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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-10 20:25:38
September 10 2017 20:05 GMT
#241
you'll probably dislike other burgess books since they're not that similar to ACO

burgess himself didnt like ACO that much, he half assed it in two weeks to get paid
TranslatorBaa!
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
September 10 2017 22:15 GMT
#242
On September 11 2017 05:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
you'll probably dislike other burgess books since they're not that similar to ACO

burgess himself didnt like ACO that much, he half assed it in two weeks to get paid


wow, thanks for the faith in me cheep, dang.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 10 2017 22:30 GMT
#243
lol well its just burgess' other novels are either spy novels or joyce pastiches/homages, both of which are pretty different from aco
TranslatorBaa!
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
September 13 2017 09:48 GMT
#244
Animal Farm by George Orwell. So yeah it's a classic and all that so my criticism isn't really worth sharing, but I really didn't get much out of it. It's just a brief and obvious allegory. That's really it. Why read it over a history book? It doesn't go into personal detail in any satisfying way and it's not full of delicious writing. It's just kind of a summary of what happened almost beat for beat. I can't help feeling it would've been significantly better if it was completely original or actually explained things in detail (like a history book would). I guess it was probably a lot more interesting before people learnt about the Russian revolution in school.

Not sure if there's any reason to read this, especially when 1984 exists.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
rbetenoire
Profile Joined January 2015
United States28 Posts
September 13 2017 12:54 GMT
#245
What are some good hard sci-fi novels from this decade?
VaultD
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland85 Posts
September 13 2017 16:19 GMT
#246
Not sure on your definition of hard sci-fi, but The Expanse -series is pretty good. I also really liked (And I think many readers in the previous iterations of this topic did too) Seveneves by Stephenson.
“Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.”
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
September 13 2017 16:54 GMT
#247
I liked Red Rising. Not particularly deep but the story drags you in and the characters are memorable. I listened to the audio books and I must say the writer in combination with this narrator made for an excellent combo. The emotions were quite vivid and relatable.

Just checked and the narrator was Tim Gerald Reynolds FYI.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
September 13 2017 17:21 GMT
#248
On September 13 2017 21:54 rbetenoire wrote:
What are some good hard sci-fi novels from this decade?


Blindsight, Peter Watts. It's a little older than a decade but it's really great.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18299 Posts
September 14 2017 05:55 GMT
#249
On September 13 2017 21:54 rbetenoire wrote:
What are some good hard sci-fi novels from this decade?

The Expanse series by James Corey (TV series is also good)
the Three-body Problem and its sequels by Cixin Liu

Less hard:
The Long series by Baxter and Pratchett
The children of the sky (Vernor Vinge)

Haven't read seveneves yet, but it looks promising.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 14 2017 15:19 GMT
#250
is TBP really considered hard sci fi?
TranslatorBaa!
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
September 15 2017 03:53 GMT
#251
Just started three body problem yesterday. Especially interesting because I've also lived in China for a couple of years.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-15 17:24:33
September 15 2017 17:11 GMT
#252
I had the problem that I could never take TBP serious. The "science" did not make sense to me and the characters and their behavior just seemed so unrealistic. Maybe that is because it is from a different culture but I was never able to suspend disbelief even a little.

Liked The Expanse much more, read all 6 published so far. It is like classic hard sf but politically modern. I love how it champions science and you sometimes have simple "boring" scientists as the heros (same is true for TBP even more to be fair). Although I got less happy with it towards the later books. The main characters started to annoy me because it is always the same few people that solve the universe's problems while the rest is rather useless. And their relationships are stale and boring.
Off-season = best season
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
September 17 2017 15:53 GMT
#253
Just finished the 3 body problem. I think it was quite a cool story that kept its fiction close enough to modern scientific knowledge to be believable. I am not scientifically literate at all but I do follow it enough to be broadly familiar with most of the concepts and problems described in this book. Even though the characters, as many people mentioned, are quite one-dimensional I don't really think it matters because they are essentially just "tools" for the writer to tell his story of civilization and the impact of science and politics.

The only problem I had with it is that + Show Spoiler +
I didn't really like the part where he describes the POV of the Trisolarians. I understand he needed it for some scientific exposé on how they checkmated us, and to show parallels between Wang Jie and Listener 1300 something, but they are still from a planet far far away so I don't understand how they could so easily figure out how to politically manipulate people from earth. Perhaps he should've highlighted how ETO explained them how to exploit humanities weaknesses or something.

