Who here remembers playing Pokemon Red/Blue on their Game Boys when they were younger? Most likely 90% of you reading this post. How young? Well the game was first released in Japan in 1996, followed by a North American release in 1998, then in Europe in 1999. That makes Pokemon Red and Blue 17 years old, older than the original Starcraft by 2 years.
After beating the Elite 4, catching Mewtwo and eventually collecting all of the Pokemon what else was there to do? Well fortunately for us Nintendo followed up with another series of Pokemon with the Gold/Silver generation and the rest is history with the franchise still going strong to this very day with a very popular fan base mostly consisting of Children.
Fast forward to this day, I would imagine that most of us don't really keep up with Pokemon anymore and it remains as a fond memory of our childhood. Let's test your Pokemon knowledge for a second.
What Pokemon is that? Wait, thats a Pokemon? Well at least it probably has a cool sounding name like Charmander right? Nope it's called a Bidoof.
If you still keep up with the series today you are probably disappointed in the latest designs of Pokemon and how much of an idiot Ash Ketchum is in the anime. Well looks like Nintendo has a way to fix that with their new anime EDIT:Special
The special will be based off of the original Pokemon Red/Blue games with our badass protagonist "Red" learning how to finally speak and presumably our Rival being "Green". The new show will feature the original 151 Pokemon with Red choosing Charmander as his starter pokemon.
I can't help but think that series is aimed towards an older audience and the hype and nostalgia level is HUGE. I hope you are all hyped about this as much as I am! What are your thoughts TL?
Also for good spirit I have added a poll.
Poll: What Was Your Starter Pokemon?
Charmander (564)
37%
Squirtle (504)
33%
Bulbasaur (389)
26%
I didn't play Pokemon :( (61)
4%
1518 total votes
Your vote: What Was Your Starter Pokemon?
(Vote): Charmander (Vote): Bulbasaur (Vote): Squirtle (Vote): I didn't play Pokemon :(
EDIT: It looks like it's just a special episode made to commemorate the next season of Pokemon
Seems like a good idea. I've never followed the show after the first two seasons and until a few years ago, only knew the 151 guys. After that...well, they were not as cool.
Well I had the blue edition, my best friend the red one. So he had charmander and I chose squirtle. We battled through all off elementary school with a link cable . Good memories, good times.
without any knowledge i picked bulbasaur, how could i know grass/poison was food for so many enemies??? I did have a breeze in the beginning of the game tho
Holy crap. You're right about the nostalgia level.
The anime was great when you were little and you were just like "YEAH GO ASH BEAT THOSE OTHER POGEYMONS", but a lot of us in the west played the games first and watched the anime after (or alongside). It was still fun to watch, but the fact that every trainer seemed to be severely brain damaged and battles happened completely at random ("Aim for the horn!") spoiled it a bit.
This trailer looks promising though. Everyone's had that moment where they take their invincible Charmander to Pewter City, scratch a Geodude and did... absolutely nothing. You can almost see the words "it's not very effective" when you watch the trailer :D
I remember starting my pokemon blue with charmander. A friend at scool started with Venusaur so when the TCG came out and I got a Venusaur and he pulled a Charizard we swapped them 1 for 1. Score!!
Charmander all day errday. If you pick the ez squirtle and the crappy ass bulbasaur then you were a noob that couldnt beat rock with pidgey sand attack.
Oh man you can not go wrong with Squirtle! That little guy grew on me, however I picked Charmander in my first game. Second game and on though I played Squirtle or the water starter first every time. : ]
Not sure who I should have picked in the poll, my heart says Squirtle but my first starter ever was Charmander and I can never forget that!
Pokemon: The Orgin will have me interested that is for sure, I am assuming it is going to be Japanese release so the only way to watch it here in the states anytime soon would be fan subs?
No love for Bulbasaur? Which 8 years old kid doesnt dig a green dinosaur with an onion on its back? It remains my most favorite pokemon design after like 15 years and 500ish monsters
can't wait to see the game encounters with the legendary pokemon. for the most part the original anime has done a very poor job of portraying them as "legendary".
now that i think about it, they're going to have a lot of chances to portray a lot of the "kid unfriendly" elements in the game such as cubone's mother getting killed by team rocket, gambling, team rocket as a criminal organization, the cinnabar island ruins where mew gave birth to mewtwo. they also have opportunities to address or tease a lot of fan theories and popular observations (erika being a lesbian because she only has women in her gym).
On August 17 2013 19:24 Zeo wrote: It's going to be an OVA/special that will run along with the new X and Y generation series, expect two or three episodes of Origin
On August 17 2013 19:24 Zeo wrote: It's going to be an OVA/special that will run along with the new X and Y generation series, expect two or three episodes of Origin
Stop killing my dreams! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
On August 17 2013 19:20 Gamegene wrote: can't wait to see the game encounters with the legendary pokemon. for the most part the original anime has done a very poor job of portraying them as "legendary".
now that i think about it, they're going to have a lot of chances to portray a lot of the "kid unfriendly" elements in the game such as cubone's mother getting killed by team rocket, gambling, team rocket as a criminal organization, the cinnabar island ruins where mew gave birth to mewtwo. they also have opportunities to address or tease a lot of fan theories and popular observations (erika being a lesbian because she only has women in her gym).
Mewtwo was pretty legendary.
The series went extremely downhill after the orange island arc and the 2nd movie though. Isn't even worth watching now.
Last night I decided to watch an episode from the first season of Pokemon because I couldn't sleep and why not?
It's not that suprising considering it's a show aimed at 10 year olds but fuck Ash is more annoying than I remember. He just ignores everyone's advice, makes terrible decisions and then somehow always 1 shots the other pokemon when he really needs to.
I like the idea of a program aimed more at adults, all the nostalgia but maybe some character development my 20 year old mind can appreciate.
On August 17 2013 19:04 Arceus wrote: No love for Bulbasaur? Which 8 years old kid doesnt dig a green dinosaur with an onion on its back? It remains my most favorite pokemon design after like 15 years and 500ish monsters
me too :D Ivysaur was my fav though, looks so damn handsome Venusaur just looks kinda over the top
I started playing pokemon with pokemon red , squirtle as my starter for my 1st run , but later through out the years I played with all 3 starters , I have to agree , squirtle is ez mode compared to charmander
I honestly stopped watching the anime after ash played in the johto league (did he win that ????) , and I stopped playing the game after the gold version , ok its time to download an emulator and play some pokemon
Can't believe it took them this long to understand what people actually wanted from pokemon, it's almost like they just auto pilot reproduce the same formula over and over with out thinking things through.
Charmander! I think I picked him when I first played it as a kid because I had pokemon red, and he is red... you know I was a kid. I have a lot of very good memories of this game of when I first played it (eventhough I played it a bunch when I was older along other pokemon games).
I remember watching the mewtwo movie many times too, and some episodes of the serie when I catched them on the tv.
On the original games, I usually picked Squirtle, not because he was my favorite, but because Brock's and Misty's gyms were a pain in the ass with Charmander.
On FireRed, however, I picked Charmander. Dat Metal Claw.
On August 17 2013 18:39 Adron wrote: without any knowledge i picked bulbasaur, how could i know grass/poison was food for so many enemies??? I did have a breeze in the beginning of the game tho
btw, looking good! definitely will watch
And then Bulbasaur evolved into Venusaur and became one of the most badass Pokemon ever. Stomp shit left and right. Get's even better in later editions, with sunny day.
I know everyone is glad that there's a pokemon anime that isn't starring Ash, but really, Red is just gonna be like Ash in this series. With the exception of winning the Pokemon League, I assume. Do you see that Charmander scratching the Geodude?
Anyway, I'm not excited about it as much as I should be. Maybe I'm just very, very, VERY disappointed that Leaf isn't in it.
I do hope to see Red kill Green's Raticate, though.
On August 17 2013 22:00 NapkinBox wrote: I know everyone is glad that there's a pokemon anime that isn't starring Ash, but really, Red is just gonna be like Ash in this series. With the exception of winning the Pokemon League, I assume. Do you see that Charmander scratching the Geodude?
Anyway, I'm not excited about it as much as I should be. Maybe I'm just very, very, VERY disappointed that Leaf isn't in it.
I do hope to see Red kill Green's Raticate, though.
Charmander scratching the geodude makes some sense, considering that early in red and blue if you picked charmander you actually don't encounter any pokemon that are good versus ground/rock type pokemon. Bar some bugtypes that can learn grass attacks.
Well Charmander practically turns into a dragon which is why its so appealing. But if you were to ask whats the coolest pokemon it would definitely be gyarados, or magikarp. I love how the weakest pokemon turns into the strongest!
On August 17 2013 22:00 NapkinBox wrote: I know everyone is glad that there's a pokemon anime that isn't starring Ash, but really, Red is just gonna be like Ash in this series. With the exception of winning the Pokemon League, I assume. Do you see that Charmander scratching the Geodude?
Anyway, I'm not excited about it as much as I should be. Maybe I'm just very, very, VERY disappointed that Leaf isn't in it.
I do hope to see Red kill Green's Raticate, though.
Charmander scratching the geodude makes some sense, considering that early in red and blue if you picked charmander you actually don't encounter any pokemon that are good versus ground/rock type pokemon. Bar some bugtypes that can learn grass attacks.
You can catch a Nidoran in the grass patches west of Viridian City, which learns DoubleKick, can be used in the first Gym.
On August 17 2013 22:00 NapkinBox wrote: I know everyone is glad that there's a pokemon anime that isn't starring Ash, but really, Red is just gonna be like Ash in this series. With the exception of winning the Pokemon League, I assume. Do you see that Charmander scratching the Geodude?
Anyway, I'm not excited about it as much as I should be. Maybe I'm just very, very, VERY disappointed that Leaf isn't in it.
I do hope to see Red kill Green's Raticate, though.
Charmander scratching the geodude makes some sense, considering that early in red and blue if you picked charmander you actually don't encounter any pokemon that are good versus ground/rock type pokemon. Bar some bugtypes that can learn grass attacks.
You can catch a Nidoran in the grass patches west of Viridian City, which learns DoubleKick, can be used in the first Gym.
Or you catch Metapod and train it to Butterfree with Confusion and the fight will be easy.
On August 17 2013 22:00 NapkinBox wrote: I know everyone is glad that there's a pokemon anime that isn't starring Ash, but really, Red is just gonna be like Ash in this series. With the exception of winning the Pokemon League, I assume. Do you see that Charmander scratching the Geodude?
Anyway, I'm not excited about it as much as I should be. Maybe I'm just very, very, VERY disappointed that Leaf isn't in it.
I do hope to see Red kill Green's Raticate, though.
Charmander scratching the geodude makes some sense, considering that early in red and blue if you picked charmander you actually don't encounter any pokemon that are good versus ground/rock type pokemon. Bar some bugtypes that can learn grass attacks.
You can catch a Nidoran in the grass patches west of Viridian City, which learns DoubleKick, can be used in the first Gym.
Or you catch Metapod and train it to Butterfree with Confusion and the fight will be easy.
Or you just grind the levels on charmander like a man and beat that pussy Brock head on with the most rage-filled charmander ever.
Omg psyched! I still follow Pokemon today and I think it's still great though I'm not so sure about 6th gen with the mega evolution and stuff =S But we'll see. Vanilla Pokemon is awesome, I remember loving it so much as a kid.
I hope this is genuinely targeted to an older audience.
But it's pokemon. So I expect friendship, filler, and captain-planet level bad guys.
Their "targeting to an older audience" will just be "This is nostalgia. Look at me!" and then trying to reinforce nostalgia. Pretty clear in the trailer that's what they're doing. "Remember scratching Geodude with Charmander? Remember training a butterfree just for that gym, and discarding that useless guy when you caught Snorlax because you thought he was legendary?"
Have Gary Oak legitimately lose his Raticate, and I'll be there.
EDIT: In hindsight I was a little annoyed because I posted in the Gantz thread... ...ok I'm a little curious. It'll be interesting to see how anime Red would go. A person travelling around without much of a supporting cast is great for games, terrible for shows.
used to play Pokemon duels with my friend during classes under the table, in the FIRST ROW, in elementary school. the teacher was constantly pissed at us but i didn't give a fuck cause i had only As anyways lol.
On August 17 2013 22:31 bittman wrote: I hope this is genuinely targeted to an older audience.
But it's pokemon. So I expect friendship, filler, and captain-planet level bad guys.
Their "targeting to an older audience" will just be "This is nostalgia. Look at me!" and then trying to reinforce nostalgia.
Have Gary Oak legitimately lose his Raticate, and I'll be there.
In the few episodes of the original anime Team Rocket is actually threatening, they're really threatening.
And no, I don't mean the three idiots trying to steal some kid's Pikachu.
@OP: Chikorita. Itssocute :3
Well. Maybe the second and third episode. Then they put on kakuna suits and get caught by beedrills. You can literally pinpoint the time they became captain planet villains.
Giovanni was such a let down too btw. No character arc because they wanted to use a bit of it in the movie, and then have team rocket survive. I would genuinely look forward to seeing him as the villain in this new one.
