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On June 28 2016 16:10 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 15:00 VHbb wrote:
There are two question that are interesting for me:
1) does Littlefinger know about Dany and her ship? does he know that she is coming to Westeros? how does this factor into his plan of sitting on the iron throne?
2) what are the plans in the North for Jon and his banner men? do they want to go south or do they plan to fight (?) the army of the dead at the wall or in the North anyway?
Maybe it would be more safe to go south and maybe in the south the whitewalkers would be less strong (I imagine the winter will be harsher in the North), but I doubt they want to abandon their homeland to the dead .. (2) Cersei will probably (try to) send Jamie to conquer the North, because there's no way she'll let a new "King In The North" exist.
Does Cersei even have an army left?
From what I understand, the Tyrell army is on Dany's ships now. That only leaves the Lannister army.
Idk what the Freys will do now that their lord is dead.
The Lannister army is led by Jaime, after the shit that went down I am doubtful that he will march north on her command.
I'm a bit puzzled as to what will happen in KL now, I hope to god it's not going to be a meereenese knot situation.
Assuming Jaime will leave again, the only named characters left in KL are Cersei, Qyburn, and Gregor Clegane? That's not much to work with.
Great episode though.
Slightly disappointed that there was no Night King. He was listed on IMDB so I thought the wall would fall. In hindsight, with 14 episodes to go, the wall falling now is probably a bit early.
I was also hoping for Lord Tormund of House Giantsbane, hopefully that is still to come. The holds of Karstark/Umber/Bolton all need new lords...
edit: Thinking about it more, there are so many named characters that got axed this episode, or that merged their storylines with others.
There's pretty much no one in Essos left, I'm not sure we'll ever see Daario again.
Dorne/Olenna/Varys+Tyrion/Theon+Yara/Dany et al are all together and will presumably stay together from now on.
The entire north + Vale is also together.
KL has 3-4 named characters left.
There are some "roamers" such as gendry, arya, melisandre, the hound, ... that could get storylines next season. There's also Euron and Sam.
Still, it seems to me like the start of S7 will be build-up for new plotlines, or introduction of new characters again.
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Is Season 7 supposed to be the last one, or possibly an 8th?
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as far as i know there are 2 seasons left with like, 7,8 episodes each
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Yeah 2 more seasons remaining. One of those 2 seasons is pure Sand Snake arc
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On June 28 2016 09:38 kju wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 07:29 BlackCompany wrote:
I think another big problem of Cersei blowing shit up is that basically every influent/mighty person from the Lannister + Tyrell forces was in that sept (minus Olena i guess). So even though Cersei is queen now, she basically has noone left that could even help rule a kingdom. Not even mentioning settling the matters of all the houses that just lost their rulers. None of these people would have supported her anyways, so it's easier to get rid of them and leave everything around her in chaos. cersei never had any longterm plans or a particulary smart way to play the game. Most of her moves were pretty stupid and blinded by hate for everyone and love for jamie/her children. Despite that she's in the most powerful position she's ever been in 6 seasons. But she'll be a non-factor soon, either by the hands of jamie or someelse else. In my opinion the more interesting story is jamies endgame and how he fits into closure of the show. There's still the possibility that D&D let him go down with cersei, although that would be a travesty for his overall character development. Joining forces with dany because of tyrion sounds too cheesy for me, maybe he comes across brienne randomly.
True, i did not think about that. And i agree with you, i hope they will let Jaimee drift away from Cersei now once and for all. THe theory about him killing her does not have to be true but at least he should break up with her and try to condemn her for her crimes.
On June 28 2016 09:19 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 08:25 BlackCompany wrote:
How old is Littlefinger anyway? Maybe he changes his strategy and can forget his Stark girl obsession for a moment. I mean Dany wants to marry. That's fine but who does she plan to marry? There is barely anyone left that would make sense. Ignoring all minor houses, there is basically Tyrion, Jaimee, Jon and Littlefinger for male persons whom she can marry and that would be powerful enough to make it viable (unless there is a person we have never heard before magically appearing as an heir to Highgarden or something).
So maybe Littlefinger tries to get the Iron Throne that way Black-haired dude rowing the boat will feature in next season's trailer. You heard it here first 
You mean random-guy-number-35 on one of Danys boats? Well possibly  Maybe Daario did not listen to his queen after all.
