EPTAs a separate plot question that probably isn't answered yet, how do the robots "die"? Are they given hit points or something so they just fall over when shot or do they actually need to be mortally wounded and rely on some kind of anatomy like humans? So for example, you could have play-acting where a human guest shoots all the robots dead, but if a robot goes haywire and threatens a human guest, the other hosts will bring themselves back to stop it.
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
As a separate plot question that probably isn't answered yet, how do the robots "die"? Are they given hit points or something so they just fall over when shot or do they actually need to be mortally wounded and rely on some kind of anatomy like humans? So for example, you could have play-acting where a human guest shoots all the robots dead, but if a robot goes haywire and threatens a human guest, the other hosts will bring themselves back to stop it. | ||
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nukem1
345 Posts
I hope it examines conflicts between newly formed consciences as the robots battle among competing self-interests as well as older generations trying to express themselves in a world against newer generations of control that try to limit such expression (e.g. Dolores wants to wield a knife and all the other robots automatically try to stop her). It sounds like you just want to see full scale host wars  )I don't see any reason why developing an individual consciousness would lead to hosts becoming aggressive towards each other. As a separate plot question that probably isn't answered yet, how do the robots "die"? Are they given hit points or something so they just fall over when shot or do they actually need to be mortally wounded and rely on some kind of anatomy like humans? I think only the older generation hosts can be labeled as "robots", the newer ones look like they are 3D printed by some machine and have some sort of cpu in their head. For me, it seems that their bodies follow human anatomy so if they are shot in a vital organ they die - Teddy almost "died" but was saved by MiB. So for example, you could have play-acting where a human guest shoots all the robots dead, but if a robot goes haywire and threatens a human guest, the other hosts will bring themselves back to stop it. The fact that we saw dead hosts being taken on stretchers to the labs would indicated that once the body dies they cannot recover motor functions. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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Acrofales
Spain18192 Posts
Anyway, here's the piece that most convinced me the time jump crap is actually real: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-11-09/why-westworlds-multiple-timelines-theory-is-becoming-more-and-more-convincing | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On November 08 2016 06:05 xDaunt wrote: Yeah, I don't get why those two clowns who repair the robots have as much as access as they do. Doesn't make any sense. they dont, the tablet thing the asian guy use seems to me is like an 'illegal' equipment that he got it from somewhere, because when they work on their normal tasks i dont remember seeing them have it? i started to see that tablet when he was messing with the bird which he is not supposed to. and ya, i am getting stronger and stronger vibe on the weak story plot but hbo is trying to make it deep/serious (as they always do haha), i just hope we will at least get a nice and well written season1. Happy to see more of Maeve, i cant stand dolores at all, dolores cant act for anything eventhough i know that they are supposed to be dolls -_- | ||
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
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bdonballer
United States408 Posts
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JazVM
Germany1196 Posts
I mean it was heavily implied that + Show Spoiler + he made a Theresa host after killing her Does that mean that + Show Spoiler + there actually is no "board" supervising his work? What would that mean? | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
I read the theories about Bernard being a host (and even being Arnold in a host), and I totally believed them (especially with the photo of Ford and "Arnold"), but I didn't expect Ford to be so 'evil' and fuck, does that mean that anyone could be a host now? I thought the producers didn't want to have a "who is a cylon?" like BSG. Ford knew about the blood sacrifice, would that mean that the girl from the board is also one? or just that he can listen to everything in the place? | ||
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JazVM
Germany1196 Posts
On November 14 2016 23:01 Yhamm wrote: wow I read the theories about Bernard being a host (and even being Arnold in a host), and I totally believed them (especially with the photo of Ford and "Arnold"), but I didn't expect Ford to be so 'evil' and fuck, does that mean that anyone could be a host now? I thought the producers didn't want to have a "who is a cylon?" like BSG. Ford knew about the blood sacrifice, would that mean that the girl from the board is also one? or just that he can listen to everything in the place? + Show Spoiler + So far there were a lot of hints of what the board actually tries to achieve with Westworld but I always thought that Ford somehow stands in the way of this. What if that isn't the case at all and Ford is actually actively trying to achieve whatever the board wants (and though it doens'T really matter if that board exists or not) and Arnold was actually trying to stop him doing that? It could be that Ford killed Arnold but then later realized that he couldn't do "it" without Arnold. That's why recreated Arnold as a Host. However, host Arnold (Bernard) doesn't have the knowledge that real Arnold did. So his whole game is to recreate a real person Arnold within a Host. Besically recreate a whole personality, soul, mind and everything that distincts humans from AI within a host. Maybe that is what the "maze" ultmately is for. If Dolores and the MiB are actually in Ford's game. I have no clue. BTW: do I have to use spoiler tags in this thread? | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
