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I just had to share this manga with everyone. Don't know if many people know about this manga, but I hope you guys can get into it and enjoy it.
Description:
Strange murders are happening in Tokyo. Due to liquid evidence at the scene, the police conclude the attacks are the results of 'eater' type ghouls. College buddies Kaneki and Hide come up with the idea that ghouls are imitating humans so that's why they haven't ever seen one. Little did they know that their theory may very well become reality.
Links:
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/67864/tokyo-ghoul_v1_ch1_by_lazy-ass-scans
http://www.mangareader.net/toukyou-kushu/1
EDIT
There is an Anime now, currently 7 episodes.
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ahhh I was gonna make the thread once twisted hel scans caught up all the missing chapters(only 2 more). The anime is starting in a couple of months too which I'm super pumped for, but I think it will only cover upto gourmet arc.+ Show Spoiler +which is a shame because you don't get to see him go from this puny loser to a badass anti-hero type because of all the torture in the Aogiri arc.
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this series recently got its 1st episode as an anime.
also + Show Spoiler +kaneki going ham in the current manga arc
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The anime looks really interesting so far!
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Hell the manga is what is amazing. A LOT of detail and foreshadowing of what is going on, if you are attentive. It is pretty freaking cool. The anime derps a bit in that regard... Cut out a lot of plot.
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i missed this thread lol the latest chapter is pure sickness. goddamn
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tell me about it, + Show Spoiler + WTF
And Kaneki who was once peaceful .. jsut going ham is orgasmic.
Also, the person who runs aogori tree is + Show Spoiler + is a real head fk
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No no + Show Spoiler [serious spoiler] +there are TWO one eyed owl and they are related (father and son, owner of the cafe used to be the notorious one eyed and then his son 'took his place')
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On August 17 2014 11:17 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2014 10:18 BurningSera wrote:No no + Show Spoiler [serious spoiler] +there are TWO one eyed owl and they are related (father and son, owner of the cafe used to be the notorious one eyed and then his son 'took his place') . They didn't know that it was the 'fake' one until the 'real' one showed up, in which the dude doesn't even look like human anymore. . wait what, when did they reveal that in the manga? I don't recall reading that and I just caught up to date from starting yesterday... and why did that scene take place all of a sudden? kaneki went to see touka then all of a sudden all hell breaks loose with no buildup.
+ Show Spoiler +wait wasn't implied that the real one eyed owl is anteiku owners son? There were three incidents related to one eyed owl. The first is when one eyed made his debut and killed agents got promoted to a rated ghoul. Second time hit some prison raised to SS rating. The third incident had oddly no human deaths just casualties SS ghoul raised to SSS ghoul and nicknamed one eyed owl, where genius shinigami arima fatally wounded owl, who is heavily implied to be anteiku owner. The other two incidents were caused by the son. Whether or not aogiri was created by anteiku owner, well this manga has done many plot twists so there could be some relation or not....
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For those confused, competing scanlator groups are scanning chapters out of order, some did the most recent ones, while others are working in order, while yet some are picking choice chapters they like. The good news is most of the gaps are filled. The bad news is 118-119 121-132 are still missing. Also, hence why the language in the chapters may be inconsistent, some of the translators are real ghetto lol, and different groups may prefer different slang or interpretations of Japanese language.
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This is actually a really interesting manga, never had a gory manga being told from the monsters' perspective. Interesting, interesting.
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Was thinking about picking this up when I heard about the anime, so I started reading, and i... can't... stop... reading whathaveyoudone?!?
I also love the perspective of the story, really raises questions about morality and our place in the world. It's very good.
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I stopped getting into this story after Kaneki got a huge power-up and decided to go do something else instead of staying at the coffee shop. The story of a human/ghoul hybrid trying to integrate himself in both worlds was a really interesting concept to me (like Touka being friends with the cook chick). The story then takes a turn towards a sort of three-way conflict between warring ghouls, investigators and this new Kaneki clan. This is interesting, but not as interesting as the hybrid trying to do make the best of both worlds.
Maybe I burned out because I read 80 chapters in one sitting, just my 2 cents.
Nonetheless, this concept can be found in a lot of mangas actually. Spoilers for Attack on Titan and Claymore
+ Show Spoiler +For example we start Attack on Titan with a human vs titan concept that I find kind of fascinating, but quickly the entire plot shifts towards a three-way conflict between human/titan hybrids, the king and his cronies and the scouts. The titans themselves and the terror they inspire become sideline material and the story becomes a political one. The same thing could be said for claymore, in a loose sense, where it's less the yoma that are scary now, it's rather the awakened beings vs the organization vs the rebel claymores. It's once more a three way conflict that has little to do with the original story. The entire plot comes and twists itself onto something completely new, a sort of political war, which is probably less interesting than humans / ghouls / claymores etc trying to figure out the strange world they've been put in.
if anyone wants to rebound off of that, go ahead
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On August 17 2014 13:14 jinfreaks wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2014 11:17 krndandaman wrote:On August 17 2014 10:18 BurningSera wrote:No no + Show Spoiler [serious spoiler] +there are TWO one eyed owl and they are related (father and son, owner of the cafe used to be the notorious one eyed and then his son 'took his place') . They didn't know that it was the 'fake' one until the 'real' one showed up, in which the dude doesn't even look like human anymore. . wait what, when did they reveal that in the manga? I don't recall reading that and I just caught up to date from starting yesterday... and why did that scene take place all of a sudden? kaneki went to see touka then all of a sudden all hell breaks loose with no buildup. + Show Spoiler +wait wasn't implied that the real one eyed owl is anteiku owners son? There were three incidents related to one eyed owl. The first is when one eyed made his debut and killed agents got promoted to a rated ghoul. Second time hit some prison raised to SS rating. The third incident had oddly no human deaths just casualties SS ghoul raised to SSS ghoul and nicknamed one eyed owl, where genius shinigami arima fatally wounded owl, who is heavily implied to be anteiku owner. The other two incidents were caused by the son. Whether or not aogiri was created by anteiku owner, well this manga has done many plot twists so there could be some relation or not....
That is why i am loving this manga since the beginning. i dont think it was the writer's intention to make a long term ongoing manga but he managed to extend the story really really well. Yes some people might say it is a little 'mainstream' since the beginning chapters but so far it is still interesting and entertaining, alot of 'deep stuffs' etc and excellent gore/fighting scenes with his unique drawing style.
On August 17 2014 11:17 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2014 10:18 BurningSera wrote:No no + Show Spoiler [serious spoiler] +there are TWO one eyed owl and they are related (father and son, owner of the cafe used to be the notorious one eyed and then his son 'took his place') . They didn't know that it was the 'fake' one until the 'real' one showed up, in which the dude doesn't even look like human anymore. . wait what, when did they reveal that in the manga? I don't recall reading that and I just caught up to date from starting yesterday... and why did that scene take place all of a sudden? kaneki went to see touka then all of a sudden all hell breaks loose with no buildup.
I cant remember it clearly but i remember he went to sorta say 'farewell' to his closed ones before he went to the scene (he even fought the connoisseur because he tried to stop him haha). He was struggling really hard whether he should go to help the cafe owner but alas he went on because he won't be able to live the regrets if he didnt do it.
the true sickening part from the latest chapters is that he might + Show Spoiler + before he met the final boss of CCG.
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the sickness is pure in the latest chapter. sick sick sick.
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Since the thread is so deservingly bumped, I would like to point out that every missing chapter has been uploaded.
Happy binge reading to those who, like me, were stuck on chapter 117.
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OH SHIT chapter 142 BIG REVEAL
warning- Spoilers!
at your own peril!
+ Show Spoiler +I CALLED IT, the author of the Black Goat's egg Takatsuki is both the bandage ghoul (Eto) AND the One eyed! No wonder Nico said "the one eyed king does not exist"... HAHAHA it's the one eyed queen! It explains so much about her...and just opens up more questions...
Holy shit Ishida-Sensei, I love you much homo.
This is why I love Tokyo Ghoul/Kushu, if you pay close enough attention, there are enough hints that you can expect what is coming next through the author's ingenuity.
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On September 07 2014 21:16 Reaper9 wrote:OH SHIT chapter 142 BIG REVEAL warning- Spoilers! at your own peril! + Show Spoiler +I CALLED IT, the author of the Black Goat's egg Takatsuki is both the bandage ghoul (Eto) AND the One eyed! No wonder Nico said "the one eyed king does not exist"... HAHAHA it's the one eyed queen! It explains so much about her...and just opens up more questions... Holy shit Ishida-Sensei, I love you much homo. This is why I love Tokyo Ghoul/Kushu, if you pay close enough attention, there are enough hints that you can expect what is coming next through the author's ingenuity.
fuck
seriously wat?
