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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24175 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 16:50:31
May 17 2014 16:44 GMT
#23281
On May 18 2014 01:39 Raneth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 23:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
I don't get the Oberyn haters. It seems pretty obvious he is an incredibly skilled fighter otherwise he wouldn't even be alive. Tywin would of had him assassinated long ago otherwise.

There is no way someone as hated as he is, could walk around with impunity if he wasn't a great fighter, royal or not.

You honestly think the reason he is alive is becuase he is a skilled combatant?



It's not THE reason but if he wasn't he would of been ''robbed" or something as soon as he came to EDIT: Kings Landing
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
May 17 2014 16:48 GMT
#23282
On May 18 2014 01:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2014 01:39 Raneth wrote:
On May 17 2014 23:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
I don't get the Oberyn haters. It seems pretty obvious he is an incredibly skilled fighter otherwise he wouldn't even be alive. Tywin would of had him assassinated long ago otherwise.

There is no way someone as hated as he is, could walk around with impunity if he wasn't a great fighter, royal or not.

You honestly think the reason he is alive is becuase he is a skilled combatant?



It's not THE reason but if he wasn't he would of been ''robbed" or something as soon as he came to Westeros.


He is not from the east, he is from Westeros. Dorne is to the south of Westeros, but still part of it.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24175 Posts
May 17 2014 16:50 GMT
#23283
On May 18 2014 01:48 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2014 01:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 18 2014 01:39 Raneth wrote:
On May 17 2014 23:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
I don't get the Oberyn haters. It seems pretty obvious he is an incredibly skilled fighter otherwise he wouldn't even be alive. Tywin would of had him assassinated long ago otherwise.

There is no way someone as hated as he is, could walk around with impunity if he wasn't a great fighter, royal or not.

You honestly think the reason he is alive is becuase he is a skilled combatant?



It's not THE reason but if he wasn't he would of been ''robbed" or something as soon as he came to Westeros.


He is not from the east, he is from Westeros. Dorne is to the south of Westeros, but still part of it.



I meant kings landing. my bad.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
BungaBunga
Profile Joined May 2014
Italy23 Posts
May 17 2014 18:22 GMT
#23284
Poll: What do you wish would exist in our world?

Warging (8)
 
25%

Resurrection (6)
 
19%

Faceswitch (6)
 
19%

Dragons (5)
 
16%

Valyrian Steel (2)
 
6%

Blood Magic (1)
 
3%

Greensight (1)
 
3%

Shadow-birthing (1)
 
3%

Necromancy (1)
 
3%

Wildfire (1)
 
3%

32 total votes

Your vote: What do you wish would exist in our world?

(Vote): Blood Magic
(Vote): Valyrian Steel
(Vote): Warging
(Vote): Dragons
(Vote): Greensight
(Vote): Shadow-birthing
(Vote): Resurrection
(Vote): Necromancy
(Vote): Wildfire
(Vote): Faceswitch

Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
May 17 2014 18:23 GMT
#23285
On May 18 2014 01:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2014 01:48 Spaylz wrote:
On May 18 2014 01:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 18 2014 01:39 Raneth wrote:
On May 17 2014 23:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
I don't get the Oberyn haters. It seems pretty obvious he is an incredibly skilled fighter otherwise he wouldn't even be alive. Tywin would of had him assassinated long ago otherwise.

There is no way someone as hated as he is, could walk around with impunity if he wasn't a great fighter, royal or not.

You honestly think the reason he is alive is becuase he is a skilled combatant?



It's not THE reason but if he wasn't he would of been ''robbed" or something as soon as he came to Westeros.


He is not from the east, he is from Westeros. Dorne is to the south of Westeros, but still part of it.



I meant kings landing. my bad.

Im fairly sure its just because he is an important noble. Tywin couldnt beat many people in a fight but you dont see anyone trying to rob him... o.o
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Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
May 17 2014 18:40 GMT
#23286
Face it people like Obreyn and have given their reasons for why and where on the baller scale they place him. With regards to things only shown in the show.

By your logic we could plug holes in why every character is liked or disliked etc.

