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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
September 11 2017 12:40 GMT
#34161
Even tho Supernatural is a horrible example but I get your point. In order to motivate main characters for the next seasons plot - producers had to make the next level threat which looks even more imbalanced but obviously will be solved by main heroes.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 14:15:34
September 11 2017 14:15 GMT
#34162
On September 09 2017 07:03 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 07:01 Plansix wrote:
The battle for the wall had some combat melee. I can't remember if Jon was in any of it though.


I don't think he was, I can't remember if he was still recovering from fleeing the wildlings or not, but he was using a bow during the battle mostly (he hesitated on shooting Yigrette). If he did any melee I don't think it was really anything like a 1 on 1.


He was in it a lot, remember he put the hammer through the tall wildling's head.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1961 Posts
September 11 2017 16:16 GMT
#34163
There is never a battle with the main protagonist that does not end in a brawl between him and the main antagonist. Jon killed Mister "iam gonna eat your daddy, and i am gonna eat your momma" and a few others on the ground. The reasonable version where he is still injured and shoots arrows at the invaders from the highest tower is entirely Book material. The inner monologue that made it a perfect chapter of the books would not translate to the show.

Regarding the powerlevel of fighters, expect it to change every second the plot demands it. You have to remember though, that these guys are probably all pretty close to each other. Knights are professional fighters, they train and spar all their life with each other, I am seeing them as SC pros, there are some prodigees and long time champions that have built up their reputation in years of mostly nonlethal battles (ladder) but in a tournament they can suddenly upset everyone because a previously unknown can kill even the champs in a real fight(tournament).
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28785 Posts
September 13 2017 16:39 GMT
#34164
That's kinda the thing. In brood war, and other sports, we can get a good overview of who the best is because they compete on many occasions. Swordfights to the death are kinda BO1 by default. Even if one guy is mildly inferior to 3 other guys, say he has a 40/60 shot against each of them, then he will end up beating all of them once every 25 times, and if it's a one time event where one guy beats three others, we can't ever know if it was just a lucky AK vs AA type of scenario. (almost equally likely!)
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 14 2017 01:15 GMT
#34165
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
September 14 2017 02:11 GMT
#34166
As long as there's a version where Dany + Jon die due to stupidity, that'll be my official one.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23885 Posts
September 14 2017 07:09 GMT
#34167
On September 14 2017 10:15 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/UPROXX/status/908066401147125762


Hope they plan on putting them in the box set.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
September 15 2017 10:26 GMT
#34168
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 21 2017 00:45 GMT
#34169
Why the hell not just focus on Robert's rebellion? What else is there to explain that could tie in to the main storyline, makes no sense...?

A fifth “Game of Thrones” prequel series is officially in the works at HBO, Variety has confirmed.

Bryan Cogman, who has worked on “Game of Thrones” since Season 1, has been tapped to pen a potential fifth prequel project for the network. It was previously known that four prequels were in development, though George R.R. Martin said that a fifth was also in the works. When Martin first spoke of the fifth writer being recruited in May, he said that apart from himself and “Thrones” experts Elio Garcia and Linda Antonsson, “I don’t know anyone who knows and loves Westeros as well as he does.”

Cogman has worked on the show in various capacities over the years, most recently as a writer and co-executive producer. Among the episodes Cogman has written for the series are “Stormborn,” the second episode of Season 7, and “The Broken Man, the seventh episode of Season 6 which introduced the character of Lyanna Mormont.

The four writers previously announced are Max Borenstein (“Kong: Skull Island”), Jane Goldman (“Kingsman: The Golden Circle”), Brian Helgeland (“Legend”), and Carly Wray (“Mad Men,” “The Leftovers”).

Details for the five projects are being kept under tight guard, though Martin has made clear that each project is a prequel rather than a spinoff and that none of the current main cast of the series will be involved. He has also ruled out fan theories that any of them will focus on his characters Ser Duncan the Tall and Aegon the Unlikely, or Dunk and Egg as they are popularly known. He has also said that Robert’s Rebellion will not be the subject of any of the prequels.


Source
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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
September 21 2017 00:57 GMT
#34170
I was just reading about the same thing on cinemablend, but they seem to share some more info, apparently he wants to do any period of the Targaryens ruling in Westeros.

Personally, I know which aspect of Game of Thrones I'd like to see expanded, although its a massively long time period that the network could pick and chose from. Because I'd like to see the time where The Targaryens actually ruled Westeros, with their dragons in tow. It would be interesting to see the power dynamics in the show reversed, and see a blonde haired dragon that isn't named Dany..


Source

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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-21 01:02:05
September 21 2017 00:59 GMT
#34171
I mean Rhaegar, the prophecy, etc is all pretty important and still mysterious. If you do the rebellion you basically have to do everything which is connected to Rhaegar, this probably includes summerhall as well.


The general storyline is also known just by watching GoT which is a negative. Though personally i wouldn't mind it because execution > plot. But in my experience most people think differently.

On September 21 2017 09:57 FreakyDroid wrote:
I was just reading about the same thing on cinemablend, but they seem to share some more info, apparently he wants to do any period of the Targaryens ruling in Westeros.

