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Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
November 26 2012 06:49 GMT
#4901
I like that they changed the predictable format of the season. This episode was...interesting. Killing a sniper at a populated shooting range seemed like he was relying on luck a little too much, though.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Akamu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States309 Posts
November 26 2012 07:14 GMT
#4902
RIP Isaac. Awesome character! interesting that they tied up all those ends with only 3 episodes left in the season. Maybe the fireman killer guy will carry over into next season?
I hear your heart beat to the beat of the drums, what a shame that you came here with someone.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
November 26 2012 07:16 GMT
#4903
Meh. Issac getting shot just felt like such a shitty scene for such a great character.
Sup.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 07:56:45
November 26 2012 07:18 GMT
#4904
On November 26 2012 16:14 Akamu wrote:
RIP Isaac. Awesome character! interesting that they tied up all those ends with only 3 episodes left in the season. Maybe the fireman killer guy will carry over into next season?


Eh, doesn't really seem like a formidable opponent. Then again, neither did DDK, so who knows.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Suffo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States936 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 07:27:50
November 26 2012 07:27 GMT
#4905
It will be LaGuerta vs Dexter in S8 for sure it looks like, the fire culprit sure seems like that guy at the fire scenes but I think that would be too dumb/obvious like you said.

Did anyone else get a sense of awkwardness in the last scene between Hannah and Dexter, she seemed put off by what he was saying >.>
Akamu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States309 Posts
November 26 2012 07:32 GMT
#4906
On November 26 2012 16:27 Suffo wrote:
It will be LaGuerta vs Dexter in S8 for sure it looks like, the fire culprit sure seems like that guy at the fire scenes but I think that would be too dumb/obvious like you said.

Did anyone else get a sense of awkwardness in the last scene between Hannah and Dexter, she seemed put off by what he was saying >.>

Yes I did! Idk what that look was but she totally looked put off! Then the preview shows them argueing a little bit.... I'm scared.
I hear your heart beat to the beat of the drums, what a shame that you came here with someone.
Suffo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States936 Posts
November 26 2012 07:47 GMT
#4907
On November 26 2012 16:32 Akamu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 16:27 Suffo wrote:
It will be LaGuerta vs Dexter in S8 for sure it looks like, the fire culprit sure seems like that guy at the fire scenes but I think that would be too dumb/obvious like you said.

Did anyone else get a sense of awkwardness in the last scene between Hannah and Dexter, she seemed put off by what he was saying >.>

Yes I did! Idk what that look was but she totally looked put off! Then the preview shows them argueing a little bit.... I'm scared.


Yea its off that she acted that way but like she's the one that wanted him to open up in the opening scene and said "I miss you" and now shes all like wtf???? Just a bit weird.

And I would avoid watching the next episode previews and recaps (previously on Dexter), it spoils way too much from what I've seen. Even the previously on Dexter stuff shows scenes from like other seasons so you can kind of tell what storylines/characters will show up.
goldspoon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada112 Posts
November 26 2012 08:19 GMT
#4908
Things LaGuerta knows:

1. Dexter knows that Miguel killed the female defense attorney and agrees with LaGuerta to hide the truth in order to preserve Miguel's image since he is dead.
2. Doaks sort of kills for justice, and LaGuerta at some level was ok with it (droped further investigation agaisnt doaks in season 1 after she confronted him and he sort of admitted everything), this can potentially make LaGuerta's judement on Dexter very...interesting.

Things she dont know:
...
52. Dexter saved her from Miguel. (This can matter since writters for dexter actually do like to bring up previous season's stuff for the sake of continuity)
53. Doaks was killed by Lylla(pardon the spelling...), which even Dexter have not told Deborah (yet)
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 08:57:03
November 26 2012 08:55 GMT
#4909
On November 26 2012 17:19 goldspoon wrote:
Things LaGuerta knows:

1. Dexter knows that Miguel killed the female defense attorney and agrees with LaGuerta to hide the truth in order to preserve Miguel's image since he is dead.
2. Doaks sort of kills for justice, and LaGuerta at some level was ok with it (droped further investigation agaisnt doaks in season 1 after she confronted him and he sort of admitted everything), this can potentially make LaGuerta's judement on Dexter very...interesting.

Things she dont know:
...
52. Dexter saved her from Miguel. (This can matter since writters for dexter actually do like to bring up previous season's stuff for the sake of continuity)
53. Doaks was killed by Lylla(pardon the spelling...), which even Dexter have not told Deborah (yet)


She already knows its dexter, shes just looking to get matthews to agree. She needs matthews to go a long because hey, shes gonna be dead as a doornail in the finale. The interesting part out of all of this is she will be forever beholden towards protecting the memory of doakes whereas matthews swore to always protect Harry's legacy (his kids deb and dex)Additionally, she cared for doakes much more that she does about dexter saving her which I'm quite sure the writers have forgotten/ignoring. Additionally Debra seems to have completely forgotten that anyone named Doakes was ever alive, she especially never had a partner named doakes that she looked up to for guidance for two seasons.
goldspoon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada112 Posts
November 26 2012 09:02 GMT
#4910
On November 26 2012 17:55 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 17:19 goldspoon wrote:
Things LaGuerta knows:

1. Dexter knows that Miguel killed the female defense attorney and agrees with LaGuerta to hide the truth in order to preserve Miguel's image since he is dead.
2. Doaks sort of kills for justice, and LaGuerta at some level was ok with it (droped further investigation agaisnt doaks in season 1 after she confronted him and he sort of admitted everything), this can potentially make LaGuerta's judement on Dexter very...interesting.

