase the characters' ages. They live in a time and place where everyone has seen death and hardship and the idea of (for instance) a 15 year old soldier seems perfectly normal. But to a modern audience, everyone would be distracted with thoughts of "that's just a kid, he/she shouldn't be in a situation like that", so adjusting the ages removes that distraction. It's completely different from other shows that have 25 year olds portraying high school kids for no good reason. | ||
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:35 Maxie wrote: Also under age sex scenes don't work very well. Lol. LOL, very nicely put. | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
When you first read the book or first watch episode 1 of the series you don't know the sigils really. You learn the Stark sigil from that scene, but you don't really understand the significance of the stag until later. Its not until a 2nd viewing or read after you've seen everything play out that you're like whoah ok this scene is freaking awesome. | ||
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
On May 02 2012 01:27 zodde wrote: Yeah it would be suicidal of HBO to try to produce a TV show that shows a pretty graphic rape of a 13 year old girl ^^ I'm pretty sure it would just be straight up illegal. IIRC There are laws about the age of a character being portrayed in a sex scene (Not just the age of the actor). | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On May 01 2012 22:37 Spykiller wrote: Throughout history Norway have been conquered a number of times, by Sweden, Denmark and last but not least Germany. However the people always supported Norway, and the people was loyal to the king even when he was exiled in UK. I think you got it all wrong That's largely after the rise of nationalism and the 'nation' state. Before that, territories changes hands rapidly between kings, trades between kings of large pieces of land were not uncommon and your king could change overnight. People were loyal mainly to more local 'lords' before that, if they had any loyalty at all. | ||
KwarK
United States43565 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:44 chocopaw wrote: Guys, the last Targaryen was overthrown because he randomly grilled people and as a last act wanted to burn down King's Landing. I'm sure the common folk can't wait to see what the next member of this foreign conqueror family has in store for them... Foreign conqueror family? They were in charge for hundreds of years. The place didn't exist as a united kingdom until the Targaryens. The idea that anyone would consider them foreign is ridiculous, unless they happened to be a peasant who had studied the history of their continent at length they'd never know that it hadn't always been ruled by Targaryens. Also they were overthrown because of a rebellion by a few lords of great houses, not a peasant uprising. | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img.pr0gramm.com/2012/05/1335890284030.gif) I could stare at this all day. So satisfying  | ||
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Carras
Argentina860 Posts
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
On May 01 2012 22:37 Spykiller wrote: Throughout history Norway have been conquered a number of times, by Sweden, Denmark and last but not least Germany. However the people always supported Norway, and the people was loyal to the king even when he was exiled in UK. I think you got it all wrong But the difference is, in westeros it was a rebellion force not a conquering force that overthrew the Targaryens. It was more of a revolution. The people living in the kingdom where not happy with the way it was ruled, so they revolted against the current rulers. You're talking about Norway being attacked by outside nations, which is different. In fact, similar to your examples, the Targaryens were the conquerors. They were not native to Westeros, they came there and took it over. | ||
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Girondelle
France969 Posts
In the last episode, Stannis told Davos that he would lead the fleet to King's Landing, Davos looked scared as ****. Why was that? Does that mean that is going at the meatgrinder leading the fleet, or is it because the other lords will be jealous he was given such a prestigious position? | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
On May 02 2012 03:50 Girondelle wrote: I have question for you guys. In the last episode, Stannis told Davos that he would lead the fleet to King's Landing, Davos looked scared as ****. Why was that? Does that mean that is going at the meatgrinder leading the fleet, or is it because the other lords will be jealous he was given such a prestigious position? He's scared of the fire witch. The last episode he saw the witch give birth to a shadow that looked like stannis that killed Stannis's brother. Davos is worried the girl has plans of her own and wishes for her to stay behind instead of being at the front lines when they take kings landing. About the ships, hes doesn't have any experience in commanding ship battles while other commanders do, hes worried they're gonna be pissed for having him be the leader of it | ||
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Girondelle
France969 Posts
On May 02 2012 03:56 Shelke14 wrote: He's scared of the fire witch. The last episode he saw the witch give birth to a shadow that looked like stannis that killed Stannis's brother. Davos is worried the girl has plans of her own and wishes for her to stay behind instead of being at the front lines when they take kings landing. About the ships, hes doesn't have any experience in commanding ship battles while other commanders do, hes worried they're gonna be pissed for having him be the leader of it Thanks ! So he is scared for both reason ^^ Is this some kind of vengance from Stannis, or do you think he still has faith in Davos? | ||
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betaV1.25
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On May 01 2012 22:03 Spykiller wrote: But they would. If Canada was conquered by USA and 20 years later the idea of Canada as a soverign country would rise again, would you not support the claim that Canada is its own country? That's not even close to an apt comparison. Canada has a more or less democratic government where people get to form political parties and influence law and politics. Losing that and wanting to get it back is understandable, but we're not talking about a situation even remotely similar. Commoners have no reason identify with the Targaryens or Baratheons because they're still living in the dirt and scraping out a meager living regardless of who occupies the throne. Cersei reminds Joffrey of this when he starts ranting about how everyone in the north should love and obey him simply because he is king, and I'm pretty sure that either Jorah or Tyrion says in an earlier episode that rulers who think that commoners think much about them are deluding themselves. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:35 Maxie wrote: Also under age sex scenes don't work very well. Lol. Dany was 14 or 15 when she was gifted to Drogo I believe. | ||
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