EPTlike crescentia said above, stay calm and enjoy the ride.
I wonder if anyone was a fan of Five Star Story here.
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
like crescentia said above, stay calm and enjoy the ride. I wonder if anyone was a fan of Five Star Story here. | ||
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BoX
United States214 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:36 Lysteria wrote: It makes sense because this is how Eren is to begin with, but that stops here I think. :p The part when he tries really hard to think about what's going on, and in the end he's like "fuck it, better scream" made me smile. It's possible to extract some informations from that chapter, not in what they say, but how they say it. Ymir isn't involved with the Reiner/Bertholdt/Annie group, meaning more titans can appear as non affiliated later too. We can't say yet if she's likely to "betray" Eren, or just act it. Speaking of betrayal, Reiner seems the weakest link of them two, mainly with the fact he doesn't accept what he had done in the past. WaveofShadow, about your theories: + Show Spoiler + I think you're sort of right with what you said, but the Reiner/Bertholdt/Annie team is kinda different since it seems they knew each other for a long time. Everybody saw Eren using his powers for a lot of chapters now, it's not a mystery anymore, but you have to consider Ymir as different. She knew for a long time her powers, and deduced probably more people could do it, but not the fact that specifically Reiner and Bertholdt had the same. No one knew for her, and she knew for no other than her. Meanwhile, we have both Reiner, Annie and Bertholdt knowing for each other. It's not possible they have luckily transformed in front of each other (and no one else) and decided to tag along, so they knew each other for a while too. Yet they seemed to learn about Ymir and Eren only recently. Either they waited for those two to reveal their possibilities, or the kids were trained in different small schools/laboratories, and the one with Eren went wrong and his memory was sort of erased. Or maybe it's an age difference factor since Eren is younger than the others.If he's really younger of course, he seems to be a teen. Basically those two betrayed Eren, anybody would be pissed in this regard. Treason is one of the gravest offense you can do for soldiers - and it is heavily punished. It's also one of the reason "spies" are usually not part of the military but are linked to another organisation (the CIA in the US, the KGB in the soviet union). The army built itself through the familly type link it create between its members - a lot of "orphan" or child coming from difficult families go into the army in real life. Eren is that type of guy, who came to the army after his mother died. He is pissed, he feel betrayed, and anybody in the army that would face such treason would be. Eren is not is not just doing his "Eren", in this he is just the only character that feel real. On the other side, those two giant and Ymir are blunt and empty. The just get out of a fight, where they betrayed Eran and what was supposed to be their familly and... they talk about "things" without never explaining a shit (what's the point ? Ho that guy is the real bad guy, who is that guy ? That guy is... beat me"), one of the two bad guy start cracking up because ho my god he forgot that he is a bad guy, and goes from one "personality" to one other after his mate says "you are a warrior, not a soldier"... Please. You cannot describe such break down process through one or two pannel, with no in between. | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On June 09 2013 15:10 riotjune wrote: Remember when people were crafting theories for Lost? I really liked the purgatory one. Then it all went downhill somehow. The fact that Marco is gone from the back cover gives me an uneasy feeling that the rest of the top ten 104th Corps (aside from Eren and Mikasa) aren't fully protected by plot armor. I hope this isn't a foreshadowing of some kind (more specifically, death to the ones who are still standing). Marco didn't have many pages or backstory devoted to him, so he'll probably be the only one though. Plus the anime is progressing way too fast and even some of the later material were already used (flashbacks and training scenes). I think we all know how the series will turn out if this continues: bad. It won't be long before we get 10 minute prologues/recaps or entire fillers (crap) or characters (already happened) unrelated to the manga (aka Naruto/Bleach). Or the anime ends and the later volumes get compressed into a few OVAs released later (Rurouni Kenshin/Air Gear?). Worst case scenario is if the director becomes impatient and decides to do a huge "F U" to the mangaka and make up his own ending like what happened with Claymore and Soul Eater (these could be considered the worst travesties ever commited in the history of manga-anime relations. And yes, this is worse than if the anime just discontinued abruptly like Slam Dunk lol) Best case is hoping that the series is put on hold/split into seasons with long breaks in between, until the manga progresses well down the line. But as history has shown us, that is rare and done more for light novels. Anime