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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
April 08 2011 04:04 GMT
#741
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Theclutch
Profile Joined January 2009
United States119 Posts
April 08 2011 04:06 GMT
#742
Absolutely cannot wait for this! Too bad i don'g get HBO here at school =( I don't feel like waiting till after the semester to start watching but it seems like that's what is going to happen.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 08 2011 04:13 GMT
#743
I have heard rumors that most of the US market cable/dish providers are going to be having a free HBO weekend during the premiere next week to get people hooked. If true, anyone with cable will be able to check out the first episode at least.
Noev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1105 Posts
April 08 2011 04:16 GMT
#744
On April 08 2011 13:13 karazax wrote:
I have heard rumors that most of the US market cable/dish providers are going to be having a free HBO weekend during the premiere next week to get people hooked. If true, anyone with cable will be able to check out the first episode at least.


I am afraid that this might be true and i will get hooked while at school and not be able to watch any more after that weekend. Ill have to do my best to find it online somewhere!
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
April 08 2011 04:34 GMT
#745
I really wish I could subscribe online
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 08 2011 08:41 GMT
#746
On April 08 2011 12:57 Drowsy wrote:
Making of was really cool, a bit more informative to people new to the series/characters/world than the trailer.

I would call it spoilerish. I would recommend people new to the world of Westeros to not watch the last making of.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 08 2011 08:42 GMT
#747
On April 08 2011 13:16 Noev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 13:13 karazax wrote:
I have heard rumors that most of the US market cable/dish providers are going to be having a free HBO weekend during the premiere next week to get people hooked. If true, anyone with cable will be able to check out the first episode at least.


I am afraid that this might be true and i will get hooked while at school and not be able to watch any more after that weekend. Ill have to do my best to find it online somewhere!

Send me a PM and I will send you a link to the website that is 100% sure to have it a few hours after each show.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
April 08 2011 10:30 GMT
#748
I wish i could get HBO over here. It's not Game of Thrones, i just really like the road they are taking and their perspective on what television should be like.

I will download it and without a doubt get the DVD box series, just like how i bought all the books after having read most of them via the library.

Still i wish i could have HBO just to watch it live, bump the ratings and show my support for what is in my opinion the greaters producers of film at this point in time.
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
April 08 2011 12:17 GMT
#749
It will take like 6 months to get on brazilian HBO =(

I'll probably watch it online.
Turenne
Profile Joined January 2011
331 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 14:58:17
April 08 2011 14:54 GMT
#750
Zalz, you left our debate at page 34. Please reply to my post (and an apology for your tone would also be nice).
Turenne
Profile Joined January 2011
331 Posts
April 08 2011 14:57 GMT
#751
On April 04 2011 10:42 Voros wrote:
Show nested quote +
Yes they are of the same very broad and very varied genre. This is largely where the similarities of both books ends. Tolkien's style lies in a far more basic view of a black and white world, where the good guys are pure and defined by old fashioned understandings of masculinity - bravery, loyalty, honour etc - taken from his tradition of reading works like Beowulf and his own generation's sensibilities and Christian prejudices. LOTR very simply is yet another very epic and hopeful clash between good versus evil where good barely prevails in the face of seemingly overwhelmingly evil. In complete contrast Martin's work - from what I have read so far - is of a different moral tradition, far more cynical, Machevillian or Realist if you like. People are defined by ambition and lust of power; ideas of good and evil are laughable as everything becomes shades of grey, the 'good guys' capable of immoral acts like anyone else. Martin's world is a Realist's wet dream, where intrigue, murder, disorder and war define the lives of all - it dismissing the idea of morals and ethics defining life, instinct and ambition rather driving human actions. Very simply, Martin lies in the Realist tradition, containing a cynical view of the power of morals in our world and offering a more authentic and multi-dimensional vision of human life. Tolkien lies more in the Christian tradition, his work more fantastical and less authentic, more hopeful and more a portrait of how he and his generation thought they should be and act like.


This is a savvy take. I'd add that Tolkien's devout Christian / pro-Western perspective may be partially personal bias, but it's primarily in service of his goal to create a uniquely English mythology. The Norman Invasion and its disastrous effects on English culture and civilization weighed on his mind, and Tolkien wanted future generations to have the mythologies that other cultures had enjoyed for centuries. That was also a goal for CS Lewis and his Narnia books, though those are more explicitly allegorical than mythological (and far less successful, if you ask me).

On the other hand, Martin is a great writer, but his world is purely postmodern and is as cynical as any noir fiction--he's not trying to create mythology that will endure for centuries any more than David Chase was with the Sopranos. Comparing his work to Tolkien's is like pitting High Noon against Unforgiven--same genre, different aims.