Otherwise a great and refreshing read.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
September 17 2017 18:27 GMT
#254
On September 13 2017 18:48 Flicky wrote:
Animal Farm by George Orwell. So yeah it's a classic and all that so my criticism isn't really worth sharing, but I really didn't get much out of it. It's just a brief and obvious allegory. That's really it. Why read it over a history book? It doesn't go into personal detail in any satisfying way and it's not full of delicious writing. It's just kind of a summary of what happened almost beat for beat. I can't help feeling it would've been significantly better if it was completely original or actually explained things in detail (like a history book would). I guess it was probably a lot more interesting before people learnt about the Russian revolution in school.

Not sure if there's any reason to read this, especially when 1984 exists.


I find Orwell a fascinating character. There's so much underlying tension in his works. Like he's trying to be honest and good, but he realizes he's a misanthrope more interested in his own ideas than people. He tries to warn us of the dangers of authoritarianism while defending his socialism. He expounds on the danger of colonialism while holding the actual colonized peoples and cultures with barely concealed contempt.

I don't say this to denigrate him. He's halfway there. He just doesn't quite use all of his keen observations to reassess the world.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4756 Posts
September 19 2017 08:55 GMT
#255
On September 13 2017 18:48 Flicky wrote:
Animal Farm by George Orwell. So yeah it's a classic and all that so my criticism isn't really worth sharing, but I really didn't get much out of it. It's just a brief and obvious allegory. That's really it. Why read it over a history book? It doesn't go into personal detail in any satisfying way and it's not full of delicious writing. It's just kind of a summary of what happened almost beat for beat. I can't help feeling it would've been significantly better if it was completely original or actually explained things in detail (like a history book would). I guess it was probably a lot more interesting before people learnt about the Russian revolution in school.

Not sure if there's any reason to read this, especially when 1984 exists.


Why would anyone suggest reading Animal Farm over history book? Its satire obviously, its not meant to replace actual history knowledge of any kind. Also You need to remember when the book was written. At the time many people (even intelectuals) were in love with communism. Your todays perspective is tottaly different than what people were thinking back then. Its easy to see all the flaws of communism after the fall of Soviet Union, not so much when book was first published.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
September 19 2017 12:58 GMT
#256
Anyone have a good suggestion for social dynamics books? Ive done:

Captivate - Vanessa van Edwards (pretty good)
You are a badass - Jen sincero
Influence - Robert Cialdini
I carve marble busts of assassinated world leaders - PM for a quote
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-07 02:26:23
October 07 2017 02:25 GMT
#257
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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
October 07 2017 07:06 GMT
#258
On October 07 2017 11:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
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Pfft "soccer"
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
October 12 2017 07:39 GMT
#259
Finished "We are legion - We are Bob". Fun little book about a nerdy engineer who gets turned into an A.I. controlling a Von Neumann machine. Apart from the whacky adventures the concept of how such a machine could work is pretty cool. Definetely recommended for people who like sci fi as this story continuously winks at sci fi tropes.
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
October 16 2017 19:51 GMT
#260
On September 04 2017 19:47 ETisME wrote:
I am reading: At the Existentialist Café

it's a really good book. I have bought quite a few philosophical books on this topic but they were neither extremely difficult or not relateable.

This book is basically a history of existentialism told in a very human way. There are difficult concepts but often mixed with personal dramas.
(Sarter for example has a very open relationship with Beauvoir, they have other partners, some of those are children, some of those are married to the one who is cheating with another etc.)

The most prodominate figures are Sarter, Beauvoir and Camus (plus many others of cause), and I now understand the significance of their work. Mostly because I have never considered the time and age it was written under.

A lot of them are from France and had went through pre-war and war time to liberating France in WW2.
Their work provide a beacon of light to those who are struggling to cope with the rapid change in society.

I am close to finishing it, after this I will be going back to the books of these existentialists.

Highly recommended even if you are not into philosophy, but there is a high chance you will like philosophy after reading the book


Read this, very much enjoyed this as well! Thanks for the recommendation. Going to read a number of the books mentioned within.

Also read Break it Down and Almost No Memory by [b]Lydia Davis. Some stories really resonate with me, others not so much. Nothing goes to either extreme or being amazing or terrible and they're so short they are pretty much incapable of overstaying their welcome.
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