Show nested quote +
Personally, I know which aspect of Game of Thrones I'd like to see expanded, although its a massively long time period that the network could pick and chose from. Because I'd like to see the time where The Targaryens actually ruled Westeros, with their dragons in tow. It would be interesting to see the power dynamics in the show reversed, and see a blonde haired dragon that isn't named Dany..


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Would be really fun imo, best case something which can end with Targaryen succession wars, but that would be too costly for sure :D
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
September 21 2017 02:16 GMT
#34172
On September 14 2017 10:15 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/UPROXX/status/908066401147125762

Leak protection most likely.
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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-21 10:35:38
September 21 2017 10:34 GMT
#34173
On September 21 2017 09:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I mean Rhaegar, the prophecy, etc is all pretty important and still mysterious. If you do the rebellion you basically have to do everything which is connected to Rhaegar, this probably includes summerhall as well.


The general storyline is also known just by watching GoT which is a negative. Though personally i wouldn't mind it because execution > plot. But in my experience most people think differently.

Show nested quote +
On September 21 2017 09:57 FreakyDroid wrote:
I was just reading about the same thing on cinemablend, but they seem to share some more info, apparently he wants to do any period of the Targaryens ruling in Westeros.

Personally, I know which aspect of Game of Thrones I'd like to see expanded, although its a massively long time period that the network could pick and chose from. Because I'd like to see the time where The Targaryens actually ruled Westeros, with their dragons in tow. It would be interesting to see the power dynamics in the show reversed, and see a blonde haired dragon that isn't named Dany..


Source



Would be really fun imo, best case something which can end with Targaryen succession wars, but that would be too costly for sure :D


Yeah, that would be one of the 3 interesting periods, well 4 if you count Robert's rebellion, the other 2 being the the Blackfyre rebellion and Aegon's conquest, that are famous even among those who havent read the books because they've been referenced on the show many times. But at the end it, like you said, its more about the execution rather then the plot itself.

If they want to do a spin off about Targaryiens, a period without dragons would be my pick, so either the 3 Blackfyre rebellions or Robert's rebellion, because again like you said, it would be too costly and CGI intensive, especially in later seasons when salaries become too high.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
September 21 2017 15:58 GMT
#34174
If there are any 2D/3D artists here, you can take part in an art challenge and win a paid trip to Paris.

ART CHALLENGE ANNOUNCED: THE FIGHT BEYOND THE WALL
Attention artists! We're thrilled to partner with IAMAG for a unique competition about all things Game of Thrones. This is your opportunity to win a VIP Pass including the flight, hotel and all accommodations for IAMAG Master Classes 18 (From March 16th to March 18th 2018). This yearly snapshot showcases what the best artists have to offer, whether they’re animators, concept artists, VFX / FX artists, directors, all during 3 days in Paris, the city of art that never sleeps.

For this challenge, you'll be asked to imagine during the ultimate confrontation: the last fight between Fire and Ice, The White Walkers and the Dragons. General rules are as follows, and please keep an eye out here for more details as the contest progresses.

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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
September 21 2017 20:09 GMT
#34175
I always imagined Roberts Rebellion as a LORT-type trilogy. Big budget allowing for tons of epic action scenes. We already know the plot so I don't think it would be that interesting as a tv-series.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28785 Posts
September 21 2017 20:29 GMT
#34176
one of the cool things about the song of ice and fire universe is that all the history is told from different unreliable sources. So even though we know the plot, there can still be significant deviations that we don't know about that were hidden from us because the sources that retold the stories later on lied or omitted crucial facts.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 21 2017 20:42 GMT
#34177
Yeah that is a good point for sure. But the big plot points are still known and a lot of people really only care about these for whatever reason
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THE Sliggy
Profile Blog Joined September 2017
Australia65 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-22 03:33:04
September 22 2017 03:31 GMT
#34178
It's hard for me to imagine truly enjoying the prequels because I'll always have an answer in the back of my mind for the question: "Where is this going?"

Before the Red Wedding, I didn't take the hundreds of warnings not to trust Walder Frey into serious consideration. I didn't expect that Roose would be capable of such drastic action. I didn't expect that Robb meeting a girl would distract him from his purpose.

All of this makes the experience SO rich, because the impact of that moment is accompanied by a tidal wave of realisation.

Asking myself questions like "Why is this significant?" are a huge part of the enjoyment for me. I get an impending sense of all the puzzle pieces coming together before my very eyes, but I can't see the final product until the show drives a stake through my heart.

I feel like that would all be lost watching a prequel.

EDIT: Grammar
Sliggy: Remastered
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
September 22 2017 13:41 GMT
#34179
i get what you're saying but i think your imagination is working against you here. there's a lot of rich history with stories that could have their own red weddings in them. knowing that in the possibly distant future the war of five kings goes down doesn't mean there won't be a whole stories worth of mystery heartbreak or intrigue all to its own.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3996 Posts
September 22 2017 14:16 GMT
#34180
Good points, that's why I think a prequel should be about something that's only vaguely related and we don't know much about at all. Robert's rebellion is far too connected, but I'd like to see a sequel on Valyria or the Children of the Forest.
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