Seemed to have overlooked this reply, very informative and that analogy is perfect. Wasn't aware that creating a 'uniquely' Ennglish mythology was one of Tolkien's goals. Its always interesting I think to see the effect of bias, tradition, history etc on one's writings.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 15:36:13
April 08 2011 15:34 GMT
#752
Another positive review:

http://www.ology.com/technology/5-observations-early-game-thrones-episodes

And a negative one:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/carynjames/archives/gameofthrones/

So far the only negative reviews have been from people who basicly auto failed it because it is in the fantasy genre. Most of their reasons are pretty hollow too, but even the best reviewed material is going to have a few people who hate it.
P0ckets
Profile Joined January 2011
United States430 Posts
April 08 2011 15:38 GMT
#753
If anyone is a purist, I would suggest you not even watch this series. The fact that they casted Sean Bean as Ned Stark most likely means the produce and director made changes in the name of artistic licensing. + Show Spoiler +
I mean to have such a major actor play a character that dies in the first book of the series leads me to believe that the story has been tampered with. I am sure he doesn’t want to be cut out of another series like he was in Lord of The Rings, especially when he is like the only big name in the series.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 15:43:42
April 08 2011 15:41 GMT
#754
On April 08 2011 23:54 Turenne wrote:
Zalz, you left our debate at page 34. Please reply to my post (and an apology for your tone would also be nice).


I considered it finished when you asked met to concede that my penis is smaller then yours. There are things i cannot do.

If anyone is a purist, I would suggest you not even watch this series. The fact that they casted Sean Bean as Ned Stark most likely means the produce and director made changes in the name of artistic licensing.


No, that is utterly impossible.

+ Show Spoiler +
The death of Ned Stark is not something that can be ignored, it is crucial to the rest of the story. If Ned gets sent to the wall for example then the war of the five kings never happens.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 15:57:00
April 08 2011 15:50 GMT
#755
On April 09 2011 00:38 P0ckets wrote:
If anyone is a purist, I would suggest you not even watch this series. The fact that they casted Sean Bean as Ned Stark most likely means the produce and director made changes in the name of artistic licensing. + Show Spoiler +
I mean to have such a major actor play a character that dies in the first book of the series leads me to believe that the story has been tampered with. I am sure he doesn’t want to be cut out of another series like he was in Lord of The Rings, especially when he is like the only big name in the series.



They aren't changing that plot point. Certainly the show isn't going to be a line for line translation of the book with no changes at all, as the first 14 minutes already shows, but the main events will all be there. Here is an early review from Westros.org, which documents the details in the books as closely as anyone outside of Martin himself:

http://www.westeros.org/GoT/Features/Entry/4985/

They discuss what has been cut out and say while they miss some of the details, they love it as a whole.

Some fans will let the smallest of changes ruin it for them, but it's silly not to watch first and find out before making such statements.
Besides
+ Show Spoiler +
Sean Bean just announced he signed for another TV show for next year:

http://www.businessinsider.com/sean-bean-to-co-star-in-abc-series-missing-3-others-book-pilots-2011-4
P0ckets
Profile Joined January 2011
United States430 Posts
April 08 2011 16:23 GMT
#756
Ah well it seems it will be fine then. I am a huge Martin fan and I would hate to see his works botched for the sake of some start like other TV/Movie adaptations of books have had happen.
peeeky
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada631 Posts
April 08 2011 18:38 GMT
#757
I've only finished the first two books but I'm insanely excited to watch the series after seeing the previews. Hope to finish the rest of the books this summer.
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 19:20:06
April 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#758
On November 16 2008 02:37 MasterOfChaos wrote:
I'm pessimistic. They'll make a shitty film from a good book yet again.
And it is hard to make good films from something which is as long as asoiaf. Each book is about as long as the whole LOTR, and it took three long films with a high budget to do LOTR in a decent way.

I retract that statement from page 1. They seem to really put in effort and money to make it a faithful adaption of the books. Looking forward to it, since I prefer the asoiaf story/characters of LOTR by far.

I won't complain about small changes as long as the spirit is preserved and it's generally well made.
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Turenne
Profile Joined January 2011
331 Posts
April 08 2011 20:18 GMT
#759
On April 09 2011 00:41 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 23:54 Turenne wrote:
Zalz, you left our debate at page 34. Please reply to my post (and an apology for your tone would also be nice).


I considered it finished when you asked met to concede that my penis is smaller then yours. There are things i cannot do.


In future, please do not begin debates you are incapable of finishing. Thank you.
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
April 08 2011 20:48 GMT
#760
On April 09 2011 05:18 Turenne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 00:41 zalz wrote:
On April 08 2011 23:54 Turenne wrote:
Zalz, you left our debate at page 34. Please reply to my post (and an apology for your tone would also be nice).


I considered it finished when you asked met to concede that my penis is smaller then yours. There are things i cannot do.


In future, please do not begin debates you are incapable of finishing. Thank you.

Dropping out of a stupid offtopic discussion that will go nowhere is a wise decision. And I'd appreciate if you don't try to restart it.
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
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