should always be faithful to the original creator/manga whenever possible (especially the main story), and nothing else should take precedence over that, whether they be profits, more plot holes/contradictions, or otherwise. A damn shame too since the series started out so well. The animation, atmosphere, and score are all really well done. It could use a little more onscreen eviscerations, amputations, decapitations and the like, but I guess they had to tone down the violence if it was broadcasted on a frequently viewed channel (aka Noir, people getting shot are "implied" rather than shown, which kind of made the action sequences have less impact). But one can always hope... I think most of us discovered this anime/manga, read every volume up until the latest chapter, and are disappointed just to have another gigantic cliffhanger slapped into our face. People are getting impatient and want answers/resolutions now, but I think we all just caught the series at a bad time. The pacing is actually pretty fast if you consider the number of volumes released. Either way, the author probably feels more pressure now to rush things since the series has become more popular. Maybe I should come back in a couple of years. I enjoy bingeing anyway, saves me the pain of the cycle of anticipation and disappointment when said anticipation goes unfulfilled with another cliffhanger, or at least decrease the frequency of it. That would require too much discipline though, bleh Please don't remind me how much Lost screwed up their story line... I was so excited for the conclusion and getting all the answers... then it turns out they never had any ending planned from the start. | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/21414/shingeki-no-kyojin_v5_ch20_by_tdx/18 http://www.batoto.net/read/_/6248/shingeki-no-kyojin_v3_ch9.5_by_gantz-waitingroom/20 And the next few pages are making me think about this. On that note, http://www.batoto.net/read/_/140730/shingeki-no-kyojin_v10_ch39_by_tdx/1 Titans attacking each other, "interesting". | ||
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mojzii
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What would you say if dead peoples (not ate by titans) are changing into titans? I just realized something, it may sound really weird but look on it guys, there are titans inside the walls, and they are alive, that's not possible for humans to put them into it, my theory is that they build in corpses and they changed into titans later on, another weird situation was titan unable to move in one of last episodes, one of characters recognized this titan as his mother lol. Also a lot of titans just came from nowhere, the ape titan can climb walls so he could kill ppls and dont eat them, and they changed into titans :D yeah, really crazy theory but it may be true  What do you think? | ||
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Simberto
Germany11686 Posts
I think the consensus in this thread so far has been that there is some connection between titans and people, and the assumption that people turn into titans under certain circumstances is a common idea too. | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
So, just me who hates Eren as a (main) character? | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Funnytoss
Taiwan1471 Posts
On June 11 2013 10:29 Juicyfruit wrote: What do you expect. Eren was always an extremely emotional character, and if you don't like that then that's fine. You already have Mikasa and Rivaille as the cool-headed ass-kickers. Eren is Eren. Exactly. An overly level-headed protagonist is hard to relate with. While Shingeki no Kyojin is oriented toward the Seinen manga crowd, it still follows many Shonen conventions (that help make it more marketable), one of those being a more hot-headed and impulsive main character with unlimited potential. | ||
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Milkis
5003 Posts
On June 11 2013 09:22 sumsaR wrote: So I just read the latest chapter, and I had another one of those "Could someone please kill Eren already?"-moments. First he's screaming and doing his "I HOPE YOU AND YOUR PARENTS ALL GO AND DIE IN THE MOST HORRIBLE WAY POSSIBLE, HELL I'LL DO IT MYSELF"-screaming. Then he thinks about a lot of questions, and asks more or less none of them. How the hell is he expecting to get clear answers if he's not going to ask? And when he does ask, he asks who the BBEG is, which he of course isn't going to get answered. So, just me who hates Eren as a (main) character? one of the reasons i like the loop theory a lot is that it explains Eren almost completely and it makes his personality so much more interesting | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On June 11 2013 11:33 Milkis wrote: one of the reasons i like the loop theory a lot is that it explains Eren almost completely and it makes his personality so much more interesting I'm not familiar with what that theory is. What I do know is that I've detested Eren's irrational personality and his "I don't know why you don't agree with me or do what you do, so I'll god damn #!%¤# bloody kill you horribly until you're dead instead"-mentality from when I started reading it. Atleast I've learnt to somewhat ignore him and his antics while reading the manga, though it has been challenging. Mikasa needs a larger role, I'd say. By the way, when was the last time Eren did something which turned out favourable for the group? He fails a lot when he acts before thinking. I can remember him in titan form blocking the hole in the wall, and that's about it. | ||