A main character other than Ash will be nice. I don't know why Ash has to be the main character of every journey. It just makes the series so sad. I watched 30 or so episodes of Black and White and it wasn't that bad. It's just so sad that even after 17 years of journeying, Pikachu still loses to a L5 Snivy. If he's gonna hit the reset button every generation, why not just have a new main character? That way there's a slim chance of character development. Ash basically isn't allowed to undergo any meaningful development. It's just killing the series for me.
It'll be nice having characters detached from the anime that are allowed to grow and develop. I wonder if they'll change Green's clothing to a blue colour if they release this in the west.
On August 17 2013 22:41 Purind wrote: A main character other than Ash will be nice. I don't know why Ash has to be the main character of every journey. It just makes the series so sad. I watched 30 or so episodes of Black and White and it wasn't that bad. It's just so sad that even after 17 years of journeying, Pikachu still loses to a L5 Snivy. If he's gonna hit the reset button every generation, why not just have a new main character? That way there's a slim chance of character development. Ash basically isn't allowed to undergo any meaningful development. It's just killing the series for me.
It'll be nice having characters detached from the anime that are allowed to grow and develop. I wonder if they'll change Green's clothing to a blue colour if they release this in the west.
well considering how ash is in a coma and all these adventures are a product of his comatose mind, some irregularities are to be expected
I hope this time the protag will actually kick ass properly. No bullshit friendship letting the pokemon go crap. That pidgeot could have been such a keeper.
Charmader best starter poke ever. Totodile after it. Bulba only good cuz finding a legit good grass is hard.
I picked squirtle. I named him Bob. I taught him headbutt, surf, earthquake and something else. I used no other pokemon except that duck with the stick to cut through shrubs. I literally beat the whole game with a single pokemon. He was some insanely high level when I got to the final four. Bob, brute force Bob ;_; too much nostalgia.
Me and my brother shared one copy of blue version, and we ended up picking Bulbasaur. I think we both eventually wanted to pick him, but it started from one of us wanting Squirtle and the other Charmander.
Pokemon was our only "new" game at the time, and the only game we ever had for our Gameboy for many years. We just didn't understand the concept of buying new games really lol. That game was seriously the best though.
bulbasaur is the best choice. there are a ton of strong water types and aranine/flareon are good fire types. Not enough strong grass types, bulbasaur is the way to go
On August 17 2013 22:41 Purind wrote: A main character other than Ash will be nice. I don't know why Ash has to be the main character of every journey. It just makes the series so sad. I watched 30 or so episodes of Black and White and it wasn't that bad. It's just so sad that even after 17 years of journeying, Pikachu still loses to a L5 Snivy. If he's gonna hit the reset button every generation, why not just have a new main character? That way there's a slim chance of character development. Ash basically isn't allowed to undergo any meaningful development. It's just killing the series for me.
It'll be nice having characters detached from the anime that are allowed to grow and develop. I wonder if they'll change Green's clothing to a blue colour if they release this in the west.
well considering how ash is in a coma and all these adventures are a product of his comatose mind, some irregularities are to be expected
On August 17 2013 22:41 Purind wrote: A main character other than Ash will be nice. I don't know why Ash has to be the main character of every journey. It just makes the series so sad. I watched 30 or so episodes of Black and White and it wasn't that bad. It's just so sad that even after 17 years of journeying, Pikachu still loses to a L5 Snivy. If he's gonna hit the reset button every generation, why not just have a new main character? That way there's a slim chance of character development. Ash basically isn't allowed to undergo any meaningful development. It's just killing the series for me.
It'll be nice having characters detached from the anime that are allowed to grow and develop. I wonder if they'll change Green's clothing to a blue colour if they release this in the west.
well considering how ash is in a coma and all these adventures are a product of his comatose mind, some irregularities are to be expected
Not sure what is with the hate of current gen design pokemon. It's the same guy doing it and they look like something that would come out earlier. There were some dumbass looking pokemon in red/blue and gold/silver, and there are plenty of good ones aswell...so it's basically the same as the current gen right now.
On August 17 2013 22:31 bittman wrote: I hope this is genuinely targeted to an older audience.
But it's pokemon. So I expect friendship, filler, and captain-planet level bad guys.
Their "targeting to an older audience" will just be "This is nostalgia. Look at me!" and then trying to reinforce nostalgia.
Have Gary Oak legitimately lose his Raticate, and I'll be there.
In the few episodes of the original anime Team Rocket is actually threatening, they're really threatening.
And no, I don't mean the three idiots trying to steal some kid's Pikachu.
@OP: Chikorita. Itssocute :3
Well. Maybe the second and third episode. Then they put on kakuna suits and get caught by beedrills. You can literally pinpoint the time they became captain planet villains.
Giovanni was such a let down too btw. No character arc because they wanted to use a bit of it in the movie, and then have team rocket survive. I would genuinely look forward to seeing him as the villain in this new one.
The biggest disappointment was Ash battling Giovanni for the first time ever during the Meloetta arc.
I never played Pokémon Blue or Red, I had Pokemon Yellow. In Yellow, you cant choose between pokemons in the beginning, you just get a Pikachu. But if I had played Blue/Red, I would have chosen Squirtle as my Pokémon, because Turtles are awesome.
On August 17 2013 22:41 Purind wrote: A main character other than Ash will be nice. I don't know why Ash has to be the main character of every journey. It just makes the series so sad. I watched 30 or so episodes of Black and White and it wasn't that bad. It's just so sad that even after 17 years of journeying, Pikachu still loses to a L5 Snivy. If he's gonna hit the reset button every generation, why not just have a new main character? That way there's a slim chance of character development. Ash basically isn't allowed to undergo any meaningful development. It's just killing the series for me.
It'll be nice having characters detached from the anime that are allowed to grow and develop. I wonder if they'll change Green's clothing to a blue colour if they release this in the west.
well considering how ash is in a coma and all these adventures are a product of his comatose mind, some irregularities are to be expected
That was a fantastic read. Of course, it isn't what the writers were actually thinking, but it's a really well-designed theory nonetheless.
The new anime looks cool, but I'm not expecting it to be geared towards an older audience. I mean, what can they really add? Romance? Death? That's not going to happen, it's still a Nintendo product. The best thing they can do is add some more diversity to the antagonists, which I think Yu-Gi-Oh! did a better job of (although I admit I haven't watched a lot of either one).
Squirtle was where it is at, sets you up for a bit of a challenge in Vermillion City and Ceruleon but it is well worth it.
I actually just picked up Pokemon Black a few weeks ago, breaking a longstanding boycott I maintained against anything beyond the original 151. It has been a fun experience and the game is actually pretty enjoyable. I like the changes in being able to unlearn HMs and not having the levels that the badges let you control be so close together. I would grind a pokemon to 19 when I was just about to get a badge to let me control pokemon to level 30.
Any word if this will be on Hulu and updated weekly like Attack on Titan?
On August 17 2013 22:41 Purind wrote: A main character other than Ash will be nice. I don't know why Ash has to be the main character of every journey. It just makes the series so sad. I watched 30 or so episodes of Black and White and it wasn't that bad. It's just so sad that even after 17 years of journeying, Pikachu still loses to a L5 Snivy. If he's gonna hit the reset button every generation, why not just have a new main character? That way there's a slim chance of character development. Ash basically isn't allowed to undergo any meaningful development. It's just killing the series for me.
It'll be nice having characters detached from the anime that are allowed to grow and develop. I wonder if they'll change Green's clothing to a blue colour if they release this in the west.
well considering how ash is in a coma and all these adventures are a product of his comatose mind, some irregularities are to be expected
When those promo trailers first came out to promote BW2:
my friend and I thought about how epic it would be to have a total reboot and have a mature and modern anime series aimed at nostalgia tripping all the then-8-year-olds-now-23-year-olds who grew up with it.
. . . . it's working.
And Squirtle first of course. No other starter could counter the Rival's starter. Blastoise can use ice beam and blizzard - super effective vs grass! (Team balance? What's that?)
This looks super sick I always hoped they will make an anime based off of the pokemon manga which was so much better than the anime. This is close enough as both are based off the games and not with Ash.
I obviously went charmander. It was awful vs brock and misty, which made it more challenging. Even while 10 years old I had standards in video games. I remember getting all 150 pokemons together with a friend, who had the blue version, and it was damn cool loading a game with full pokedex.
I sometimes play an emulated 10x speed version of pokemon emerald on my phone, but man there's just so many new pokemons, I have no idea what half of them are and what most spells do.
Charmander! or Pikachu if yellow. Charmander is boss, first 2 gyms are hard you have to train you own pokemon. Once you get passed those charmander or charmelion is a solid pocket monster.. You 1 shot all the grass pokemon and do decent damage to other types.
On August 18 2013 00:37 Voyage wrote: Protagonist better be getting a Nidoking in his team. Also needs some episodes about catching Tauros.
20 episodes dedicated to trying to catch a Tauros and a Chansey in the safari zone.
that would be epic XD Safari zone was such an awesome idea!
I played pokemon yellow to start so I always have pikachu around lol. I also played both red and blue so ya, both charmander and squirtle XD Not sure if I ever chose bulbasaur. It was never appealing to my young self except venusaur was a boss lol. Excited for this even if its OVA!
Bulbasaur all the way, Bulba SAAAAAAR By the way dont u guys think its about time that they release a Pokemon 1st person? where u walk around in the forest and battle everything u meet in real time?! EPIC
The concept sounds great; an opportunity to revisit our memories of R/B/Y without the story of Ash and all the baggage associated with it. If it is a more mature approach towards the games, I would love to see a few episodes.
And my first starter was Squirtle. I have some obsession with Water-type starters, I just find them the best.
On August 18 2013 01:46 Shellshock1122 wrote: Bulbasaur for me because my other friends got the game first and took charmander and squirtle and I wanted to have something different
Hipsterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. PPP
Yo, I hope they do an episode for Ponyta. hells yeah Ponyta.
On August 17 2013 22:41 Purind wrote: A main character other than Ash will be nice. I don't know why Ash has to be the main character of every journey. It just makes the series so sad. I watched 30 or so episodes of Black and White and it wasn't that bad. It's just so sad that even after 17 years of journeying, Pikachu still loses to a L5 Snivy. If he's gonna hit the reset button every generation, why not just have a new main character? That way there's a slim chance of character development. Ash basically isn't allowed to undergo any meaningful development. It's just killing the series for me.
It'll be nice having characters detached from the anime that are allowed to grow and develop. I wonder if they'll change Green's clothing to a blue colour if they release this in the west.
well considering how ash is in a coma and all these adventures are a product of his comatose mind, some irregularities are to be expected
Oh the nostalgia :D ...first episodes of the anime were good, after a while, you get a feeling the show is stuck in a loop (just the scenery and characters change). also, first pokemon bulbasaur ftw.
Charmander all the way bitches. I remember evolving to charmeleon before I fight brock and charizard before I fight Misty. The most boring part of the game for me but I had to go through it because who doesn't want a badass fire breathing flying dragon dinosaur.
I used to mash B so my Charmeleon would never evolve. Totally worth it. Hopefully it'll be a cool OVA, I'll check it out once its in a form I can understand (I'm probably very alone in this, but dubs please)
I missed Red/Blue. My first starter was Chikorita, who proved to be utterly useless and got raped by the bird-type gym. Every. Fucking. Time. After I came back from my massive rage quit, I went Cyndaquil, who was such a badass I used that motherfucker to solo my rival at every fight. Typlosion is still my all-time favorite Pokemon.
where's the option for disliking all the starters so I just dumped it? I got through brock with butterfree and rattata.
Raticate makes the game easy mode until like...level 30 or so. Hyper fang> everything under level 30
also most people grow out of pokemon but I never did, and its not as clear cut as old ones > new ones. Silver/gold is probably the best one, followed by black/white.
Diamond/pearl and sapphire/ruby are really bad. I'd throw red/blue somewhere in the middle along with leafgreen/fire red and heart gold/ soul silver
Charmander for life bro. I used bulbasaur once but other than the fact that he leveled up faster it seemed, he wasn't nearly as much fun as fucking Charzard.
Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
Def charmander for life! 1st few gyms may be hard, but I remember having two centipes from the forest which both carried my team through the initial gym battles.
Then I recall meeting my 1st jigglypuff! Had to catch that! I was dumb enough to give it a moonstone and wigglytuffs aren't what I expected -_-.
On August 17 2013 22:41 Purind wrote: A main character other than Ash will be nice. I don't know why Ash has to be the main character of every journey. It just makes the series so sad. I watched 30 or so episodes of Black and White and it wasn't that bad. It's just so sad that even after 17 years of journeying, Pikachu still loses to a L5 Snivy. If he's gonna hit the reset button every generation, why not just have a new main character? That way there's a slim chance of character development. Ash basically isn't allowed to undergo any meaningful development. It's just killing the series for me.