Other possibility is that we still have not seen Howland Reed at all haha
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On June 28 2016 17:29 shin_toss wrote:
Yeah 2 more seasons remaining. One of those 2 seasons is pure Sand Snake arc
How the premiere of that season will go:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NjIOZWK.gif)
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On June 28 2016 18:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 17:29 shin_toss wrote:
Yeah 2 more seasons remaining. One of those 2 seasons is pure Sand Snake arc How the premiere of that season will go:
Lmao hahahahaha. Olena is such a badass
Olena roasting Sand Snakes over 7 episodes would still be better than what we had in Dorne so far though :p
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On June 28 2016 16:03 Scorch wrote:
Jon Targaryen confirmed? Some seem to think so, but I couldn't make out any of the whispering. Just because Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna doesn't mean it's his son. It could just as well be Robert's and Lyanna's love child from before the kidnapping (Jon has black hair!). Was Lyanna held captive for more than 9 months?
Considering Lyanna was afraid of Robert killing the child, it is most likely NOT Roberts.
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Lyanna being worried about Robert essentially confirms the father is a targ. The first half of season 1 made it very clear that Bobby B had an irrational hate.
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Okay so now Bran is a single medival internet user having connection only with specific trees? Some castles including Winterfell has such trees at least.
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rhaegar didn't kidnap lyanna
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the season finale was pretty dope.
one thing im not sure about though:
when did danny and tyrion get so chummy? did i miss something or was this their first REAL 1on1 scene? felt weird to me, that tyrion "suddenly" was all about danny.
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On June 28 2016 13:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
What actually makes me very sad about last nights episode is how many potentially interesting plot lines were just ended. Who was the High Sparrow really and what did he want? What was Margery's plan to get her and Loras out of their situation? Would Tommen end up maturing and being a good King?
And it raises questions too. I'm still baffled as to why Cersie is sitting on the throne. She has no right or claim to it. It's painfully obvious she was behind the explosion, why are people okay with a mass murderer, who's victims includes some of her own family members and the frickin Pope of Westeros,and has no right to the throne by lineage being the new Queen? The only army she has actually belongs to Jaime, and basically every single person in the world hates her at this point.
might makes right
welcome to the middle age
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On June 28 2016 17:29 shin_toss wrote:
Yeah 2 more seasons remaining. One of those 2 seasons is pure Sand Snake arc
I'd find that hard to believe as their banner was on some of the ships heading towards Westoros.
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That scene made me think the writers are very much aware of the sand snakes hate. It is almost like they broke the 4th wall there to tell us sand snakes have been shut down.
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There are 3 Sand Snakes in the show and 3 dragons, coincidence??? I think not
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On June 28 2016 19:15 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 13:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
What actually makes me very sad about last nights episode is how many potentially interesting plot lines were just ended. Who was the High Sparrow really and what did he want? What was Margery's plan to get her and Loras out of their situation? Would Tommen end up maturing and being a good King?
And it raises questions too. I'm still baffled as to why Cersie is sitting on the throne. She has no right or claim to it. It's painfully obvious she was behind the explosion, why are people okay with a mass murderer, who's victims includes some of her own family members and the frickin Pope of Westeros,and has no right to the throne by lineage being the new Queen? The only army she has actually belongs to Jaime, and basically every single person in the world hates her at this point. might makes right welcome to the middle age
I'm pretty sure there would instantly be uprisings/rebellions if you compare it to the real middle ages.
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On June 28 2016 21:50 MWY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 19:15 Erasme wrote:On June 28 2016 13:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
What actually makes me very sad about last nights episode is how many potentially interesting plot lines were just ended. Who was the High Sparrow really and what did he want? What was Margery's plan to get her and Loras out of their situation? Would Tommen end up maturing and being a good King?
And it raises questions too. I'm still baffled as to why Cersie is sitting on the throne. She has no right or claim to it. It's painfully obvious she was behind the explosion, why are people okay with a mass murderer, who's victims includes some of her own family members and the frickin Pope of Westeros,and has no right to the throne by lineage being the new Queen? The only army she has actually belongs to Jaime, and basically every single person in the world hates her at this point. might makes right welcome to the middle age I'm pretty sure there would instantly be uprisings/rebellions if you compare it to the real middle ages.
Uprisings come later down the line. A couple days after the massive explosion that kills the entire power structure of the kingdom, no one does anything. The unrest needs time to build after the shock.
So right about the time Dany arrives.
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