I assume Theresa will still be a character which is really interesting, as my initial thought was that I was sad her character was gone... but she kind of isn't depending on your perspective. Maybe as someone said above, he has replaced the entire board by hosts 1 by 1. Maeve storyline continues to make 0 sense to me. They either have the worst security protocols ever or Ford just thinks its fun to torture the lab techs. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On November 14 2016 23:01 Yhamm wrote: wow I read the theories about Bernard being a host (and even being Arnold in a host), and I totally believed them (especially with the photo of Ford and "Arnold"), but I didn't expect Ford to be so 'evil' and fuck, does that mean that anyone could be a host now? I thought the producers didn't want to have a "who is a cylon?" like BSG. Ford knew about the blood sacrifice, would that mean that the girl from the board is also one? or just that he can listen to everything in the place? Ford would know about the "blood sacrifice" line from Hector (who was tied to the bed), so the board girl isn't necessarily a host. | ||
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Swisslink
2954 Posts
On November 15 2016 00:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Ugh. I dont mind it from a plot perspective that much, but I was really loving grey area morality Hopkins... I assume Theresa will still be a character which is really interesting, as my initial thought was that I was sad her character was gone... but she kind of isn't depending on your perspective. Maybe as someone said above, he has replaced the entire board by hosts 1 by 1. Maeve storyline continues to make 0 sense to me. They either have the worst security protocols ever or Ford just thinks its fun to torture the lab techs. Well, the Maeve story makes sense if Felix is a host as well. And after all we know... well... that's entirely possible. Assuming Felix is another "Ford-created-Host", Ford controls everything he does and is therefore able to hide pretty much everything what's happening around him. I'm just wondering where they go from here - if Ford is actually behind everything Felix does, all the events surrounding Maeve were initiated by Ford. And this would imply... well... that Ford has some intentions we don't know about yet. | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On November 15 2016 00:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Maeve storyline continues to make 0 sense to me. They either have the worst security protocols ever or Ford just thinks its fun to torture the lab techs. Did you ever see that Star Trek episode where they randomly find some 20th century humans and one of them is a banker who thinks he's the shit and keeps like wandering onto the bridge and just using all the comm devices to page the captain? And he's like "If this isn't allowed, how come it's so easy to do?" And Picard is like "We have discipline." So the optimistic (benevolent UFP) view is that humans have become more advanced, and no longer does every midshipman think its awesome to troll the captain, even though they could get away with it. The pessimistic (tyrannical UFP) view is that the punishments inflicted upon those who disobey are so terrible that no-one dares break the rules. (A version of this is also seen in that show on a paradisical orgy-planet, where there are like 2 cops on the planet, but if they see you step over a fence, they execute you immediately.) My guess is that the Westworld-verse explanation is similar... security is lax because it is deemed unimportant. The fear that Rozencrantz feels is because he has always followed the rules due to an understanding of the consequences of breaking them... despite a relatively low chance of getting caught. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 15 2016 01:45 Swisslink wrote: Well, the Maeve story makes sense if Felix is a host as well. And after all we know... well... that's entirely possible. Assuming Felix is another "Ford-created-Host", Ford controls everything he does and is therefore able to hide pretty much everything what's happening around him. I'm just wondering where they go from here - if Ford is actually behind everything Felix does, all the events surrounding Maeve were initiated by Ford. And this would imply... well... that Ford has some intentions we don't know about yet. That would make sense, I suppose. | ||
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malcram
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On November 15 2016 02:23 malcram wrote: well shit, anthony hopkins is truly terrifying Which is wonderful. It's a grey-morality world, so all the agonists are villains in some sense or another... Ford, the MiB, and presumably someone on the board at some point. Probably Maev and/or Dolores at some point as well... though they've seemed more justifiable in their actions so far. It will be interesting if we get to see one or the other of them do something awful at some point in here. | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On November 15 2016 01:45 Swisslink wrote: Well, the Maeve story makes sense if Felix is a host as well. And after all we know... well... that's entirely possible. Assuming Felix is another "Ford-created-Host", Ford controls everything he does and is therefore able to hide pretty much everything what's happening around him. I'm just wondering where they go from here - if Ford is actually behind everything Felix does, all the events surrounding Maeve were initiated by Ford. And this would imply... well... that Ford has some intentions we don't know about yet. Maeve could also be another board attempt at fucking things up and blaming it on the reveries to push Ford out. We already know Maeve was tinkered with before the 2 maintenance men changed her stats, could be by Ford or by someone else. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
I can't care less about Maeve's storyline at this point. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On November 15 2016 02:23 malcram wrote: well shit, anthony hopkins is truly terrifying I am not sure if you are talking about this character or actor himself. If you are talking about he actor I will assume you watched his Hannibal roles where he was way more terrifying | ||
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