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On May 09 2019 00:18 Acrofales wrote: Another thing is that Dragonstone is an island. And Dany's fleet was just wrecked. Did she ferry her army to King's Landing on dragonback? I guess Euron teleported back to King's Landing in victory, so they could go to the mainland in rowboats? Or something? I think most of her army went on land with Jon and co, and only a small part went by boat. Or something. On May 09 2019 00:19 Logo wrote: The fleet probably isn't 'destroyed' despite the show showing us a battle in which the fleet is at a massive disadvantage with no hope. Next episode they'll probably still have a good army sized amount of ships. I bet we will get Asha coming in with a newly built fleet from the Iron Isles to save the day. | ||
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On May 09 2019 00:02 zatic wrote: It's been 3 days, I have not rewatched the episode, and I still notice more and more things that were terrible. Like: Missandei's last words: You can only interpret this as Missi telling Dany to burn it all down, right? This is so against Missandei's character, when just previously they were discussing that it is wrong to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians to gain the throne. Missandei and the rest of the slaver's bay people follow Dany, the breaker of chains, Mysa. She would never tell her to mass murder the oppressed. Where was Davos? Wouldn't you send your arguably most experienced admiral with the fleet? If next episode he comes down traveling the King's road I'll scream. Again, where is Yohn Royce and the army of the Vale? All killed off screen and never mentioned again? Wouldn't Sansa try to keep them on her side in her play for power? Actually, Missandei's character change is what I understood the most and even accept it. She fell in love (with the love of her life), expected them to leave after the war, grow old, etc. And now she is on the verge of dieing knowing that Cersei and all her supporters cost her all that. I am sorry but good person or not I would say burn them all too. Humans are egoistical people | ||
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On May 09 2019 01:17 Sbrubbles wrote: I think most of her army went on land with Jon and co, and only a small part went by boat. Or something. I bet we will get Asha coming in with a newly built fleet from the Iron Isles to save the day. Well, they split up. The unsullied went by ship and Jon went with the Westerosi and Dothraki overland. When confronting Cersei, Jon and most of her army hadn't actually arrived yet. So even without aiming the balistas and wrecking everything, I'm not sure Dany had anywhere to run to if the Golden Company exited King's Landing and chased her down. I guess they can try fleeing all the way to wherever on the King's Road Jon is? Basically, everything about the parley seemed *very* ill advised (and logistically impossible, but teleportation, so /shrug). | ||
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On May 09 2019 01:08 Aocowns wrote: It's also strange how the past seasons theyve been hyping up the knights of the vale as this super dangerous heavy cavalry force, like petyr showed in the battle of the bastards. never got to use their horses again, the poor knights I'm filing this under "horses are a pain in the ass to shoot stunts on" for filming a TV show. The show has always been able to dance this issue until that started doing set piece battles with the Battle of the Bastards. As much as I love those battles, I think they take up a lot of the bandwidth the creators and production team have that used to be more focused on other things. | ||
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On May 09 2019 00:02 zatic wrote: Get ready to scream because I'm 99% sure we see Jon leave Winterfell with Davos next to him.It's been 3 days, I have not rewatched the episode, and I still notice more and more things that were terrible. Like: Missandei's last words: You can only interpret this as Missi telling Dany to burn it all down, right? This is so against Missandei's character, when just previously they were discussing that it is wrong to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians to gain the throne. Missandei and the rest of the slaver's bay people follow Dany, the breaker of chains, Mysa. She would never tell her to mass murder the oppressed. Where was Davos? Wouldn't you send your arguably most experienced admiral with the fleet? If next episode he comes down traveling the King's road I'll scream. Again, where is Yohn Royce and the army of the Vale? All killed off screen and never mentioned again? Wouldn't Sansa try to keep them on her side in her play for power? On May 09 2019 01:17 Sbrubbles wrote: I think most of her army went on land with Jon and co, and only a small part went by boat. Or something. I bet we will get Asha coming in with a newly built fleet from the Iron Isles to save the day. I fully expect Yara to get a new new fleet, which would be the third? fleet build by the Grey Joys. Got to wonder where they get all the wood from considering how bare the Iron Islands are supposed to be. Apparently they house a giant hardwood forest somewhere amids all the stone and salt. | ||