Things she dont know:
...
52. Dexter saved her from Miguel. (This can matter since writters for dexter actually do like to bring up previous season's stuff for the sake of continuity)
53. Doaks was killed by Lylla(pardon the spelling...), which even Dexter have not told Deborah (yet)


She already knows its dexter, shes just looking to get matthews to agree. She needs matthews to go a long because hey, shes gonna be dead as a doornail in the finale. The interesting part out of all of this is she will be forever beholden towards protecting the memory of doakes whereas matthews swore to always protect Harry's legacy (his kids deb and dex)Additionally, she cared for doakes much more that she does about dexter saving her which I'm quite sure the writers have forgotten/ignoring. Additionally Debra seems to have completely forgotten that anyone named Doakes was ever alive, she especially never had a partner named doakes that she looked up to for guidance for two seasons.


great point on debra, im sure the writters have totally forgotten about this part...which sucks b/c it has so much potential to work with, guess they are just lazy. (or maybe they are really ignorant which wouldnt surprise me from the quality of season 5&6...seriously that anti climatic season finale to season 5 after all that build up haha poor Jordan Chase)
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
November 26 2012 09:35 GMT
#4911
On November 26 2012 18:02 goldspoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 17:55 abominare wrote:
On November 26 2012 17:19 goldspoon wrote:
Things LaGuerta knows:

1. Dexter knows that Miguel killed the female defense attorney and agrees with LaGuerta to hide the truth in order to preserve Miguel's image since he is dead.
2. Doaks sort of kills for justice, and LaGuerta at some level was ok with it (droped further investigation agaisnt doaks in season 1 after she confronted him and he sort of admitted everything), this can potentially make LaGuerta's judement on Dexter very...interesting.

Things she dont know:
...
52. Dexter saved her from Miguel. (This can matter since writters for dexter actually do like to bring up previous season's stuff for the sake of continuity)
53. Doaks was killed by Lylla(pardon the spelling...), which even Dexter have not told Deborah (yet)


She already knows its dexter, shes just looking to get matthews to agree. She needs matthews to go a long because hey, shes gonna be dead as a doornail in the finale. The interesting part out of all of this is she will be forever beholden towards protecting the memory of doakes whereas matthews swore to always protect Harry's legacy (his kids deb and dex)Additionally, she cared for doakes much more that she does about dexter saving her which I'm quite sure the writers have forgotten/ignoring. Additionally Debra seems to have completely forgotten that anyone named Doakes was ever alive, she especially never had a partner named doakes that she looked up to for guidance for two seasons.


great point on debra, im sure the writters have totally forgotten about this part...which sucks b/c it has so much potential to work with, guess they are just lazy. (or maybe they are really ignorant which wouldnt surprise me from the quality of season 5&6...seriously that anti climatic season finale to season 5 after all that build up haha poor Jordan Chase)


IIRC the original plan was that the series would end by the 5th possibly 6th season. Which honestly would have made a lot more sense, one of the biggest difficulties by the writers was handling the post season 4 world. As a series they strongly relied on really a formulaic system have having a major investigation that linked Dexter to an ultimate bad guy kill at the end of the season. Often a series of smaller kills were done to link a small parallel subplot and allow some minor character development.

The problem was they hired Lithgow, who spent years and years refining his craft not only in movies but in the theatre as an actual actor. He delivered such a powerful effect to the show that literally destroyed the stage for the next guy. When dexter returned and there was much more talk about continuing the series well beyond the original lifespan the writers tried to follow the formula again but the season was ultimately very hollow. Chase's actor wasn't bad per se but the act he was following light years ahead and the script stunted to prevent a premature ending to the series. He was doomed from the beginning.

Season 6 tried again harder this time by bringing bigger named actors and the son of one. While it didn't stutter we were left a rather odd cliff hanger/twist at the end that is expected to help propel us to the end of the series. (deb in love subplot) One of the real problems with season 7 is that the writers have tried to deviate from their formula with the twisting of Hannah/Isaak to downplay the role of having a big bag guy season finale. While i can appreciate them trying somethign new the problem incurred is that without a major investigation we've basically forgotten about the police force because now they have little reason to have dex at work other than to use the coffee machine and the high speed internet there.
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
November 26 2012 09:41 GMT
#4912
Am I the only one that likes Hannah but wants Dexter to end up with Debra? I know that's probably a long shot at this point. It also feels like that was the way it was intended, and maybe the divorce between Hall and Carpenter played a role in that change.

I also saw some dissonance between Hannah and Dexter in the preview, but then again it's just a preview and is meant to stir up the prediction machine.

