On July 06 2016 02:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: That or Bran has visions of the dragons and goes back behind the wall to find Dany in hopes of stoping the Walkers thus allowing the Wall to fall.
I'm going to be really disappointed if the wall falls because Bran walks through it. It'd just be such an obvious problem and really inconsistent with the rest of what Bran is supposedly doing if he causes the whole invasion problem to begin with. The only way it'd work is if he had be set up all along by the 3 Eyed Raven or the Night's King.
I am afraid it's going to be that easy. Or at least, "this is too obvious" is not a valid reason anymore to predict things will not happen. In season 6 everything has been incredibly straightforward, and none of the fancy explanations people came up with for things that were "too obvious" turned out to be true.
After Bran left the cave after the zombie invasion I was actually expecting the wall to come down because of him crossing by the end of the season. Not sure now if it'l happen, but at least he is about to cross at the end, so the wall coming down or at least the WW crossing it could kick off Season 7 ...
On July 06 2016 02:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: That or Bran has visions of the dragons and goes back behind the wall to find Dany in hopes of stoping the Walkers thus allowing the Wall to fall.
I'm going to be really disappointed if the wall falls because Bran walks through it. It'd just be such an obvious problem and really inconsistent with the rest of what Bran is supposedly doing if he causes the whole invasion problem to begin with. The only way it'd work is if he had be set up all along by the 3 Eyed Raven or the Night's King.
In season 6 everything has been incredibly straightforward
This is a big part of why it was a let-down for me. The more the show writers take over, the more predictable it becomes. They telegraph what's going to happen, then it happens. I really hope they can move away from the generic battle of good vs evil with good winning that it seems to be headed towards.
On July 06 2016 06:57 3 Lions wrote: What kind of role do you guys think Euron is going to play next season? The way they introduced his character in the show deviates significantly from how he's portrayed in the books. Do you think D&D are trying to simplify his character and possibly the entire Ironborn endgame/plotline in general?
Euron was last seen building ships. Dany is now sailing west on ships. Big sea battle incoming?
If not, I fail to see what the point was in introducing Euron at all.
^ Euron has a Dragon Horn which supposedly can control Dany's dragons. He will probably use that as a bargaining chip and perhaps that can be a source of conflict between the two or he can simply try to win her trust by gifting it to her.
On July 06 2016 19:54 FreakyDroid wrote: ^ Euron has a Dragon Horn which supposedly can control Dany's dragons. He will probably use that as a bargaining chip and perhaps that can be a source of conflict between the two or he can simply try to win her trust by gifting it to her.
Where in the show has his dragon horn been mentioned? So far Euron's storyline is a dead end and it's entirely possible he will be scrapped from the show one way or another.
On July 06 2016 19:54 FreakyDroid wrote: ^ Euron has a Dragon Horn which supposedly can control Dany's dragons. He will probably use that as a bargaining chip and perhaps that can be a source of conflict between the two or he can simply try to win her trust by gifting it to her.
Where in the show has his dragon horn been mentioned? So far Euron's storyline is a dead end and it's entirely possible he will be scrapped from the show one way or another.
Well that's precisely why I think it will be included in the storyline. He can offer Danny ships (besides his cock ofc), but she already has plenty and considering the state of the armies in Westeros, I dont think she really needs them and she is already aligned to Yara. The way I see his storyline going forward is him making a display of the Dragon Horn and scaring Dany with it, or if there is no dragon horn on the show, she'll just burn down his ships with her dragons. His story could be irrelevant as you say, but it wouldnt make much sense imo since they spent a considerable time on it.
As for the book spoilers: arent the restrictions lifted by the mods? In case Im crossing the line, feel free to delete the posts ...
You're not supposed to reveal stuff that hasn't happened on the show, no. As for the predictability of the story, I agree, but I still have faith, considering the show writers know what GRR wants to do with the story, and they will stick with it, only filling the gaps. I definitely felt a downgrade in quality, but the big reveals (hodor, cercei blowing up pretty much all of king's landing characters) were still effective surprises for me. Maybe it won't be brought up with subtility, but I think the closure will still feel satisfying, or whatever GRR wants us to feel.
I think its expected the show and even the books to become predictable at this point, at least some of the major stuff for which GRRM has laid lots of ground work. Sure GRRM can create more twists and surprise us by going against his own ground work, but that wouldnt really be good storytelling, even he has stated this in interviews and I agree. The popularity of the show kind of hurts him as well, with so many of us talking on social media, articles in magazines, papers, youtube videos etc, lots of fans are clued in on the theories which they probably wouldnt have figured out on their own. But I still think the vast majority of people who watch the show have no idea about these theories and that they dont see it as predictable as we do.
IMO last season was great because all the major plotlines started converging. Some of the stories were weak especially the Arya storyline, not because it was a bit nonsensical to get stabbed and jump around 3 days later, but because it was dragged out and the many faced god/faceless men stuff was too convoluted which at the end didnt really make too much sense. What the season suffered from was generally weak dialogues and there was lack of verbal sparring between the characters and that is a hole left by lack of source material from GRRM. But when I look at the story as whole, I think the season delivered, perhaps not as strong as S1-S3 but it was still very good.
On July 06 2016 23:36 Cricketer12 wrote: So did Varys and the Snakes travel to Meereen only to travel back or did they meet up with Dany off the coast of Sunspear?