I bow down to Ishida-sensei.
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wait what is that the leaked info?? we just got 141 this week. rofl i just searched for it, some leaked pages or something, nice one.
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...What. Hope there is a sequel. + Show Spoiler + Unless Kaneki really became Kaneki, Arima's suitcase XD
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My guess would be Part2 etc. No way we are getting an ending for this D:
+ Show Spoiler +so kaneki-kun is confirmed to be dead then....
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Yea. I'd have to buy a ticket to Japan if Ishida-Sensei really left us hanging. I've been saving bullets- er I mean fan mail for the authors of Hunter X Hunter and Berserk, and I have to kill- I MEAN, I have to deliver my fan mails personally.
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I think hes going for a part 2.
there is no way he'd just leave us hanging.
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Lol someone else pointed it out on other forums... Arima DID say "No ghoul can go past V14". Manga ends at volume 14...lol Ishida you sneaky bastard XD. FUcKiNG........ GENIUSSSSSSSSSs!
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On September 12 2014 22:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:I think hes going for a part 2. there is no way he'd just leave us hanging.
But why wouldn't he announce the part 2 at the same time as ending part 1 ?
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On September 12 2014 23:25 Liebig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2014 22:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:I think hes going for a part 2. there is no way he'd just leave us hanging. But why wouldn't he announce the part 2 at the same time as ending part 1 ?
we gotta beg, he isn't just gonna give it to us that easy.
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You guys should notice that chapter 72 was called "halfway" 
Respect to Ishida for sticking with his story from start to finish regardless of it becoming much more popular.
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Soooo....he plans his stories out. Unlike some...other...people. Glares. You know the culprits.
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On September 12 2014 23:29 Unleashing wrote:You guys should notice that chapter 72 was called "halfway" Respect to Ishida for sticking with his story from start to finish regardless of it becoming much more popular.
the signs, damn.
I know the culprits all too well.
ALL.
TOO.
WELL.
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G-g-guys, remember how I said I loved Ishida-sensei much homo? HOLY SHIT, chapter 143. I think I've become Ishida-sexual （・□・；）143...what...the...fuck]
Super. Spoilers. + Show Spoiler +Itori the bar hostess is the one who leaked the info to CCG for Anteiku....she's also a fucking clown. (THAT MASK) Uta is the LEADER of the clowns, holy fuck. Someone pieced together the silly gag-4komas beginning letters ...and it says beforehand he was a pierot, or clown, who turns LOL holy shit Ishida-Senpai you hide clues EVERYWHERE).AND ROMA was a spy holy SHIT. She's highly likely a SS-Rank ghoul who broke out of the CCG prison (Ccg mentioned there was a high ranking clown who broke out...oh shit. And it's implied Yoshimura KNEW she was a spy, hence why he didn't mention her when they were "closing up shop". Also, Touka symbol represents the fortune teller of tarots, says she believes Kaneki isn't dead.
Fuck fuck fuck, I need more!
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I'm having a hard time sleeping...sequel?! SEQUEL?! Oh well we'll know in a week or so. Ishida sensei has not posted in 10 days on Twitter apparently, maybe he's preparing for a big reveal? I hope he isn't sick, cause those sniper rifle bullets don't come cheap...forget I said that.
Night everyone, I'll give my scattered brain time to slither back together so I could process the genius and revelations that is Tokyo Ghoul.
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Hot god fucking damnit.
So Kaneki becomes CCG experiment while it's implied that Amon gets Yoshimura's koukahou implanted? The investigator with the sturdy body is DEFINITLY him, him being remade "as kaneki" is... odd but then again, it means that he'd have understood Kaneki, since he'd face the same dilemmas.
But oh boy, let's see if we got sequel stuff:
The chaotic neutral / dont know wtf they want in the clowns
The don't know if they're evil-ish in aogiri.
Kaneki being made into Arima's weapon or an Arima like entity (some people theorize that he's too strong for him to be completely human)
Then there's TOuka and YOmo and what agenda they might have, Yomo has a plan and he might rescue Yoshimura like he did with Rize..
Then there's poor Banjou and Hinami, I feel like they need a hug
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It's funny that the studio that makes the anime is the studio Pierrot. Anyway, I read the whole 140 chapters in 2 days, I really enjoyed it.
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On September 07 2014 21:16 Reaper9 wrote:OH SHIT chapter 142 BIG REVEAL warning- Spoilers! at your own peril! + Show Spoiler +I CALLED IT, the author of the Black Goat's egg Takatsuki is both the bandage ghoul (Eto) AND the One eyed! No wonder Nico said "the one eyed king does not exist"... HAHAHA it's the one eyed queen! It explains so much about her...and just opens up more questions... Holy shit Ishida-Sensei, I love you much homo. This is why I love Tokyo Ghoul/Kushu, if you pay close enough attention, there are enough hints that you can expect what is coming next through the author's ingenuity.
+ Show Spoiler +there was a huge build up for her even from the very first chapter i believe. she's definitely going to become a major character. i think she's going to be a centrifugal character that will explain almost every relationship. while i did suspect an introduction from takatsuki eventually due to the referencing of the books in major situations of the manga IE, convo between rize, him citing chapters to arima, i didn't suspect she was owl or the manager's daughter.
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...Another find... 143
+ Show Spoiler +Itori's wine glass she's drinking has a Ying-Yang, On Touka's shirt bottom right hand corner... "See you next"...LOL Ishida
CALMATO Reaper, CALMATO ｡゜(｀Д´)゜｡
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TONE DOWN REAPER JEEZ!
damn!
all these messages.
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Are you fucking kidding me.
I read everything in one sitting and that's how it ends.
Maaaaaaaaan I want my one day of life back.
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Read a few chapters of this...
What is it with the japs and cannibalism?
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Damn, that ending was way too anticlimactic. There must be a part 2 planned >_>;
+ Show Spoiler +Kaneki really dead and most likely turned into Arima's suitcase. It's Deus ex Machina time!
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On September 14 2014 01:29 Hyperbola wrote:
Read a few chapters of this...
What is it with the japs and cannibalism?
What is with you and racist slang? And keep in mind most real life cannibal cases you can find famous ones from America. So, what is with Americans and cannibalism?
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Is this the last chapter or there is still 2 more to go ?
72 being the half way, 144 chapters sound possible right ?
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is over holyshit wtf?! wtf!? omg he became the box......
not sure how exactly i like this ending really....D: it is decent in all fairness but wtf so sudden???
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on the contrary to popular belief, the buildup, the hidden messages throughout the whole manga, the ambiguity of kaneki's death, it's not over. there have been many manga's that are divided by multiple seasons. IE, Breakers & Breakers the new wave. feng shen ji. i think its a new way for writers & authors to deal with writers block or you end up having authors be like george r martin, hunter x hunter & bleach that need inevitable long hiatuses or the content starts becoming bad.
either that or we're pulling a dexter, that's all folks!
on another note here's a bunch of things i've noticed as messages in the "final chapter" of this ark
- page 1 coincides wtih page 15. where the introduction is "the pursued shadow is no longer there, & as a result no longer in this world, kaneki is then shown to be erased through a report by arima himself. if kaneki is deemed dead, he has the ability to start a new life in pursuit of the real antagonist the clown gang. the guy who everyone thinks is dead, has the last laugh what a twist it could be!
- the use of the word wrong on 2 pages, page 3 & 8 are in bold, suspiciously.
- on page 2 there are 2 statement's the first being "the world is....." which most would conclude the next page was to fill in that statement, on the bottom right the words are "and so we head to the end." where wrong could be attributed to the statement so we come to an end.
- bottom of page 8 is literally a 1 panel look at banjou & that little girl who he was taking care of where it also says WROnG prior to what seems to be a scene where they're supposed to meek kaneki at a certain location or they're given a number to identify a dead body. (Correct me if i'm wrong)
- shinohara's wife on page 13 is shown to be smiling....suggesting either she's going to be an antagonist or has a has an affiliation with kanou in reviving him. the lead-in message before this was "and my salvation is......" the next page is blank.
wrong is also used prior to the scene of vegatative state shinohara.
- arima never finishes off the people he has a hard time against. not to mention the first page....you'll die you know suggest he's on the brink of death or going to live. in manga as far as i'm concerned no one is truly dead until you see their body and is confirmed dead, but naruto's author believes otherwise.
