EPTRenowned warrior isn't said lightly in game of thrones. This was when tyrion had to meet the Dorne people arriving at kings landing for a reference
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Dunmer
United Kingdom568 Posts
Renowned warrior isn't said lightly in game of thrones. This was when tyrion had to meet the Dorne people arriving at kings landing for a reference | ||
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Excludos
Norway8204 Posts
On May 17 2014 06:48 Serejai wrote: Thankfully book readers won't be able to spoil the show anymore starting next season since the show will be ahead of the books :D Theres still an entire book to cover after this season. And im sure another one will be out before they're done with it. (I dont think this should count as spoilers as I haven't even read the later books myself yet.. but do tell if you think it is and Ill edit it out) | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On May 17 2014 07:24 Excludos wrote: Theres still an entire book to cover after this season. And im sure another one will be out before they're done with it. (I dont think this should count as spoilers as I haven't even read the later books myself yet.. but do tell if you think it is and Ill edit it out) actually two entire books, and another one that will (eventually) come out. Eventually. Then the last book. Additionally, Trial by Mortal Kombat. | ||
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
On May 17 2014 06:35 Raneth wrote: Sure, he seems cool so far, but "as smart as tywin" "as good as jamie the best swordsman in westeros" just, where is this coming from? I just wish bookies would keep their opinions to themselves :| they dont seem to realise how much they spoil stuff for those of us who just want to enjoy the show, and discuss the show with other people who watch the show. Even if you dont realise you're spoiling (not you specifically) the epistemic state of mind of a book reader is just so vastly different it colours everything you see, including characters actions. You seriously need to go away. There is obviously people in this thread with book knowledge but when it comes to Oberyn it is not book knowledge. You seem to have a lack of appreciation for this character, and that is fine, but you have repeatedly responded to long detailed posts listing all the things he has done that make them hyped about him IN THE SHOW, not in the book, and then you dismiss it out if hand. Oberyn shows up and has tyrion hype him up by calling him an awesome warrior and a dangerous person who has fucked half of westeros. He also talked about him how he hates Lannisters. He goes on to act like a complete badass in the brothel scene and the scene stabbing that Lannister soldier in the hand. He has an awesome accent. He walk around with serious swagger. He stands up to power and is not afraid to threaten Lannisters. He is constantly disrespecting Tywin and Cersei and the Lannisters in general. He has great lines. He acts in a very intelligent manner, making important power moves that got him on the counsel and the position of trial judge. He talks with extreme confidents, even when referring to fighting the mountain to tywin, when the mountain scares the hell out of everyone. You need to stop this bullcrap about how everyone hyped by Oberyn is clearly a book reader and that there is no indication he is super smart and super good at fighting from the show only because that is just fucking wrong. In truth he has been intentionally and clearly portrayed as the things people are talking about, and it is just you who somehow can't see it. Probably because you're so scared of book readers you resort to mccarthyistic accusations against everyone. You don't have to appreciate the character, but stop acting like everyone who does is a book reader. Read the multiple replies that clearly explain why he is a badass IN THE SHOW. | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
No need to publicly accuse someone of being a book reader out to spoil stuff, just PM a Mod (Me/zatic/Kwark) and we will take a look at it We delete spoilers fairly quickly, you are pretty safe here. Not 100% safe, but pretty safe for an internet thread about GoT  Now, lets get back to talking about how fucking badass Tyrions trial by command is going to be and how badass Oberyn is! | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On May 17 2014 10:52 KadaverBB wrote: book reader paranoia is making this thread worse than actual spoilers. Just stop thinking about it all the time. Keep posting, have fun. Not every theory by everyone is a spoiler, not every comment about character behaviour is a spoiler. No need to publicly accuse someone of being a book reader out to spoil stuff, just PM a Mod (Me/zatic/Kwark) and we will take a look at it We delete spoilers fairly quickly, you are pretty safe here. Not 100% safe, but pretty safe for an internet thread about GoT Now, lets get back to talking about how fucking badass Tyrions trial by command is going to be and how badass Oberyn is! Spoken like a true book reader. I'm on to you! | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On May 17 2014 10:52 KadaverBB wrote: book reader paranoia is making this thread worse than actual spoilers. Just stop thinking about it all the time. Keep posting, have fun. Not every theory by everyone is a spoiler, not every comment about character behaviour is a spoiler. No need to publicly accuse someone of being a book reader out to spoil stuff, just PM a Mod (Me/zatic/Kwark) and we will take a look at it We delete spoilers fairly quickly, you are pretty safe here. Not 100% safe, but pretty safe for an internet thread about GoT Now, lets get back to talking about how fucking badass Tyrions trial by command is going to be and how badass Oberyn is! I would probably find it more awesome if Tyrion's life weren't on the line since Tyrion is by far the best character and this is probably the first thing that's going to happen his season that I have no clue about what will happen because it hasn't been telegraphed at all by previous scenes. In any other show I would simply assume the slight reminder of who the mountain was a few episodes ago was to set him up for this so that he would die to a new character we were growing on and make both tyrion and oberyn popular loved characters but I also wouldn't put it past GoT to go the shocking route and use this moment to carve the mountain into the most hated character in GoT so either option is really a possibility. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On May 17 2014 10:29 Maghetti wrote: You seriously need to go away. There is obviously people in this thread with book knowledge but when it comes to Oberyn it is not book knowledge. You seem to have a lack of appreciation for this character, and that is fine, but you have repeatedly responded to long detailed posts listing all the things he has done that make them hyped about him IN THE SHOW, not in the book, and then you dismiss it out if hand. Oberyn shows up and has tyrion hype him up by calling him an awesome warrior and a dangerous person who has fucked half of westeros. He also talked about him how he hates Lannisters. He goes on to act like a complete badass in the brothel scene and the scene stabbing that Lannister soldier in the hand. He has an awesome accent. He walk around with serious swagger. He stands up to power and is not afraid to threaten Lannisters. He is constantly disrespecting Tywin and Cersei and the Lannisters in general. He has great lines. He acts in a very intelligent manner, making important power moves that got him on the counsel and the position of trial judge. He talks with extreme confidents, even when referring to fighting the mountain to tywin, when the mountain scares the hell out of everyone. You need to stop this bullcrap about how everyone hyped by Oberyn is clearly a book reader and that there is no indication he is super smart and super good at fighting from the show only because that is just fucking wrong. In truth he has been intentionally and clearly portrayed as the things people are talking about, and it is just you who somehow can't see it. Probably because you're so scared of book readers you resort to mccarthyistic accusations against everyone. You don't have to appreciate the character, but stop acting like everyone who does is a book reader. Read the multiple replies that clearly explain why he is a badass IN THE SHOW. You're seeing everything in a light that benefits Oberyn and are way too trigger-happy with the 'badass' label. He doesn't make moves to get any of those positions - they're offered to him by Tywin as a concession because Dorne is important. Tywin expected Prince Doran of Dorne to be there (they all did, as per the first episode), but instead they get the rash, passionate Oberyn, so Tywin has to give up a little more to get Dorne by offering more personal tributes. His confidence is also based in his wild personality. He's clearly capable - the brothel fight scene and Cersei labels him as one of the greatest fighters, but we've established that he's driven by passion more than anything and he really hates the mountain. Personally, I think starting a fight and seriously wounding a guy because he sang a song related to a house you dislike is not so much 'badass' as 'wildly uncontrollable', which is everything we've seen of Oberyn - he's not here with a plan so much as here as a wild card with near diplomatic immunity. And that's probably why he was sent instead of Dorne's ruler. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
the brothel fight scene and Cersei labels him as one of the greatest fighters For stabbing a guy with a dagger in the hand he's one of the greatest fighters? I don't know if I agree with that logic, but ok. | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
On May 17 2014 14:29 Zdrastochye wrote: For stabbing a guy with a dagger in the hand he's one of the greatest fighters? I don't know if I agree with that logic, but ok. He was super quick on just that though. He seems to pick his words wisely and be insanely quick, a bit rogue-like. It won't be a surprise if he is super good at combat (if we do see him fight that is) in general, considering he doesn't seem afraid to use his weapons. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On May 17 2014 19:34 Thalandros wrote: He was super quick on just that though. He seems to pick his words wisely and be insanely quick, a bit rogue-like. It won't be a surprise if he is super good at combat (if we do see him fight that is) in general, considering he doesn't seem afraid to use his weapons. They way i see it, if you're far away from home and (relatively) alone and are giving no respect to nobody, you wouldn't have made it this far if you weren't definitely a deadly motherfucker. | ||
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Raneth
England527 Posts
On May 17 2014 20:21 ShadeR wrote: They way i see it, if you're far away from home and (relatively) alone and are giving no respect to nobody, you wouldn't have made it this far if you weren't definitely a deadly motherfucker. Or if you had diplomatic immunity becuase you are a prince of a nation that people are desperate to make happy | ||
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RedFury
Italy85 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On May 17 2014 21:16 RedFury wrote: Oberyn is portrayed as a badass guy in the show, you can't like him. Also it seems that anyone who is from/has lived in Bravos is OP compared to all the other guys. Venice ftw! :D | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On May 17 2014 14:29 Zdrastochye wrote: For stabbing a guy with a dagger in the hand he's one of the greatest fighters? I don't know if I agree with that logic, but ok. .Read as 'the brothel fight scene, and Cersei labels him...' The Cersei scene is more important. Yes, she's flattering him, but he has some sort of renown in Westeros, which for her to even recognize is probably significant. Don't know if I agree with the previous 'equal to Jaime' suggestions. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23491 Posts
There is no way someone as hated as he is, could walk around with impunity if he wasn't a great fighter, royal or not. | ||
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BungaBunga
Italy23 Posts
Poll: Who has had the longest screen time (all seasons)? Daenerys (8) Tyrion (4) Cersei (1) Sansa (1) The Hound (1) Jon Snow (0) Arya (0) Littlefinger (0) Tywin Lannister (0) Jaime Lannister (0) Margaery (0) Bran (0) 15 total votes Your vote: Who has had the longest screen time (all seasons)? (Vote): Daenerys | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
Spoiler alert: Tyrion wins :S Also be aware of potential spoilers on that website. This particular thread is in their TV-only section but I probably still wouldn't read past the OP. | ||
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Raneth
England527 Posts
On May 17 2014 23:57 GreenHorizons wrote: I don't get the Oberyn haters. It seems pretty obvious he is an incredibly skilled fighter otherwise he wouldn't even be alive. Tywin would of had him assassinated long ago otherwise. There is no way someone as hated as he is, could walk around with impunity if he wasn't a great fighter, royal or not. You honestly think the reason he is alive is becuase he is a skilled combatant? | ||
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