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valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
October 07 2010 07:50 GMT
#4381
There are a lot of Zetsus but none of them are the black one, i wonder why. The "mad" one is special imo
ggaemo fan
aPhanther
Profile Joined April 2010
United States119 Posts
October 07 2010 08:19 GMT
#4382
lol moving island-turtle. reminds me of avatar the last airbender.
eaT_Mi_Lquid
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-07 09:13:37
October 07 2010 09:06 GMT
#4383
On October 02 2010 10:06 teekesselchen wrote:
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On October 02 2010 08:53 DHD wrote:
sorry but naruto is an emo fest

one piece rules the big 3.

I gave it up with one piece after first 10 episodes, really, wtf?
Guess I gotta have to check the current manga, because judging on the first anime episodes therecan't be any person favoring One Piece anywhere.

Naruto definitly is the highest quality ongoing manga and anime (ignoring fillers). Bleach and One Piece are childish compared to it and the depth of characters is hard to reach for a series with so many characters imo. OP definitly doesn't have it.


People have different taste, but your taste is clearly abnormal. The majority of Shounen Manga readers world wide won't even argue about the fact that OP > Naruto. Not only OP is considered better than Naruto outside of Japan, One Piece is even miles ahead of Naruto in rankings in JAPAN. It is one of the best selling Mangas ever ! just read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Piece . I'm currently in Japan, just yesterday i saw some old dude reading the Jump Magazine and One Piece on the train. And when i ask friends if they would know One Piece, even the japanese girls would say that One Piece is good stuff, while Naruto is more mehh -_- . In reality it's actually the opposite than what you have written. It is Naruto which is popular among kids rather than One Piece.

Personally the reason why Naruto is not as good as One Piece is that, One Piece clearly has better story telling and development than Naruto. Naruto (the Manga) is more inconsistent than One Piece and it tries to appeal kids too much by introducing overpowered Sharingan powers. -_- . Hell i hate it.

Just a few points that i hate about Naruto that happened just recently:

1. Kisame, a misterious character, got killed by Raikage and Bee. Only few chapters later the readers found out that it was only a bunshin. -> This was a great plottwist, and i really enjoyed finding out that Kisame was still alive, cuz his "death" was just so lame and since we all didn't knew much about him.

However, just recently, he was killed in the Manga, by a character who hasn't been in the manga for about ~300 chapters (exaggerating) -_- . Not even he was killed, he was killed even in less than 1 chapter, without putting up a fight... . So what was the purpose of Kisame's survival ? Really it was really bad and lame of Kishimoto to write such a boring story line. (Oh wow, I just remembered, why he even had to fight Gai, - it was because Naruto was stuck in some stone walls -_- , and Bee was exhausted - wow what a great excuse and what a nice artificial setup for a fight between the two "rivals" Gai and Kisame)

2. Konans death is another example of bad storyline. I think she just had to die because Kishimoto had to increase some Manga sales. That fight was also an artificial excuse of story development.

When I remember it correctly, Konan said to Naruto that Amagakure will now support him etc. Well this would have implied some role for Konan in the future of the Manga, but hell no, she just died a few chapters later, without doing anything interesting for the story. May be Kishimoto just had forgotten what he had written by himself, but mehhh it's only a shounen Manga anyways, so be it.

Summarizing the story of Naruto it's becoming more and more a sequence of showdowns between some overpowered characters, with a little bit of an excuse of a story.

Compared to One Piece, Naruto is just bad in all departments. One Piece is clearly focusing on story than the battles. But even the battles aren't inferior to Battles in Naruto, because even when One Piece characters lack some overpowered abilities, the battles are making it up, by an interesting background.

Sry to de-rail this thread, I really enjoy reading Naruto, but when someone's stating wrong things i have to clear the facts. *lol*
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eaT_Mi_Lquid
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany509 Posts
October 07 2010 09:10 GMT
#4384
On Topic:

I don't like how Kabuto is acting/becoming some kind of second super villain/mastermind. The last time, he was just an jounin level assistant to Orochimaru, who himself was just a 2nd tier Akatsuki. But still, I'm looking forward to see him in battle ans see what he's capable of.
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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
October 07 2010 09:28 GMT
#4385
On October 07 2010 18:10 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:
On Topic:

I don't like how Kabuto is acting/becoming some kind of second super villain/mastermind. The last time, he was just an jounin level assistant to Orochimaru, who himself was just a 2nd tier Akatsuki. But still, I'm looking forward to see him in battle ans see what he's capable of.

