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HelpMeGetBetter
United States763 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21340 Posts
On May 21 2019 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: I can't say production was amazing for episode 3 considering most of it was a screen to dark to really see what was going on.It's like every box of production and acting was amazing throughout the entire run, but for whatever reason they didn't care to check the box for storytelling at the end. | ||
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HelpMeGetBetter
United States763 Posts
On May 21 2019 07:38 Gorsameth wrote: I can't say production was amazing for episode 3 considering most of it was a screen to dark to really see what was going on. I might even feel better if the producers just came out and said we wanted to end the show as fast as possible to move on to other projects. I mean be honest at this point. When they cared, we all saw how great the show was. But when people stop caring it is fairly obvious... | ||
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riotjune
United States3392 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4120 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23765 Posts
On May 21 2019 09:34 Dante08 wrote: Dam the reviews of this episode are really bad lol. Guess it's kinda expected with how rushed everything was. I'm just sad that I won't have anything to look forward to on Mondays anymore. I guess I get that, I don’t entirely agree. Based on what came before I thought it was a 7/10, a solid epilogue if everything before it was good. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On May 21 2019 09:41 Wombat_NI wrote: I guess I get that, I don’t entirely agree. Based on what came before I thought it was a 7/10, a solid epilogue if everything before it was good. I'd say it was more like a 5/10. + Show Spoiler + Why was Bran a 3 eyed Raven? Let alone King, he can't have heirs. Why was Arya made an Assassin How is there still a Night's Watch, they are all dead except Jon and Sam. Also the huge fucking hole in the wall. What is there to guard against, there are no more White Walkers or Wildlings North of the Wall. Also the Freefolk are allies now... Why guard against them? Why would the Unsullied need a house? There are eunuch's they can't have offspring... The Iron Bank? House of Dorne? All in all it seems those worried about the few episodes of the last season not having enough time to close the story lines out, made by the TV show and some by the books, were right. They ran out of time. Now if GRRM does not finish them then everyone is pretty much fucked. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21340 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10638 Posts
On May 21 2019 09:34 Dante08 wrote: Dam the reviews of this episode are really bad lol. Guess it's kinda expected with how rushed everything was. I'm just sad that I won't have anything to look forward to on Mondays anymore. If ur rocking a hbo subscription like me then Chernobyl is a good watch | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23765 Posts
On May 21 2019 10:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: I'd say it was more like a 5/10. + Show Spoiler + Why was Bran a 3 eyed Raven? Let alone King, he can't have heirs. Why was Arya made an Assassin How is there still a Night's Watch, they are all dead except Jon and Sam. Also the huge fucking hole in the wall. What is there to guard against, there are no more White Walkers or Wildlings North of the Wall. Also the Freefolk are allies now... Why guard against them? Why would the Unsullied need a house? There are eunuch's they can't have offspring... The Iron Bank? House of Dorne? All in all it seems those worried about the few episodes of the last season not having enough time to close the story lines out, made by the TV show and some by the books, were right. They ran out of time. Now if GRRM does not finish them then everyone is pretty much fucked. My 7/10 is basically entirely influenced on what came before Relatively speaking it’s my favourite episode of the season. 1 and 2 I felt were too slow, too much fan service that could have been cut (especially pertinent when I think they rushed important things), as easing back in to this season I could give them both a 6/10 Episode 3 I personally give a 3 or a 4 out of 10, which is made worse by 1 and 2 being almost entirely setup for it. Basically everything in that episode is a botch job IMO. 4 I thought was actually decent enough, solid, nothing amazing by any means but decent, back to 6/10 maybe. Episode 5 we’re back to complete botch job territory. Better than 3 IMO for numerous reasons, visuals aren’t a complete mess, elements otherwise I liked. Episode 5 with a setup that isn’t 100% telegraphed but yet feels consistent could have been absolutely amazing. Alas it wasn’t done. At least for me the two big, plot-defining episodes of the season are by far the worst, and not because I didn’t get x character I like doing y thing or anything, they’re just bad payoffs for storytelling that’s generally been good thus far. Last episode yeah it’s flawed, still the best of this season IMO. After horribly botching the two big arcs this season at least we got some tie-ups that made sense, and some nice moments and it’s the end of the whole thing, end of all. I felt more emotion wise in Brienne sitting down and telling the truth of the Kingslayer than I did in Cersei and Jaime’s End, or in Jon killing Dany and their entire relationship, probably the nicest touch for me. Last episode is just the LoTR epilogue for me in reverse. That feels underwhelming because all the big stuff has been resolved satisfactorily, so who cares about quite how everyone lives after. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10638 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On May 21 2019 10:16 Gorsameth wrote: Tyrion mentions why there is still a Night Watch, the world still needs a place for broken/unwanted things. So its just a penal colony at this point. There is a place called Prisons. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10638 Posts
“Oh muh gud, this is valayrian sTEeL” “vALaRyIaN sTEeL”. 😮😮 “Dis sWoRd is made of VaLaRYan sTEeL, I cant accept it” Smh again GoTs. | ||
KwarK
United States41959 Posts