- the ambiguity in the wording of itori's last statement, is kaneki dead? according to my information...large possibility to be wrong.
- dr.kanou being told he has alot of test subjects, behind him are multiple owls being created aka new bosses. the possibility of also making ghoul investigators into ghouls! what a twist!
- most of the other messages already posted, like touka's shirt,
- a possible lead-in to season 2 being that touka is the main protagonist, in attempts to confirm or revive kaneki.
On September 13 2014 18:08 Iplaythings wrote:
Hot god fucking damnit.
So Kaneki becomes CCG experiment while it's implied that Amon gets Yoshimura's koukahou implanted? The investigator with the sturdy body is DEFINITLY him, him being remade "as kaneki" is... odd but then again, it means that he'd have understood Kaneki, since he'd face the same dilemmas.
But oh boy, let's see if we got sequel stuff:
The chaotic neutral / dont know wtf they want in the clowns
The don't know if they're evil-ish in aogiri.
Kaneki being made into Arima's weapon or an Arima like entity (some people theorize that he's too strong for him to be completely human)
Then there's TOuka and YOmo and what agenda they might have, Yomo has a plan and he might rescue Yoshimura like he did with Rize..
Then there's poor Banjou and Hinami, I feel like they need a hug
where exactly do you read these interpretations? i'd like to know....
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On September 14 2014 20:16 saocyn wrote:on the contrary to popular belief, the buildup, the hidden messages throughout the whole manga, the ambiguity of kaneki's death, it's not over. there have been many manga's that are divided by multiple seasons. IE, Breakers & Breakers the new wave. feng shen ji. i think its a new way for writers & authors to deal with writers block or you end up having authors be like george r martin, hunter x hunter & bleach that need inevitable long hiatuses or the content starts becoming bad. either that or we're pulling a dexter, that's all folks! on another note here's a bunch of things i've noticed as messages in the "final chapter" of this ark - page 1 coincides wtih page 15. where the introduction is "the pursued shadow is no longer there, & as a result no longer in this world, kaneki is then shown to be erased through a report by arima himself. if kaneki is deemed dead, he has the ability to start a new life in pursuit of the real antagonist the clown gang. the guy who everyone thinks is dead, has the last laugh what a twist it could be! - the use of the word wrong on 2 pages, page 3 & 8 are in bold, suspiciously. - on page 2 there are 2 statement's the first being "the world is....." which most would conclude the next page was to fill in that statement, on the bottom right the words are "and so we head to the end." where wrong could be attributed to the statement so we come to an end. - bottom of page 8 is literally a 1 panel look at banjou & that little girl who he was taking care of where it also says WROnG prior to what seems to be a scene where they're supposed to meek kaneki at a certain location or they're given a number to identify a dead body. (Correct me if i'm wrong) - shinohara's wife on page 13 is shown to be smiling....suggesting either she's going to be an antagonist or has a has an affiliation with kanou in reviving him. the lead-in message before this was "and my salvation is......" the next page is blank. wrong is also used prior to the scene of vegatative state shinohara. - arima never finishes off the people he has a hard time against. not to mention the first page....you'll die you know suggest he's on the brink of death or going to live. in manga as far as i'm concerned no one is truly dead until you see their body and is confirmed dead, but naruto's author believes otherwise. - the ambiguity in the wording of itori's last statement, is kaneki dead? according to my information...large possibility to be wrong. - dr.kanou being told he has alot of test subjects, behind him are multiple owls being created aka new bosses. the possibility of also making ghoul investigators into ghouls! what a twist! - most of the other messages already posted, like touka's shirt, - a possible lead-in to season 2 being that touka is the main protagonist, in attempts to confirm or revive kaneki. Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 18:08 Iplaythings wrote:
Hot god fucking damnit.
So Kaneki becomes CCG experiment while it's implied that Amon gets Yoshimura's koukahou implanted? The investigator with the sturdy body is DEFINITLY him, him being remade "as kaneki" is... odd but then again, it means that he'd have understood Kaneki, since he'd face the same dilemmas.
But oh boy, let's see if we got sequel stuff:
The chaotic neutral / dont know wtf they want in the clowns
The don't know if they're evil-ish in aogiri.
Kaneki being made into Arima's weapon or an Arima like entity (some people theorize that he's too strong for him to be completely human)
Then there's TOuka and YOmo and what agenda they might have, Yomo has a plan and he might rescue Yoshimura like he did with Rize..
Then there's poor Banjou and Hinami, I feel like they need a hug where exactly do you read these interpretations? i'd like to know....
If the manga is not over ( and I don't believe it is), the next season would most likely be about the ghoul investigators.
As someone smarter than me pointed out on reddit:
"It the second chapter, it tells us that Kafka's (Sen Takatsuki) most famous novel was about a man who turned into an insect: Kaneki becomes the "centipede". And when Sen Takatsuki visited the CCG, she mentioned wanting to write her next story about Ghoul Investigators. This is also supported by Arima saying in chapter 138 that no "Ghoul" (specifically Aneki ) could go farther than V14."
http://www.mangareader.net/toukyou-kushu/139/10
My 2 (borrowed) cents...
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arima states no ghoul past v14 = no ghouls past volume 14 :D
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ishida is a genius at marketing & story telling. he took what the one piece author was doing and took it to a whole new level. if we think about it from a marketing perspective, why would he end a manga prematurely even though it's doing so well? it doesn't make sense, but if we look at it through monetary gain, he builds up so much suspense and interest by abruptly faking an end on a high point only to continue it down the line.
every successful manga always suffers from this eventually. naruto & hajime no ippo, & obviously bleach, are getting heat for running on too long. but these types of breaks allow for the author to continue the story while disallowing the suspense to drop, it's so ingenius.
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Umm, this seems cool, do you guys think I should read the manga first or watch the anime?
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Anime is awful, one of the worst adaptions of a manga i have ever seen, avoid at all costs.
Just read the manga.
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On October 05 2014 18:19 Steveling wrote:
Umm, this seems cool, do you guys think I should read the manga first or watch the anime?
either is fine but dont skip the manga just because you watched the anime.
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Tokyo Ghoul:re confirmed.
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On October 10 2014 17:38 Unleashing wrote:
Tokyo Ghoul:re confirmed.
when?
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On October 10 2014 18:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:when?
Not sure but i watched a raw dump of the new series on /a/
Seems that:
+ Show Spoiler +Kaneki is still alive and working for CCG?
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On October 10 2014 19:16 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 18:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:On October 10 2014 17:38 Unleashing wrote:
Tokyo Ghoul:re confirmed. when? Not sure but i watched a raw dump of the new series on /a/ Seems that: + Show Spoiler +Kaneki is still alive and working for CCG?
+ Show Spoiler +
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Understandable, he's got to build it up from start and establish the universe before rolling out the plot.
But hot god fucking damned I thought I'd had to wait several more months for this :O
Please tell me these chapters are weekly 
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On October 12 2014 01:39 Iplaythings wrote:Understandable, he's got to build it up from start and establish the universe before rolling out the plot. But hot god fucking damned I thought I'd had to wait several more months for this :O Please tell me these chapters are weekly
It's a weekly young jump manga.
Finally something other than ToG and OP to look forward to every week.
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just read it, that dude has to be kaneki. memory manipulated or they cloned another kaneki for sure.
good to have it back really. the eerie and (sick) gore atmosphere from it is pretty unique.
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On October 12 2014 02:36 Diavlo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 01:39 Iplaythings wrote:Understandable, he's got to build it up from start and establish the universe before rolling out the plot. But hot god fucking damned I thought I'd had to wait several more months for this :O Please tell me these chapters are weekly It's a weekly young jump manga. Finally something other than ToG and OP to look forward to every week.
What, I thought this was a seinen manga like old TG.
Oh well, I guess the protagonist who looks like and surely is Kaneki being an investigator and not a ghoul does naturally set a lighter tone.
But fuck yeah for this being weekly, means I'm not gonna have abstinences (only read this chapter 5 times (only))
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On October 12 2014 08:50 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 02:36 Diavlo wrote:On October 12 2014 01:39 Iplaythings wrote:Understandable, he's got to build it up from start and establish the universe before rolling out the plot. But hot god fucking damned I thought I'd had to wait several more months for this :O Please tell me these chapters are weekly It's a weekly young jump manga. Finally something other than ToG and OP to look forward to every week. What, I thought this was a seinen manga like old TG. Oh well, I guess the protagonist who looks like and surely is Kaneki being an investigator and not a ghoul does naturally set a lighter tone. But fuck yeah for this being weekly, means I'm not gonna have abstinences (only read this chapter 5 times (only))
Weekly Young Jump (週刊ヤングジャンプ Shūkan Yangu Janpu?), launched in 1979, is a weekly Japanese magazine that publishes various seinen manga in each issue.