It'll be nice having characters detached from the anime that are allowed to grow and develop. I wonder if they'll change Green's clothing to a blue colour if they release this in the west.
well considering how ash is in a coma and all these adventures are a product of his comatose mind, some irregularities are to be expected
Ash isn't in a coma. He saw a Ho-Oh in the first episode which granted him eternal happiness. Ash is happy during his pokemon journeys, and thus Ho-Oh granted him eternal happiness by allowing him to enjoy his journey forever. The moment Ash develops, he is one step closer to ending his journey, thus ending his eternal happiness. Ash hitting the reset button at every region allows him to eternally stay in his journey
From DPPt pokedex:
It possesses seven-colored wings. It is said that those who see Ho-Oh are promised an eternal happiness.
My first pokemon was Squirtle. I remember my Blastoise was like level 75 and all my other pokemon were around 30s except for a Clefable in the 50s :D I also remember not being able to get into saffron city for a couple days because I had not Idea about the rooftop where you could buy water -.-;
I remember when charizard finally started listening to ash, and me running out of the apartment building into the projects behind it and telling all the kids that charizard finally listens to ash. lol or was it charmeleon?
oh yeah, i always picked the fire type in any pokemon games.
On August 18 2013 06:20 talktativetim wrote: I remember when charizard finally started listening to ash, and me running out of the apartment building into the projects behind it and telling all the kids that charizard finally listens to ash. lol or was it charmeleon?
oh yeah, i always picked the fire type in any pokemon games.
It was Charizard. Scenes of him not listening to Ash were hilarious. It even happened in a gym battle or 2.
Fuck it, I'm using my emulator today because of this. Only question is whether I want Blue or Yellow... (beaten Red x1000 on my GameBoy, same with Yellow, but Yellow has pikachu...!)
I hope that it's good, but it hopefully doesn't get as shitty as the current Pokemon series which I haven't seen for years, but assume that it's just as shit as it became after the first few season.
charmander first always. charmander was for those who played the long game. the first 4 gyms were tough but charizard was the best fire pokemon by far. with water you had the magikarp evolution and for leafy pokemon you had vileplume.
On August 18 2013 06:20 talktativetim wrote: I remember when charizard finally started listening to ash, and me running out of the apartment building into the projects behind it and telling all the kids that charizard finally listens to ash. lol or was it charmeleon?
oh yeah, i always picked the fire type in any pokemon games.
It was Charizard. Scenes of him not listening to Ash were hilarious. It even happened in a gym battle or 2.
Didn't Charizard lose Ash a match in the Pokemon League 'cause it didn't want to listen? Or am I bringing some manga lore into this?
But honestly, Ash's Charizard is his most OP Pokemon. Goes toe-to-toe with legendaries.
On August 18 2013 06:20 talktativetim wrote: I remember when charizard finally started listening to ash, and me running out of the apartment building into the projects behind it and telling all the kids that charizard finally listens to ash. lol or was it charmeleon?
oh yeah, i always picked the fire type in any pokemon games.
It was Charizard. Scenes of him not listening to Ash were hilarious. It even happened in a gym battle or 2.
Didn't Charizard lose Ash a match in the Pokemon League 'cause it didn't want to listen? Or am I bringing some manga lore into this?
But honestly, Ash's Charizard is his most OP Pokemon. Goes toe-to-toe with legendaries.
That was end of season 1. Ash lost in the pokemon league semifinals because Charizard refused to fight.
I hate the direction the current series went. I would love to watch a reboot like that, I even recently read the manga because I am still somewhat interested in pokemon but the current show is terrible. I wouldn't even mind them doing the second gen too because its story has lots of ties to the first one, but after that my interest is going to fall fast, especially if they keep it going like the current series by making the main character become weaker.
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
Whether or not "generic" rats are good pokemon design is based entirely on personal opinions. That said, first generations of anything capture the true spirit of whatever anime/cartoon/show, no? "Pokemon" in the latest generations look like something from mech genre animes and designs have been recycled to a degenerative point. That's what happens when you start beating the horse for money - which is why people who played with first or second generation pokemon have little affection for new generations because they don't feel the same anymore.
On August 18 2013 06:20 talktativetim wrote: I remember when charizard finally started listening to ash, and me running out of the apartment building into the projects behind it and telling all the kids that charizard finally listens to ash. lol or was it charmeleon?
oh yeah, i always picked the fire type in any pokemon games.
It was Charizard. Scenes of him not listening to Ash were hilarious. It even happened in a gym battle or 2.
Didn't Charizard lose Ash a match in the Pokemon League 'cause it didn't want to listen? Or am I bringing some manga lore into this?
But honestly, Ash's Charizard is his most OP Pokemon. Goes toe-to-toe with legendaries.
You're reminding me of the movie now.
That was such a good movie. Who didn't cry when Ash died? (lol spoiler). And Charizard was so kickass there too.
Sorry for misleading you all I was just as disappointed as you all are when I found out it was just a TV special . Hopefully Nintendo will maybe change their minds if it's a big success :O
On August 18 2013 06:20 talktativetim wrote: I remember when charizard finally started listening to ash, and me running out of the apartment building into the projects behind it and telling all the kids that charizard finally listens to ash. lol or was it charmeleon?
oh yeah, i always picked the fire type in any pokemon games.
It was Charizard. Scenes of him not listening to Ash were hilarious. It even happened in a gym battle or 2.
Didn't Charizard lose Ash a match in the Pokemon League 'cause it didn't want to listen? Or am I bringing some manga lore into this?
But honestly, Ash's Charizard is his most OP Pokemon. Goes toe-to-toe with legendaries.
You're reminding me of the movie now.
That was such a good movie. Who didn't cry when Ash died? (lol spoiler). And Charizard was so kickass there too.
didnt ash's charizard suck compared to charizard trained in the wild (at that mountain range were just charizards fight carizards) Thats why ash doesnt have it anymore, stayed there to train. Did he get it back later? (it think this was in the silver/gold anime season)
On August 18 2013 10:00 Kaoriyu wrote: Sorry for misleading you all I was just as disappointed as you all are when I found out it was just a TV special . Hopefully Nintendo will maybe change their minds if it's a big success :O
Even if its just a TV special how long does the ep go for? You can see him getting a pat from Lance (probably when hes wins) than the battle with green/blue (has a blastoise, but green clothes) so shouldnt it go up to at least the pokemon league, and also all the badges O_o seems like a lot of stuff to cover in one ep
On August 18 2013 06:20 talktativetim wrote: I remember when charizard finally started listening to ash, and me running out of the apartment building into the projects behind it and telling all the kids that charizard finally listens to ash. lol or was it charmeleon?
oh yeah, i always picked the fire type in any pokemon games.
It was Charizard. Scenes of him not listening to Ash were hilarious. It even happened in a gym battle or 2.
Didn't Charizard lose Ash a match in the Pokemon League 'cause it didn't want to listen? Or am I bringing some manga lore into this?
But honestly, Ash's Charizard is his most OP Pokemon. Goes toe-to-toe with legendaries.
You're reminding me of the movie now.
That was such a good movie. Who didn't cry when Ash died? (lol spoiler). And Charizard was so kickass there too.
didnt ash's charizard suck compared to charizard trained in the wild (at that mountain range were just charizards fight carizards) Thats why ash doesnt have it anymore, stayed there to train. Did he get it back later? (it think this was in the silver/gold anime season)
On August 18 2013 10:00 Kaoriyu wrote: Sorry for misleading you all I was just as disappointed as you all are when I found out it was just a TV special . Hopefully Nintendo will maybe change their minds if it's a big success :O
Even if its just a TV special how long does the ep go for? You can see him getting a pat from Lance (probably when hes wins) than the battle with green/blue (has a blastoise, but green clothes) so shouldnt it go up to at least the pokemon league, and also all the badges O_o seems like a lot of stuff to cover in one ep
Imagine if it's just flashbacks followed by 'well that was fun' :/
What? You got me all hyped up. That series would be awesome. The pokemon series with Ash is hard to enjoy for many reasons. It so extremely focused for younger viewers. Also Ash sucks.
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
Whether or not "generic" rats are good pokemon design is based entirely on personal opinions. That said, first generations of anything capture the true spirit of whatever anime/cartoon/show, no? "Pokemon" in the latest generations look like something from mech genre animes and designs have been recycled to a degenerative point. That's what happens when you start beating the horse for money - which is why people who played with first or second generation pokemon have little affection for new generations because they don't feel the same anymore.
The thing is that there have been some horrible pokemon designs and some good ones for every generation. Are you really telling me that pokemon like grimer ( a pile of grime) or seel ( a seal) is better than the new pokemon? And speaking of something out of a mecha anime Have you look at things like steelix from gen 2 or magneton from gen1? And a snake pokemon names ekans? Every generation has its ups and downs and over used themes. I played the originals on release and continue to like the new ones. Its nostalgia that causes these opinions not actual factual basis. Gen1 is probably the worst in regards to generic designs, but we played it as little kids for the most part, so its harder for us to take a hard look at it. Milking a formula that works is what happens in every genre from every developer, and game freak is better than a lot of the repeat offenders out there. And when ever the developers try something new that is nothing like the older games, the same people who bash them for "recycling " pokemon designs jump on them because it doesn't feel like the old games. You don't have to play the new ones, but stop holding gen 1 on a pedestal while ignoring its own blatant flaws.
On August 18 2013 06:20 talktativetim wrote: I remember when charizard finally started listening to ash, and me running out of the apartment building into the projects behind it and telling all the kids that charizard finally listens to ash. lol or was it charmeleon?
oh yeah, i always picked the fire type in any pokemon games.
It was Charizard. Scenes of him not listening to Ash were hilarious. It even happened in a gym battle or 2.
Didn't Charizard lose Ash a match in the Pokemon League 'cause it didn't want to listen? Or am I bringing some manga lore into this?
But honestly, Ash's Charizard is his most OP Pokemon. Goes toe-to-toe with legendaries.
You're reminding me of the movie now.
That was such a good movie. Who didn't cry when Ash died? (lol spoiler). And Charizard was so kickass there too.
didnt ash's charizard suck compared to charizard trained in the wild (at that mountain range were just charizards fight carizards) Thats why ash doesnt have it anymore, stayed there to train. Did he get it back later? (it think this was in the silver/gold anime season)
On August 18 2013 10:00 Kaoriyu wrote: Sorry for misleading you all I was just as disappointed as you all are when I found out it was just a TV special . Hopefully Nintendo will maybe change their minds if it's a big success :O
Even if its just a TV special how long does the ep go for? You can see him getting a pat from Lance (probably when hes wins) than the battle with green/blue (has a blastoise, but green clothes) so shouldnt it go up to at least the pokemon league, and also all the badges O_o seems like a lot of stuff to cover in one ep
Ash currently has his charizard in the unova series.
Honestly I kinda expect this to be bad due to gen 1's story / characters (Gary oak excluded) and pokemon design but hopefully I'm proven wrong (Also Squirtle is the best starter in gen 1 unless you use the glitch to skip Brock)
On August 18 2013 06:20 talktativetim wrote: I remember when charizard finally started listening to ash, and me running out of the apartment building into the projects behind it and telling all the kids that charizard finally listens to ash. lol or was it charmeleon?
oh yeah, i always picked the fire type in any pokemon games.
It was Charizard. Scenes of him not listening to Ash were hilarious. It even happened in a gym battle or 2.
Didn't Charizard lose Ash a match in the Pokemon League 'cause it didn't want to listen? Or am I bringing some manga lore into this?
But honestly, Ash's Charizard is his most OP Pokemon. Goes toe-to-toe with legendaries.
You're reminding me of the movie now.
That was such a good movie. Who didn't cry when Ash died? (lol spoiler). And Charizard was so kickass there too.
didnt ash's charizard suck compared to charizard trained in the wild (at that mountain range were just charizards fight carizards) Thats why ash doesnt have it anymore, stayed there to train. Did he get it back later? (it think this was in the silver/gold anime season)
On August 18 2013 10:00 Kaoriyu wrote: Sorry for misleading you all I was just as disappointed as you all are when I found out it was just a TV special . Hopefully Nintendo will maybe change their minds if it's a big success :O
Even if its just a TV special how long does the ep go for? You can see him getting a pat from Lance (probably when hes wins) than the battle with green/blue (has a blastoise, but green clothes) so shouldnt it go up to at least the pokemon league, and also all the badges O_o seems like a lot of stuff to cover in one ep
Ash currently has his charizard in the unova series.
Honestly I kinda expect this to be bad due to gen 1's story / characters (Gary oak excluded) and pokemon design but hopefully I'm proven wrong (Also Squirtle is the best starter in gen 1 unless you use the glitch to skip Brock)
I wish that they could have gary saying 'I'm Gary Motherfucking Oak'
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
Whether or not "generic" rats are good pokemon design is based entirely on personal opinions. That said, first generations of anything capture the true spirit of whatever anime/cartoon/show, no? "Pokemon" in the latest generations look like something from mech genre animes and designs have been recycled to a degenerative point. That's what happens when you start beating the horse for money - which is why people who played with first or second generation pokemon have little affection for new generations because they don't feel the same anymore.