Free for all on all book spoilers now. Go nuts. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On May 21 2019 10:16 Gorsameth wrote: Tyrion mentions why there is still a Night Watch, the world still needs a place for broken/unwanted things. So its just a penal colony at this point. It's a pretty weak explanation though considering the inmates run the place and it's not even in their kingdom any more. Also Sam should be sent back to the Wall if the Night's Watch still exists. Why would the north want the 6 Kingdoms criminals and unwanted citizens to continue to be sent to their lands? Even if Bran/Tyrion and company felt honor bound to follow thru on their promise to the Unsullied regarding Jon, Sansa could have immediately pardoned Jon once he was north as queen. Who would care after the Unsullied left? Who would even know as long as Jon stayed in the North? Conversely, if Jon was really desiring power, sending him to the spot where he commands the army of the Night's Watch and the loyalty of the Wildlings seems as dangerous as any alternative. He has already used them to attack Winterfell once. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
Similarly while I do not dislike any episode in the season (except for the fact that I couldn't bloody see in episode 3), I have the same thought that I had last season which is that it could have been that much better had it had 10 episodes. I understand that the way they were progressing the series meant that we were past the time for talk but when the characters are talking is when GoT is at its best. The battles are great and exciting but its those moments where the characters banter or scheme or argue about political nonsense while the realm itself is being threatened where the show truly stands out. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13735 Posts
Sweet. Oh jesus where do we begin. Okay Clearly the end of the show was a horsehit mess that needed tons of time and instead we got a couple of assholes who decided to bail as fast as they could instead of finishing their job. So many people got ruined because of cut content that the showrunners had no replacement for. Littlefinger and varys didn't need to exist in the show at any point. The vale didn't need to exist really, sansa could have just gone to the karstarks and solved shit. Dorn never existed, Jesus okay so who are the two most important characters that were not in the story that really needed to be looking back? Aegon Targaryen and Harrold Hardyng. Varys and little fingers entire existence relies on these two people. You might be thinking "isn't john Aegon Targaryen?" NOPE One of the children of Elia of dorn was replaced by a servants child (the mountain wouldn't know the difference) and shipped to the golden company. why the Golden company? Because they are Targaryen friendly forces in exile. Everything Varys has done after the fall of the mad king has been to get Aegon back to the throne. That includes shipping trying to Danny but staying in Westeros because why god why did he leave? Hes going to be the third Head of the dragon and the prince that was promised. Now the stormlands and Dorn are relevant again, the dany/john romance becomes a love triangle and the structural issue with the show in the final two seasons is solved. On the otherside, we get the lowest of low points for the show and the most infuriating part of all 8 seasons. Sansa never needed to be raped. The showrunners decided to have her get raped for their ego and thinking its good and preferable character development. Littlefinger has sansa shipped to the vale and hidden from the storm. Then he leaves to marry lysa, things develope like the show but in the end lysa tells sansa that the reason why john aryn was poisoned was that lysa wanted to marry littlefinger. Littlefinger hears this and then decides to just push her out the moon door. Littlefinger shows he was playing the game of thrones and revealed to sansa that he actually had a plan. His plan was that lord robert had to die because he was sickly and wasn't reliable and that lysa was unreliable as well. He gets out of the other nobles through his wheeling and dealing but long term hes going to wait until the time is right He was going to marry her to Harrold Hardyng. Robert would die and Harrold would ascend to lord of the vale. Then they would reveal that shes sansa stark and rally the knights of the vale to retake the north for her cuz thats what knights like to do. Now we have a season 6 in the north that isn't awkwardly standing around waiting for the rest of the world to catch up. sansa isn't raped for no reason and john has a reason to go south to meet dany that doesn't leave the north in chaos if he dies. TLDR: D&D's legacy should be that they think rape is good character development for women. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32737 Posts
There's also the matter of Euron being a dark magic warlock pirate who probably steals away a dragon rather than kills one with laser-guided precision scorpions, which is slightly less dumb. God, they really bungled Euron to the point where even the actor was disappointed at how lame he was after he read the books. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
disagree with some (bronn pointing a crossbow at jamie and tyrion, it's totally in-character to me, that's his style and they all know it) . tho i havent read the books, i had no problem with ranmseys theo sansa arc, i thought that was all pretty epic, ramsy is epic scary (and is portrayed well in the game too, btw go play the telltales game, it's amazing). i don't think a 'lack' of characters was a problem, easily theo sansa ayra jon bran tyrion varys could have had more dialogue in various ways between one another. altho the evidence points to bran planning this, altho it's true the show never consolidated this, i don't think it's reasonable to say bran (3er) is "evil". dany's decision to torch kids seems a lot less complex to make and more easy to condemn than 3er's ageless battle everything felt and continues to feels flaky. i read the leak before watching the episode coz after jamie x cersei i felt no further investment i'm glad its over and i look forward to you telling me how the cast/etc perceive the ending also post more memes lol | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13959 Posts
On May 20 2019 14:25 Pr0wler wrote: I'm affraid that this is not on the writers anymore. It is GRRM's ending... and it's bad. It's not. If GRRM intends for Bran to be King it changes EVRRYTHING. Bran has said repeatedly I'm not Bran I'm the 3ER. A blended collected conciousness of Children who hated humans so much they created the NK. Book King Bran pretty much confirms Ragnarok theory. | ||
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