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GettingIt
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FractalsOnFire
Australia1756 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/1eua5q/shingeki_no_kyojin_attack_on_titans_theory_eren/ | ||
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julianto
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Milkis
5003 Posts
On June 11 2013 13:06 FractalsOnFire wrote: I assume Milkis is referring to this http://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/1eua5q/shingeki_no_kyojin_attack_on_titans_theory_eren/ Kinda. I think that guy goes extremely overboard, although he does make some nice connections. Somewhere out there, there's a Reset Button, and Eren's been the one pushing it. Going with the above theory, Eren wakes up in the first chapter the way he does (crying, wondering about Mikasa's hair length, etc) because he's just coming around into the new start of a Stable Time Loop, but can't hold on to those memories and is stuck going through the same loop. That's what's in the Jaeger house basement: not just the secret of Eren's turning into a Titan, but Grisha's collected knowledge of the loop: the nightmare Eren had about his father acting weird since his mom died and doing creepy science to him happened in a past loop, the same way his opening dream did. Grisha's become aware of his son's ability to carry himself through time, and has been gathering new resources for his son to save humanity every time Eren starts the loop over. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/ShingekiNoKyojin Shrug. I think time loop theories are retarded, but I really like how it makes eren that much more interesting. Need to dig into Eren a bit more to see if there's more possibilities like that though. I'm trying to find more random hints, mostly look into character reactions and expressions more and the "pauses". | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On June 11 2013 13:06 FractalsOnFire wrote: I assume Milkis is referring to this http://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/1eua5q/shingeki_no_kyojin_attack_on_titans_theory_eren/ wow quite an interesting read. It's interesting that I didn't notice that first part about Mikasa telling Eren she'll see him later. I guess since I didn't double read the chapters, I forgot XD Having said that, I think the time travel theory is quite possible due to that and in the second chapter, Mikasa says "this again" when everyone is evacuating. Either she witnessed something similar when she was back with her family or she could be in the same boat as Eren(although doubtful). I wasn't able to find other evidence though. Interesting to see that manga page with the titans fighting with each other. Wonder if it's a page to show that they are brainless(for the most part) and can infact eat each other(much higher affinity for humans though) but if that's the case, means that they would've eaten each other to extinction LOL. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On June 11 2013 11:32 Funnytoss wrote: Exactly. An overly level-headed protagonist is hard to relate with. While Shingeki no Kyojin is oriented toward the Seinen manga crowd, it still follows many Shonen conventions (that help make it more marketable), one of those being a more hot-headed and impulsive main character with unlimited potential. Pretty much that xD I quite like Eren, his personality as a main character is critical in this manga/anime because surviving is full of emotions, he is being as humanly as possible, angry when he is hating, laugh when he is happy, they are human basic emotions. Thinking rationally is actually what we do in order to survive in modern society (this 'survival' is not quite the sam as in the world of they live in though). There are many other smart and 'thinking' type of cool characters in it so i am all good. | ||
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Lysteria
France2280 Posts
On June 11 2013 13:06 FractalsOnFire wrote: I assume Milkis is referring to this http://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/1eua5q/shingeki_no_kyojin_attack_on_titans_theory_eren/ Interesting read indeed. I have to reread to know if I can see the manga that way tho, it's too blurry for some parts (especially those letters). On June 10 2013 06:52 BurningSera wrote: Jesus I have been reading the manga since it started so it's been years by now and I never complain about the 'cliffhangers'. People lack of patience nowadays or something. I'm in the same spot, it's been years since I started, and I'm in no rush for the answers. :p | ||
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malcram
2752 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Besides, we still don't know what the deal is with Dr. Jaeger. As well as that religious order, other than the fact that they seem to know about the titans in the walls. | ||
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