The thing is that there have been some horrible pokemon designs and some good ones for every generation. Are you really telling me that pokemon like grimer ( a pile of grime) or seel ( a seal) is better than the new pokemon? And speaking of something out of a mecha anime Have you look at things like steelix from gen 2 or magneton from gen1? And a snake pokemon names ekans? Every generation has its ups and downs and over used themes. I played the originals on release and continue to like the new ones. Its nostalgia that causes these opinions not actual factual basis. Gen1 is probably the worst in regards to generic designs, but we played it as little kids for the most part, so its harder for us to take a hard look at it. Milking a formula that works is what happens in every genre from every developer, and game freak is better than a lot of the repeat offenders out there. And when ever the developers try something new that is nothing like the older games, the same people who bash them for "recycling " pokemon designs jump on them because it doesn't feel like the old games. You don't have to play the new ones, but stop holding gen 1 on a pedestal while ignoring its own blatant flaws.
Gen 1 and 2 had the least cringeworthy designs imho. Yes, a lot of them were flat-out unimaginative, but at the same time, they looked fairly natural for the most part because they were so unimaginative. Many of the Pokemon in the successive generations (especially after Gen 2) look ridiculous.
And I also second the rec for Pokemon Special. The art is surprisingly nice on the eyes, and Red is awesome.
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
hmm I dunno if I agree. While yes, its true that every generation can have good and bad designs, the first generation is what the game developers were aiming for. To them at the time, they had no clue how well the idea would catch on, if it will be liked etc... in other words, they poured everything they had and more into making pokemon the best it can be so that people can like them and buy the games etc... Once pokemon caught on fire, they started releasing more generations. It's true that some pokemon like seel and voltorb etc... are hardly imaginative and are rather simple by design since they resemble real world animals/objects etc... but I don't think that deters away from the experience. To me at least, it seems that once pokemon was popular, they released more generations for the sake of milking the franchise but again, my opinion.
I've played both first and second generation and loved all six editions(even though red/blue and gold/silver were similar). I found that the simplicity in some pokemon was welcomed while in other cases, it was nice seeing some rather complex pokemon. I tried the later versions to see what it was like but after playing some of them for a while, I just couldn't get over how much it changed. Part of that is probably nostalgia and having grown up from those days. Another part could be that I couldn't get used to the changes and heck, even with the second generation, it already felt like the franchise was getting jam packed with pokemon. Would've preferred if they kept the 251 pokemon(or original 151) and made more regions, varied up the story etc... and possibly add a bit more pokemon but nowhere near the amount that is currently in the game in the versions that are out.
Anyways, I'm still excited for this lol. I do hope that this OVA lasts for several episodes at an hour per episode or so so that we get more time to enjoy our past time games : )
I will say that I loved the Red Rescue Team game. I'm playing it atm on my Game Boy. Very interesting storyline and it gives lots of time for leveling up Pokemon as well as challenging you and making you almost have to use pokemon of a specific type (Water versus a new gym filled with Gravelers instead of Electric).
On August 18 2013 11:07 VayneAuthority wrote: I dont know why you would want charizard, there aren't any good fire pokemon in red/blue version. It's one of, if not the weakest, types in first gen
How in the blue hell you forgot Bug and Ghost. Bugs best move is like pin missiles and ghost only has 1 move which is lick.
On August 18 2013 11:07 VayneAuthority wrote: I dont know why you would want charizard, there aren't any good fire pokemon in red/blue version. It's one of, if not the weakest, types in first gen
How in the blue hell you forgot Bug and Ghost. Bugs best move is like pin missiles and ghost only has 1 move which is lick.
?? gengar is one of the best pokemon from red/blue, you don't need a ghost type move when you are that fast and have that high of special attack.
Bug I completely forgot about, but they do have parasect who has access to spore. but yea bug is worse than fire
On August 18 2013 11:07 VayneAuthority wrote: I dont know why you would want charizard, there aren't any good fire pokemon in red/blue version. It's one of, if not the weakest, types in first gen
"I dont know why you would want charizard", cause it was a dragon, a fire dragon and we were like 8 lol
On August 18 2013 11:07 VayneAuthority wrote: I dont know why you would want charizard, there aren't any good fire pokemon in red/blue version. It's one of, if not the weakest, types in first gen
Because Charizard is badass and you don't need to concoct the perfect lineup to beat the game. Most people just play with the Pokemon they like, not necessarily the most optimal ones.
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
Whether or not "generic" rats are good pokemon design is based entirely on personal opinions. That said, first generations of anything capture the true spirit of whatever anime/cartoon/show, no? "Pokemon" in the latest generations look like something from mech genre animes and designs have been recycled to a degenerative point. That's what happens when you start beating the horse for money - which is why people who played with first or second generation pokemon have little affection for new generations because they don't feel the same anymore.
The thing is that there have been some horrible pokemon designs and some good ones for every generation. Are you really telling me that pokemon like grimer ( a pile of grime) or seel ( a seal) is better than the new pokemon? And speaking of something out of a mecha anime Have you look at things like steelix from gen 2 or magneton from gen1? And a snake pokemon names ekans? Every generation has its ups and downs and over used themes. I played the originals on release and continue to like the new ones. Its nostalgia that causes these opinions not actual factual basis. Gen1 is probably the worst in regards to generic designs, but we played it as little kids for the most part, so its harder for us to take a hard look at it. Milking a formula that works is what happens in every genre from every developer, and game freak is better than a lot of the repeat offenders out there. And when ever the developers try something new that is nothing like the older games, the same people who bash them for "recycling " pokemon designs jump on them because it doesn't feel like the old games. You don't have to play the new ones, but stop holding gen 1 on a pedestal while ignoring its own blatant flaws.
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
I will respectfully disagree with you, Jaaaaasper. What you see as unimaginative design I see as simplicity, and simplicity is the basis of beauty in my eyes. It's because there is little to no imagination in Seel or Raticate, for example, that it doesn't look childish. This is in contrast to some of the designs of Pokemon in future generations that have too much creativity.
I put generation 1 on a pedestal not because of nostalgia but because of its content compared to future generations. There are episodes like Bye Bye Butterfree and Snow Way Out that really moved me emotionally, episodes like the Tower of Terror and Pokemon Scent-sation that made me laugh really hard, and episodes like Electric Shock Showdown that really got me fired up. Also, the Gym leaders were really unique and memorable; there was Sabrina, who was about as abnormal as one could get, and Brock, who had to give up his dream of becoming a Pokemon Breeder to care for his brothers and sisters, and all the others. In general, there are just a lot more funny/crazy/emotional moments in generation 1 compared to future generations. I mean, really, having to dress up as a girl to get into the Celadon Gym? There's nothing as wild as that that I can recall. Oh, and I almost forgot about Team Rocket. Jessie and James actually acted like the badass, menacing criminals they were in season 1 (i.e. Pokemon Emergency, Bridge Bicycle Gang, etc). They weren't just there to get blasted off every episode in the same stale, boring manner in future generations. I am quite curious: What blatant flaws do you think season 1 and the original 151 Pokemon have?
On topic with the original post, I'd be interested to see this Pokemon Special. However, I personally don't like the idea of making a special (with new characters) based on the Red/Blue game, which itself was based on season 1. If the game developers wanted to make something for their audiences in the late 90s, I think they should've brought back Ash, Misty, and Brock in their 20s. I'd want to see them go on another adventure to save the world from Team Rocket somehow... But anyways, let's see how well the game developers do with this.
When I first played Blue version I picked Bulbasaur because that was the Pokemon my best friend had when I saw him playing the game. Nowadays whenever I play, I pick Charmander because it makes the gym battles more challenging... and also because Charizard is the coolest.
I chose Squirtle because I saw the anime before playing the game, and the Squirtle Squad were always some of my favorite Pokemon from the show, so I had to choose him!
This is probably gonna be better than most of the other anime series this fall season...after cheering due to the death of Oreimo, this made my day twice over.
Also the studio combo behind this is great (Production I.G. + Xebec), so no worries about production values AT ALL. Mmm-mmm.
On August 18 2013 13:06 vult wrote: I chose Squirtle because I saw the anime before playing the game, and the Squirtle Squad were always some of my favorite Pokemon from the show, so I had to choose him!
While I really really like gen 1, it is a broken game with silly mechanics
1 xacc + higher speed makes ohko moves always hit (pinnacle mechanic in speedrunning however) you can't attack when you wakeup from sleep same with wrap (super frustrating in speedruns) special attack and special defense rolled into 1 makes special moves way too strong Hyper Beam kill means no recharge! (I always found this one fun though hahaha~) Random stat reduction/boost gives other effects (Kinesis reduces their accuracy by one stage AND increases their speed by one stage for no apparent reason) not to mention Stupid AI among others make this game really exploitable
I've been playing the other pokemon games and enjoying them as well I think the newer ds games look very nice Although pokemon became more about friendship instead about battling your pokemon to the death to become greatest trainer of them all (hue)
I do have to give it the nostalgia factor that I like it so much, and is in fact why I started to speed run yellow :3
Huge changes came along with Gen3 and onwards that I at first didn't like cause it was different (personality types for one) but I realize it was a nice addition when I accepted it. Inclusion of weather and reinstated night/day (gen2 and gen4+) is great touch as well
And the split between physical and special damage on all moves was a huge change that made many pokemon much better
I play Pokemon competitively. I will enjoy the special when it comes out but will be too focused watching the new Fairy type play into the meta (only created to nerf Dragon) along with Mega Evolutions. Still waiting for info on any new breeding mechanics and how the new mini games will play a role in the training of IV and EV. I am a breeder and have played in some VGCs in the video game and TCG.
On August 18 2013 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bulbasaur was my favorite starter, really. Actually in the first three generations, my favorite starters were all grass types.
Bulbasaur was the best starter in red/blue. Countered both rock and water, the first two gyms. And if i recall correctly, did well vs lightening, the third gym, as well.
On August 18 2013 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bulbasaur was my favorite starter, really. Actually in the first three generations, my favorite starters were all grass types.
Bulbasaur was the best starter in red/blue. Countered both rock and water, the first two gyms. And if i recall correctly, did well vs lightening, the third gym, as well.
Venasaur is also arguably the most useful Gen 1 starter in competitive battling as well.
On August 18 2013 13:09 ymir233 wrote: This is probably gonna be better than most of the other anime series this fall season...after cheering due to the death of Oreimo, this made my day twice over.
Also the studio combo behind this is great (Production I.G. + Xebec), so no worries about production values AT ALL. Mmm-mmm.
This is gonna be a special (according to MAL). Not a series.
It's true that bug as a type is now a terrible typing for both attack and defence.
But that doesn't take into account how bug was . . . well, it was bugged in RBY.
Beedrill was one of the most broken pokemon because it could use Twinneedle and be super effective against poison pokemon and it ignored resistances.
For example, zubat the poison/flying bat we all love to hate should have 4x resistance to twinneedle since both of its types resist poison.
But nope! Twinneedle hits it for super-effective damage while still being resisted by pidgey.
****
I guess the point of the story is that RBY was awesome because it was a broken exploitable mess of a game with missingnos, level 164 aerodactyls, dittos that could perma-morph into mews and the old man outside of celadon gym who got censored in the reboots because he was just there to ogle women.
Sure Generation V has a deep, complex and refined (and even competitive) combat system with a developed metagame, but really, how can that even compare to?
On August 18 2013 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bulbasaur was my favorite starter, really. Actually in the first three generations, my favorite starters were all grass types.
On August 18 2013 11:07 VayneAuthority wrote: I dont know why you would want charizard, there aren't any good fire pokemon in red/blue version. It's one of, if not the weakest, types in first gen
"I dont know why you would want charizard", cause it was a dragon, a fire dragon and we were like 8 lol
On August 18 2013 13:28 JSH wrote: While I really really like gen 1, it is a broken game with silly mechanics
1 xacc + higher speed makes ohko moves always hit (pinnacle mechanic in speedrunning however) you can't attack when you wakeup from sleep same with wrap (super frustrating in speedruns) special attack and special defense rolled into 1 makes special moves way too strong Hyper Beam kill means no recharge! (I always found this one fun though hahaha~) Random stat reduction/boost gives other effects (Kinesis reduces their accuracy by one stage AND increases their speed by one stage for no apparent reason) not to mention Stupid AI among others make this game really exploitable
I've been playing the other pokemon games and enjoying them as well I think the newer ds games look very nice Although pokemon became more about friendship instead about battling your pokemon to the death to become greatest trainer of them all (hue)
I do have to give it the nostalgia factor that I like it so much, and is in fact why I started to speed run yellow :3
Huge changes came along with Gen3 and onwards that I at first didn't like cause it was different (personality types for one) but I realize it was a nice addition when I accepted it. Inclusion of weather and reinstated night/day (gen2 and gen4+) is great touch as well
And the split between physical and special damage on all moves was a huge change that made many pokemon much better
Also how retardly good psychic pokemon were. Me and my friends decided to run through blue again for the nostalgia. My 6/7 year old self didn't even know what special did but running through it again I could see how unbalanced the game was. I went through most of the game 1 shotting literally everything with a Kadabra, except for other good psychic pokemon, until I got bored and decided to use some different pokemon.
On August 18 2013 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bulbasaur was my favorite starter, really. Actually in the first three generations, my favorite starters were all grass types.