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On May 09 2019 01:52 Gorsameth wrote: Get ready to scream because I'm 99% sure we see Jon leave Winterfell with Davos next to him. I fully expect Yara to get a new new fleet, which would be the third? fleet build by the Grey Joys. Got to wonder where they get all the wood from considering how bare the Iron Islands are supposed to be. Apparently they house a giant hardwood forest somewhere amids all the stone and salt. Well Winterfell just used a mountain of firefood for a dramatic funeral service after burning a moat of firewood during the battle. All that at the beginning of winter. Seems like Westeros is not in want for timber at all. | ||
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On May 09 2019 02:36 zatic wrote: Well Winterfell just used a mountain of firefood for a dramatic funeral service after burning a moat of firewood during the battle. All that at the beginning of winter. Seems like Westeros is not in want for timber at all. That lines up historically, if Westeros is anything like the parts of Europe it is based on. Cutting down lots of trees was hard back then. | ||
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On May 09 2019 02:36 zatic wrote: Winterfell atleast is actually close to a big forest, they are not going to run into a shortage of wood any time soon.Well Winterfell just used a mountain of firefood for a dramatic funeral service after burning a moat of firewood during the battle. All that at the beginning of winter. Seems like Westeros is not in want for timber at all. | ||
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Cleganebowl confirmed (again?), yay! | ||
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On May 09 2019 03:39 Sent. wrote: Jaime's speech makes more sense if you assume he is going to kill Cersei rather then because of love.I would prefer if Jaime said something like "I just can't stop loving her" instead of "She's hateful... and so am I" before leaving Brienne. That scene was salvageable. Everything about Bran is not, as it seems like we're supposed to accept he's there just to watch stuff and do (almost) nothing. Cleganebowl confirmed (again?), yay! | ||
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On May 09 2019 03:39 Sent. wrote: I would prefer if Jaime said something like "I just can't stop loving her" instead of "She's hateful... and so am I" before leaving Brienne. That scene was salvageable. Everything about Bran is not, as it seems like we're supposed to accept he's there just to watch stuff and do (almost) nothing. Cleganebowl confirmed (again?), yay! My take on Jamie and Brienne was that Jamie realized he needs to kill Cersei after learning of Euron's snipe of Rhaegal (sighhhhhh) and realizing that Cersei would win the war, making his relationship with Brienne worthless as Cersei will surely have Bronn kill them both. | ||
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On May 09 2019 03:44 Gorsameth wrote: Jaime's speech makes more sense if you assume he is going to kill Cersei rather then because of love. Also it really wouldn't make more sense either, for the character yes, but there would be basically no reason to not just tell brienne and instead break her heart. edit: the timestamp doesn't seem to work, it's at 4:10 | ||
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On May 09 2019 03:52 The_Red_Viper wrote: Its impressive how a writers commentary on a scene makes the writing make even less sense then it did before...https://youtu.be/u8K9XuPrXko?t=248 Also it really wouldn't make more sense either, for the character yes, but there would be basically no reason to not just tell brienne and instead break her heart. edit: the timestamp doesn't seem to work, it's at 4:10 I for now will assume they simply didn't want to give away the plot. ps. Jamie admired and respected Brienne. When did that turn into a desire for sex and why can't it just be mutual respect between soldiers? It reeks way way to much of 'this women hasn't had a sex scene yet, we need to write one in'. | ||
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On May 09 2019 04:02 Gorsameth wrote: ps. Jamie admired and respected Brienne. When did that turn into a desire for sex and why can't it just be mutual respect between soldiers? It reeks way way to much of 'this women hasn't had a sex scene yet, we need to write one in'. This is pretty much how I felt. I've never got any inclination that Jamie was interested in her romantically. | ||
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On May 09 2019 04:02 Gorsameth wrote: Its impressive how a writers commentary on a scene makes the writing make even less sense then it did before... I for now will assume they simply didn't want to give away the plot. ps. Jamie admires and respected Brienne. When did that turn into a desire for sex and why can't it just be mutual respect between soldiers? It reeks way way to much of 'this women hasn't had a sex scene yet, we need to write one in'. Every major woman character has either been naked or sexually assaulted in the show except for the ones over 40 (Cat, Lysa, Olenna). Though Brienne was already covered by the Jaime/Brienne hot tub scene. There's no real escaping the 'this woman hasn't had a sex scene yet' aspect of the show. I think their more than mutual attraction is actually pretty important for the plot. Part of the Jaime & Cersei relationship is that they're in this world together for each other and no one else is there for them. Jaime's emotional closeness to Brienne is sort of a wedge that allows him to question that fundamental aspect of his character. If it was merely a platonic emotionally connection I'm not sure we could see Jaime question himself in the same way. | ||
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