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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 11 2015 19:21 GMT
#581
I was being sarcastic.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
June 11 2015 19:22 GMT
#582
On June 12 2015 04:21 IgnE wrote:
I was being sarcastic.


ohhh
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 11 2015 19:22 GMT
#583
I didn't know you were an English major. I'm not sure I can trust you anymore. You're probably into the deconstruction shit.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-11 19:23:30
June 11 2015 19:23 GMT
#584
On June 12 2015 04:22 Jerubaal wrote:
I didn't know you were an English major. I'm not sure I can trust you anymore. You're probably into the deconstruction shit.


dude, this is such a long story I can't even begin. let's just say that I am an english major for precisely three more days of my life. I'm a recovering english major

what's deconstruction?
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 11 2015 19:23 GMT
#585
On June 12 2015 04:21 IgnE wrote:
I was being sarcastic.


Which part.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-11 19:26:18
June 11 2015 19:24 GMT
#586
On June 12 2015 04:23 bookwyrm wrote:

what's deconstruction?


A Modern pathology I can't be bothered with.

Marxism and deconstruction often go hand in hand. You basically go through every piece of culture and look for all the signs of oppression. That's as good as a definition I can give right now.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-11 19:58:47
June 11 2015 19:52 GMT
#587
On June 12 2015 04:24 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 04:23 bookwyrm wrote:

what's deconstruction?


A Modern pathology I can't be bothered with.

Marxism and deconstruction often go hand in hand. You basically go through every piece of culture and look for all the signs of oppression. That's as good as a definition I can give right now.


nah, that's just cultural studies

marxism and deconstruction are actually fairly bitter theoretical antagonists. in the hands of american cultural studies it all turns into vague liberal-progressive mush which is why you have this impression of things. But that's just because nobody actually reads anything these days

for example. the sort of "cultural studies marxists" you are talking about usually couldn't even explain, say, the difference between a crisis of overproduction and a crisis of overaccumulation. So.. not marxists. Marx is actually not primarily concerned with a moral critique. This confuses my professors too and came up in my oral exam - they have a hard time understanding that the nature of marxist critique is not to say "this thing is unjust" but "this this is incoherent on its own terms." That the thing is unjust is just sort of an obvious starting point - saying this might have polemical purposes, but no important theoretical ones
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 11 2015 20:14 GMT
#588
The reason they mush together is because they are all branches from the same tree and they share the same characteristics, including the obsession with narrative and elevating the practical to the level of the moral.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
June 11 2015 20:19 GMT
#589
yeah idk man. but if that's the story you want to tell yourself I guess that's ok with me
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
June 11 2015 21:09 GMT
#590
[image loading]

Pretty interesting so far. I like his style.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 11 2015 22:08 GMT
#591
On June 12 2015 05:14 Jerubaal wrote:
The reason they mush together is because they are all branches from the same tree and they share the same characteristics, including the obsession with narrative and elevating the practical to the level of the moral.



On June 12 2015 05:19 bookwyrm wrote:
yeah idk man. but if that's the story you want to tell yourself I guess that's ok with me


^_~
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-11 22:55:27
June 11 2015 22:49 GMT
#592
you got the joke!

i mean, you complain about people being obsessed with narrative in the same sentence that you tell me a story about a tree. come on, man.

I'm also not really sure what you think the alternative to narrative is. what other trees are growing in this forest you're telling me about
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 12 2015 00:22 GMT
#593
I think he's talking about the Fact Tree bro where you can look up how stuff really works and then read Plato for ethics to overlay on top of all this really working stuff.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
June 12 2015 08:19 GMT
#594
He's also one of the most difficult people to read because most people seem incapable of not projecting their own prejudices when they read him.

still the funniest part imo. But, we have enough marxists here, probably as many as people who like to discuss grimdark, so Jerubaal sounds cool.
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As I Lay Dying. I love Cash.
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
June 12 2015 17:42 GMT
#595
On June 12 2015 04:22 Jerubaal wrote:
I didn't know you were an English major. I'm not sure I can trust you anymore. You're probably into the deconstruction shit.

people with latin signatures cant be trusted
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 12 2015 23:44 GMT
#596
Now reading:

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AndreWiles
Profile Joined May 2015
36 Posts
June 13 2015 06:40 GMT
#597
If ridiculing postmodernism is your thing then 'fashionable nonsense' is a good book to read
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 07:17:59
June 13 2015 07:13 GMT
#598
gonna read some Raymond Chandler again, hell yeah.

As for fashionable nonsense - according to wikipedia noam chomsky, richard dawkins and thomas nagel all like it. if thats not a bad sign i dont know what is.
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AndreWiles
Profile Joined May 2015
36 Posts
June 13 2015 13:05 GMT
#599
On June 13 2015 16:13 Surth wrote:
gonna read some Raymond Chandler again, hell yeah.

As for fashionable nonsense - according to wikipedia noam chomsky, richard dawkins and thomas nagel all like it. if thats not a bad sign i dont know what is.


It's best to judge books by their content.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
June 13 2015 14:03 GMT
#600
On June 13 2015 22:05 AndreWiles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 16:13 Surth wrote:
gonna read some Raymond Chandler again, hell yeah.

As for fashionable nonsense - according to wikipedia noam chomsky, richard dawkins and thomas nagel all like it. if thats not a bad sign i dont know what is.


It's best to judge books by their content.

sir, i pick and choose books by cover :3
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