On August 18 2013 11:07 VayneAuthority wrote: I dont know why you would want charizard, there aren't any good fire pokemon in red/blue version. It's one of, if not the weakest, types in first gen
"I dont know why you would want charizard", cause it was a dragon, a fire dragon and we were like 8 lol
On August 18 2013 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bulbasaur was my favorite starter, really. Actually in the first three generations, my favorite starters were all grass types.
Bulbasaur was the best starter in red/blue. Countered both rock and water, the first two gyms. And if i recall correctly, did well vs lightening, the third gym, as well.
Unfortunately, Bulbasaur is slow vs the trainers immediately before and after Brock's gym rending him overall slower than Squirtle
On August 18 2013 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bulbasaur was my favorite starter, really. Actually in the first three generations, my favorite starters were all grass types.
Bulbasaur was the best starter in red/blue. Countered both rock and water, the first two gyms. And if i recall correctly, did well vs lightening, the third gym, as well.
Unfortunately, Bulbasaur is slow vs the trainers immediately before and after Brock's gym rending him overall slower than Squirtle
i remember it was pretty hard to get past brock and misty, i just grinded to lvl 36 to get charizard and tried to one hit her stuff with slash to get past her, and everything after that was mostly a breeze
On August 18 2013 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bulbasaur was my favorite starter, really. Actually in the first three generations, my favorite starters were all grass types.
Bulbasaur was the best starter in red/blue. Countered both rock and water, the first two gyms. And if i recall correctly, did well vs lightening, the third gym, as well.
Unfortunately, Bulbasaur is slow vs the trainers immediately before and after Brock's gym rending him overall slower than Squirtle
Real men use Nidoran
(and by nidoran I mean a level 100 Nidoking in Viridian forest )
On August 18 2013 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bulbasaur was my favorite starter, really. Actually in the first three generations, my favorite starters were all grass types.
Bulbasaur was the best starter in red/blue. Countered both rock and water, the first two gyms. And if i recall correctly, did well vs lightening, the third gym, as well.
Unfortunately, Bulbasaur is slow vs the trainers immediately before and after Brock's gym rending him overall slower than Squirtle
i remember it was pretty hard to get past brock and misty, i just grinded to lvl 36 to get charizard and tried to one hit her stuff with slash to get past her, and everything after that was mostly a breeze
Haha reminds me off how my brother beat the fourth gym (Grass) solely with a 40+ Blastoise. Man those where the days :D.
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
Whether or not "generic" rats are good pokemon design is based entirely on personal opinions. That said, first generations of anything capture the true spirit of whatever anime/cartoon/show, no? "Pokemon" in the latest generations look like something from mech genre animes and designs have been recycled to a degenerative point. That's what happens when you start beating the horse for money - which is why people who played with first or second generation pokemon have little affection for new generations because they don't feel the same anymore.
The thing is that there have been some horrible pokemon designs and some good ones for every generation. Are you really telling me that pokemon like grimer ( a pile of grime) or seel ( a seal) is better than the new pokemon? And speaking of something out of a mecha anime Have you look at things like steelix from gen 2 or magneton from gen1? And a snake pokemon names ekans? Every generation has its ups and downs and over used themes. I played the originals on release and continue to like the new ones. Its nostalgia that causes these opinions not actual factual basis. Gen1 is probably the worst in regards to generic designs, but we played it as little kids for the most part, so its harder for us to take a hard look at it. Milking a formula that works is what happens in every genre from every developer, and game freak is better than a lot of the repeat offenders out there. And when ever the developers try something new that is nothing like the older games, the same people who bash them for "recycling " pokemon designs jump on them because it doesn't feel like the old games. You don't have to play the new ones, but stop holding gen 1 on a pedestal while ignoring its own blatant flaws.
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
I will respectfully disagree with you, Jaaaaasper. What you see as unimaginative design I see as simplicity, and simplicity is the basis of beauty in my eyes. It's because there is little to no imagination in Seel or Raticate, for example, that it doesn't look childish. This is in contrast to some of the designs of Pokemon in future generations that have too much creativity.
I think another problem is that there are only so many ways you can do a generic bird/rat/mouse/dog pokemon, and Gamefreak's decision to make new generics every generation has resulted in an overflow of such generic early game "filler" pokemon, with nothing to distinguish them except nostalgia.
So Raticate is remembered (and hated, because fuck trying to run away and seeing "Can't escape!") but nobody gives a shit about Furret/Linoone/Bibarrel without Moody/Watchog. The latter probably have more merit from a pure design point of view, but we're bored of it already.
On August 18 2013 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bulbasaur was my favorite starter, really. Actually in the first three generations, my favorite starters were all grass types.
Bulbasaur was the best starter in red/blue. Countered both rock and water, the first two gyms. And if i recall correctly, did well vs lightening, the third gym, as well.
Unfortunately, Bulbasaur is slow vs the trainers immediately before and after Brock's gym rending him overall slower than Squirtle
Real men use Nidoran
(and by nidoran I mean a level 100 Nidoking in Viridian forest )
On August 18 2013 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bulbasaur was my favorite starter, really. Actually in the first three generations, my favorite starters were all grass types.
Bulbasaur was the best starter in red/blue. Countered both rock and water, the first two gyms. And if i recall correctly, did well vs lightening, the third gym, as well.
Unfortunately, Bulbasaur is slow vs the trainers immediately before and after Brock's gym rending him overall slower than Squirtle
Real men use Nidoran
(and by nidoran I mean a level 100 Nidoking in Viridian forest )
Gengar in Mt Moon more reliable ;o
Its like 10 minutes into the game why not go for it. Probably reset less over Squirtles as well
Haha was just playing my Red Rescue Team game. All of a sudden I was surprised to see 'Mew used Transform!' appear as I entered a new floor. I was disappointed to find Mew easy to defeat and Mew didn't join my rescue team.
Later I fainted in a monster house surrounding the stairs... on floor 66B >.<
On August 18 2013 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bulbasaur was my favorite starter, really. Actually in the first three generations, my favorite starters were all grass types.
Bulbasaur was the best starter in red/blue. Countered both rock and water, the first two gyms. And if i recall correctly, did well vs lightening, the third gym, as well.
Unfortunately, Bulbasaur is slow vs the trainers immediately before and after Brock's gym rending him overall slower than Squirtle
i remember it was pretty hard to get past brock and misty, i just grinded to lvl 36 to get charizard and tried to one hit her stuff with slash to get past her, and everything after that was mostly a breeze
Misty was a bitch with Charmeleon, I would pretty much revert back to my usual tactic of sand attacking her with my Pidgeotto until she couldn't hit anything or try to get as much out of a Pikachu as I could (aka Thunder Wave + Thundershock).
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
Whether or not "generic" rats are good pokemon design is based entirely on personal opinions. That said, first generations of anything capture the true spirit of whatever anime/cartoon/show, no? "Pokemon" in the latest generations look like something from mech genre animes and designs have been recycled to a degenerative point. That's what happens when you start beating the horse for money - which is why people who played with first or second generation pokemon have little affection for new generations because they don't feel the same anymore.
The thing is that there have been some horrible pokemon designs and some good ones for every generation. Are you really telling me that pokemon like grimer ( a pile of grime) or seel ( a seal) is better than the new pokemon? And speaking of something out of a mecha anime Have you look at things like steelix from gen 2 or magneton from gen1? And a snake pokemon names ekans? Every generation has its ups and downs and over used themes. I played the originals on release and continue to like the new ones. Its nostalgia that causes these opinions not actual factual basis. Gen1 is probably the worst in regards to generic designs, but we played it as little kids for the most part, so its harder for us to take a hard look at it. Milking a formula that works is what happens in every genre from every developer, and game freak is better than a lot of the repeat offenders out there. And when ever the developers try something new that is nothing like the older games, the same people who bash them for "recycling " pokemon designs jump on them because it doesn't feel like the old games. You don't have to play the new ones, but stop holding gen 1 on a pedestal while ignoring its own blatant flaws.
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
I will respectfully disagree with you, Jaaaaasper. What you see as unimaginative design I see as simplicity, and simplicity is the basis of beauty in my eyes. It's because there is little to no imagination in Seel or Raticate, for example, that it doesn't look childish. This is in contrast to some of the designs of Pokemon in future generations that have too much creativity.
I think another problem is that there are only so many ways you can do a generic bird/rat/mouse/dog pokemon, and Gamefreak's decision to make new generics every generation has resulted in an overflow of such generic early game "filler" pokemon, with nothing to distinguish them except nostalgia.
So Raticate is remembered (and hated, because fuck trying to run away and seeing "Can't escape!") but nobody gives a shit about Furret/Linoone/Bibarrel without Moody/Watchog. The latter probably have more merit from a pure design point of view, but we're bored of it already.
I have not played the pokemon games since red/blue. What is different about the new generation of pokemon games? (in terms of pokemon and combat/etc)
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
Whether or not "generic" rats are good pokemon design is based entirely on personal opinions. That said, first generations of anything capture the true spirit of whatever anime/cartoon/show, no? "Pokemon" in the latest generations look like something from mech genre animes and designs have been recycled to a degenerative point. That's what happens when you start beating the horse for money - which is why people who played with first or second generation pokemon have little affection for new generations because they don't feel the same anymore.
The thing is that there have been some horrible pokemon designs and some good ones for every generation. Are you really telling me that pokemon like grimer ( a pile of grime) or seel ( a seal) is better than the new pokemon? And speaking of something out of a mecha anime Have you look at things like steelix from gen 2 or magneton from gen1? And a snake pokemon names ekans? Every generation has its ups and downs and over used themes. I played the originals on release and continue to like the new ones. Its nostalgia that causes these opinions not actual factual basis. Gen1 is probably the worst in regards to generic designs, but we played it as little kids for the most part, so its harder for us to take a hard look at it. Milking a formula that works is what happens in every genre from every developer, and game freak is better than a lot of the repeat offenders out there. And when ever the developers try something new that is nothing like the older games, the same people who bash them for "recycling " pokemon designs jump on them because it doesn't feel like the old games. You don't have to play the new ones, but stop holding gen 1 on a pedestal while ignoring its own blatant flaws.
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
I will respectfully disagree with you, Jaaaaasper. What you see as unimaginative design I see as simplicity, and simplicity is the basis of beauty in my eyes. It's because there is little to no imagination in Seel or Raticate, for example, that it doesn't look childish. This is in contrast to some of the designs of Pokemon in future generations that have too much creativity.
I think another problem is that there are only so many ways you can do a generic bird/rat/mouse/dog pokemon, and Gamefreak's decision to make new generics every generation has resulted in an overflow of such generic early game "filler" pokemon, with nothing to distinguish them except nostalgia.
So Raticate is remembered (and hated, because fuck trying to run away and seeing "Can't escape!") but nobody gives a shit about Furret/Linoone/Bibarrel without Moody/Watchog. The latter probably have more merit from a pure design point of view, but we're bored of it already.
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
Whether or not "generic" rats are good pokemon design is based entirely on personal opinions. That said, first generations of anything capture the true spirit of whatever anime/cartoon/show, no? "Pokemon" in the latest generations look like something from mech genre animes and designs have been recycled to a degenerative point. That's what happens when you start beating the horse for money - which is why people who played with first or second generation pokemon have little affection for new generations because they don't feel the same anymore.
The thing is that there have been some horrible pokemon designs and some good ones for every generation. Are you really telling me that pokemon like grimer ( a pile of grime) or seel ( a seal) is better than the new pokemon? And speaking of something out of a mecha anime Have you look at things like steelix from gen 2 or magneton from gen1? And a snake pokemon names ekans? Every generation has its ups and downs and over used themes. I played the originals on release and continue to like the new ones. Its nostalgia that causes these opinions not actual factual basis. Gen1 is probably the worst in regards to generic designs, but we played it as little kids for the most part, so its harder for us to take a hard look at it. Milking a formula that works is what happens in every genre from every developer, and game freak is better than a lot of the repeat offenders out there. And when ever the developers try something new that is nothing like the older games, the same people who bash them for "recycling " pokemon designs jump on them because it doesn't feel like the old games. You don't have to play the new ones, but stop holding gen 1 on a pedestal while ignoring its own blatant flaws.
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
I will respectfully disagree with you, Jaaaaasper. What you see as unimaginative design I see as simplicity, and simplicity is the basis of beauty in my eyes. It's because there is little to no imagination in Seel or Raticate, for example, that it doesn't look childish. This is in contrast to some of the designs of Pokemon in future generations that have too much creativity.
I think another problem is that there are only so many ways you can do a generic bird/rat/mouse/dog pokemon, and Gamefreak's decision to make new generics every generation has resulted in an overflow of such generic early game "filler" pokemon, with nothing to distinguish them except nostalgia.
So Raticate is remembered (and hated, because fuck trying to run away and seeing "Can't escape!") but nobody gives a shit about Furret/Linoone/Bibarrel without Moody/Watchog. The latter probably have more merit from a pure design point of view, but we're bored of it already.
I have not played the pokemon games since red/blue. What is different about the new generation of pokemon games? (in terms of pokemon and combat/etc)
ie: where can I find the giant patch note?