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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
May 17 2014 19:26 GMT
#23287
What's so great about Valyrian steel? I feel like the show hasn't made good examples of why its so good. The only thing I know about it is that its super rare.
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Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 19:30:19
May 17 2014 19:30 GMT
#23288
On May 18 2014 03:40 Dunmer wrote:
Face it people like Obreyn and have given their reasons for why and where on the baller scale they place him. With regards to things only shown in the show.

By your logic we could plug holes in why every character is liked or disliked etc.


I didnt say there was no reason to like Obreyn now did i? I said there was no reason to be hyping him as the most baller fighter in westeros/dorne which people are doing

EDIT: some people
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albis
Profile Joined January 2010
United States652 Posts
May 17 2014 19:30 GMT
#23289
Super lightweight, sharp, durable. Having a light massive sword is OP
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biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 19:37:29
May 17 2014 19:36 GMT
#23290
On May 18 2014 04:30 albis wrote:
Super lightweight, sharp, durable. Having a light massive sword is OP


why are you spoiling the characteristics of valyrian steel, damn book readers

+ Show Spoiler +
sarcasm
Question.?
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
May 17 2014 19:38 GMT
#23291
On May 18 2014 04:30 albis wrote:
Super lightweight, sharp, durable. Having a light massive sword is OP

Do we know how it got those properties? I was confused when tywin had new swords forged, i thought they were super specail bad ass swords that couldnt be replicated at all. Is it just a rare material?
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
May 17 2014 20:21 GMT
#23292
On May 18 2014 04:38 Raneth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2014 04:30 albis wrote:
Super lightweight, sharp, durable. Having a light massive sword is OP

Do we know how it got those properties? I was confused when tywin had new swords forged, i thought they were super specail bad ass swords that couldnt be replicated at all. Is it just a rare material?


Those two new swords were made from Ned Stark's Valyrian Steel blade. I don't recall how much was mentioned about it in the show so I'm afraid to say anything but it's explained pretty well in the first book where it comes from, why it's so rare, how it's made etc. You can google it if you want; it's not really spoiling anything.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 20:52:22
May 17 2014 20:44 GMT
#23293
On May 18 2014 05:21 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2014 04:38 Raneth wrote:
On May 18 2014 04:30 albis wrote:
Super lightweight, sharp, durable. Having a light massive sword is OP

Do we know how it got those properties? I was confused when tywin had new swords forged, i thought they were super specail bad ass swords that couldnt be replicated at all. Is it just a rare material?


Those two new swords were made from Ned Stark's Valyrian Steel blade. I don't recall how much was mentioned about it in the show so I'm afraid to say anything but it's explained pretty well in the first book where it comes from, why it's so rare, how it's made etc. You can google it if you want; it's not really spoiling anything.


The backstory of Valerian is never told in the show, but they do mention a couple of things. The swords are made out of a rare material called Valerian Steel (shocker, I know). The material is finite, which is why there are only a few of them. Making swords out of the material is apparently very difficult and only very few blacksmiths are able to do it. One obviously lives in Kings landing, who helped reforge Ned's sword.

Swords made out of Valerian steel is very light, and they never break or chip. And I think thats all we know about it unless you start googling it or read the books.
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
May 17 2014 21:39 GMT
#23294
Thanks chaps
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Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
May 17 2014 22:17 GMT
#23295
Raneth I didnt say that you said "I didnt say there was no reason to like Obreyn now did i?", I just said people like him and are giving their reasons why they like him and think he is a baller.

Alas we can move on from the arguement, with regards to Valryian steel I think of how the Samurai craft their blades and then imagine that metal is made of mithril. Or just imagine its a first era elven crafted blade from the lord of the rings ^^.
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Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
May 17 2014 22:19 GMT
#23296
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
May 17 2014 22:37 GMT
#23297
On May 18 2014 07:19 Nesserev wrote:
So, basically they're the lightsaber equivalent of the 'Game of Thrones'-world


You can basically think of them as the Damascus Steel of the Game of Thrones universe.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44204 Posts
May 17 2014 23:28 GMT
#23298
On May 18 2014 05:44 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2014 05:21 Serejai wrote:
On May 18 2014 04:38 Raneth wrote:
On May 18 2014 04:30 albis wrote:
Super lightweight, sharp, durable. Having a light massive sword is OP

Do we know how it got those properties? I was confused when tywin had new swords forged, i thought they were super specail bad ass swords that couldnt be replicated at all. Is it just a rare material?