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GODDAMN i need to know what happened + Show Spoiler +!!! It is so apparent by now but what happened?!!
and + Show Spoiler + please now that i think he is still alive.
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maybe this new MC is the literal fusion of kaneki and amon
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His mannerisms are a lot more like Hide's though. Probably a brainwashing template.
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On October 25 2014 11:46 RuskiPanda wrote:
His mannerisms are a lot more like Hide's though. Probably a brainwashing template.
probably because its a better personality to have to deal with the quinkies.
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sick sick sick chapter, goddamn it i want more chapter!!!
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i hope someone scanlates tokyo ghoul: days. turns out it contains a back story for chie hori aka informer/photographer girl.
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Yes make it bigger please, it is almost too predictable when he showed up, surely he is not some ex-GGC that we once knew...
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That is not Amon, that is Nishio Nishiki, look at the kagune, it's a bikaku and is forked like a snake tongue.
Amon woulda become an Ukaku if he received Yoshimuras kagune
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I just spent 2-3 minutes staring at the last picture of Haise.
Nishio,Nishiki, who we assume to be mr. Serpent
Get
Ready
to
get
REKT
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Yeah, this last page is so fucking badass :D
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HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES KANEKI!
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+ Show Spoiler +nishiki = serpent 100% confirmed? both are bikaku user. both have tentacle like kagune. nishiki's gf have a scar. serpent hunting down torso who kills women with scars. now with this chapter we know that both displayed a kicking fighting style.
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SICK!!!!!!!!!!!
Such an exciting chapter!
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You have no IDEA how much I squealed at this chapter XD
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The definition of sickness isnt it lol this chapter
Funny that the dude serves as the first fodder in book1 as well
I like that they immediately switched their priority when he came out rofl so cool.
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Finally Kaneki is back :D
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Yeah also hes touching his chin while telling arima that hes actually happy.
Everyone knows that kaneki lies when he touches his chin that way.
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uhm one question..the kagune of kaneki looks like the one of tsukiyama?! o.o i mean the sword
is it just too obvious or am i mistaken? or is it just the quinque? - and even then it looks painfully like the gourmet one
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On December 02 2014 02:37 amaDeus wrote:
uhm one question..the kagune of kaneki looks like the one of tsukiyama?! o.o i mean the sword
is it just too obvious or am i mistaken? or is it just the quinque? - and even then it looks painfully like the gourmet one
well Rinkaku kagunes are the most flexible of the kagunes from my understanding, he probally shaped it like tsukiyama's sword from subconcious memories of tsukiyama.
I don't like it, cus it looks waay too identical + it doesn't look like his pair of claws that he had before, they look more like those bone-wings kerrigan has right now, other than obvious having more limbs (look at the page where Nishio is impaled @chapter 7, he was impale from 2-3 sides).
I think over thinking kagunes is dangerous the centipede form looked kinda like a bikaku to me as well and Yoshimuras owl has a sword like thing as well on one arm
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 Sit warmly and wait for epic!
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Read it on Sunday, story doesnt develop much except the loli now became some super hot shoujo
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i want the reunion now ._.
chap out
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wait what so the bloody fck is she now????
so teary damn. this love story.
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Kind of a useless chapter this time...
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Kind of funny how him actually being kaneki is apparently the worst kept secret ever.
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chapter 14 out. as expected death flags raised for mutsuki.
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well people should be happy now to see what happened to the leg lol. re:18 delivers just because of the last few pages rofl.
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this one eyed nonsense is ridiculous. i don't think it's as blown up to be as the author intended, the person who currently has it has no known physical abilities. at this point i'd be more inclined to believe it's a side effect or symptom of a person who has had their organs transplanted than for it to mean being in a relation with the one-eyed ghoul / having the powers of one.
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+ Show Spoiler +takizawa was looking down at the fight scene while standing on a ceiling beam on page 14-15 then swooped down without anyone else noticing and plucked the pineapple head like a rodent off the ground on page 19. like a fucking barn owl.
roma probably 1 of the 3 SS ghoul other than sachi that escaped cochlea.
ccg jailer still doing bad things to little animals.
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chapter 22 spoilerino teasers + Show Spoiler +apparently uta donned a arima mask? not sure if it is an actual mask or he changed his face briefly. dafuq.
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I see Hide as the only force influencing Kaneki that's purely altruistic and "pure" in a sense.
Hide is to me the least shady character of them all, him be ing the witch servant has got to have another interpretation
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1000 new characters showed up that i dont even know whether should i give a damn to them at all if they are getting killed in the next chapters
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On March 27 2015 01:12 BurningSera wrote:
1000 new characters showed up that i dont even know whether should i give a damn to them at all if they are getting killed in the next chapters
blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne.
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I can't wait for the Centipede-Pineapple throwdown
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Tokyo ghoul RE 24. Holy shit I didn't think it was possible for Pineapple-Kun to get more crazy. I was wrong.
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it is pretty disgusting lol
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mutsuki's weird monologue seems to hint at having periods at an inopportune time.
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Say my name, put a centipede in your ear and have your insides gently scrambled
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You should, there a plenty of subtle things you pick up on with insight.
Definitely one of the best manga to read again.
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![[image loading]](http://i.gyazo.com/bf244caeb5e79f7074627f849b65d009.png)
According to 2chan,
"おれがたべたおかあちゃんのないぞう"
"俺が食べたお母ちゃんの内臓"
"I ate Mom's intestines."
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Still reading this ? It's becoming really interesting right now
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yeah I'm still reading, just forget to bump the thread
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That we didnt see what the headache haise had was about, is gonna be a plot setter for the enxt chapter :3
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oh man do i love urie in this manga dude is such a badass. everytime i play dota and i witness a core dive 1v5, i think of urie. he's exactly that guy in the manga. he attacks ghouls head on mindlessly and attempts to overpower them with hate and this psychopathic obsession for merit. he literally doesn't even know what he jumps into but comes out victorious, i love how the ghouls always go " DUDE WTF?!"
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holy fuck this chapter is so tense. God fucking Dammit.
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sick chapter. again some characters that i dont even know well are sent away but all is good. chop that doll man
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Good chapter, hang in there Kuramoto! Kanae is now Noro 2.0, seems to have been given an extra kagune, as his previous one was a sword-like koukaku. Meanwhile, Noro 1.0 is being super OP.
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+ Show Spoiler +sooo, anyone believing that Sasa's loss of his hand is gonna be persistent?
I mean the guy regenerated an eye, I dont see him end up as a cripple.
Overall I'm not sure I like this chapter in terms of logic.
Kaneki's fight feels very questionable. I mean Kanae shouldnt be able to do shit to Kaneki in the first place, but after the fight happened entirely off-screen, we see Kaneki totally beaten up. And then he decides that he had enough and just one-shots Kanae without any weapon whatsoever.
I don't mind the quinx fight as much, but Noro is a bit to weak and passive for the hype and Nutcracker seems way to convenient. Also Shirazu's dilemma and him overcoming it should have been more in the focus than Urie and whoever the leading investigator is/was imo, despite the fore-run this came kinda out of nowhere. I hope Noro just does what he did last chapter.
Then again I think the in-fight art is developing greatly and the chapters are really intense atm. I'm really enjoying the arc atm, despite some weird fight outcomes like the last 3.
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Seriously all these characters....i dont recognize who is who whenever they go back to back story.
#52 is a whole lot of wtf to me
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On November 08 2015 08:27 BurningSera wrote:
Seriously all these characters....i dont recognize who is who whenever they go back to back story.
#52 is a whole lot of wtf to me
I thought this chapter was fine as the most relevant characters in the flashbacks appeared in the last two chapters (Matsumae and Kanae). The investigator with the glasses is the guy who ran the auction operation and the rest were just Kanae's family who were only shown in this chapter I think.
One-eyed queen has appeared, wonder how many people are gonna die.