Biggest changes:
Special was split into Special Attack and Special Defense Dark and Steel types added Pokemon can now hold items Pokemon have "abilities" Pokemon now have Natures (+10% to one stat, -10% to another). Instead of all of one type using a stat (ie, water always using special attack), now each move uses physical or special attack based on the move.
I have only played the red/blue, heck I beat my friend's Charmeleon with an Ivysaur, mind you I was lvl 32 and his was lvl 18. My regret in that game in not completing the 151 pokemon list, I had 150, because @ that time when I was young, catching Tauros was such a headache, that I stopped playing.
On August 19 2013 02:38 eericson000 wrote: I have only played the red/blue, heck I beat my friend's Charmeleon with an Ivysaur, mind you I was lvl 32 and his was lvl 18. My regret in that game in not completing the 151 pokemon list, I had 150, because @ that time when I was young, catching Tauros was such a headache, that I stopped playing.
-cheers-
Tauros, Pinsir and Scyther were the bane of many Pokemon Masters haha.
Pretty hyped for this anime. Might be the first "modern" anime I watch.
On August 19 2013 02:38 eericson000 wrote: I have only played the red/blue, heck I beat my friend's Charmeleon with an Ivysaur, mind you I was lvl 32 and his was lvl 18. My regret in that game in not completing the 151 pokemon list, I had 150, because @ that time when I was young, catching Tauros was such a headache, that I stopped playing.
-cheers-
Tauros, Pinsir and Scyther were the bane of many Pokemon Masters haha.
Pretty hyped for this anime. Might be the first "modern" anime I watch.
Tauros was the only one i could catch really easily. I just went to this one spot saw a tauros and like 5/10 times i would catch one. Now if your talkin about Khangaskhan or Chansey... I don't even know what to say...
On August 18 2013 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bulbasaur was my favorite starter, really. Actually in the first three generations, my favorite starters were all grass types.
Chikorita is by far my favorite starter ever, Beefcakes!
If it actually ever learned sleep powder (seriously, what the fuck), it would be the best. THE BEST
btw just got reminded by my copy of it that there is a secret PC in Celadon City. A building that is shaped like a Pokemon Center... actually has a hidden PC too. Freaky.
Sorry but a blue man sized turtle with two cannons on his shell...not possible to not pick that.
And yeah, pokemon was horribly disappointing after the first 150 pokemangz. So badly designed, zero effort. It literally looked like they put eyes on rudimentary shapes after a while.
On August 18 2013 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bulbasaur was my favorite starter, really. Actually in the first three generations, my favorite starters were all grass types.
On August 18 2013 11:07 VayneAuthority wrote: I dont know why you would want charizard, there aren't any good fire pokemon in red/blue version. It's one of, if not the weakest, types in first gen
"I dont know why you would want charizard", cause it was a dragon, a fire dragon and we were like 8 lol
Hey now, chikorita was a good grass type! It's evolved form was pretty strong as well!
On August 18 2013 13:28 JSH wrote: While I really really like gen 1, it is a broken game with silly mechanics
1 xacc + higher speed makes ohko moves always hit (pinnacle mechanic in speedrunning however) you can't attack when you wakeup from sleep same with wrap (super frustrating in speedruns) special attack and special defense rolled into 1 makes special moves way too strong Hyper Beam kill means no recharge! (I always found this one fun though hahaha~) Random stat reduction/boost gives other effects (Kinesis reduces their accuracy by one stage AND increases their speed by one stage for no apparent reason) not to mention Stupid AI among others make this game really exploitable
I've been playing the other pokemon games and enjoying them as well I think the newer ds games look very nice Although pokemon became more about friendship instead about battling your pokemon to the death to become greatest trainer of them all (hue)
I do have to give it the nostalgia factor that I like it so much, and is in fact why I started to speed run yellow :3
Huge changes came along with Gen3 and onwards that I at first didn't like cause it was different (personality types for one) but I realize it was a nice addition when I accepted it. Inclusion of weather and reinstated night/day (gen2 and gen4+) is great touch as well
And the split between physical and special damage on all moves was a huge change that made many pokemon much better
Also how retardly good psychic pokemon were. Me and my friends decided to run through blue again for the nostalgia. My 6/7 year old self didn't even know what special did but running through it again I could see how unbalanced the game was. I went through most of the game 1 shotting literally everything with a Kadabra, except for other good psychic pokemon, until I got bored and decided to use some different pokemon.
ya, psychic pokemon were crazy powerful even in the second generation.
I choose Charmander for my pokemon. Charizard ended up as more of a Fly/Cut/Strength slave though. My Vaporeon, Gengar/Alakazam/Dugtrio core ended up carrying me through the first game lol.
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
Whether or not "generic" rats are good pokemon design is based entirely on personal opinions. That said, first generations of anything capture the true spirit of whatever anime/cartoon/show, no? "Pokemon" in the latest generations look like something from mech genre animes and designs have been recycled to a degenerative point. That's what happens when you start beating the horse for money - which is why people who played with first or second generation pokemon have little affection for new generations because they don't feel the same anymore.
The thing is that there have been some horrible pokemon designs and some good ones for every generation. Are you really telling me that pokemon like grimer ( a pile of grime) or seel ( a seal) is better than the new pokemon? And speaking of something out of a mecha anime Have you look at things like steelix from gen 2 or magneton from gen1? And a snake pokemon names ekans? Every generation has its ups and downs and over used themes. I played the originals on release and continue to like the new ones. Its nostalgia that causes these opinions not actual factual basis. Gen1 is probably the worst in regards to generic designs, but we played it as little kids for the most part, so its harder for us to take a hard look at it. Milking a formula that works is what happens in every genre from every developer, and game freak is better than a lot of the repeat offenders out there. And when ever the developers try something new that is nothing like the older games, the same people who bash them for "recycling " pokemon designs jump on them because it doesn't feel like the old games. You don't have to play the new ones, but stop holding gen 1 on a pedestal while ignoring its own blatant flaws.
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves.
I will respectfully disagree with you, Jaaaaasper. What you see as unimaginative design I see as simplicity, and simplicity is the basis of beauty in my eyes. It's because there is little to no imagination in Seel or Raticate, for example, that it doesn't look childish. This is in contrast to some of the designs of Pokemon in future generations that have too much creativity.
I think another problem is that there are only so many ways you can do a generic bird/rat/mouse/dog pokemon, and Gamefreak's decision to make new generics every generation has resulted in an overflow of such generic early game "filler" pokemon, with nothing to distinguish them except nostalgia.
So Raticate is remembered (and hated, because fuck trying to run away and seeing "Can't escape!") but nobody gives a shit about Furret/Linoone/Bibarrel without Moody/Watchog. The latter probably have more merit from a pure design point of view, but we're bored of it already.
I have not played the pokemon games since red/blue. What is different about the new generation of pokemon games? (in terms of pokemon and combat/etc)
ie: where can I find the giant patch note?
2nd gen: Gold/Silver/Crystal, the stallfest gen. 100 new pokes. Special is split into Special Attack and Special Defence, buffing some and nerfing others. A lot of viable pokemon are added but crit rates are reduced to a flat 6.25% resulting in battles that go on for 600+ turns.
3rd gen: Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald (later Fire Red and Leaf Green, remakes of red and green), the EV gen. 135 new pokes. Pokemon can no longer max out all their stats, and can only max out 2 stats. Pokemon also get passive abilities with effects such as boosting their speed every turn, making water attacks heal you, etc.
4rd gen: Diamond/Pearl/Platinum (later Heart Gold and Soul Silver, again remakes), the physical/special split. 100 new pokes. Every move is made physical (running off attack) or special (running off special attack) regardless of its type e.g. Hyper Beam now goes off special attack. Offensive power starts to run rampant, but stall is still viable.
5th gen: Black and White (later Black 2 and White 2), the hyperoffence gen. 160 odd new pokes, many of them far more powerful than anything seen before. Pokemon get new passive abilities including some really powerful ones (e.g. randomly boosting their own stats, setting weather to boost their teammates just for switching in).
The World of Red/Green Revived! The anime, Pokemon: The Origin, to air as a special program on Wednesday, October 2nd!
For those who have played Pokemon Red/Green, the world of Red/Green will be resurrected with vivid animation. It will be aired as a special program titled Pokemon: The Origin.
To commemorate the release of the new Pokemon, "Pokemon X/Y," it has been determined that an originally animated series, Pokemon: The Origin, will be aired, which will depict for the very first time the world of the title that started it all, Pokemon: Red/Green!
Ahead of the release of Pokemon: X/Y, which is scheduled for Saturday, October 12, T.V. Tokyo Conglomerate will air the special on Wednesday, October 2, starting from 7:00 P.M. JST.
About the anime:
Pokemon: The Origin will bring to you the intense pokemon battles, the lively expressions of both the pokemon and other featured characters, and the unaltered charm of the pokemon through vivid animation.
The content of the anime will not only be enjoyed by those currently playing the games, but also by adults who were engrossed in the games in the past!
Story:
Kanto, the stage of the adventure.
The journey will begin with Young Red receiving his very first partner and pokemon, Charmander, from the influential pokemon researcher, Professor Oak.
Red, having been entrusted with the task of completing the Pokemon Encyclopedia by Professor Oak, experiences various encounters and battles with his partner, Charmander.
The battle with his rival, Green, and his challenge to Gym Leader Brock... The confrontation between him and the evil Team Rocket, who have decided to take over the Pokemon Tower... Also, the grand battle with Team Rocket's boss, Giovanni, and an encounter with an unknown pokemon that lies ahead...
This reminiscent adventure of Pokemon: Red/Green is now being brilliantly resurrected!
Skipping the characters... but if you must know, from top left to bottom right, it's: Red, Green, Professor Oak, Brock, Mom.
And the last bit is just a description about the Red/Green games.
Seems like they're covering a lot. I wonder how long the special will be.
I say the introducing of EV has seriously harmed my pokemon enjoyment EV training & nature picking during normal playthrough makes the game much challenging (more like tedious) but also less enjoyable. the more you know, the less you feel right
You ain't even worth talking to if you didn't pick Squirtle as your starter. Fuck all that "Charmander will eventually become the strongest" noise. Squirtle is way cooler. Einstein picked Squirtle as his starter, Darwin picked Squirtle as his starter, Flash picked Squirtle as his starter. You do the math.
On August 19 2013 05:43 dmfg wrote: 2nd gen: Gold/Silver/Crystal, the stallfest gen. 100 new pokes. Special is split into Special Attack and Special Defence, buffing some and nerfing others. A lot of viable pokemon are added but crit rates are reduced to a flat 6.25% resulting in battles that go on for 600+ turns.
Spikes at least required multiple turns for full potential, and didn't screw over specific type combos, many of whom are still very viable pokemon if they didn't have to worry about losing 50% of their life switching in.
I don't mind permaweather outside of the fact that I have to keep getting annoying messages of "it is raining" every turn.
Yeah I hate weather overall. The idea of having weather as pokemon moves was stupid since no one actually uses them outside of the wild/CPU pokemon. Having weather only be mentioned in some graphics that continue without increasing the time spent waiting for your next move would've been much better than what they started in gen 3 with 'it is raining' "I KNOW IT IS RAINING >.< "it stopped raining" thanks Mr.Obvious Narrator. "it started raining" .......
I loved the day/night of my old GBColor Silver. That was probably my favorite game mechanic, and when they didn't continue it in gen3 I cried.
hot damn. last place i thought id see something this cool related to pokemon was TL. every new handheld ive bought from nintendo was because of pokemon... 3DS HERE I COME!
On August 21 2013 04:41 3FFA wrote: I loved the day/night of my old GBColor Silver. That was probably my favorite game mechanic, and when they didn't continue it in gen3 I cried.
that was the best, I wish that and the secret base (ruby/sapphire) were still around as those were my two favorite game mechanics. while largely pointless I enjoyed designing different bases in different areas of the pokemon world in ruby, it would be nice if there was a feature where you did that and all your pokemon just ran around inside it. still pointless but it would be awesome
On August 21 2013 04:41 3FFA wrote: I loved the day/night of my old GBColor Silver. That was probably my favorite game mechanic, and when they didn't continue it in gen3 I cried.
that was the best, I wish that and the secret base (ruby/sapphire) were still around as those were my two favorite game mechanics. while largely pointless I enjoyed designing different bases in different areas of the pokemon world in ruby, it would be nice if there was a feature where you did that and all your pokemon just ran around inside it. still pointless but it would be awesome
When I first read about Gen3's room decorating thing and Emerald's facing gym leaders twice thing I was incredibly hoping that I could make my own gym in the game now. I was sorely disappointed.
On August 21 2013 05:36 Avos5 wrote: hot damn. last place i thought id see something this cool related to pokemon was TL.
The official Japanese Pokémon website as well as their official Twitter account have announced the voice actors for the upcoming OVA special Pocket Monsters THE ORIGIN (ポケットモンスター THE ORIGIN). Junko Takeuchi (竹内順子) who is best know for her voice acting role as Naruto Uzumaki will voice Red.
The official Japanese Pokémon website as well as their official Twitter account have announced the voice actors for the upcoming OVA special Pocket Monsters THE ORIGIN (ポケットモンスター THE ORIGIN). Junko Takeuchi (竹内順子) who is best know for her voice acting role as Naruto Uzumaki will voice Red.
