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Erasme
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Laurens
Belgium4558 Posts
 what is even the point, to let the other thread die? | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On July 06 2016 02:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: That or Bran has visions of the dragons and goes back behind the wall to find Dany in hopes of stoping the Walkers thus allowing the Wall to fall. I'm going to be really disappointed if the wall falls because Bran walks through it. It'd just be such an obvious problem and really inconsistent with the rest of what Bran is supposedly doing if he causes the whole invasion problem to begin with. The only way it'd work is if he had be set up all along by the 3 Eyed Raven or the Night's King. | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25658 Posts
On July 06 2016 02:57 Laurens wrote: These new rules just seem like ban-bait for book readers like myself what is even the point, to let the other thread die? The other thread will probably still be more in-depth and once a book actually gets released it will be useful  | ||
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Benjen doesn't have free will and was forced by the Nights King to deliver Bran to the Wall. Bran carries the Night's King's mark which will allow ice zombies to somehow get through/destroy the Wall after he gets on the other side. That would explain why Bran and Meera weren't caught minutes after leaving the cave, the Night's King simply didn't want that. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9448 Posts
On July 06 2016 01:11 Erasme wrote: i dont see why Gilly would be needed. To me they just need something to destroy the wall. The horn that mancer had for example Remind me again. Why exactly is Gilly in the story? | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
On July 06 2016 06:53 Hider wrote: Remind me again. Why exactly is Gilly in the story? it's actually pretty obvious. Gilly is there to prevent Sam from purchasing a jetpack. Those are pretty expensive, and Sam could only afford one. Gilly ensured Sam had to reach Oldtown legit, which is important because um... | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8323 Posts
I mean, they've put a decent bit of work into humanizing the white-walkers a bit, and now we know that they were created by the children of the forest. Do we think there's anything more to them or are they all just a bunch of ice demons commanding an army of snow zombies? | ||
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Hider
Denmark9448 Posts
On July 06 2016 06:58 Cricketer12 wrote: it's actually pretty obvious. Gilly is there to prevent Sam from purchasing a jetpack. Those are pretty expensive, and Sam could only afford one. Gilly ensured Sam had to reach Oldtown legit, which is important because um... Sounds like a spoiler to me. Ban incoming. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On July 06 2016 04:02 Logo wrote: I'm going to be really disappointed if the wall falls because Bran walks through it. It'd just be such an obvious problem and really inconsistent with the rest of what Bran is supposedly doing if he causes the whole invasion problem to begin with. The only way it'd work is if he had be set up all along by the 3 Eyed Raven or the Night's King. And the last place we see Bran  is the wall or nearby the wall. As Benjen leaves because he can't cross or w/e. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24364 Posts
On July 06 2016 07:02 TheDougler wrote: So my question is what's the end game for the night's king? I mean, they've put a decent bit of work into humanizing the white-walkers a bit, and now we know that they were created by the children of the forest. Do we think there's anything more to them or are they all just a bunch of ice demons commanding an army of snow zombies? Save the planet from humans? Like rogue AI they've realized the only way to keep the planet safe is to kill the humans. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On July 06 2016 07:02 TheDougler wrote: So my question is what's the end game for the night's king? I mean, they've put a decent bit of work into humanizing the white-walkers a bit, and now we know that they were created by the children of the forest. Do we think there's anything more to them or are they all just a bunch of ice demons commanding an army of snow zombies? Bring down the wall to escape their prison and spread over the whole continent, then maybe further. I mean humans would do about the same thing. Of course this begs the question, how would they defeat the wall? Is that even possible? After all they were not able to get past it for thousands of years. And following that, why do Jon and others believe the White Walkers are a threat to Westeros? Because so far it looks like they can only endanger the wildlings north of the walll. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On July 06 2016 06:57 3 Lions wrote: What kind of role do you guys think Euron is going to play next season? The way they introduced his character in the show deviates significantly from how he's portrayed in the books. Do you think D&D are trying to simplify his character and possibly the entire Ironborn endgame/plotline in general? He will be there to just sow chaos on the waters and screw with dany or Cersei at some point before eventually being killed off. He may present a first real threat to the dragons somehow since he knows they exist. | ||
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
On July 06 2016 07:41 Logo wrote: He will be there to just sow chaos on the waters and screw with dany or Cersei at some point before eventually being killed off. He may present a first real threat to the dragons somehow since he knows they exist. Maybe just merry Cersei. Cersei realising that she has to do what her father forced her to would be interesting. Provided he has a big fleet ready. The night king also could use a sailing trip... | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 06 2016 06:53 Hider wrote: Remind me again. Why exactly is Gilly in the story? Because Jon Snow isn't the only one who falls in love with a wildling. GRRM always says "the only thing worth writing about is the human heart in conflict with itself" (which is a faulkner quote) and Gilly is part of it in multiple ways (at least in the books) So while she might not be integral to the general plot development too much, she still offers human conflict to the story in some ways. | ||
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Talaris
Switzerland766 Posts
boooooo! you can't make special effects or supersilentcrazyNinjaAssassinTeleportAssassinations out of those "human heart" stories ! boooooring, this series needs more bewbs, and faster wrap-up.  Gilly is definitely a plot device,perhaps Sam needs to sacrifice a loved one to get SuperSayan-Maester-powers next Season ? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
On July 06 2016 08:05 The_Red_Viper wrote: Because Jon Snow isn't the only one who falls in love with a wildling. GRRM always says "the only thing worth writing about is the human heart in conflict with itself" (which is a faulkner quote) and Gilly is part of it in multiple ways (at least in the books) So while she might not be integral to the general plot development too much, she still offers human conflict to the story in some ways. As far as the show is concerned I believe Gilly is there to empower Sam. As seen in the Hornhill episode, which apparently made people cheer for sam. As far as I'm concerned Sam was a complete idiot in that situation. Therefore Gilly is a sleeper villain sent by the white walkers. She will do everything in her power to thwart Sam...I guess... | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On July 05 2016 22:25 tokinho wrote: HBO Posted this infographic. http://bit.ly/29twZv2 It leads me to one single conclusion. Brans vision is complete and has all the details needed to understand what will happen in seasons 7 and 8. It also leads to the most interesting conclusion of episode 10. The most important event that happened in the episode was Samwell going to the library with gilly. Bran's vision explained- + Show Spoiler + Basically I'll review it since its worthy of spending an section of a thread talking about how this scene will lead into season 7. Bran's vision has 5 events in it. I'll explain it, so only read if you are ok with spoiler. The first time that white walkers change the seasons, Danaerys Targaryan, Jon Targaryan and Jamie Targaryon are siblings(proof from the HBO Infographic. http://bit.ly/29twZv2). and that the last craster baby is needed to complete the Others. Bran's vision of Gilly is one of the most important parts of the vision, since it leads into season 7 and the others. Knowing that, Samwell goes to a library where he will read about the others. (The others cannot be killed by fire like all the other zombies but must be killed by Valerian steel.) This scene shows then with the raven, that the race is on for Bran to find Gilly, before the white walkers get her and take samwell north across the wall to act as his mediator between the liviing and the dead. wat how does that infographic show that Jaime is a Targaryen? When does Bran see Gilly in a vision?? Bran sees Dany and her dragons, Jaime killing the Mad King, he sees the Night King, the white walkers (and them turning a baby) and the army of the dead, he sees Tower of Joy, he sees wildfire. And then there are some other things he sees like his father being executed...but when does he see Gilly? | ||
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