Those two new swords were made from Ned Stark's Valyrian Steel blade. I don't recall how much was mentioned about it in the show so I'm afraid to say anything but it's explained pretty well in the first book where it comes from, why it's so rare, how it's made etc. You can google it if you want; it's not really spoiling anything.


The backstory of Valerian is never told in the show, but they do mention a couple of things. The swords are made out of a rare material called Valerian Steel (shocker, I know). The material is finite, which is why there are only a few of them. Making swords out of the material is apparently very difficult and only very few blacksmiths are able to do it. One obviously lives in Kings landing, who helped reforge Ned's sword.

Swords made out of Valerian steel is very light, and they never break or chip. And I think thats all we know about it unless you start googling it or read the books.

Tywin said in the episode that he had to pay the guy with the skill to work it to cross the ocean from the free cities, nobody in Westeros had that skill and only two people in Essos.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24175 Posts
May 18 2014 02:00 GMT
#23299
On May 18 2014 03:23 Raneth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2014 01:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 18 2014 01:48 Spaylz wrote:
On May 18 2014 01:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 18 2014 01:39 Raneth wrote:
On May 17 2014 23:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
I don't get the Oberyn haters. It seems pretty obvious he is an incredibly skilled fighter otherwise he wouldn't even be alive. Tywin would of had him assassinated long ago otherwise.

There is no way someone as hated as he is, could walk around with impunity if he wasn't a great fighter, royal or not.

You honestly think the reason he is alive is becuase he is a skilled combatant?



It's not THE reason but if he wasn't he would of been ''robbed" or something as soon as he came to Westeros.


He is not from the east, he is from Westeros. Dorne is to the south of Westeros, but still part of it.



I meant kings landing. my bad.

Im fairly sure its just because he is an important noble. Tywin couldnt beat many people in a fight but you dont see anyone trying to rob him... o.o


Yeah it's not their nobleness that keeps them safe. You didn't see them clearing the peasants during the riot in Kings Landing with their 'nobility'...?

Lannisters barely even walk around the Red Keep without armed guards. Anyone who matters, even many of the ones that can fight, don't go far without other armed men. The freedom with which Oberyn walks around alone, what is essentially hostile territory, and his relaxed demeanor is indicative that he doesn't think anyone poses any threat to him in combat.

'Rob'= assassinate but attempt to make it look like a common robbery.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 18 2014 04:01 GMT
#23300
On May 18 2014 11:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2014 03:23 Raneth wrote:
On May 18 2014 01:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 18 2014 01:48 Spaylz wrote:
On May 18 2014 01:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 18 2014 01:39 Raneth wrote:
On May 17 2014 23:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
I don't get the Oberyn haters. It seems pretty obvious he is an incredibly skilled fighter otherwise he wouldn't even be alive. Tywin would of had him assassinated long ago otherwise.

There is no way someone as hated as he is, could walk around with impunity if he wasn't a great fighter, royal or not.

You honestly think the reason he is alive is becuase he is a skilled combatant?



It's not THE reason but if he wasn't he would of been ''robbed" or something as soon as he came to Westeros.


He is not from the east, he is from Westeros. Dorne is to the south of Westeros, but still part of it.



I meant kings landing. my bad.

Im fairly sure its just because he is an important noble. Tywin couldnt beat many people in a fight but you dont see anyone trying to rob him... o.o


Yeah it's not their nobleness that keeps them safe. You didn't see them clearing the peasants during the riot in Kings Landing with their 'nobility'...?

Lannisters barely even walk around the Red Keep without armed guards. Anyone who matters, even many of the ones that can fight, don't go far without other armed men. The freedom with which Oberyn walks around alone, what is essentially hostile territory, and his relaxed demeanor is indicative that he doesn't think anyone poses any threat to him in combat.

'Rob'= assassinate but attempt to make it look like a common robbery.

It's not even close to 'hostile territory', and the guy still showed up with quite a few guards. Yes, they showed up later (though almost certainly shared the road with him). No, he's not hanging out in the dangerous areas of the city. And Lannisters barely walk around without armed guards because they have a ton of armed guards to walk around with, seeing as it's practically their keep/city.

The guy is cool and obviously capable but lets be reasonable here.
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