On September 11 2013 00:53 Seiniyta wrote: Some small new stuff:
The official Japanese Pokémon website as well as their official Twitter account have announced the voice actors for the upcoming OVA special Pocket Monsters THE ORIGIN (ポケットモンスター THE ORIGIN). Junko Takeuchi (竹内順子) who is best know for her voice acting role as Naruto Uzumaki will voice Red.
On September 11 2013 00:53 Seiniyta wrote: Some small new stuff:
The official Japanese Pokémon website as well as their official Twitter account have announced the voice actors for the upcoming OVA special Pocket Monsters THE ORIGIN (ポケットモンスター THE ORIGIN). Junko Takeuchi (竹内順子) who is best know for her voice acting role as Naruto Uzumaki will voice Red.
On August 21 2013 04:41 3FFA wrote: I loved the day/night of my old GBColor Silver. That was probably my favorite game mechanic, and when they didn't continue it in gen3 I cried.
that was the best, I wish that and the secret base (ruby/sapphire) were still around as those were my two favorite game mechanics. while largely pointless I enjoyed designing different bases in different areas of the pokemon world in ruby, it would be nice if there was a feature where you did that and all your pokemon just ran around inside it. still pointless but it would be awesome
It simulated real life's day/night cycle and this was the reason I was ecstatic about the first Animal Crossing. I'd like pokemon to incorporate a few Animal Crossing ideas to increase its replay value.
On September 11 2013 00:53 Seiniyta wrote: Some small new stuff:
The official Japanese Pokémon website as well as their official Twitter account have announced the voice actors for the upcoming OVA special Pocket Monsters THE ORIGIN (ポケットモンスター THE ORIGIN). Junko Takeuchi (竹内順子) who is best know for her voice acting role as Naruto Uzumaki will voice Red.
On August 21 2013 04:41 3FFA wrote: I loved the day/night of my old GBColor Silver. That was probably my favorite game mechanic, and when they didn't continue it in gen3 I cried.
that was the best, I wish that and the secret base (ruby/sapphire) were still around as those were my two favorite game mechanics. while largely pointless I enjoyed designing different bases in different areas of the pokemon world in ruby, it would be nice if there was a feature where you did that and all your pokemon just ran around inside it. still pointless but it would be awesome
When I first read about Gen3's room decorating thing and Emerald's facing gym leaders twice thing I was incredibly hoping that I could make my own gym in the game now. I was sorely disappointed.
Water Pokemon ftw, I always pick the water starter ever since blastoise carried my team through pokemon red.
Other than that I've always had a soft spot for the underdogs, bug and poison pokemon in particular. The games are easy enough as it is, and making your team full of dragon types and legendaries just makes it boring.
I clicked hoping for another Blue/Red remake (for like PS4/XB1) with epic battle animations. Original 151 is easily the best. Also this will suck, almost all pokemon anime does.
Squirtle is easily the best cause he's the fastest.
On September 21 2013 01:36 iTzSnypah wrote: I clicked hoping for another Blue/Red remake (for like PS4/XB1) with epic battle animations. Original 151 is easily the best. Also this will suck, almost all pokemon anime does.
Squirtle is easily the best cause he's the fastest.
Hey look, another person saying stuff like Muk is better than all other generations' pokemon. Probably someone who has never played a pokemon game outside of red/blue. (Unless you're talking about the original series being easily the best. If so, I apologize for this).
I chose Squirtle because I liked the idea of being able to kill your "counter" (Venusaur) by learning ice moves like Blizzard. In your face, Gary!
No, I didn't really train any of my other pokemon. It was the Blastoise show all the way through the Elite 4 ftw. The other 5 were cannon fodder while I used revives on Blastoise as necessary lol. Good old 3rd grade logic..
On October 03 2013 02:11 Leeto wrote: I chose Squirtle because I liked the idea of being able to kill your "counter" (Venusaur) by learning ice moves like Blizzard. In your face, Gary!
No, I didn't really train any of my other pokemon. It was the Blastoise show all the way through the Elite 4 ftw. The other 5 were cannon fodder while I used revives on Blastoise as necessary lol. Good old 3rd grade logic..
I spent a good part of a year watching over my friend's shoulder as he played since my family couldn't afford a gameboy. When I finally got my own I had a good idea of what I was going to do.
On October 03 2013 02:11 Leeto wrote: I chose Squirtle because I liked the idea of being able to kill your "counter" (Venusaur) by learning ice moves like Blizzard. In your face, Gary!
No, I didn't really train any of my other pokemon. It was the Blastoise show all the way through the Elite 4 ftw. The other 5 were cannon fodder while I used revives on Blastoise as necessary lol. Good old 3rd grade logic..
Did you research the game before you played it?
I think when I was in like grade 2, I bought a pokemon handbook from some school book order thing. I think I've since thrown it out, but it had all the pokemon moves and when they learned them and so forth.
Also it had cool pictures.
At that point in time, I would save, try and beat a boss, and if I couldn't, I'd go back, level up, and then try again. I'd also send shit like pidgeotto against a rock pokemon because he looked cool to my 7 year old brain.
having a balanced team didn't occur to me at that time. I would brute force it with a couple of my favorite pokemon until it worked.
Like against brock I literally would just tackle and potion spam a rock pokemon to death.
On October 03 2013 00:09 Draconicfire wrote: Wait so, from what I'm reading this was split into four parts right?
Did all four air tonight in Japan? Or is it gonna be released separately?
It's pretty much an OVA, with four segments broadcast back to back.
I skimmed through it (my Japanese is not good enough to watch it just raw) and, holy shit, THE NOSTALGIC FEELS.
If they did a special for each generation, holy shit, I will jizz in my pants so much. Imagine Gold facing against Red at Mt. Silver for the final scene... wow...
Just watched the RAW of this, was pretty good overall but kind of sad that they skipped around some of the best parts of the game, most gym battles, Mt.Moon, SS.Anne, etc. But its understandable, considering it would have to be a whole anime season to get everything from the game on air.
- No rival battle once they picked their Pokemon (and that annoying jingle whenever the rival walks in) - That weird Brock spying thing when Red and Green battled - Brock fangirls -> were they supposed to represent the trainers you beat before you could challenge him? - No annoying old man to teach you how to catch Pokemon
I know time was an issue, but I felt the first and last point were necessary to flow with what the games did.
- No rival battle once they picked their Pokemon (and that annoying jingle whenever the rival walks in) - That weird Brock spying thing when Red and Green battled - Brock fangirls -> were they supposed to represent the trainers you beat before you could challenge him? - No annoying old man to teach you how to catch Pokemon
I know time was an issue, but I felt the first and last point were necessary to flow with what the games did.
I think the studio took some liberty with the material to make it flow better. If the anime followed the games directly we would have had 2 rival fights rather fast (one at the start, and one when you try to go to victory road once you arrive in viridian).
In the games trainers did adore Brock around pewter/road to pewter if I recall so I guess that comes from there. I'm not sure the annoying old man would have fit there. I'm personally happy they skipped him.
Just me or was it quite shocking the sounds charmander was making when squirtle used bite. Geez o_o He didn't even try use his other pokemon though
Other than that I liked it, they just got straight into no babying around about how things work. Probably safe to assume everyone knows how pokemon work.
edit: The 'saving' at the end was a nice touch lol
Wow, great first episode, such a shame they don't have enough time to go through everything but already this one episode is miles better than the original 5 it took to get to this point
On October 03 2013 23:40 wozzot wrote: An anime that's basically a condensed playthrough of Pokemon R/B and there's no Missingno. in any of the episodes, how disappointing
It's basically here to tease us about how great the original anime could have been. Question about Pokemon Tower: So all pokemon that die anywhere in the world go to pokemon tower?
I liked the manga version more where Koga's gastly controls the corpses of dead pokemon (zombie pokemon) to fight for him. This is good also, but not zombie good.
This was so good (first ep of origin) Pokemon is such a good memory, a big part of my childhood was playing red/yellow/gold/silver, and still today im playing pokemon. :3 I love Pokemon!
Episode 2 is subbed. This one is pretty sad but really good.
Best part: he bought the Magikarp.
Of course he did. Silly Red so gullible..
Also I just realized: is Ash's rival named Gary because Green (gah reeenuh) sounds like that in Japanese? Never noticed that. Mind blown.
The English dubbed names of Ash and Gary are based off the Japanese names given to the characters (Satoshi/Ash & Shigeru/Gary), who in turn, are named after Satoshi Tajiri (the creator of Pokemon) & Shigeru Miyamoto (the man, the legend behind Nintendo).
I really appreciate this anime, still waiting on subs for Episodes 3 & 4. Don't like how they gleaned over Misty/Surge gym battles & stuff like meeting Bill or the Nugget bridge in favor of Lavender Town but they have the creative license. This is easily better than the crap anime. I don't know if they're attached to having Pikachu as a mascot or something, but I feel they should have stopped using Ash after Johto, and just use a new main character with Ash in some guest episodes if they want a reset. It gets ridiculous when you have Pikachu take down Pokemon like Dragonite, Regice and Latios but then lose to a Eevee or Snivy.
If the anime wasn't concerned with showing off the new region Pokemon, Ash would have an easier time with gyms if he switched in his old Pokemon, kinda why I liked Battle Frontier saga out of all the recent sagas.
When squirtle was chomping down on charmander and he was just screaming his fucking lungs out I was kinda surprised. It looked pretty painful too man. More "realistic" then the original anime it seems.
On October 04 2013 04:59 Paperplane wrote: When squirtle was chomping down on charmander and he was just screaming his fucking lungs out I was kinda surprised. It looked pretty painful too man. More "realistic" then the original anime it seems.
Wow I never considered the gym as a training tool for the trainers. When Ash mentioned he didn't have any badges Brock only used 2 out of his 6 pokemon. I guess he would use more if the trainers he battled had more badges.
After watching the first 2 episodes I really wish it was a full show and not just a special, because it's so much better than the actual anime. Here is hoping they notice how popular it is and fill in the gaps later with a whole season.
Just watched episode 3 & 4. Loved their take on the Pokemon game tho it's a bit sad this will probably never turn into a full anime. Even tho they have so much to base it of considering the Manga has been going on for years now.
WOW GREEN GOT ROBBED That's such a shitty damage range on the hydro pump. Unless of course the blastoise had a bad nature or no EVs in SpA or charizard had a SpDef nature/SpDef EVs.
And the fire blast had to get a max damage range with a crit to kill with the fire spin. SUCH BULLSHIT RUINED MY SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF
WOW GREEN GOT ROBBED That's such a shitty damage range on the hydro pump. Unless of course the blastoise had a bad nature or no EVs in SpA or charizard had a SpDef nature/SpDef EVs.
And the fire blast had to get a max damage range with a crit to kill with the fire spin. SUCH BULLSHIT RUINED MY SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF
WOW GREEN GOT ROBBED That's such a shitty damage range on the hydro pump. Unless of course the blastoise had a bad nature or no EVs in SpA or charizard had a SpDef nature/SpDef EVs.
And the fire blast had to get a max damage range with a crit to kill with the fire spin. SUCH BULLSHIT RUINED MY SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF
When Oak was telling how the stones interacted with Charizard I was like... Oh no mega evolution... I was hoping it would stick to just original but they fit it in very very well I wasn't bothered by it huhu
And I loved how they did the Giovanni Arc So good What a boss
Mewtwo, that jerk. haha. I remember him breaking like all my pokeballs. It was so hard to not knock his ass the F out. and then I'd throw a pokeball and he'd break out, then recover lots of his health haha.
On October 05 2013 13:45 JSH wrote: I like the Blaziken mega evolution
Also why does Charizard have 2? So X would get one version and Y would get the other?
Yeah, X gets the cool black one, Y gets the cool streamlined one.
I wonder if the other Pokemon get X and Y versions too ... it does seem particularly unfair for Charizard to get two, while Blastoise and Venosaur just get one. Even though Charizard is cooler to begin with anyways.
On October 05 2013 13:45 JSH wrote: I like the Blaziken mega evolution
Also why does Charizard have 2? So X would get one version and Y would get the other?
I think the Blaziken one would be my favorite if it didnt have those random white chunks on it's head, just looks so weird. Blaziken is one of my favorite pokemon too.
Pretty major spoilers of all of the episodes in the spoiler, so you've been warned. Discussing the plot of the show so I wouldn't recommend opening it unless you have already watched all of it. + Show Spoiler +
It really annoyed me a lot how much they skipped. And it felt really random the events that they showed. it was like, 1st gym, side quest, 8th gym, rival, mewtwo? I dunno. I thought the part with the backstory with Marowak was really cool, but that was pretty much the only part of the story where we got any substantial character development outside of the ending. I was hoping for an actual season of Red/Blue so I guess I was bound to be dissapointed anyway after I saw there was only 4 EPs,
i would love to vote but it was so long ago i cannot remember. i had the blue version thats all i remember. the game was epic for its time. after school we would all hang out in this hallway that was a dead end and play.