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On November 17 2015 21:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
no more dreams haise.
good bye haise
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its getting harder and harder to read, but damn
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yup, this is some modern art right there, i am never that confused when it comes to reading anything lol
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am i the only one who lost the overview with all the characters? i dont know who's who anymore. not a tiny bit. but i'm too lazy to reread all of :re and its hard to follow with a weekly chapter.
all the characters + different appearence since :re T_T
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On November 23 2015 07:51 amaDeus wrote:
am i the only one who lost the overview with all the characters? i dont know who's who anymore. not a tiny bit. but i'm too lazy to reread all of :re and its hard to follow with a weekly chapter.
all the characters + different appearence since :re T_T
I mostly just google their name. There is a wiki that even has the new look and the old look, because a lot of characters look vastly different.
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The Art is decent, does get difficult to understand sometimes, but the thing that is really setting it back is the scan quality that we end up getting. There are higher quality scans out there.
The character thing is definitely an issue - Ishida expects us to know everything and everyone, even if they had a small cameo in the original Tokyo Ghoul. I had to re-read it to try to understand things a lil more clearly. Plus the foreshadowing. Jeez.
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intense, might be my favorite chapter so far. I get most of what's happening in the fight (which has been like THE hype match since the end of tg) and there's some development for the quinques. Also I like this new antagonist fighting Eto, wonder how long he's gonna stay. I mean he can't be around like this forever, can he?
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Why are wares allowed on TL anyway?
You can just buy these books in English, so...
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On December 01 2015 19:46 Technique wrote:
Why are wares allowed on TL anyway?
You can just buy these books in English, so...
I guess you mean the scan link ?
Well because there is usually months/years between weekly releases, japaneses volume and then translated volume. A volume of weekly releases of 20p is 9 chapters, meaning at least 10 weeks from the 1st chapter release to the volume being avaible in japanese. Then you have to translate it. So yeah, probably years.
And tbf, scanlation is what make manga profitable oversea, would you have known about Tokyo Ghoul if not for weekly scan ? Same with a lot of mangas.
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On December 01 2015 20:11 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 19:46 Technique wrote:
Why are wares allowed on TL anyway?
You can just buy these books in English, so... I guess you mean the scan link ? Well because there is usually months/years between weekly releases, japaneses volume and then translated volume. A volume of weekly releases of 20p is 9 chapters, meaning at least 10 weeks from the 1st chapter release to the volume being avaible in japanese. Then you have to translate it. So yeah, probably years. And tbf, scanlation is what make manga profitable oversea, would you have known about Tokyo Ghoul if not for weekly scan ? Same with a lot of mangas.
Ye of course I would... I go to my local comic shop for anything I read.
I never read these scans, the topic title just caught my eye is all.
Also the wait is not a valid reason really... they don't owe you anything.
And if more people actually bought their mangas (crazy idea right?), the translations would come quicker as well and probably more series would get picked up.
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On December 01 2015 20:18 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 20:11 Faust852 wrote:On December 01 2015 19:46 Technique wrote:
Why are wares allowed on TL anyway?
You can just buy these books in English, so... I guess you mean the scan link ? Well because there is usually months/years between weekly releases, japaneses volume and then translated volume. A volume of weekly releases of 20p is 9 chapters, meaning at least 10 weeks from the 1st chapter release to the volume being avaible in japanese. Then you have to translate it. So yeah, probably years. And tbf, scanlation is what make manga profitable oversea, would you have known about Tokyo Ghoul if not for weekly scan ? Same with a lot of mangas. Ye of course I would... I go to my local comic shop for anything I read. I never read these scans, the topic title just caught my eye is all. Also the wait is not a valid reason really... they don't owe you anything. And if more people actually bought their mangas (crazy idea right?), the translations would come quicker as well and probably more series would get picked up.
Even if the translation would come quicker, it still won't come after months from the first chapter of a volume.
And anecdotic story aren't evidence of anything. It's not because you like to roam in a comic shop in your past time that everyone does. Most of the people just discover manga on scanlation websites, become found of it, and then start their collections by buying physical volume.
Why do you think website like Batoto, Mangareader and other popular scanlation website are still there after years ? It's because it is actually profitable for most publisher.
Another argument in favor of these websites is that it produces a really great community around mangas. Even here, each week there is dozens of posts about the last release of a chapter. These community is what make manga popular outside of japan.
Btw, if you don't read some scan, you miss really good manga that aren't yet translated, like Kingdom.
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On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Even if the translation would come quicker, it still won't come after months from the first chapter of a volume.
And?
I read a lot of French comics, I am months behind their release often as well.
Why would this bother me? Am I going to steal a book and translate it myself so I can read it earlier? No, of course not.
That's effectively what this weird manga community does/demands though.
On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
And anecdotic story aren't evidence of anything. It's not because you like to roam in a comic shop in your past time that everyone does. Most of the people just discover manga on scanlation websites, become found of it, and then start their collections by buying physical volume.
You don't have to go to a comic shop, you can order anything online as well (or even digital versions for some).
And if you bought a tpb you could talk about it as well... just look at the many forums for American/French comics.
Also I bet none of the guys in this topic spent a dime on Tokyo Ghoul tbh...
On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Why do you think website like Batoto, Mangareader and other popular scanlation website are still there after years ? It's because it is actually profitable for most publisher.
Pirating is never easy to stop, that's why.
They tried several times (and still do).
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/11/viz-media-issues-response-to-digital-piracy-arrests/
“Digital piracy is a crime that steals what others have worked so hard to create,” according to the statement. “Viz Media actively supports manga creators and manga fan culture, and is committed to making the highest possible quality content available to a global audience through licensed channels.”
On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Another argument in favor of these websites is that it produces a really great community around mangas. Even here, each week there is dozens of posts about the last release of a chapter. These community is what make manga popular outside of japan.
Btw, if you don't read some scan, you miss really good manga that aren't yet translated, like Kingdom.
That's not an argument to get it for free, there are active communities around American and French comics as well.
Who you know... actually pay for their comics/strips.
Also I have too much to read anyway, manga is on the bottom tier of that.
So I won't really miss anything and it will most likely be translated at some point anyway.
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On December 01 2015 21:38 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Even if the translation would come quicker, it still won't come after months from the first chapter of a volume.
And? I read a lot of French comics, I am months behind their release often as well. Why would this bother me? Am I going to steal a book and translate it myself so I can read it earlier? No, of course not. That's effectively what this weird manga community does/demands though. Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
And anecdotic story aren't evidence of anything. It's not because you like to roam in a comic shop in your past time that everyone does. Most of the people just discover manga on scanlation websites, become found of it, and then start their collections by buying physical volume.
You don't have to go to a comic shop, you can order anything online as well (or even digital versions for some). And if you bought a tpb you could talk about it as well... just look at the many forums for American/French comics. Also I bet none of the guys in this topic spent a dime on Tokyo Ghoul tbh... Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Why do you think website like Batoto, Mangareader and other popular scanlation website are still there after years ? It's because it is actually profitable for most publisher.
Pirating is never easy to stop, that's why. They tried several times (and still do). http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/11/viz-media-issues-response-to-digital-piracy-arrests/“Digital piracy is a crime that steals what others have worked so hard to create,” according to the statement. “Viz Media actively supports manga creators and manga fan culture, and is committed to making the highest possible quality content available to a global audience through licensed channels.”Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Another argument in favor of these websites is that it produces a really great community around mangas. Even here, each week there is dozens of posts about the last release of a chapter. These community is what make manga popular outside of japan.
Btw, if you don't read some scan, you miss really good manga that aren't yet translated, like Kingdom. That's not an argument to get it for free, there are active communities around American and French comics as well. Who you know... actually pay for their comics/strips. Also I have too much to read anyway, manga is on the bottom tier of that. So I won't really miss anything and it will most likely be translated at some point anyway.
Except for the fact that I'd have to import them, because the German manga market is terrible and the translations often are cringeworthy. Manga shops in Germany? Only in major cities and only one or two per city. Suddenly I have to drive an hour to look for a story that I might like, in order to then import it from the English market. The only reason I have ever started becoming interested in the Asian scene in the first place is because I didnt want to wait for the daily badly translated cut-for-children release of Naruto and found it readable (which I prefer over watching anyways) in the internet. The only reason I've ever bought a manga volume is because I knew deathnote from mangafox.
And saying that scanlations aren't profitable for the producers is pretty ridiculous. The scene is by large still a niche product, so any advertisement is good. Because most of the people who would invest money into Japanese comics (at max ~10% of the European population) wouldn't know about it in the first place, if it wasn't pretty popular in the internet.