I think Dany's fleet picked them up from Dorne and they are close to King's Landing. Assuming some time has passed since the siege of Meereen, it actually solves Varys' teleportation everyone is oh so concerned about :D
On July 06 2016 23:48 FreakyDroid wrote: I think its expected the show and even the books to become predictable at this point, at least some of the major stuff for which GRRM has laid lots of ground work. Sure GRRM can create more twists and surprise us by going against his own ground work, but that wouldnt really be good storytelling, even he has stated this in interviews and I agree. The popularity of the show kind of hurts him as well, with so many of us talking on social media, articles in magazines, papers, youtube videos etc, lots of fans are clued in on the theories which they probably wouldnt have figured out on their own. But I still think the vast majority of people who watch the show have no idea about these theories and that they dont see it as predictable as we do.
IMO last season was great because all the major plotlines started converging. Some of the stories were weak especially the Arya storyline, not because it was a bit nonsensical to get stabbed and jump around 3 days later, but because it was dragged out and the many faced god/faceless men stuff was too convoluted which at the end didnt really make too much sense. What the season suffered from was generally weak dialogues and there was lack of verbal sparring between the characters and that is a hole left by lack of source material from GRRM. But when I look at the story as whole, I think the season delivered, perhaps not as strong as S1-S3 but it was still very good.
On July 06 2016 23:36 Cricketer12 wrote: So did Varys and the Snakes travel to Meereen only to travel back or did they meet up with Dany off the coast of Sunspear?
I think Dany's fleet picked them up from Dorne and they are close to King's Landing. Assuming some time has passed since the siege of Meereen, it actually solves Varys' teleportation everyone is oh so concerned about :D
On July 06 2016 23:48 FreakyDroid wrote: I think its expected the show and even the books to become predictable at this point, at least some of the major stuff for which GRRM has laid lots of ground work. Sure GRRM can create more twists and surprise us by going against his own ground work, but that wouldnt really be good storytelling, even he has stated this in interviews and I agree. The popularity of the show kind of hurts him as well, with so many of us talking on social media, articles in magazines, papers, youtube videos etc, lots of fans are clued in on the theories which they probably wouldnt have figured out on their own. But I still think the vast majority of people who watch the show have no idea about these theories and that they dont see it as predictable as we do.
IMO last season was great because all the major plotlines started converging. Some of the stories were weak especially the Arya storyline, not because it was a bit nonsensical to get stabbed and jump around 3 days later, but because it was dragged out and the many faced god/faceless men stuff was too convoluted which at the end didnt really make too much sense. What the season suffered from was generally weak dialogues and there was lack of verbal sparring between the characters and that is a hole left by lack of source material from GRRM. But when I look at the story as whole, I think the season delivered, perhaps not as strong as S1-S3 but it was still very good.
On July 06 2016 23:36 Cricketer12 wrote: So did Varys and the Snakes travel to Meereen only to travel back or did they meet up with Dany off the coast of Sunspear?
I think Dany's fleet picked them up from Dorne and they are close to King's Landing. Assuming some time has passed since the siege of Meereen, it actually solves Varys' teleportation everyone is oh so concerned about :D
Doesn't solve Wolverine (Arya), LF, Olenna, etc
Sometimes it seems to me that people would rather watch hours of footage of people being on a boat or in a carriage than the real plot
On July 07 2016 00:01 FreakyDroid wrote: Cricketer12, I got baited once in a nonsensical argument about nonsensical stuff that happened in a fantasy show, lets just say I learned my lesson :D
But good luck on your quest of solving the big mystery that is Arya's healing factor. Please clue me in on your findings.
I think she died. Lady Crane is a red women and brought Arya back to life...wait even that doesnt make sense look how frail Jon was. Um...maybe Hugh Jackman is a transgender? This explains how Sansa is Jean Gray?
On July 06 2016 23:48 FreakyDroid wrote: I think its expected the show and even the books to become predictable at this point, at least some of the major stuff for which GRRM has laid lots of ground work. Sure GRRM can create more twists and surprise us by going against his own ground work, but that wouldnt really be good storytelling, even he has stated this in interviews and I agree. The popularity of the show kind of hurts him as well, with so many of us talking on social media, articles in magazines, papers, youtube videos etc, lots of fans are clued in on the theories which they probably wouldnt have figured out on their own. But I still think the vast majority of people who watch the show have no idea about these theories and that they dont see it as predictable as we do.
IMO last season was great because all the major plotlines started converging. Some of the stories were weak especially the Arya storyline, not because it was a bit nonsensical to get stabbed and jump around 3 days later, but because it was dragged out and the many faced god/faceless men stuff was too convoluted which at the end didnt really make too much sense. What the season suffered from was generally weak dialogues and there was lack of verbal sparring between the characters and that is a hole left by lack of source material from GRRM. But when I look at the story as whole, I think the season delivered, perhaps not as strong as S1-S3 but it was still very good.
On July 06 2016 23:36 Cricketer12 wrote: So did Varys and the Snakes travel to Meereen only to travel back or did they meet up with Dany off the coast of Sunspear?
I think Dany's fleet picked them up from Dorne and they are close to King's Landing. Assuming some time has passed since the siege of Meereen, it actually solves Varys' teleportation everyone is oh so concerned about :D
Nah they are just leaving meereen:
time stamp doesn't seem to work, it's at 8 minutes.
EPT