Also I loved how the battles were portrayed in origin
It was so accurate to the game, they basically take turns trading with moves and lasts only a few turns like actual pokemon battles Unlike a certain pokemon show where half of the battle consists of shouting "DODGE"
On October 05 2013 14:44 JSH wrote: Yeah it is a new thing for X and Y
Also I loved how the battles were portrayed in origin
It was so accurate to the game, they basically take turns trading with moves and lasts only a few turns like actual pokemon battles Unlike a certain pokemon show where half of the battle consists of shouting "DODGE"
ok thanks. I think they need to work on some of those new pokemon names though lol ><
On October 05 2013 13:45 JSH wrote: I like the Blaziken mega evolution
Also why does Charizard have 2? So X would get one version and Y would get the other?
I think the Blaziken one would be my favorite if it didnt have those random white chunks on it's head, just looks so weird. Blaziken is one of my favorite pokemon too.
Pretty major spoilers of all of the episodes in the spoiler, so you've been warned. Discussing the plot of the show so I wouldn't recommend opening it unless you have already watched all of it. + Show Spoiler +
It really annoyed me a lot how much they skipped. And it felt really random the events that they showed. it was like, 1st gym, side quest, 8th gym, rival, mewtwo? I dunno. I thought the part with the backstory with Marowak was really cool, but that was pretty much the only part of the story where we got any substantial character development outside of the ending. I was hoping for an actual season of Red/Blue so I guess I was bound to be dissapointed anyway after I saw there was only 4 EPs,
They focused more on the Team Rocket/Giovanni, and I loved how they finished the Giovanni fight Disbanding Team Rocket for change of heart was much better than the actual in game story lol
Given the 4 episode restriction, I'm okay with all the time skips And I was surprised we got 4 episodes for an OVA Usually you only get like 2 max And all those in game references were so good
On October 05 2013 13:45 JSH wrote: I like the Blaziken mega evolution
Also why does Charizard have 2? So X would get one version and Y would get the other?
I think the Blaziken one would be my favorite if it didnt have those random white chunks on it's head, just looks so weird. Blaziken is one of my favorite pokemon too.
Pretty major spoilers of all of the episodes in the spoiler, so you've been warned. Discussing the plot of the show so I wouldn't recommend opening it unless you have already watched all of it. + Show Spoiler +
It really annoyed me a lot how much they skipped. And it felt really random the events that they showed. it was like, 1st gym, side quest, 8th gym, rival, mewtwo? I dunno. I thought the part with the backstory with Marowak was really cool, but that was pretty much the only part of the story where we got any substantial character development outside of the ending. I was hoping for an actual season of Red/Blue so I guess I was bound to be dissapointed anyway after I saw there was only 4 EPs,
They focused more on the Team Rocket/Giovanni, and I loved how they finished the Giovanni fight Disbanding Team Rocket for change of heart was much better than the actual in game story lol
Given the 4 episode restriction, I'm okay with all the time skips And I was surprised we got 4 episodes for an OVA Usually you only get like 2 max And all those in game references were so good
It is pretty funny that the voice actor for Red is the same as Naruto; the character of red had a lot in common with Naruto. Also Mega Charizard using Rasengan (mega punch) was crazy.
Is the mega evolution a permanent thing in the games? or is it like the anime how it was kinda like an item thing. (one time use, gotta buy more of it later)? nvm
In order to undergo a Mega Evolution, the Pokémon must be holding the applicable Mega Stone. The player must use their Mega Ring, which contains a Key Stone, to resonate with the Mega Stone held by their Pokémon to trigger Mega Evolution. Mega Evolution can only occur in battle and disappears after the battle is over.
wow Blastoise and Venusaur's megas look so underwhelming compared to the black charizard, like for Venusaur it now has some green acne on his face and vines on his tree (droopy vines...he already had vines are they trying to tell us something?) the Blastoise omg... :/ seriously (i know this is a pokemon fusion but omg that looks bad ass + Show Spoiler +
On October 05 2013 23:43 Shock710 wrote: Is the mega evolution a permanent thing in the games? or is it like the anime how it was kinda like an item thing. (one time use, gotta buy more of it later)?
Whether its a consumable item or permanent is not entirely clear yet. What we do know is that pokemon mega-evolve the turn following the switch in, so megacharizard x's fire/dragon typing wouldn't help if you switch into stealth rocks or stone edge.
On October 06 2013 13:55 Pduff wrote: This is some great videogame hype, for the upcoming Pokemon X and Y. I thought the fight scenes were some legit animation, and would love to see more.
unfortunately, you're going to have to wait for a long time since I don't believe they are making anymore after origins :/
This is so great and it brought back so many memories! The shit a trainer can accomplish if he wakes up on time and get a starter instead of a shitty pikachu. Just imagined what would have happened if Ash didnt run into Misty! He could have had all the legendaries and a bajillion badges right now! Also, because he was not constantly harassed all show by team Rocket, Red actually got his pokemon to decent level instead of wasting time fighting the same ekans/koffing over and over. Red's charizard is so much better than Ash's... THIS IS HOW YOU USE YOUR STARTER! Also the feels during the Cubone part TT. The health bar for gym battle was totally sick haha! Jolteon was about to pull something out of its ass then it just fainted. Also i noticed something, during the E4 fight Ash used a gengar, but when he got to gary gengar wasnt one of his pokemon... HE LOST AT LEAST ONCE BEFORE GETTING TO GARY.
It was fine as an anime but starting with the third episode the anime that was supposed to more closely follow the video game ended up as bad if not worse than anime with Ash with it's illogical pokemon battles. In the original anime Ash would come up with clever ways to win type disadvantages even if there is no way to dodge certain moves in the video game and the anime made up entirely new moves.
However in Origins a lot of the battles can only be explained with huge level disadvantages. Giovanni's Ryhorn for example was able to one shot Victreebell ok, but then it was also able to one shot a Jolteon with an electric move? Jolteon does not have bad special defensive it was a move Jolteon resisted and Ryhorn has terrible special attack. Ryhorn would need to be some absurd level in order to have effective electric moves. Then in order to defeat it Red uses a Hitomonlee that manages to fight this level 80+ Ryhorn monster they both knock each other out which I guess is possible with recoil moves. Then Charizard uses wins 1v1 vs Rhydon using normal moves and seismic toss, the seismic toss managed to take down Rhydon at 70% health too which is even worse than when Ash's Charizard does it at least there it was a finisher instead of a rubber band move. For a show that talks so much about type advantages it seems to make them completely with him even finishing Blastoise with a Charizard's fire blast after surviving a hydro pump.
I suppose what everyone likes about this series is that Red actually succeeds and becomes Pokemon Champ compared to Ash who is an idiot and loses and then gets nerfed in various ways to ensure he never wins anything major. Though the problem with a trainer that wins and becomes champ is that they would be too good of a trainer and would not be a suitable protagonist for another series. Having a different protagonist for each series could work, but I suppose they prefer to have someone that can be identified every series.
On October 07 2013 04:37 BlackMagister wrote: It was fine as an anime but starting with the third episode the anime that was supposed to more closely follow the video game ended up as bad if not worse than anime with Ash with it's illogical pokemon battles. In the original anime Ash would come up with clever ways to win type disadvantages even if there is no way to dodge certain moves in the video game and the anime made up entirely new moves.
However in Origins a lot of the battles can only be explained with huge level disadvantages. Giovanni's Ryhorn for example was able to one shot Victreebell ok, but then it was also able to one shot a Jolteon with an electric move? Jolteon does not have bad special defensive it was a move Jolteon resisted and Ryhorn has terrible special attack. Ryhorn would need to be some absurd level in order to have effective electric moves. Then in order to defeat it Red uses a Hitomonlee that manages to fight this level 80+ Ryhorn monster they both knock each other out which I guess is possible with recoil moves. Then Charizard uses wins 1v1 vs Rhydon using normal moves and seismic toss, the seismic toss managed to take down Rhydon at 70% health too which is even worse than when Ash's Charizard does it at least there it was a finisher instead of a rubber band move. For a show that talks so much about type advantages it seems to make them completely with him even finishing Blastoise with a Charizard's fire blast after surviving a hydro pump.
I suppose what everyone likes about this series is that Red actually succeeds and becomes Pokemon Champ compared to Ash who is an idiot and loses and then gets nerfed in various ways to ensure he never wins anything major. Though the problem with a trainer that wins and becomes champ is that they would be too good of a trainer and would not be a suitable protagonist for another series. Having a different protagonist for each series could work, but I suppose they prefer to have someone that can be identified every series.
Yea also I always thought that Jolteon usually comes with Volt Absorb so it should have been immune! Unless they were going super old school and were basing it off of Red and Green version. But then again, it showed Charizard mega evolving which is from X and Y so yea...
ha, watched this today (with some mediocrely-done fansubs) courtesy of infinitestory
it was certainly very amusing, though Red's insistence on using dumb moves was sort of impressive
also unfortunate was the fact that in order to compress it into 4 episodes, they had to skim through a lot of stuff... still, it was fairly enjoyable to watch, even with the absurdity at the end lololol
casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions
The best part was Blastoise facetanking Charizard's punch and giving no... yeah.
On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote: casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions
Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.
On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote: casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions
Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.
Maril is best cause it can learn strength/waterfall/rocksmash/and one more i dont rmbr
On October 07 2013 17:23 Dismay wrote: The best part was Blastoise facetanking Charizard's punch and giving no... yeah.
On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote: casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions
Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.
Maril is best cause it can learn strength/waterfall/rocksmash/and one more i dont rmbr
Bibarel can learn rock smash, strength, cut, waterfall, surf, and dive. If only he could learn flash, then he'd be perfect.
On October 07 2013 17:23 Dismay wrote: The best part was Blastoise facetanking Charizard's punch and giving no... yeah.
On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote: casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions
Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.
Maril is best cause it can learn strength/waterfall/rocksmash/and one more i dont rmbr
Bibarel can learn rock smash, strength, cut, waterfall, surf, and dive. If only he could learn flash, then he'd be perfect.
lol i remember using a crabby for thos HM but flash T_T it was so hard to get a pokemon to learn flash never had many electric types so i had to use some grass one
On October 07 2013 17:23 Dismay wrote: The best part was Blastoise facetanking Charizard's punch and giving no... yeah.
On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote: casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions
Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.
Maril is best cause it can learn strength/waterfall/rocksmash/and one more i dont rmbr
Bibarel can learn rock smash, strength, cut, waterfall, surf, and dive. If only he could learn flash, then he'd be perfect.
lol i remember using a crabby for thos HM but flash T_T it was so hard to get a pokemon to learn flash never had many electric types so i had to use some grass one
I hated Flash so much I used to just do caves without using Flash xD
On October 07 2013 17:23 Dismay wrote: The best part was Blastoise facetanking Charizard's punch and giving no... yeah.
On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote: casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions
Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.
Maril is best cause it can learn strength/waterfall/rocksmash/and one more i dont rmbr
Bibarel can learn rock smash, strength, cut, waterfall, surf, and dive. If only he could learn flash, then he'd be perfect.
lol i remember using a crabby for thos HM but flash T_T it was so hard to get a pokemon to learn flash never had many electric types so i had to use some grass one
I hated Flash so much I used to just do caves without using Flash xD
Golduck was a good candidate for Flash, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Whirlpool.
WOW GREEN GOT ROBBED That's such a shitty damage range on the hydro pump. Unless of course the blastoise had a bad nature or no EVs in SpA or charizard had a SpDef nature/SpDef EVs.
And the fire blast had to get a max damage range with a crit to kill with the fire spin. SUCH BULLSHIT RUINED MY SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF
On October 07 2013 17:23 Dismay wrote: The best part was Blastoise facetanking Charizard's punch and giving no... yeah.
On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote: casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions
Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.
Maril is best cause it can learn strength/waterfall/rocksmash/and one more i dont rmbr
Bibarel can learn rock smash, strength, cut, waterfall, surf, and dive. If only he could learn flash, then he'd be perfect.
lol i remember using a crabby for thos HM but flash T_T it was so hard to get a pokemon to learn flash never had many electric types so i had to use some grass one
I hated Flash so much I used to just do caves without using Flash xD
Golduck was a good candidate for Flash, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Whirlpool.
WOW GREEN GOT ROBBED That's such a shitty damage range on the hydro pump. Unless of course the blastoise had a bad nature or no EVs in SpA or charizard had a SpDef nature/SpDef EVs.
And the fire blast had to get a max damage range with a crit to kill with the fire spin. SUCH BULLSHIT RUINED MY SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF
WOW GREEN GOT ROBBED That's such a shitty damage range on the hydro pump. Unless of course the blastoise had a bad nature or no EVs in SpA or charizard had a SpDef nature/SpDef EVs.
And the fire blast had to get a max damage range with a crit to kill with the fire spin. SUCH BULLSHIT RUINED MY SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF
Call it Evs or Stat XP or whatever, they serve the same purpose. And EP4 has mega evolution, which I don't really remember being in gen1 either.
On the topic of HM Slaves tho, linoone was my personal favorite. Ziggy was super cute and linoone was really fun to use in UU with BellyDrum/Salac gluttony
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. Good memories, good times.
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