It's literally the same discussion we have about non-mainstream music on youtube. I know a lot of non-mainstream-label's who upload their entire albums, because they know that that's their best shot at people buying them.
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On December 01 2015 21:38 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Even if the translation would come quicker, it still won't come after months from the first chapter of a volume.
And? I read a lot of French comics, I am months behind their release often as well. Why would this bother me? Am I going to steal a book and translate it myself so I can read it earlier? No, of course not. That's effectively what this weird manga community does/demands though. Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
And anecdotic story aren't evidence of anything. It's not because you like to roam in a comic shop in your past time that everyone does. Most of the people just discover manga on scanlation websites, become found of it, and then start their collections by buying physical volume.
You don't have to go to a comic shop, you can order anything online as well (or even digital versions for some). And if you bought a tpb you could talk about it as well... just look at the many forums for American/French comics. Also I bet none of the guys in this topic spent a dime on Tokyo Ghoul tbh... Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Why do you think website like Batoto, Mangareader and other popular scanlation website are still there after years ? It's because it is actually profitable for most publisher.
Pirating is never easy to stop, that's why. They tried several times (and still do). http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/11/viz-media-issues-response-to-digital-piracy-arrests/“Digital piracy is a crime that steals what others have worked so hard to create,” according to the statement. “Viz Media actively supports manga creators and manga fan culture, and is committed to making the highest possible quality content available to a global audience through licensed channels.”Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Another argument in favor of these websites is that it produces a really great community around mangas. Even here, each week there is dozens of posts about the last release of a chapter. These community is what make manga popular outside of japan.
Btw, if you don't read some scan, you miss really good manga that aren't yet translated, like Kingdom. That's not an argument to get it for free, there are active communities around American and French comics as well. Who you know... actually pay for their comics/strips. Also I have too much to read anyway, manga is on the bottom tier of that. So I won't really miss anything and it will most likely be translated at some point anyway.
Well, your link about piracy is not really related, it is about people selling raw before the official release, meaning people would get ahold of the content, before the people who pay for the Jump weekly. It's more like when Sony Pictures got hacked and some of their movies were available on the internet before it was on theater, not the same thing at all.
Good lcuk finding community of people talking about 1yo chapter release too.
Btw, there isn't much comics scanlation website, like I never found one though. And what did it do ? It made me not readining any comics because I won't bother buying thing if I don't know if it is any good for my taste. While I hold a quite neat manga collection, and all of them I had read before.
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On December 01 2015 23:35 Blackfeather wrote:
Except for the fact that I'd have to import them, because the German manga market is terrible and the translations often are cringeworthy. Manga shops in Germany? Only in major cities and only one or two per city. Suddenly I have to drive an hour to look for a story that I might like, in order to then import it from the English market. The only reason I have ever started becoming interested in the Asian scene in the first place is because I didnt want to wait for the daily badly translated cut-for-children release of Naruto and found it readable (which I prefer over watching anyways) in the internet. The only reason I've ever bought a manga volume is because I knew deathnote from mangafox.
''import'' it as in buy it from one of the many European sites with little to no shipping cost?
Oh the horror... German amazon free shipment? lol
It's just the entitlement... if they don't release translated versions at the exact same time it's released in Japan that's already reason enough to pirate it.
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And saying that scanlations aren't profitable for the producers is pretty ridiculous. The scene is by large still a niche product, so any advertisement is good. Because most of the people who would invest money into Japanese comics (at max ~10% of the European population) wouldn't know about it in the first place, if it wasn't pretty popular in the internet.
Oh the whole piracy is not bad because advertisement...
Advertisement for what exactly? Like this topic? Advertising to go read it for free? :D
There is a reason Japan introduced an anti piracy law last year.
On December 02 2015 01:53 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 21:38 Technique wrote:On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Even if the translation would come quicker, it still won't come after months from the first chapter of a volume.
And? I read a lot of French comics, I am months behind their release often as well. Why would this bother me? Am I going to steal a book and translate it myself so I can read it earlier? No, of course not. That's effectively what this weird manga community does/demands though. On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
And anecdotic story aren't evidence of anything. It's not because you like to roam in a comic shop in your past time that everyone does. Most of the people just discover manga on scanlation websites, become found of it, and then start their collections by buying physical volume.
You don't have to go to a comic shop, you can order anything online as well (or even digital versions for some). And if you bought a tpb you could talk about it as well... just look at the many forums for American/French comics. Also I bet none of the guys in this topic spent a dime on Tokyo Ghoul tbh... On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Why do you think website like Batoto, Mangareader and other popular scanlation website are still there after years ? It's because it is actually profitable for most publisher.
Pirating is never easy to stop, that's why. They tried several times (and still do). http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/11/viz-media-issues-response-to-digital-piracy-arrests/“Digital piracy is a crime that steals what others have worked so hard to create,” according to the statement. “Viz Media actively supports manga creators and manga fan culture, and is committed to making the highest possible quality content available to a global audience through licensed channels.”On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Another argument in favor of these websites is that it produces a really great community around mangas. Even here, each week there is dozens of posts about the last release of a chapter. These community is what make manga popular outside of japan.
Btw, if you don't read some scan, you miss really good manga that aren't yet translated, like Kingdom. That's not an argument to get it for free, there are active communities around American and French comics as well. Who you know... actually pay for their comics/strips. Also I have too much to read anyway, manga is on the bottom tier of that. So I won't really miss anything and it will most likely be translated at some point anyway. Well, your link about piracy is not really related, it is about people selling raw before the official release, meaning people would get ahold of the content, before the people who pay for the Jump weekly. It's more like when Sony Pictures got hacked and some of their movies were available on the internet before it was on theater, not the same thing at all. Good lcuk finding community of people talking about 1yo chapter release too. Btw, there isn't much comics scanlation website, like I never found one though. And what did it do ? It made me not readining any comics because I won't bother buying thing if I don't know if it is any good for my taste. While I hold a quite neat manga collection, and all of them I had read before.
So you are one of those people who also pirates games before buying it?
Pirates movies before buying them?
Pirates music before buying them?
Sure :-).
It's ok, you want it for free, but don't kid yourself.
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The reasons you guys have given for pirating is understandable, but ultimately, they aren't justifiable. Don't pretend that it is justified, just because you have to wait for paid translations, or travel into another city, or want to be part of an online community, or horrors of all horrors pay.
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On December 02 2015 02:24 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 23:35 Blackfeather wrote:
Except for the fact that I'd have to import them, because the German manga market is terrible and the translations often are cringeworthy. Manga shops in Germany? Only in major cities and only one or two per city. Suddenly I have to drive an hour to look for a story that I might like, in order to then import it from the English market. The only reason I have ever started becoming interested in the Asian scene in the first place is because I didnt want to wait for the daily badly translated cut-for-children release of Naruto and found it readable (which I prefer over watching anyways) in the internet. The only reason I've ever bought a manga volume is because I knew deathnote from mangafox.
''import'' it as in buy it from one of the many European sites with little to no shipping cost? Oh the horror... German amazon free shipment? lol It's just the entitlement... if they don't release translated versions at the exact same time it's released in Japan that's already reason enough to pirate it. Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 23:35 Blackfeather wrote:
And saying that scanlations aren't profitable for the producers is pretty ridiculous. The scene is by large still a niche product, so any advertisement is good. Because most of the people who would invest money into Japanese comics (at max ~10% of the European population) wouldn't know about it in the first place, if it wasn't pretty popular in the internet.
Oh the whole piracy is not bad because advertisement... Advertisement for what exactly? Like this topic? Advertising to go read it for free? :D There is a reason Japan introduced an anti piracy law last year. Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 01:53 Faust852 wrote:On December 01 2015 21:38 Technique wrote:On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Even if the translation would come quicker, it still won't come after months from the first chapter of a volume.
And? I read a lot of French comics, I am months behind their release often as well. Why would this bother me? Am I going to steal a book and translate it myself so I can read it earlier? No, of course not. That's effectively what this weird manga community does/demands though. On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
And anecdotic story aren't evidence of anything. It's not because you like to roam in a comic shop in your past time that everyone does. Most of the people just discover manga on scanlation websites, become found of it, and then start their collections by buying physical volume.
You don't have to go to a comic shop, you can order anything online as well (or even digital versions for some). And if you bought a tpb you could talk about it as well... just look at the many forums for American/French comics. Also I bet none of the guys in this topic spent a dime on Tokyo Ghoul tbh... On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Why do you think website like Batoto, Mangareader and other popular scanlation website are still there after years ? It's because it is actually profitable for most publisher.