He out played Kakashi. Kabuto was no joke. He was also planted in orochimaru's gang by sasori, but orochimaru broke the mind seal. This is no ordinary kid (and orochimaru was one of the legendary sannin).
eaT_Mi_Lquid
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany509 Posts
October 07 2010 09:42 GMT
#4386
On October 07 2010 18:28 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
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On October 07 2010 18:10 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:
On Topic:

I don't like how Kabuto is acting/becoming some kind of second super villain/mastermind. The last time, he was just an jounin level assistant to Orochimaru, who himself was just a 2nd tier Akatsuki. But still, I'm looking forward to see him in battle ans see what he's capable of.

He out played Kakashi. Kabuto was no joke. He was also planted in orochimaru's gang by sasori, but orochimaru broke the mind seal. This is no ordinary kid (and orochimaru was one of the legendary sannin).


When did he outplayed Kakashi ? Do you mean during the Chu-nin exams ? As far as i know there was only 1 real fight in which Kabuto was involved, this was against Tsunade. He did well but it didn't impressed me so much. I've always had the impression that he's just the "assistant guy" of Orochimaru, and not some super master-mind-villain.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 07 2010 10:41 GMT
#4387
Wait, so Zetsu is part black and part white but only the white part can be reproduced? What does that make him? I'm sure he's not 100% pure human. Sorry only started reading during Naruto and Nagato's/Pains fight in Konoha and I'm to lazy to look up stuff.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
October 07 2010 12:47 GMT
#4388
I wonder if that zetsu-transformed-into-deidara is stuck like that until he's killed. I suppose it's useful to have someone who can fly around but he was definitely amongst the weakest dead akatsuki members.
No I'm never serious.
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
October 07 2010 13:35 GMT
#4389
On October 07 2010 21:47 Nytefish wrote:
I wonder if that zetsu-transformed-into-deidara is stuck like that until he's killed. I suppose it's useful to have someone who can fly around but he was definitely amongst the weakest dead akatsuki members.

That isn't zetsu transformed into deidara. That is the reincarnation of deidara.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
October 07 2010 14:16 GMT
#4390
On October 07 2010 22:35 Scorcher2k wrote:
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On October 07 2010 21:47 Nytefish wrote:
I wonder if that zetsu-transformed-into-deidara is stuck like that until he's killed. I suppose it's useful to have someone who can fly around but he was definitely amongst the weakest dead akatsuki members.

That isn't zetsu transformed into deidara. That is the reincarnation of deidara.


Which means prior to fighting Madara, Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura are going to have to fight through all of Akatsuki again because Zetsu "saved" all their bodies after they died. It'll be like the end of a Mega Man game where you have to marathon through all the bosses again before facing Wily.
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Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
October 07 2010 14:22 GMT
#4391
I wonder what's the use of 100k Zetsus when Madara himself stated that hes not a battle type shinobi. Maybe their goal is to replant the Amazon jungle or w/e....
When in doubt, just drone up.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 07 2010 14:36 GMT
#4392
So we have Orochimaru back?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
October 07 2010 14:51 GMT
#4393
On October 07 2010 23:16 Takkara wrote:
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On October 07 2010 22:35 Scorcher2k wrote:
On October 07 2010 21:47 Nytefish wrote:
I wonder if that zetsu-transformed-into-deidara is stuck like that until he's killed. I suppose it's useful to have someone who can fly around but he was definitely amongst the weakest dead akatsuki members.

That isn't zetsu transformed into deidara. That is the reincarnation of deidara.


Which means prior to fighting Madara, Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura are going to have to fight through all of Akatsuki again because Zetsu "saved" all their bodies after they died. It'll be like the end of a Mega Man game where you have to marathon through all the bosses again before facing Wily.


Oh yeah I forgot about that revival hack. I hope the writer doesn't really think that simply giving characters more screen time, even after they die, counts as developing them.