And yeah, I think the Doakes thing has bugged me too. Part of it is probably the sheer amount of questions Debra would have for Dexter, and what amount of time they can spend on all of it.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 26 2012 09:45 GMT
#4913
weak ass way for Issac to go out after how great the last ep was D;

I do agree that this at least makes the format less predictable for how the season will end though. Perhaps the season ends with Dexter getting busted o.o
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kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 10:03:52
November 26 2012 09:53 GMT
#4914
Isaac dying totally out of the blue with loads of character build-up, the hot blonde put off by Dexter's emo-ness and Deborah and Dexter discussing their love surrounded by a whole bunch of people, not my favourite episode this season.
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Neeh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway458 Posts
November 26 2012 09:55 GMT
#4915
I just can't stand Hannah, and the people who's all hoopy poopy about here cause she's "hot". I guess that's what annoys me the most, people who just sees her actor, not the character, but w/e...

It's just annoying that every season almost there's this new love interest, first it's crazy chick lila, then it's normal rita, whom I actually liked, but also found it fitting for her to die, then it's Lumen, and wow now it's Hannah that strolls along! And each and every one either sees him for what he is, or nurtures his good sides or whatever..It's getting old! I mean even Miguel fits that role..sorta. You'd think they'd be done with that...

I'd like if they just took it all out and had it end on Deb+Dex, just cause it's never really been done before, it's great with a lil bit of controversy, instead of the clichè serial killer meets serial killer..who'd imagine.
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 10:14:34
November 26 2012 09:59 GMT
#4916
On November 26 2012 18:53 kafkaesque wrote:
1984



1984


On another topic, I will be so damned pissed if the arson guy is the arson investigator.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 10:38:56
November 26 2012 10:04 GMT
#4917
On November 26 2012 18:59 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 18:53 kafkaesque wrote:
Isaac pulling a BLEEP dying totally out of the blue with loads of character build-up, the hot blonde put off by Dexter's emo-ness and Deborah and Dexter discussing their love surrounded by a whole bunch of people, not my favourite episode this season.



Gee thanks for that spoiler about the other series I watch/read but haven't caught up on.


Jerk.


Fuck man, I'm so sorry, please edit your post, as did I.

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Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 10:59:42
November 26 2012 10:46 GMT
#4918
When Dexter sends a email to himself when talking on Issac's phone, there will be a record of that on Issacs phone- Issac could easily of seen that. However, It was just a photo so Issac may of dismissed it as being not important.

I think Tom will be the one saving Dexter from LaGuerta. He is the Morgans' 'dad' since their real dad died, he has always been keeping a caring eye on the Morgans. That is why (imo) he gos to see LaGuerta again , so he can make sure Dexter isnt in trouble. Furthermore, I think it will come out that Tom knows Dexter is a trained killer, I think Tom knew that Dexters' dad was training him to be a killer.
*burp*
goldspoon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada112 Posts
November 26 2012 11:16 GMT
#4919
On November 26 2012 19:46 Parcelleus wrote:
When Dexter sends a email to himself when talking on Issac's phone, there will be a record of that on Issacs phone- Issac could easily of seen that. However, It was just a photo so Issac may of dismissed it as being not important.

I think Tom will be the one saving Dexter from LaGuerta. He is the Morgans' 'dad' since their real dad died, he has always been keeping a caring eye on the Morgans. That is why (imo) he gos to see LaGuerta again , so he can make sure Dexter isnt in trouble. Furthermore, I think it will come out that Tom knows Dexter is a trained killer, I think Tom knew that Dexters' dad was training him to be a killer.


I agree, I actually hope them to take this direction instead of completely ignoring Tom's promise to Morgans' father and just helps LaGuerta out of getting his career back.(which is very likely to happen lol)
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
November 26 2012 11:19 GMT
#4920
On November 26 2012 18:55 Neeh wrote:
I just can't stand Hannah, and the people who's all hoopy poopy about here cause she's "hot". I guess that's what annoys me the most, people who just sees her actor, not the character, but w/e...

It's just annoying that every season almost there's this new love interest, first it's crazy chick lila, then it's normal rita, whom I actually liked, but also found it fitting for her to die, then it's Lumen, and wow now it's Hannah that strolls along! And each and every one either sees him for what he is, or nurtures his good sides or whatever..It's getting old! I mean even Miguel fits that role..sorta. You'd think they'd be done with that...

I'd like if they just took it all out and had it end on Deb+Dex, just cause it's never really been done before, it's great with a lil bit of controversy, instead of the clichè serial killer meets serial killer..who'd imagine.


I agree, but it is normal behaviour that you are interested in having a romantic relationship. And it is also quite normal to have many partners during a lifetime, so I dont really mind that Dexter is exploring his love interests.

Hannah is quite an interesting character imo, lots of contradictions. Dont know know quite what to expect so I think there will be a big surprise by the end of this season regarding her. She seems passive aggressive manipulator to me , evidenced by the way she killed Jurg. I also think her character is stone cold inside, that is why when Dexter shows emotion at the end, she finds it 'weird'. I think this episode is the beginning of the end of Dexter and Hannah.
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