Pirating is never easy to stop, that's why. They tried several times (and still do). http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/11/viz-media-issues-response-to-digital-piracy-arrests/“Digital piracy is a crime that steals what others have worked so hard to create,” according to the statement. “Viz Media actively supports manga creators and manga fan culture, and is committed to making the highest possible quality content available to a global audience through licensed channels.”On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Another argument in favor of these websites is that it produces a really great community around mangas. Even here, each week there is dozens of posts about the last release of a chapter. These community is what make manga popular outside of japan.
Btw, if you don't read some scan, you miss really good manga that aren't yet translated, like Kingdom. That's not an argument to get it for free, there are active communities around American and French comics as well. Who you know... actually pay for their comics/strips. Also I have too much to read anyway, manga is on the bottom tier of that. So I won't really miss anything and it will most likely be translated at some point anyway. Well, your link about piracy is not really related, it is about people selling raw before the official release, meaning people would get ahold of the content, before the people who pay for the Jump weekly. It's more like when Sony Pictures got hacked and some of their movies were available on the internet before it was on theater, not the same thing at all. Good lcuk finding community of people talking about 1yo chapter release too. Btw, there isn't much comics scanlation website, like I never found one though. And what did it do ? It made me not readining any comics because I won't bother buying thing if I don't know if it is any good for my taste. While I hold a quite neat manga collection, and all of them I had read before. So you are one of those people who also pirates games before buying it? Pirates movies before buying them? Pirates music before buying them? Sure :-). It's ok, you want it for free, but don't kid yourself.
The difference between pirating a movie or music, is that it's absolutly not the same commitment. For the movie, you might be able to access it for free sometimes in the television, or even losing 6-7€ in the theater isn't as bad since it's a one time commitment.
For music, ofc I wouldn't buy an album of an unknown artist before listing it up on SoundCloud or Youtube or whatever. Have you ever roamed in a disk store, and picking a random album for a random band just for the sake of it ? lol.
You can relate it more to series, where some series have the huge success they get only because of pirating. Game of Thrones in huge around the world, but do you really think people in France, or Italy are going to wait for a shitty translation on a shitty time on a shitty television ? Of course not ! They will pirate the episode each week.
Did it affected GoT badly ? Fucking not, on the contrary, it made it so popular the book sells exploded, and the goodies related to it too, even the DVD and Blue Ray sells sore like hell because of it.
I wont commit to buy 80 volumes of One Piece if I don't know what I'm reading before hand. And don't say "just buy the first and make your opinion" because One Piece is fucking shit for like 10 volumes at least. Long manga aren't good enough in the first chapter to be worth the risk.
Now, you could say that you just need to read review on the internet. But guess what, who is doing these review ? Well fuck yeah, people who read the scans, not some random dude who go to his random comic score to buy some random manga clueless about what he is reading.
On December 02 2015 02:32 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
The reasons you guys have given for pirating is understandable, but ultimately, they aren't justifiable. Don't pretend that it is justified, just because you have to wait for paid translations, or travel into another city, or want to be part of an online community, or horrors of all horrors pay.
Fact is, piracy isn't theft, and in more than one occasion it helps the media more than it has a negative effect on it, the main reason being that someone who pirate wouldn't have bought the media in anycase if it wasn't accessible for free.
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On December 02 2015 02:58 Faust852 wrote:
You can relate it more to series, where some series have the huge success they get only because of pirating. Game of Thrones in huge around the world, but do you really think people in France, or Italy are going to wait for a shitty translation on a shitty time on a shitty television ? Of course not ! They will pirate the episode each week.
Did it affected GoT badly ? Fucking not, on the contrary, it made it so popular the book sells exploded, and the goodies related to it too, even the DVD and Blue Ray sells sore like hell because of it.
Game of Thrones probably did get more hyped because of piracy.
But now that hype is being turned into hbo subscriptions all around the world.
If people ignore that and just keep pirating it instead... sure as hell it will hurt them.
Same with the Manga/Anime business.
They are trying to bring it to the world in a legit way and for the English language there are a few good publishers for quite some time already (like Viz Media).
And a bunch of subscription programs (though I'm not into digital, so not sure exactly).
So if people ignore those and just keep on pirating it... yeah it will never grow and these talented manga writers/artists will never make the money they really should be making... because so many people enjoying their product are not actually paying for it.
http://aramajapan.com/news/otaku/anime/japanese-government-launches-manga-anime-guardians-anti-piracy-project/4736/
http://manga-anime-here.com/guardians
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On December 02 2015 02:24 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 23:35 Blackfeather wrote:
Except for the fact that I'd have to import them, because the German manga market is terrible and the translations often are cringeworthy. Manga shops in Germany? Only in major cities and only one or two per city. Suddenly I have to drive an hour to look for a story that I might like, in order to then import it from the English market. The only reason I have ever started becoming interested in the Asian scene in the first place is because I didnt want to wait for the daily badly translated cut-for-children release of Naruto and found it readable (which I prefer over watching anyways) in the internet. The only reason I've ever bought a manga volume is because I knew deathnote from mangafox.
''import'' it as in buy it from one of the many European sites with little to no shipping cost? Oh the horror... German amazon free shipment? lol It's just the entitlement... if they don't release translated versions at the exact same time it's released in Japan that's already reason enough to pirate it.
indeed, I don't have a paypal, so it is a trip to the bank. Not the end of the world, but inconvenient.
As mentioned before, the work is looking for a story I like, not for actually getting it. Pirating minimizes that and ofc the expenses for that. And as stated before, pretty much everyone I know who bought mangas knows them from the internet. Without the entire pirating they wouldn't have bought any.
On December 02 2015 02:24 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 23:35 Blackfeather wrote:
And saying that scanlations aren't profitable for the producers is pretty ridiculous. The scene is by large still a niche product, so any advertisement is good. Because most of the people who would invest money into Japanese comics (at max ~10% of the European population) wouldn't know about it in the first place, if it wasn't pretty popular in the internet.
Oh the whole piracy is not bad because advertisement... Advertisement for what exactly? Like this topic? Advertising to go read it for free? :D There is a reason Japan introduced an anti piracy law last year. Very funny. Obviously for spending money on stuff that's related to the series you like. There are people who like things so much that they spend money to have them in their hands actually. Happened also to a friend of mine who watched the first bleach arc and just bought the mangas (until the entire Aizen thing went out of hand). I'd argue that there are a lot more people like that than than people who blindly buy stuff without knowing if it's good. Which is what you seem to think people should do instead.
The only reason I've ever bought a Naruto game f.e. is because I read it on a site that pirates it. The German anime version is abysmally translated and heavily censored ("Itachi made his clan disappear") and was just barely good enough to get me interested, despite Naruto pre timeskip being one of my favorite series.
On December 02 2015 02:24 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 01:53 Faust852 wrote:On December 01 2015 21:38 Technique wrote:On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Even if the translation would come quicker, it still won't come after months from the first chapter of a volume.
And? I read a lot of French comics, I am months behind their release often as well. Why would this bother me? Am I going to steal a book and translate it myself so I can read it earlier? No, of course not. That's effectively what this weird manga community does/demands though. On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
And anecdotic story aren't evidence of anything. It's not because you like to roam in a comic shop in your past time that everyone does. Most of the people just discover manga on scanlation websites, become found of it, and then start their collections by buying physical volume.
You don't have to go to a comic shop, you can order anything online as well (or even digital versions for some). And if you bought a tpb you could talk about it as well... just look at the many forums for American/French comics. Also I bet none of the guys in this topic spent a dime on Tokyo Ghoul tbh... On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Why do you think website like Batoto, Mangareader and other popular scanlation website are still there after years ? It's because it is actually profitable for most publisher.
Pirating is never easy to stop, that's why. They tried several times (and still do). http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/11/viz-media-issues-response-to-digital-piracy-arrests/“Digital piracy is a crime that steals what others have worked so hard to create,” according to the statement. “Viz Media actively supports manga creators and manga fan culture, and is committed to making the highest possible quality content available to a global audience through licensed channels.”On December 01 2015 20:59 Faust852 wrote:
Another argument in favor of these websites is that it produces a really great community around mangas. Even here, each week there is dozens of posts about the last release of a chapter. These community is what make manga popular outside of japan.