Anyway it's more likely the reincarnated robots will end up as cannon fodder for the hardly seen side characters.
No I'm never serious.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
October 07 2010 21:40 GMT
#4394
Nah I think the battle with Kabuto/Orochimari is close matched to the 8 tail and Naruto. If you remember really early in the show, remember how the reincarnated can't die? They regenerate body parts. Like even Deidara alone would be hard for them. Especially if its something wtf like he just blows himself up and regenerates. Add Pein/Nagato, Kakuzu, and Sasori. Though I wonder how Pein/Nagato reincarnated works. Because didn't his power come from being able to control the dead. How strong is he without the other paths of pein. And if he does won't they be different peins? Also even with Naruto's new power to control the nine tails. I wonder how he is going to deal with the regeneration. Hardly can be considered cannon fodder. Still curious what was in the last box though. Wonder if it will be revealed when they fight.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
KingRajesh
Profile Joined July 2010
United States927 Posts
October 08 2010 03:54 GMT
#4395
I always thought that when Kabuto did the Mass Impure World Ressurection with all the dead members of Akatsuki that it was more of a demonstration rather than actually tipping his hat to what he would use.

Obviously resurrecting Nagato wouldn't do much, as he won't have the Pain Paths to do his fighting for him.

But Sasori, Kakuzu, Itachi and whoever Kishimoto can thing of will be decent weapons.

Also, I think the last box was Madara Uchiha's brother, cause remember Madara says that his brother gave him his eyes, but it was heard from somewhere else that Madara STOLE them from his brother to save his eyesight. That's the only reason I can see Madara react with such surprise.
"Zerg are the absolute worst thing that can happen to your day" - Dustin Browder
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
October 08 2010 04:04 GMT
#4396
The last box was the 4th hokage
always tired -_-
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
October 08 2010 12:15 GMT
#4397
On October 08 2010 13:04 AppleTart wrote:
The last box was the 4th hokage


can't be, his soul was destroyed
And all is illuminated.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 08 2010 12:29 GMT
#4398
On October 08 2010 21:15 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2010 13:04 AppleTart wrote:
The last box was the 4th hokage


can't be, his soul was destroyed

i think we already had this conersation here in this thread, no need to do it again
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Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
October 08 2010 12:33 GMT
#4399
On October 08 2010 12:54 KingRajesh wrote:
I always thought that when Kabuto did the Mass Impure World Ressurection with all the dead members of Akatsuki that it was more of a demonstration rather than actually tipping his hat to what he would use.

Obviously resurrecting Nagato wouldn't do much, as he won't have the Pain Paths to do his fighting for him.

But Sasori, Kakuzu, Itachi and whoever Kishimoto can thing of will be decent weapons.

Also, I think the last box was Madara Uchiha's brother, cause remember Madara says that his brother gave him his eyes, but it was heard from somewhere else that Madara STOLE them from his brother to save his eyesight. That's the only reason I can see Madara react with such surprise.

Nagato could still use like any elemental type of jutsu. You would think that Sasori and Deidara would both be useless as well seeing as how they shouldn't have been resurrected with their puppets or exploding clay lol. Plot holes galore though, just accept it and look forward to some badass fight scenes when it finally gets animated I guess.
KingRajesh
Profile Joined July 2010
United States927 Posts
October 08 2010 20:29 GMT
#4400
On October 08 2010 21:33 Scorcher2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2010 12:54 KingRajesh wrote:
I always thought that when Kabuto did the Mass Impure World Ressurection with all the dead members of Akatsuki that it was more of a demonstration rather than actually tipping his hat to what he would use.

Obviously resurrecting Nagato wouldn't do much, as he won't have the Pain Paths to do his fighting for him.

But Sasori, Kakuzu, Itachi and whoever Kishimoto can thing of will be decent weapons.

Also, I think the last box was Madara Uchiha's brother, cause remember Madara says that his brother gave him his eyes, but it was heard from somewhere else that Madara STOLE them from his brother to save his eyesight. That's the only reason I can see Madara react with such surprise.

Nagato could still use like any elemental type of jutsu. You would think that Sasori and Deidara would both be useless as well seeing as how they shouldn't have been resurrected with their puppets or exploding clay lol. Plot holes galore though, just accept it and look forward to some badass fight scenes when it finally gets animated I guess.


I thought that while Nagato COULD use any elemental type of Jutsu, we don't know if that ability came from the Rinnegan, which is now inside Madara. So we really don't know if Nagato is worthless. Plus, it didn't look like he could move with all of the chakra spikes... tons of plot holes.

Sasori's body was made into a puppet, so he should still have that. But considering he got beat by SAKURA... I'm thinking he's just gonna job hardcore again.

From what I remember, Deidara didn't actually make the clay, he just brought it along from wherever he kept it and molded it with his Chakra. So that's feasible.

It'll be interesting to see if Kakuzu still has his 4 hearts and if Itachi still has his Mangekyo.
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