Btw, if you don't read some scan, you miss really good manga that aren't yet translated, like Kingdom. That's not an argument to get it for free, there are active communities around American and French comics as well. Who you know... actually pay for their comics/strips. Also I have too much to read anyway, manga is on the bottom tier of that. So I won't really miss anything and it will most likely be translated at some point anyway. Well, your link about piracy is not really related, it is about people selling raw before the official release, meaning people would get ahold of the content, before the people who pay for the Jump weekly. It's more like when Sony Pictures got hacked and some of their movies were available on the internet before it was on theater, not the same thing at all. Good lcuk finding community of people talking about 1yo chapter release too. Btw, there isn't much comics scanlation website, like I never found one though. And what did it do ? It made me not readining any comics because I won't bother buying thing if I don't know if it is any good for my taste. While I hold a quite neat manga collection, and all of them I had read before. So you are one of those people who also pirates games before buying it? Pirates movies before buying them? Pirates music before buying them? Sure :-). It's ok, you want it for free, but don't kid yourself.
I dont pirate games, because they are mainstream and even the non-mainstream titles get thousands of reviews. I buy them when they are drastically reduced and I'm interested enough thanks the reviews and screenshots and videos. How exactly does this translate to the manga scene? How exactly do mangas get any of that exposure where I'm living?
I rarely ever watch movies. I buy them if I watch them in television (for free) and thought they were great. I seriously think that if I pirated them more, I would buy more, because I would find more I like and the prices are a lot more affordable than f.e. buying manga volumes.
I "pirate" all my music, I don't ever buy anything I haven't listened to (f.e. on youtube). I think I pretty much listened to every single one of my albums before I bought it, and I have a shelf full of albums. My taste is pretty far from the mainstream taste and I am sure I would have given up on music if it wasn't for youtube and pirating.
So yeah I can safely say that in terms of mangas and music, pirating has created a customer where normally there wouldn't be any. I'd call that advertisement.
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On December 02 2015 04:37 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:58 Faust852 wrote:
You can relate it more to series, where some series have the huge success they get only because of pirating. Game of Thrones in huge around the world, but do you really think people in France, or Italy are going to wait for a shitty translation on a shitty time on a shitty television ? Of course not ! They will pirate the episode each week.
Did it affected GoT badly ? Fucking not, on the contrary, it made it so popular the book sells exploded, and the goodies related to it too, even the DVD and Blue Ray sells sore like hell because of it.
Game of Thrones probably did get more hyped because of piracy. But now that hype is being turned into hbo subscriptions all around the world. If people ignore that and just keep pirating it instead... sure as hell it will hurt them. So if people ignore those and just keep on pirating it... yeah it will never grow and these talented manga writers/artists will never make the money they really should be making... because so many people enjoying their product are not actually paying for it.*
How does that hurt them ? Like if they weren't watching before, it helps, but if they continue to watch now it is detrimental? How so, it's not like it prevents other people to access the media.
1000 people know about a media these 1000 people is buying it. Now Piracy arrive and the media become 10x more popular, now :
10000 people know about a media and only 2000 people are buying it, the first 1000 from before, and 1000 other who discovered it via piracy.
The media is getting twice as much revenue and is become 10times more popular, getting it to get more succes in a ear-to-ear kind of way.
Would I be watching Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead or any other show if there wasn't piracy ? Fuck no ! You cant get Netflix or HBO on here, and the translated show on TV is puke-inducting + I can't watch when I decide to.
But without pirating the Walking Dead, I wouldn't have buy the TellTale game or the comics because how would I know ?
Same thing for GoT, I didn't know about it because it's mainly popular in US but less in my region. Now I bought all the novel because I wanted to know more.
Going through a book shop and seeing Tokyo Ghoul ? Well, I open the first pages and all I see is blood, gore and a drawing is too rough for me, I definitly would not have buy it. Now that I read it on the internet ? I have all the first season collection on my shelf, :RE in its way.
You can say that for everything.
So yeah, piracy is almost always a good thing because it spreads the popularity of a media, and people who pirate wouldn't have buy it anyway if they still don't buy it now.
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I think people are making the mistake that people that pirate, only pirate their entire lives. My multitude of novels, books, posters, and toy figurines begs to differ. Most of my exposure to what I read is pirating, but it is through that, that I end up buying their products. Otherwise, indeed there are many that still don't exist in the manga stores around my parts that I can only order online and only would know online. (Borders bookstore has the most mainstream and boring ones to exist...)
On topic, wow, this chapter. Now this is the Tokyo Ghoul we all know.
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Yeah me neither. The fights were a bit easier to understand before re.
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I think this current arc is the most brutal in terms of (non-fodder) character deaths. Although I guess Anteiku had more supposed 'deaths' (Amon, Takizawa, Kaneki, possibly Hide).
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wtf whats going on, #56 is out??
NOM NOM NOM
that fight didnt last that long....
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On December 07 2015 08:51 BurningSera wrote:
wtf whats going on, #56 is out??
NOM NOM NOM
that fight didnt last that long....
Mangastream picked it up so it'll probably come out a lot earlier now.
Guess kaneki's gonna get full kakuja now from that feast.
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Surprised the fight was that one-sided. I guess + Show Spoiler +OEO didnt fight very seriously
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#57, well, at least i can tell whats going in this chapter. bloody heartbreaking last panel...
+ Show Spoiler +hooray for Kaneki is back, he saved Tsukiyama and i wonder if he is going back to revenge on arima.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
I don't know if hes back or hes merged with haise.
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I just started reading this and its so good. Kaneki becomes such a beautiful badass monster.
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#58
Oh god wtf kaneki is so bloody damn cool. woaw.
Black god of death!
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Kaneki, why do you always follow after those that hurt you the most? (His lying gesture from his mother, finger cracking from Yamori, and now he is really taking after Arima.)
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not sure why the hell nobody bumped the thread since last year haha....
and the latest chapter #68, holyshit holyshit *&(&^%$~@@*^$%^
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On March 13 2016 02:56 BurningSera wrote:
not sure why the hell nobody bumped the thread since last year haha....
and the latest chapter #68, holyshit holyshit *&(&^%$~@@*^$%^
where did you read it?
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On March 13 2016 04:14 amaDeus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2016 02:56 BurningSera wrote:
not sure why the hell nobody bumped the thread since last year haha....
and the latest chapter #68, holyshit holyshit *&(&^%$~@@*^$%^ where did you read it?
helveticascans.weebly.com
Can't wait to see how this arc will play out.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
Re: chapter 72
the feels....
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wtf that happens too quick wtf are they actually going to fight again
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May just be the best manga at the moment. Every issue is amazing, and from the looks of thing next issue is gonna be the conclusion of the fight and attention will be shifted to Aogiri Tree Island Hideout Holiday.
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#73: the setting for that guy is simple: God Mode. seriously, why so strong.
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Interesting chapter, not what I expected. Somewhat disappointed that we saw almost nothing of the fight(s). Like all scenes together were about as long as a single chapter.
+ Show Spoiler +
OEO loosing was somewhat predictable, atm every underdog has a 90% winrate in the last few chapters.
On a side note: he's gonna leave her there? Sure, let her regenerate instead of finishing her off <.<
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
holy hell, chapter 82 was ridiculous
+ Show Spoiler +RIP ARIMA U WERE THE BEST BOI
The power level limiter has been removed. Arima was the series' strongest character, and now this upper bound has been killed... So it's time for some powerups and power creep.
+ Show Spoiler +Also, I really really really dislike how shoehorned Furuta is. He's the Ichigo of this series... Way too strong and part of every major plot point. Far too DEM for my liking.
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#83, well, i guess that is a good way to end his life, and the reveal is so good, even though it is not that surprising anymore.
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The feels on that last scene :/
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Apparently being a ghoul makes your skin bulletproof now.
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On July 03 2016 07:30 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Apparently being a ghoul makes your skin bulletproof now.
No it doesn't. If you look at the page 13 you can clearly see the bullet went through his skin into his head. It's just that his regeneration is enough to keep him from dying from a single shot and the bullet is now getting pushed out while he heals.
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3 chapters left?!?!?! nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
i hope it's only for :re and there will be a new series after this...
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Idk, I think the plot development for most chars is pretty done. At least Kaneki's story seems to come to an end and he has somewhat come to terms with his fate.
Also I'm kinda happy when it's through, Re was/is really messy at times. As usual the quality of the writing just plummets when you have to release weekly.
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Hmmm I dont know how I feel about Re after having followed TG since its beginning. I dont know if I am happy that there was a happy ending but regarding the new chapter and its ending, i cannot remember half the characters but I can live with a happy Kaneki.
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inb4 sequel starring his daughter
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